Installed Apps when upgrade to WM6 - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

I've searched in the Wiki. But nothing said about when update to WM6 - do I have to reinstall every Apps on my current WM5. I though WM6 is more like an upgrade, therefore all existing registries will be keep ?.
If reinstall Apps required- then is there a better way to reinstall all Apps since there are many WM6 version out there that I would like to try ....

It is exactly the same as flashing a new ROM, you lose all data. Your apps will need installing again and make sure to backup all your data.

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Total data backup

Hi all,
I have flashed my Universal several times so far, and every time I did so, I have lost some of my data or had problems with backing them up and restoring them again. What I lost were, for example, all the calendar events and tasks, because AS recognized my phone as a new one and didn't let me restore backup from the "old" one. I managed to successfully backup my SMSes, but when I restored them, each of them was restored twice, and as I never delete messages I send and receive, deleting all the duplicates one by one would take about two eternities. Oh and of course I had to reinstall all my apps and games and lost all the topscores I spent ages making.
Anyway, what I want to say is that while backing up all the data could make problems to an ordinary user, I'm sure that there are some gurus that handle this with no problems, so..could any of them possibly write a tutorial on backing up all the data from important contacts to not-so-importnant-but-still-desired game scores? I know that what I'm asking for is pretty comprehensive and would take some time, but I'm sure that many users would benefit from such article. Thanks in advance to anyone who reads this and decides to reply or help
Longlife
As a TOTALLY new user this month - I was surprised to find that I can't back up my total configuration to SD card (like I could with my old HP IPAQ)
Does this mean I have to re-install applications from a PC and re-sync from a PC each time the XDA EXEC 'hard resets' ?? (quite often at the moment)
Or has someone got a 'Back up to SD' tool that can restore after a 'Hard reset' ??
OK - I Just found SPB and Sprite - which one for a Novice ??
On a related subject , how can I transfer calendar and contacts from my IPAQ ?
eddieorz said:
As a TOTALLY new user this month - I was surprised to find that I can't back up my total configuration to SD card (like I could with my old HP IPAQ)
Does this mean I have to re-install applications from a PC and re-sync from a PC each time the XDA EXEC 'hard resets' ?? (quite often at the moment)
Or has someone got a 'Back up to SD' tool that can restore after a 'Hard reset' ??
OK - I Just found SPB and Sprite - which one for a Novice ??
On a related subject , how can I transfer calendar and contacts from my IPAQ ?
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Hi and welcome I use Sprite to backup, it has upgrade mode which allows you to restore after a ROM update, saving me countless hours installing apps and re-configuring my device. SBP only restores to the same ROM
lol remind me to use sprite backup after iv re installed and downloaded al my apps after updating to windows 6 doh
MrMiguel said:
Hi and welcome I use Sprite to backup, it has upgrade mode which allows you to restore after a ROM update, saving me countless hours installing apps and re-configuring my device. SBP only restores to the same ROM
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Sounds pretty good..I'll check it out for sure thx
Well so I downloaded some kind of trial version of Sprite backup for WM5 to try it out, but when I tried installing it, at about 30% of the installation process, it told me that "the app is not intended for this type of device" and the installation enden unsuccessfuly. Could someone please post a working CAB file for Sprite backup for WM5 trial? Thanx a lot, Longlife
Longlife said:
Well so I downloaded some kind of trial version of Sprite backup for WM5 to try it out, but when I tried installing it, at about 30% of the installation process, it told me that "the app is not intended for this type of device" and the installation enden unsuccessfuly. Could someone please post a working CAB file for Sprite backup for WM5 trial? Thanx a lot, Longlife
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Um theres no trial version.. What kind of device to you have? You most likely got the PPC version when ur device is actually an SP (smartphone) or vice versa
Please USE the forum search engine and READ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=278037 - it answers ALL your questions.
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Um theres no trial version.. What kind of device to you have? You most likely got the PPC version when ur device is actually an SP (smartphone) or vice versa
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I have no idea what I downloaded then I tried to backtrack the site I got it from so I could read the decription again, but I didn't find it. Anyway, it was saying that it's for WM5 and as I have HTC Universal running WM5, I thought that is should work. Now, I got SKTools though, which are free and seem pretty cool (I just hope I will be able to restore the backup I made, once i need it )
Can I just point out something, if you use a backup utility, you should only restore that backup to the same ROM build you backed up from.
Otherwise, nearly all of the optimisations in the registry, and included application shortcuts will be lost if you decide to flash a new ROM and restore your backup.
You will be wasting your time reflashing if this is what you're doing.
AlanJC said:
Can I just point out something, if you use a backup utility, you should only restore that backup to the same ROM build you backed up from.
Otherwise, nearly all of the optimisations in the registry, and included application shortcuts will be lost if you decide to flash a new ROM and restore your backup.
You will be wasting your time reflashing if this is what you're doing.
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Umm, sorry if this question is stupid, but what should I use to backup my data when flashing a new ROM then? The idea of getting a new ROM BUT losing all my data doesn't sound very good to me. Thanks,
Longlife

