Signal Indicator in XDA Live ROM - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

I have a quick question regarding the various indicators on Cingular 8525.
(U, E, G, 3G)
When I had the Cingular 2.06 ROM on the device I was getting either a G, an E or a 3G.
With XDA Live I am now getting a large U with a small E (by the signal strength indicator) in spots where I used to get just a G.
I did see a 3G indicator at my office in Manhattan but also alternated with the U indicator.
Just trying to figure out what system I'm seeing now as indicated by the symbols in this ROM.

if you have the phcanoverbmp.dll from the cingular 3.3 rom then this will fix your issue... actually i just made a cab real quick... try this!

shogunmark said:
if you have the phcanoverbmp.dll from the cingular 3.3 rom then this will fix your issue... actually i just made a cab real quick... try this!
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Thanks....installed CAB file but still have same issue with the indicators. Will mounting the extended ROM with the HTC tweak program help at all?

mikegoldnj said:
I have a quick question regarding the various indicators on Cingular 8525.
(U, E, G, 3G)
When I had the Cingular 2.06 ROM on the device I was getting either a G, an E or a 3G.
With XDA Live I am now getting a large U with a small E (by the signal strength indicator) in spots where I used to get just a G.
I did see a 3G indicator at my office in Manhattan but also alternated with the U indicator.
Just trying to figure out what system I'm seeing now as indicated by the symbols in this ROM.
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I'm having the same issue as well. My connection fluctuates just like that, on occasion. If I'm streaming something, my connection drops. It seems like a hand-off issue - but I'm really not sure.

Man, this is unbelievable. was just about to start this thread when I refreshed, and ta daa! here it allready is.
I did not have the cingular ROM, but the AKU 3.3 Test, and I did not have these issues on that ROM. I recently upgraded to Radio .134 though, could that have an effect?
What do you guys think this is? Is UMTMS available, but actual connection is edge? why would that be? Or is it just a spelling mistake in the reg somewhere?

My guess is the graphic for the indicator is being incorrectly seleced, the best test for which connection you are on is to do a speed test on bandwidthplace.com. Depending on what speed you actually get this will indicate the connection you are using.
EDIT:: According to wikipedia (yes i know....best i could find)
GPRS -> 30-40kbps
EDGE -> up to 236.8kbps
UMTS -> up to 384kbps
HSDPA -> (from my own experience) around the 1 to 1.5 mbps mark
(these might not be very accurate)

OK, so how will we be posting this problem in the XDA Live problems thread? as an incorrect graphic or something else?
Being in SAfrica with our slow GPRS coms, I'd say this is one of 2 things:
1. graphical error : U should be E, as it is actually an edge connection
2. something else, should be G, but for some reason shows U with E over signal bar ????

when i loaded the rom i was getting a U when i am actually on edge.. the phcanoverbmp.dll fixed this issue for me.. although this could have something to do with the ril.dll and rilgsm.dll ... out of curiosity which providers do you guys have?

shogunmark said:
when i loaded the rom i was getting a U when i am actually on edge.. the phcanoverbmp.dll fixed this issue for me.. although this could have something to do with the ril.dll and rilgsm.dll ... out of curiosity which providers do you guys have?
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I'm on Cingular in NJ.
where does the CAB file install the dll? Windows directory? I want to make sure it's where it should be.

yes, that is where it should be.. i made the cab automatically install it there... this should work on cing/att on any radio after 1.30... im not sure about anything pre 1.27...

mikegoldnj said:
I'm on Cingular in NJ.
where does the CAB file install the dll? Windows directory? I want to make sure it's where it should be.
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I'm in NYC on Cingular and have the same issues. The cab didn't fix it for me either. I'm running Radio 1.35 (what ever was included w/ 2.06) and the XDA Live ROM.

You wouldn't have radio 1.35 unless you installed that individually, its a trinity radio that has gps enable. If the last radio you did was included in the Cingular 2.06 ROM then you have 1.33 or 1.34. Though in the end I don't think this has an effect.
I have 2 main areas that I connect in, one is work (3G service) and home (Edge) on Cingular in Orlando. I will test this once I get home since that is the only place I get the big "U" and little "E" when connected.

what i am stating is that through my own personal testing it seems as if the pre1.30 radio's reported differently on the cingular roms than the post 1.30 radios did... and this seems to be the difference on how the ril.dll and rilgsm.dll gets its information from the radio.. now the last time i spoke to kyphur he injected the rill.dll and rilgsm.dll from the cingular aku3.3 release into the WMXL, however im not sure if it was included with the latest release... if he did not include those in the release then the phcanoverbmp.dll might not function correctly..

shogunmark said:
what i am stating is that through my own personal testing it seems as if the pre1.30 radio's reported differently on the cingular roms than the post 1.30 radios did... and this seems to be the difference on how the ril.dll and rilgsm.dll gets its information from the radio.. now the last time i spoke to kyphur he injected the rill.dll and rilgsm.dll from the cingular aku3.3 release into the WMXL, however im not sure if it was included with the latest release... if he did not include those in the release then the phcanoverbmp.dll might not function correctly..
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Got ya... Well I will look for it in the .2 release or deal with it in until the final release. Either way the work that is coming off of this site is amazing.

I don't like the way the indicator has changed either. On WM5 AKU 3.3 I got the following:
G = GPRS (worst signal - slow)
U = UTMS (3G area - upto about 360 kbps)
H = HSPDA (best signal area - upto about 900 kbps)
Now I've upgraded to XDA-Live I only ever get a G or a 3G. There's no way to tell if I'm going to get UTMS or HSPA speeds without testing. Before I could move around to find HSPDA easily.
This is on T-mobile UK. (Note: no "E" here. We don't get EDGE.)

shogunmark said:
yes, that is where it should be.. i made the cab automatically install it there... this should work on cing/att on any radio after 1.30... im not sure about anything pre 1.27...
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I did find the dll there.....I have radio 1.34 installed.
unfortunately not working for me. still have the problem.
I also see the following files: phcanhtc, phcanrc, phcanrc.dll.0409

mikegoldnj said:
I did find the dll there.....I have radio 1.34 installed.
unfortunately not working for me. still have the problem.
I also see the following files: phcanhtc, phcanrc, phcanrc.dll.0409
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those shouldnt make a difference.. however i can go ahead and make a cab that includes all three.. I will give warning though... one of those might cause the phone to not boot back up, SO make a back up before installing this as you might have to do a hard reset......

***WARNING***
This cab may cause your phone not to reboot.. MAKE A BACKUP before installing. IF your phone does not reboot then you will need to do a hard reset..

shogunmark said:
***WARNING***
This cab may cause your phone not to reboot.. MAKE A BACKUP before installing. IF your phone does not reboot then you will need to do a hard reset..
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I appreciate the CAB file...but.......I really don't want to risk this right now. I will wait for the next version of the ROM and see what happens......

shogunmark said:
***WARNING***
This cab may cause your phone not to reboot.. MAKE A BACKUP before installing. IF your phone does not reboot then you will need to do a hard reset..
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What changes are made with this cab?