Spirite Backup

Hi,
For those of you like to update OS ROM, you can use Spirite Backup to restore all you application (program installed). Works really great. Only the update CAB files need to be reinstall suck 8525 keyboard fix, comm vibrate..etc.
work with all editions WM6.
Penske MB said:
Hi,
For those of you like to update OS ROM, you can use Spirite Backup to restore all you application (program installed). Works really great. Only the update CAB files need to be reinstall suck 8525 keyboard fix, comm vibrate..etc.
work with all editions WM6.
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While yes it is possible, It not advised even by sprite itself. They have a restore option to use after upgrading Rom option. But if you read their support forums, you will find it is not recommended.
But, If you restore you may be restoring updated windows files with an older version; which could cause instability. And at best you maybe restoring files and registry settings that should not be restored. You maybe restoring over some of the new settings and fixes. If you are going to restore to what you had before the upgrade, why upgrade.
If you reload everything via activeysnc add/remove it really does not take that long to reload your apps and you can be sure that things are going to work correctly.
I must disagree, SPB Backup work much much better on WM6 as sprite backup. there is a way how to use sprite, but it is little complicated, and you must set some settings (exclude some files,...) which is not necessary on SPB backup. I use at this time both, SPB and Sprite, each for different version of OS. Sprite for WM5, SPB for WM6. with sprite is problem when you want restore backup, in SPB no.
Penske MB said:
Hi,
For those of you like to update OS ROM, you can use Spirite Backup to restore all you application (program installed). Works really great. Only the update CAB files need to be reinstall suck 8525 keyboard fix, comm vibrate..etc.
work with all editions WM6.
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my installation of sprite 5.1 doesn't go well. The system says that it's not built for this WM version... have i to fix the cab to get it working?
thats interresting, I had no problem to install version 5.1 to any WM6 or WM5, only differences was in restore process on WM5 and WM6... maybe you can ask on Sprite support - http://www.spritesoftware.com/about-sprite-backup
SkizZO said:
my installation of sprite 5.1 doesn't go well. The system says that it's not built for this WM version... have i to fix the cab to get it working?
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I don't know if it is recommended or not...but I have been doing an Update Restore with my Sprite Software and I haven't had any problems... YMMV.
Well... I have been use it among WM6 cook ROM. NO PROBLEM AT ALL.
When I restore file, it will NOT go to previous version. Ther are option to select if you are only backup the application, config files..etc.
bkbroil said:
I don't know if it is recommended or not...but I have been doing an Update Restore with my Sprite Software and I haven't had any problems... YMMV.
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also i am using spb backup now, due to my problem, but sprite has *A LOT* of functions compared to spb. I'm not bored to exclude files manually or through a command line (ie *.tmp)...
@sinmae: what do you mean saying : only differences was in restore process on WM5 and WM6... ?
I have been using Sprite for over a year now and never had a problem with backing up or restoring with it yet. I like the functionality of Sprite over SPb. I have had too many problems with all of the SPB software that I will not touch them any longer.

Upgrading rom is necessary re-install all programs again?

As told in object, when i'm upgrading the Tytn rom (the same family rom) how can i install all the programs by backup file?
Or have i to install them from the beginning?
The hard and fast answer is imagine reinstalling windows on your pc... Would you have to reinstall all the programs? So, the answer is yes. However, you can try Settings Savior, a program created by a member of this forum that will automatically reinstall programs for you as well as resets your settings... check out the post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308100&highlight=settings+saviour to see what I'm talking about.
YES, if you will have to. Best is to back up your data. Save you some effort
napolibit said:
As told in object, when i'm upgrading the Tytn rom (the same family rom) how can i install all the programs by backup file?
Or have i to install them from the beginning?
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But, if i make a backup file of programs installed and i'm upgrading my tytn from a rom version to another rom version of the same kind (Schap's 3.57a to 3.57b, for example) when i'll upload the backup file are there difference on register key of windows system.
I'm asking for knowing if the programs can running without problems about difference of register key from old rom version to new.
no.
you must reinstall as the registry keys needed will not be there.
use settingsaviour as the first reply said and it makes it very quick though.