Related

WM5 AKU3 / WM6 little 3G icon

Hi,
On Universal WM5 AKU 3 versions, and WM6 the little G icon in the upper left corner of signal strength icon is not correctly displayed.
G is displayed instead of 3G when Universal is connected to the internet via 3G.
So my current toy is to fix this
Helmi talked about RSSI_Icons.dll on an other forum. ( Thanks )
RSSI_Icons.dll is responsible for radio signal strength and big data icon displaying.
I have written a new RSSI_Icons.dll.
It's a very first version, so it may contain bugs.
And unfortunately I don't have possibility to test it under different network conditions. It's working in my room(3G), and it's working If I try it on G network. But who knows
So anybody who likes can try it and report any bugs here. Thanks!
Install :
- unzip RSSI_Icons.zip and copy RSSI_Icons.dll to Universal's Windows directory
- soft reset
Uninstall:
- rename RSSI_Icons.dll to RSSI_Icon.dll for example
- soft reset
- After soft reset you will see original RSSI_Icons.dll because it's in ROM
- delete RSSI_Icon.dll
See the attached screenshots with the new RSSI_Icons.dll
First pic:
Universal is esablishing connection to the internet on 3G network.
Animated arrows, and little 3G icon!
Second Pic:
Universal is connected to the internet via 3G.
Notice little 3G icon
Version 2 (RSSI_IconsV2.zip)
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- Fixed small memory leak bug and slightly modified conditions
- Before installing uninstall previous version
I will leave previous version here if somebody have problem with V2.
szilamer said:
Hi,
On Universal WM5 AKU 3 versions, and WM6 the little G icon in the upper left corner of signal strength icon is not correctly displayed.
G is displayed instead of 3G when Universal is connected to the internet via 3G.
So my current toy is to fix this
Helmi talked about RSSI_Icons.dll on an other forum. ( Thanks )
RSSI_Icons.dll is responsible for radio signal strength and big data icon displaying.
I have written a new RSSI_Icons.dll.
It's a very first version, so it may contain bugs.
And unfortunately I don't have possibility to test it under different network conditions. It's working in my room(3G), and it's working If I try it on G network. But who knows
So anybody who likes can try it and report any bugs here. Thanks!
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Have tried it on O2 in London and seems to work fine. Couldn't get a 3G connection at first but I suspect that that was probably down to the weather at the time! Now I have a 3G connection, it seems to swap icons happily when I go from 3G to GPRS. Thanks for curing that annoying niggle!
Ok..work perfectly!
Installed... Nice tweak, congrats!
3g tweak
I niticed that I no longer was able to activate wifi with your dll. The option is not there and wifi would not activate in the com manager.
QAN said:
I niticed that I no longer was able to activate wifi with your dll. The option is not there and wifi would not activate in the com manager.
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It's not my dll's fault. Maybe one program that was installed before.
I use wifi every day and I can activate it from the big G/3G icon and from Comm Manager.
And I'm using my own RSSI_Icons.dll of course
IRREAL said:
Ok..work perfectly!
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Also try V2 version
A very neat patch!
Works for me and both tested with GPRS and 3G networks.
Muchos Gracias!!
Install :
- unzip RSSI_Icons.zip and copy RSSI_Icons.dll to Universal's Windows directory
- soft reset
szilamer, Hi your little dll file is just what ive been after (such a small thing that is just so annoying) however the dll wont copy into windows access denied? Is there a spaecial route to take on this do i have to remove some properties of the windows folder or am i just doing it wrong???
Ta
Sparks24
sparks24 said:
Install :
- unzip RSSI_Icons.zip and copy RSSI_Icons.dll to Universal's Windows directory
- soft reset
szilamer, Hi your little dll file is just what ive been after (such a small thing that is just so annoying) however the dll wont copy into windows access denied? Is there a spaecial route to take on this do i have to remove some properties of the windows folder or am i just doing it wrong???
Ta
Sparks24
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You can use Total Commander for file copying on Universal and it won't show access denied message
Sorted !!!
Thank You
big g/u icon
Hi is there a way of converting the large G/U icon to say 3G instead of U??
If you understand me. When connected to umts it says U but the small icons now say 3g. Hmmmmmm confusing.
Not working
Hello all,
Tried this in a i-amte JasJar, with Helmi's WM Aku 3.2, and did not get the little U, altough I was for sure conected in UMTS mode.
In fact, the only diference I could see, is that the normal, big U, dissapeared, and now it shows only big G, no matter wath kind of phone connection I get.
Any ideas?
TIA
vmiguel
vmiguel said:
Hello all,
Tried this in a i-amte JasJar, with Helmi's WM Aku 3.2, and did not get the little U, altough I was for sure conected in UMTS mode.
In fact, the only diference I could see, is that the normal, big U, dissapeared, and now it shows only big G, no matter wath kind of phone connection I get.
Any ideas?
TIA
vmiguel
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I don't have this error because I'm Using Helmi WM6 1.1.
It seems that your OS didn't load my RSSI_Icons.dll at all.
The factory default RSSI_Icons.dll is only responsible for big U, and when you overwrite it with mine and your OS doesn't like it, you will only see big G.
The question is why..
Do you see warning bubbles when you run unsigned exe/dlls ?
sparks24 said:
Hi is there a way of converting the large G/U icon to say 3G instead of U??
If you understand me. When connected to umts it says U but the small icons now say 3g. Hmmmmmm confusing.
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Yes, I understand.
It's strange because big 3G icon is included in my RSSI_Icons.dll.
Windows should call the exported LoadOemDataIcon and LoadOemDataIcon should do LoadIcon for big 3G if HKLM\System\OEM_State\RSSI, CSAF value is 16. Can you check this registry value ?
If it's present, then something other is the problem.
Maybe windows doesn't call at all LoadOemDataIcon on your OS.
I don't know
But if you like drawing you can use a resource editor to change small 3Gs to Us. That's my last idea, but it must work
Hi,
I've been using this since it came out, both V1 and V2, however, I've noticed a problem with it, I think.
I don't get the text and mail notification icons in the top bar (possibly voicemail too), and when there are multiple notifications (when you get the speech bubble) then the lower bar is always empty.
I can't say all of these symptoms are due to this DLL, but the text icon definately seems to be.
For info, I'm using Helmi's v1.1 Crossbow.
Cheers,
Steve.
StevePritchard said:
Hi,
I've been using this since it came out, both V1 and V2, however, I've noticed a problem with it, I think.
I don't get the text and mail notification icons in the top bar (possibly voicemail too), and when there are multiple notifications (when you get the speech bubble) then the lower bar is always empty.
I can't say all of these symptoms are due to this DLL, but the text icon definately seems to be.
For info, I'm using Helmi's v1.1 Crossbow.
Cheers,
Steve.
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I noticed on mine, I don't have the small bubble notification on top like on AKU 2 ROMs, but it was replaced by a big bubble notification showing how much I was charged with an OK button. A temporary mail icon appeared for 5 seconds followed by a left soft key notification, which I setup from settings. I also have the flashing orange light setup with sounds. So I think we have a lot of options here to remind us that there is a message.
I forgot to mention, I am using PDAViet's ROM.
I'm definately missing some of the icons on the top bar - they have returned now I've uninstalled.
Cheers,
Steve.
StevePritchard said:
I'm definately missing some of the icons on the top bar - they have returned now I've uninstalled.
Cheers,
Steve.
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Were you using V1 or V2. I have been using V2.
cktlcmd said:
Were you using V1 or V2. I have been using V2.
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V2
Cheers,
Steve

Use telephone and data connection at the same time?

Back when I had the base Cingular WM5 rom on my phone I was able to talk on the phone and have my data connection going at the same time. Since upgrading to WM6, XDA Live .20 and Black 2.0 I have not been able to get that feature back. To make a call it has to disconnect me. Then once I get off the phone call the data connection connects again. I tried the Allways On option in HTweakC that came with the WM6 releases but that doesn't appear to be what I am looking for. Does anyone else notice this or have a fix?
My device maintains a data connection whilst I am on voice calls. I receive emails fine whilst talking. Its on Black 2.0
KanosWRX said:
Does anyone else notice this or have a fix?
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yes.. try your phone and data in a 3G area... voice and data only works in 3G not edge......
I have tried it in a 3G area, right by my work I have 4 bars of 3G. But everytime I try to call or get a call it always closes the data connection.
try using bandswitch and manually fixing the phone to 3G only.. just to make sure its really on 3G and not secretly on Edge..
When I select the WCDMA Network I get the 3G Icon, when I select the GSM Network I get the E Icon. So I think it knows the difference between 3G and E just fine. I leave the "band" setting set to Auto.
BTW I am using radio rom 1.38.00.10 now, but even when I had the factory 1.16.00.00 I still had this problem with WM6. It only seemed to work with WM5. Another strange thing, in the phone app it says UMTS Cingular, just another sign it is actually using UMTS (3G).
Its just so annoying if I am online doing anything, slingbox, browsing the web, then when I want to make a call, it usually fails the first time while it disconnects then it goes through
Another odd thing probably just part of the new radio rom, when online and it starts to load data it switches to an H icon, I guess for HPDSA or whatever that abbreviation is.
Are you sure its really closing the data connection? Ignore the icons. Send yourself some emails and see if they arrive whilst on voicecall.
KanosWRX said:
When I select the WCDMA Network I get the 3G Icon, when I select the GSM Network I get the E Icon. So I think it knows the difference between 3G and E just fine. I leave the "band" setting set to Auto.
BTW I am using radio rom 1.38.00.10 now, but even when I had the factory 1.16.00.00 I still had this problem with WM6. It only seemed to work with WM5. Another strange thing, in the phone app it says UMTS Cingular, just another sign it is actually using UMTS (3G).
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i was saying to do this as a test, just to make sure the phone wasnt doing something funny... just some basic troubleshooting to help find the problem...
kinda like if your car wont start.. there are different problems that could cause it, maybe its out of gas, maybe the fuel filter is clogged, maybe the battery is dead.. different things can cause similiar problems, its better to eliminate all possibilities
I tested it this morning, data and voice works fine at the same time. Called voicemail and then opened up IE and was able to load several pages while on the call.
Edit, where are you located? Is it possible there is a problem with the network there? Try downgrading back to the Cingular software and see if that works.
Shogunmark, I figured thats what you were getting at, and I tried all the options I could that would give me a connection to the network, but I still couldn't do data and telephone at the same time. Everytime I was connected online then went to place a data call it would have to disconnect me first. I tried doing a phone call then connecting online, but nothing would load.
I guess I could try going back to WM5, but I have hard spl 1.4 on so I gotta do a little rom editing of the cingular rom to get WM5 back I guess. didn't realize it was that complicated to go back to factory after installing hard spl.
Im surprised no one else has this issue. Its been like this for me pretty much as long as I have had WM6, so I doubt its the cingular network.
KanosWRX said:
Shogunmark, I figured thats what you were getting at, and I tried all the options I could that would give me a connection to the network, but I still couldn't do data and telephone at the same time. Everytime I was connected online then went to place a data call it would have to disconnect me first. I tried doing a phone call then connecting online, but nothing would load.
I guess I could try going back to WM5, but I have hard spl 1.4 on so I gotta do a little rom editing of the cingular rom to get WM5 back I guess. didn't realize it was that complicated to go back to factory after installing hard spl.
Im surprised no one else has this issue. Its been like this for me pretty much as long as I have had WM6, so I doubt its the cingular network.
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not at all, just drop a WM5 NBH into a folder with CustomRUU and use autodetect. it'll flash quite happily
How would I take the HTC Cingular rom (found here, http://www.america.htc.com/support/8525/software-downloads.html) and get the WM5 NBH? Or will I have to use another WM5 version?
Just chiming in to say I don't have this problem and I've used both those roms and still using WMXL 0.20 now and use data and calling all the time. I am using the same radio ROM as you now too and it still works ok.
What apps do you have installed? anything that would end the data connection for some reason? Maybe put a list of apps and customisations you've made since installing the WM6 rom you have?
You could also try it with a blank WM6 rom, manually add the data connection settings and try and see if that works? Just to eliminate 3rd party apps and thing's you've changed.
The only other similar thing i can think of is I do remember there was an issue where data would disconnect when changing between 3G and EDGE. I don't remember who had this problem or why but it could be related.
Let us know how it goes?
Maz
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This would be great to add to the bug tracker website when I finish it.
http://maz.net.au/
KanosWRX said:
How would I take the HTC Cingular rom (found here, http://www.america.htc.com/support/8525/software-downloads.html) and get the WM5 NBH? Or will I have to use another WM5 version?
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Use this guide to go back to the Cingular ROM.
http://www.mrvanx.myzen.co.uk/hermes_guide/Downgrade/index.html
Here are the apps I have
Resco File Explorer
Core Media Player
Slingbox
Don't run to many apps on my ppc as you can see. I mainly just use it to stream media from home (orb, slingbox), and internet connection sharing. I'll probably find some time tonight to revert back to WM5 and let you know what I find.
Well I just flashed back to the cingular rom, and guess what it's working again, can talk on the phone and be on the internet at the same time. So weird. well I guess I will try going back to Black 2.0 and see what happens.
Kanos,
Your problem is definitely not WM6. As in WM5, I can concurrently browse the internet during a voice call. As Mark said, there may be other issues specific to your case -- you'll have to methodically eliminate one-by-one... you'll have to decide if the process is really worth the time yourself.
FWIW:
Radio 1.34
HERMES 200 HT625 (in use since 7/4/2006)
Network: Manual (Taiwan UMTS)
Band: Auto/GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100)
Cheers
I believe it's not truly a problem with WM6, as people obviously have gotten it to work. I will definitely look into it more and keep you all updated on what I find. Right now I am still on WM5 but I will flash back to WM6, no apps installed, right after a fresh hard reset and see if it works or not for me.
I decided to try LVSW this time. Guess what it worked, I was able to both data and phone at the same time. Next test will be to install Black 2.0 again and see what happens.
My theory is this, I had XDALive .10 and maybe that version had this issue, then when I upgraded to .20 it carried over somehow and then carried over to black 2.0. Then once I went back to WM5 it reset everything. Don't ask me how, but obviously I have a lot more flashing to do to test this theory.
the imate site on wm5 proclaim this as a problem. when u r receiving data at a specific point in time u cannot receive a call.
the aust. telstra latest release says the upgrade fixes this.
to bypass going back to wm5 i just used the xda radio only upgrade to try and bypass. this was i believe only when receiving data and a call inwards simultaneously.
otherwise i have never had ur problem n likely a flash issue.
there is another i have noticed in recent releases is activesync now asks to allow data to be received when activesync this is a 4.5 change so perhaps looking for this setting may also help ur simultaneous data issue. just a guess but it might have been easy to not allow this when u upgraded to wmg which rwquired 4.5 to do this.
anyway goodluck with it.