Full Backup in 6.1?

I've been using SPB Backup sucessfully for some time and its been an essential for someone who like to play around with the system as much as I do. I've been trying to find a piece of backup software that will work to produce a full backup with 6.1 as SPBs doent seem to fully work, even with the help of PIMbackup.
Can anyone point me in the right direction?
Sprite backup
hairyman said:
I've been using SPB Backup sucessfully for some time and its been an essential for someone who like to play around with the system as much as I do. I've been trying to find a piece of backup software that will work to produce a full backup with 6.1 as SPBs doent seem to fully work, even with the help of PIMbackup.
Can anyone point me in the right direction?
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Have you tried sprite backup?
I think that spb backup is the best... but i must affirm that sprite backup offerts more options than spb software (you can restore your data after a rom update)
This is a link for spirites abckup:
http://rapidshare.com/files/108897792/Sprite_Backup_6.2.1_PPC.Regged.rar.html
can you restore your installed software after you flash a different rom
yes, all apps you've installed and your pim, all file in \My documents and registry... all.
guyvice said:
yes, all apps you've installed and your pim, all file in \My documents and registry... all.
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How can you do that and different roms have different settings, doesn't that effect current rom functionality
I tend to find if you restore a backup with spb backup using different roms but same wm06.1 versions what tends to happen is that you end up with the rom that was backed up... BUT because there may have been different apps cooked in you find errors cropping up with soft resets needed a lot and sometimes major lockups that require hard resets.. And thats my 2 cents... cheers
Same release only
ultramag69 said:
I tend to find if you restore a backup with spb backup using different roms but same wm06.1 versions what tends to happen is that you end up with the rom that was backed up... BUT because there may have been different apps cooked in you find errors cropping up with soft resets needed a lot and sometimes major lockups that require hard resets.. And thats my 2 cents... cheers
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This is the same with sprite backup also.
So, if you want a new rom then only backup contacts and messages as there is no point to backup complete OS... Everything needs to be reinstalled anyway. these programs are just in case of events that require hard resets, no good to backup apps or anything...
ultramag69 said:
So, if you want a new rom then only backup contacts and messages as there is no point to backup complete OS... Everything needs to be reinstalled anyway. these programs are just in case of events that require hard resets, no good to backup apps or anything...
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I've you restore after a hard reset or a rom upgrade? what app have you used spb or sprite???
with spb if you do a hard reset you can restore all apps you installed and their settings, before your hard reset (but i've tested only with the same rom).
I use SPB Backup. I was saying that the full os backup is only good for HARD RESETS as it puts the complete os, registry settings and apps onto your hermes. If you reflash your os then restore your backup it overwrites the NEW os with the OLD os, however, because the new os probably doesn't have all the apps that the old os had cooked into it you get errors as the os cant find things it requires. Hope that cleared it up instead of smearing everything with mud....
UC roms
ultramag69 said:
I use SPB Backup. I was saying that the full os backup is only good for HARD RESETS as it puts the complete os, registry settings and apps onto your hermes. If you reflash your os then restore your backup it overwrites the NEW os with the OLD os, however, because the new os probably doesn't have all the apps that the old os had cooked into it you get errors as the os cant find things it requires. Hope that cleared it up instead of smearing everything with mud....
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Its also make you have issue with the new now like freezing up and etc. Its just not worth the headache. Look in UC roms it is very little work to reinstall your app. Do a search for UC roms and read up on it. I'm tell is sweet I just did it for the first time it works like a charm.

Cannot install apps after sprite backup?

Hey
Well I'm using the latest version of the energy ROM on my TP2, whhich i just updated to. Before I upgraded, I used sprite backup to backup all my apps etc. When I come to restore the backup, everything works fine, all my apps and settings etc are there, but when I try installing a new CAB. it just says unsuccessful -.-
Anbody know why? Is it a specific file causing this? how to fix it?
Thanks, Chris

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