Radio problems with LVSW/Radio ROM

I am using LVSW ROMs since 26/03 version, through 08/04 until present 19/05. I also have 1.41 version of Radio ROM. Since I've started using these ROMs, I'm noticing problems with radio stack.
For example, while I was driving a car across Europe (UK->PL) few weeks ago, GSM module hanged almost every time I was crossing a border between countries and phone was loosing signal from one country and had to register in another. All I could see was little [!] sign instead of signal bars, and restarting phone module and/or whole device could help it. Two days ago I was on M1 from Sheffield to London and I've noticed that GSM module just died - pressing green button did just nothing (despite I had full signal bars), and people trying to call me that time, were saying they had regular calling signal, like I was missing a call. Besides that whole device was working properly, with no problems whatsoever.
On the other hand, I have no problems with dropped calls or data sessions. Looks like it is happening mainly on the move, and phone has problems with registering with network properly.
So there is a question(s) - does anyone have similar problems with LVSW ROMs or 1.41 Radio ROM? Should I downgrade Radio ROM to 1.40 or 1.38? I have HardSPLv7 installed, so is it safe to just use this RUU - ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Hermes/HERM_Radio_Only_1.40.30.00_CustomRUU.rar ? I've been searching forums, but haven't found much information on *downgrading* Radio ROM in particular.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Its the radio rom causing you problems. I've also had problems with data connections in particular using ROM 1.40 and 1.41 (in Asia, on UMTS and EDGE networks).
Suggest you re-flash the pretty-much proven 1.38 ROM. You can find the download link from the Wiki.
radio downgrade
I used the 1.40 on black 2.5 and it was ok , then I upgraded to 1.41 radio and I had problems with the sound quality so I downgraded to 1.40 and the sound become back good
I have HardSPLv7 installed and I am on orange IL Israel
I used for downgrade CustomRUU and had no problems on the downgrade prosses
now i am using the last version of LVWS with radio 1.40 and it is working ok
hope this info help you
another remark :
try to install first the radion and on top of it os and not first os and then radio , i notice in a change of battery life in those 2 variants
Were you driving too fast for the phone to keep up with the radio transmitters passing by????
I'm also using LVSW 19-05 and Radio 1.41 but not having any significant issues unless a program runs at 100%, then the person trying to call me hangs up before the phone starts ringing!
Ciao Oggy.
It's not the LVSW ROM.....! It's the radio 1.41 And this radio was tuned for Cingular. I am on Cingular and i personally think that 1.40 is much much better. Read up on the two radio topics for more info on the two. So the bottom line is it's NOT LVSW at fault here. it's the 1.41 radio...
DAFTEK said:
It's not the LVSW ROM.....! It's the radio 1.41 And this radio was tuned for Cingular. I am on Cingular and i personally think that 1.40 is much much better. Read up on the two radio topics for more info on the two. So the bottom line is it's NOT LVSW at fault here. it's the 1.41 radio...
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Yeah, that's what I thought, but wasn't 100% sure either. I'm going to downgrade to 1.40 tonight and will observe any results...
Thanks to all for your inputs.
to be fair I think there is a problem with t-mobile uk at the moment with handovers, let me explain.......
I have a active data connection.........
phone is on 3G, everything fine
phone switches to 2G, data connection is still active, no problems
phone switches to 3G, data connection is broken and the radio reboots (scrolling dots ect.)
I can (and have) replicated this with EVERY radio from 1.27 to 1.41 (and I do mean EVERY radio)
I've also tried EVERY WM6 rom out there all do the same.
so I can only think its T-mobile playing up, its just strange that everything worked fine with WM5 as I remember (and no Im not flashing back to find out!)
Hi, I'm in the Netherlands. Just tested the 1.40 because 1.41 disconnected all the time. So far so good (5 calls later..). Downgrade went fine with the customRUU. Regards Bas
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to be fair I think there is a problem with t-mobile uk at the moment with handovers, let me explain.......
I have a active data connection.........
phone is on 3G, everything fine
phone switches to 2G, data connection is still active, no problems
phone switches to 3G, data connection is broken and the radio reboots (scrolling dots ect.)
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Interesting - it might be worth to check, but here in London it's actually hard to find a place where phone would switch itself 3G->2G. But anyway, I had problems not only on T-Mobile UK network, as I stated in first post, so I rather think it's Radio ROM related problem, more than network.
Sorry...I've been to positive. Right now only incoming calls come through. Outgoing is still a disaster. I'll downgrade to 1.38. Ill let you know if this works..
Currently in Thailand on DTAC, an EDGE network (all their GSM networks here have EDGE).
Radio 1.40: Voice calls were okay, didn't seem to have any problems, until I tried using data (gprs/edge). The data connection was completely unstable and unusable. Downgraded to radio 1.38...
Radio 1.38: Everything okay so far, EDGE data and voice calls.
Same boat!
Yup, same thing here with T-Mobile and the 3G/2G thingy.
Though I must admit 1.40 is pretty sucky anyway, 1.41 was worse.
Considering going back to 1.38, I've forgotten what it came with 1.2x or something, which, for its sins was pretty OK.
Oi! T-Mobile!! Sort it out before I head back to Orange!!!!
Actually, forget that rant, no point taking two steps backwards and starting to pay per MB again!!! LMAO
mccreath said:
Yup, same thing here with T-Mobile and the 3G/2G thingy.
Though I must admit 1.40 is pretty sucky anyway, 1.41 was worse.
Considering going back to 1.38, I've forgotten what it came with 1.2x or something, which, for its sins was pretty OK.
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One more thing, which just came to my mind - in the original T-Mobile's MDA Vario II Extended ROM there is a file called P_rilgsm_patch.CAB, which could be related to Radio. Maybe this is a key for these problems? I guess this patch is network-specific - well, I believe this patch is there for a reason...
Btw, I've just downgraded to 1.40...
Error message flashing Radio 1.40.30
Hope someone can help me with this. I'm encountering an error message when trying to flash to radio 1.40.30. I have Custel 2.5 installed on a JasJam with Radio 1.41 currently.
When I run the update RUU program and click the AutoDetect button, I get a message that says "Error, Unknown version! You should pick SSPL".
I have HardSPL7 installed, so my question is, is it safe to force SSPL? Is that what it is asking me to do?
Thanks.
Nevermind, I think I found the answer finally - it only took many days:
1. Select "2.10 new..."
2. Tick "Is it HARD Spl?"
And then run the update as per normal.
where is the link to downgrade the radio 1.38
thanks
naxos said:
where is the link to downgrade the radio 1.38
thanks
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You will find all the Radio roms available at this link:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms
thanks man
tried P_rilgsm_patch.CAB which as made abit of a mess Could some post rilgsm.dll from a LVSW rom plz as I managed to backup the wrong file
ratcom said:
tried P_rilgsm_patch.CAB which as made abit of a mess Could some post rilgsm.dll from a LVSW rom plz as I managed to backup the wrong file
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OK, but how to actually copy/send rilgsm.dll file?? Each time I have 'File cannot be copied' message, or such like... :-o
Btw, what happened, when you applied rilgsm patch?
i now get a "E" icon instead of "3G" and the radio seems slower handing over from 3G to 2G and back (thank god my stairs are 2G only!) I've sent you a PM on how to copy that file.

LVSW 3.30.3.3 and HSDPA bug - are there solutions?

I've updated my Hermes with latest LVSW ROM release, which I am quite happy about, besides HSDPA issue. I've checked the thread, but it got sooo loong already, that it is pretty hard to find anything useful information out there, besides the fact that there actually *is* HSDPA problem with that ROM.
So, I have just one, plain question and I'm hoping to get plain answer - is there any straightforward fix for that HSDPA issue (like additional .cab file to be installed), or do we need actually wait for the next ROM release and do full update then?
And please, let's not make another drama out of this topic, with conspiracy theories 'differences between WWE and RUS versions, and why is that' and stuff like that. Just plain answers please, which will benefit to all those who are actually interested in that. Thanks.
eva_d said:
I've updated my Hermes with latest LVSW ROM release, which I am quite happy about, besides HSDPA issue. I've checked the thread, but it got sooo loong already, that it is pretty hard to find anything useful information out there, besides the fact that there actually *is* HSDPA problem with that ROM.
So, I have just one, plain question and I'm hoping to get plain answer - is there any straightforward fix for that HSDPA issue (like additional .cab file to be installed), or do we need actually wait for the next ROM release and do full update then?
And please, let's not make another drama out of this topic, with conspiracy theories 'differences between WWE and RUS versions, and why is that' and stuff like that. Just plain answers please, which will benefit to all those who are actually interested in that. Thanks.
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it appears the rimgsm.dll has issues in the 17745 RTM release from HTC... hence was replaced in "some" ROMs... not lsvw...
I have 3.30.2.1 LVSW based. What is the HSDPA issue? My issue is the phone needs rebooted to connect to the internet. Also, the wifi kind of stinks when you have 10 access points near you. I had these exact issues on the forst few WM5 ROMs i used for my 8125. Deja Vu
jgaston said:
I have 3.30.2.1 LVSW based. What is the HSDPA issue?
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It concerns only the very latest 3.30.3.3 version. Basically, HSDPA support is broken in that ROM version. In fact, when phone is in 3G mode, network speeds are just like GPRS (~50-60 kbps). Besides that, ROM is just perfect...
I get 980k on LVSW baseed ROM. I use Cingular in USA DC. I got the vp3G's take on LVSW 05-19 3.30.2.1 [CINGULAR-optimized] ROM working. I have to reboot everyonce and awhile when I switch proxy and no proxy on my 3G connections and turn on/off the Internet Sharing with a laptop.
HSDPA bug
Hi,
I'm not running this rom, but I looked at it and compared it to austinsync's fixed version. In addition to replacing the rilgsm.dll file, he changed and deleted other stuff, most of which doesn't relate to this issue. I've been wondering if just replacing the rilgsm.dll file would fix the problem, so for those of you that want to try, I'm attaching the "working" version that austinsync used. Try copying it into your /windows directory, overwriting the one that's there (you may need to use total commander to overwrite the system file, I forget), then do a soft reboot. Worth a try!
Best wishes,
Just make sure to back up your original. After I added this file -- the phone will not turn on. The handset boots and all is well, but the radio will not work.
shovelhed said:
Just make sure to back up your original. After I added this file -- the phone will not turn on. The handset boots and all is well, but the radio will not work.
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Thanks for that input - I was *just* about to replace my rilgsm.dll...
shovelhed said:
Just make sure to back up your original. After I added this file -- the phone will not turn on. The handset boots and all is well, but the radio will not work.
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Ouch! Sorry about that.
You could try just deleting the file and a soft reboot. It should "re-expose" the original file.
Best wishes,
just replacing the rilgsm.dll will not fix it! your radio will not work if you do so. I would recommend using my release that has this issue fixed or another such as the one slueth came out with today but its based off another build. link the my fixed rom is in my sig.
That's based off other builds actually. Consider it a "Best of WM6" compilation. Even though my core CE/HAL is from the Hermes RTM build, HSDPA connectivity actually comes from the mun_rus imgfs core labeled CE 5.2.1413 and may have some universal components. This one had the least bugs and best thruput when coupled with radio v1.40 and >
Sleuth255 said:
That's based off other builds actually. Consider it a "Best of WM6" compilation. Even though my core CE/HAL is from the Hermes RTM build, HSDPA connectivity actually comes from the mun_rus imgfs core labeled CE 5.2.1413 and may have some universal components. This one had the least bugs and best thruput when coupled with radio v1.40 and >
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I tried both yours (Sleuth) and Austinsync's ROMs but none worked for HSDPA. I tried reverting to an older ROM which I used before with HSDPA.. and it is ALSO NOT WORKING! :O :O
Is this thing some sort of non-downgradeable horror from space? It is present even after flashing to an OLD ROM!
Does it survive because it came from a more recent build of WM6?
Maybe most of you dont really care about that bug so much, but I actually depend on HSDPA.
Is there a FIX? ANY FIX!? I dont care to go back to an old ROM! How can I completely annihilate my phone's ROM and install from scratch?
Did you see the "H" icon displayed when you tried HSDPA on my ROM? If so, then the pipe to the towers was 700K - 1meg. What occurs after that is dependent on your carrier's network. In fact, I would suspect this, not your ROM, if downgrading caused no difference.
When downgrading, you removed everything: no settings can linger between hard resets. Since your problem still occurred, I'd say its something to do with your carrier. Or.... you are running a non HSDPA capable radio. Check the wiki for how to determine this.
alkizmo said:
Is this thing some sort of non-downgradeable horror from space? It is present even after flashing to an OLD ROM!
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lol... pretty funny!
Seriously, HSPDA is working great for me on sleuth's rom, and actually all the new roms (except LVSW's). Maybe there was a service problem in your area lately? Also, double check your carrier settings.
I also think it would be nice if someone could come up with a fix short of rebuilding the rom as austinsync has, or just fix that one issue and leave everything else alone.
Regards,
edhaas said:
lol... pretty funny!
Seriously, HSPDA is working great for me on sleuth's rom, and actually all the new roms (except LVSW's). Maybe there was a service problem in your area lately? Also, double check your carrier settings.
I also think it would be nice if someone could come up with a fix short of rebuilding the rom as austinsync has, or just fix that one issue and leave everything else alone.
Regards,
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I have exactly the same problem. Nice rom but on HDSPA I get around 64kbit speed (( totally suxx
Sleuth - No HSDPA icon at all. I know it normally appears when Im pulling data. With this HSDPA bug my speedtests show UMTS scores now (250-300kbps)
edhaas said:
lol... pretty funny!
Seriously, HSPDA is working great for me on sleuth's rom, and actually all the new roms (except LVSW's). Maybe there was a service problem in your area lately? Also, double check your carrier settings.
I also think it would be nice if someone could come up with a fix short of rebuilding the rom as austinsync has, or just fix that one issue and leave everything else alone.
Regards,
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Did you upgrade to a broken HSDPA rom before using Sleuth's? If not, then it is obvious that your phone wouldnt be infected.
It is NOT my carrier. I was using HSDPA until my phone turned off for ROM upgrade. Then after the upgrade was complete, HSDPA wouldnt come back.
Sleuth255 said:
When downgrading, you removed everything: no settings can linger between hard resets. Since your problem still occurred, I'd say its something to do with your carrier. Or.... you are running a non HSDPA capable radio. Check the wiki for how to determine this.
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Ive tried radio 1.40.30 which is tested and proven in the past.
Oh and NOT everything is gone when you flash. Sometimes, I still have a previous ROM's flash screen when booting up (like now i got your ROM, but i still see Black Dymond's screen at boot). The radio doesnt disapear either.
Wouldnt it be possible for something to get stuck as well? Especially when it is radio related.
Hi Alkizmo,
Sorry if I seemed flip. I have heard horror stories of bad flashes, etc.. In Wizard land where I come from, the advice is often given to downgrade to a stock carrier rom before reflashing a new rom. In my own experience this has only been useful for me once out of many dozens of flashes. I would expect sleuth has flashed hundreds if not thousands of times. My experience is that a flash wipes out everything related to that flash, i.e. an os flash wipes out the os, a splash screen flash wipes out the splash, a radio flash wipes out the radio. Try reflashing with another rom that includes "extended_rom", this will reset everything, then try again. If you need to you can downgrade to your original carrier rom. (Check the threads for downgrading, I haven't had to do it on a Hermes yet.) Again, I have tried all the recent roms, and HSPDA works well with all of them except the one this thread is about. I am getting about 900k with sleuths rom here in the NYC area.
Good luck!
I understand that you don't want to recommend something that might brick my phone.
However, contrary to common thinking, there ARE things that get passed on from flash to flash (hence the flash screen not changing).
Now onto the matter of HSDPA :
I've managed to get HSDPA signal, but only by changing location. Weird thing is, I've got HSDPA in my apartment before, now I dont anymore unless I walk away to some place around.
My signal is STRONG on 3G yet no HSDPA.
Ok, at least I can go back to the new ROMs that I liked and figure out how to get better signal to acquire HSDPA.

[The ALL-RADIO Excalibur Thread]

hey i was looking at the other forums and they all contain some kind of radio rom thread with many radio roms and its sticky'd so i decided i should make one also so everyone can find radio roms easily and flash them and see which they get the best performance out of!
some radios extracted with thanks to: da_mayhem
T-Mobile WM6 Radio - 4.1.13.34_02.79.90
HTC WM6 WWE ROM - 4.1.13.44_02.94.90
Rogers WM6 Radio - 4,1,13,47_02.98.90
New 4.1.13.51_03.07.90 radio
and finally some VOX radio's I converted over to the Excalibur/Dash
Vox Radio 4.1.13.47_02.98.90
Vox Radio 4.1.13.37_02.83.90
Vox Radio 4.1.13.47_02.94.90
Vox Radio 4.1.13.60_03.18.90
Make sure you have the USPL loaded into your device (Thanks to jockyw2001)
**How to Flash**
1. download the USPL file
2. Run USPL.bat and follow the instructions
3. once your screen turns blank and the USPL.bat application finishes open up the radio rom file you would like to flash and run the RomUpdateUtility.exe file
4. Report your results so others can see!!
***Flash at your own risk and ask questions or read if your uncertain as to what to do***
well ill be the first one to post my results. out of all the radios i believe the 02.98.90 radio gives me the best service in my area
battery life not bad either
im in Woodland Hills CA and using tmobile service
i can say out of the 3 official ones ive used only the rogers one had a decent reception in my area....
I am intrigued with the vox ones... ill have to load one of them up this week and test it.
I was wondering... is any of these radios known to drop calls?
I'll explain myself. I usually call someone and some people will hang up and call back. The fact is that these kind of calls won't usually come through, as they receive the message from the network operator that the terminal is powered off or out of coverage (rough translation).
If they call back once again, this time the call comes in.
Any ideas on what's causing this behaviour?
A similar problem happens when I'm on the data connection chatting with palringo or browsing the web. If someone calls me in these moments the call won't come through.
Bump!
Any ideas on this issue?
Which Radio ROM would you suggest I downgrade to given that now I have 4.1.13.51_03.07.90?
Just wondering, what these radio roms did, and do they affect you having wm6.1/6/5?
Were can I go to see what radio version I have installed on my dash?
stickman said:
Bump!
Any ideas on this issue?
Which Radio ROM would you suggest I downgrade to given that now I have 4.1.13.51_03.07.90?
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yeah im wondering that to since i get alot of dropped calls now
Well, I think I've narrowed the problem to a provider issue.
I'm on a unlimited data plan and have palringo and exchange server setup so I'm always online.
So, I get the above mentioned behaviour, but it just doesn't happen with the dash. My Nokia E65 does the very same thing, call won't come through sometimes if I'm idling on palringo or pulling mails, so it has to be either that Vodafone has old gsm equipment in my area or that it's misconfigured.
Over 3G the problem goes away, it happens on gsm but not just to the dash so I think I'm done blaming the htc.
i changed it to the new radio and i get perfect reception everywhere now and my last phone call sounded extra clear
BUMP FOR THIS THREAD. it deserves a sticky. I gotta test every radio out of this and see which one works flawlessly with WM6.5
EDIT: The HTC radio has been removed. I wanna use with my non T-Mo network
I have ookba's newest ROM to date on my phone, with the newest radio on there. Only problem is... it DRAINS my battery like no other. If its on standby, it goes down really fast, and I'm at 80% within an hour of zero use. Which radio version here would be good and work well with WM6.5? Which one has good service?
HTC_Phone said:
I have ookba's newest ROM to date on my phone, with the newest radio on there. Only problem is... it DRAINS my battery like no other. If its on standby, it goes down really fast, and I'm at 80% within an hour of zero use. Which radio version here would be good and work well with WM6.5? Which one has good service?
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You should be careful with this particular rom, ookba stated not so long ago that testing other radios has been not stable with his 6.5 rom.
gmaniac2008 said:
You should be careful with this particular rom, ookba stated not so long ago that testing other radios has been not stable with his 6.5 rom.
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Hmmm... Alright. Thank You for that. I'll wait and see if anyone else tests it for the 3VO rom.

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