Develop Bugs

Signal Indicator in XDA Live ROM

I have a quick question regarding the various indicators on Cingular 8525.
(U, E, G, 3G)
When I had the Cingular 2.06 ROM on the device I was getting either a G, an E or a 3G.
With XDA Live I am now getting a large U with a small E (by the signal strength indicator) in spots where I used to get just a G.
I did see a 3G indicator at my office in Manhattan but also alternated with the U indicator.
Just trying to figure out what system I'm seeing now as indicated by the symbols in this ROM.

if you have the phcanoverbmp.dll from the cingular 3.3 rom then this will fix your issue... actually i just made a cab real quick... try this!

shogunmark said:
if you have the phcanoverbmp.dll from the cingular 3.3 rom then this will fix your issue... actually i just made a cab real quick... try this!
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Thanks....installed CAB file but still have same issue with the indicators. Will mounting the extended ROM with the HTC tweak program help at all?

mikegoldnj said:
I have a quick question regarding the various indicators on Cingular 8525.
(U, E, G, 3G)
When I had the Cingular 2.06 ROM on the device I was getting either a G, an E or a 3G.
With XDA Live I am now getting a large U with a small E (by the signal strength indicator) in spots where I used to get just a G.
I did see a 3G indicator at my office in Manhattan but also alternated with the U indicator.
Just trying to figure out what system I'm seeing now as indicated by the symbols in this ROM.
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I'm having the same issue as well. My connection fluctuates just like that, on occasion. If I'm streaming something, my connection drops. It seems like a hand-off issue - but I'm really not sure.

Man, this is unbelievable. was just about to start this thread when I refreshed, and ta daa! here it allready is.
I did not have the cingular ROM, but the AKU 3.3 Test, and I did not have these issues on that ROM. I recently upgraded to Radio .134 though, could that have an effect?
What do you guys think this is? Is UMTMS available, but actual connection is edge? why would that be? Or is it just a spelling mistake in the reg somewhere?

My guess is the graphic for the indicator is being incorrectly seleced, the best test for which connection you are on is to do a speed test on bandwidthplace.com. Depending on what speed you actually get this will indicate the connection you are using.
EDIT:: According to wikipedia (yes i know....best i could find)
GPRS -> 30-40kbps
EDGE -> up to 236.8kbps
UMTS -> up to 384kbps
HSDPA -> (from my own experience) around the 1 to 1.5 mbps mark
(these might not be very accurate)

OK, so how will we be posting this problem in the XDA Live problems thread? as an incorrect graphic or something else?
Being in SAfrica with our slow GPRS coms, I'd say this is one of 2 things:
1. graphical error : U should be E, as it is actually an edge connection
2. something else, should be G, but for some reason shows U with E over signal bar ????

when i loaded the rom i was getting a U when i am actually on edge.. the phcanoverbmp.dll fixed this issue for me.. although this could have something to do with the ril.dll and rilgsm.dll ... out of curiosity which providers do you guys have?

shogunmark said:
when i loaded the rom i was getting a U when i am actually on edge.. the phcanoverbmp.dll fixed this issue for me.. although this could have something to do with the ril.dll and rilgsm.dll ... out of curiosity which providers do you guys have?
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I'm on Cingular in NJ.
where does the CAB file install the dll? Windows directory? I want to make sure it's where it should be.

yes, that is where it should be.. i made the cab automatically install it there... this should work on cing/att on any radio after 1.30... im not sure about anything pre 1.27...

mikegoldnj said:
I'm on Cingular in NJ.
where does the CAB file install the dll? Windows directory? I want to make sure it's where it should be.
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I'm in NYC on Cingular and have the same issues. The cab didn't fix it for me either. I'm running Radio 1.35 (what ever was included w/ 2.06) and the XDA Live ROM.

You wouldn't have radio 1.35 unless you installed that individually, its a trinity radio that has gps enable. If the last radio you did was included in the Cingular 2.06 ROM then you have 1.33 or 1.34. Though in the end I don't think this has an effect.
I have 2 main areas that I connect in, one is work (3G service) and home (Edge) on Cingular in Orlando. I will test this once I get home since that is the only place I get the big "U" and little "E" when connected.

what i am stating is that through my own personal testing it seems as if the pre1.30 radio's reported differently on the cingular roms than the post 1.30 radios did... and this seems to be the difference on how the ril.dll and rilgsm.dll gets its information from the radio.. now the last time i spoke to kyphur he injected the rill.dll and rilgsm.dll from the cingular aku3.3 release into the WMXL, however im not sure if it was included with the latest release... if he did not include those in the release then the phcanoverbmp.dll might not function correctly..

shogunmark said:
what i am stating is that through my own personal testing it seems as if the pre1.30 radio's reported differently on the cingular roms than the post 1.30 radios did... and this seems to be the difference on how the ril.dll and rilgsm.dll gets its information from the radio.. now the last time i spoke to kyphur he injected the rill.dll and rilgsm.dll from the cingular aku3.3 release into the WMXL, however im not sure if it was included with the latest release... if he did not include those in the release then the phcanoverbmp.dll might not function correctly..
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Got ya... Well I will look for it in the .2 release or deal with it in until the final release. Either way the work that is coming off of this site is amazing.

I don't like the way the indicator has changed either. On WM5 AKU 3.3 I got the following:
G = GPRS (worst signal - slow)
U = UTMS (3G area - upto about 360 kbps)
H = HSPDA (best signal area - upto about 900 kbps)
Now I've upgraded to XDA-Live I only ever get a G or a 3G. There's no way to tell if I'm going to get UTMS or HSPA speeds without testing. Before I could move around to find HSPDA easily.
This is on T-mobile UK. (Note: no "E" here. We don't get EDGE.)

shogunmark said:
yes, that is where it should be.. i made the cab automatically install it there... this should work on cing/att on any radio after 1.30... im not sure about anything pre 1.27...
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I did find the dll there.....I have radio 1.34 installed.
unfortunately not working for me. still have the problem.
I also see the following files: phcanhtc, phcanrc, phcanrc.dll.0409

mikegoldnj said:
I did find the dll there.....I have radio 1.34 installed.
unfortunately not working for me. still have the problem.
I also see the following files: phcanhtc, phcanrc, phcanrc.dll.0409
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those shouldnt make a difference.. however i can go ahead and make a cab that includes all three.. I will give warning though... one of those might cause the phone to not boot back up, SO make a back up before installing this as you might have to do a hard reset......

***WARNING***
This cab may cause your phone not to reboot.. MAKE A BACKUP before installing. IF your phone does not reboot then you will need to do a hard reset..

shogunmark said:
***WARNING***
This cab may cause your phone not to reboot.. MAKE A BACKUP before installing. IF your phone does not reboot then you will need to do a hard reset..
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I appreciate the CAB file...but.......I really don't want to risk this right now. I will wait for the next version of the ROM and see what happens......

shogunmark said:
***WARNING***
This cab may cause your phone not to reboot.. MAKE A BACKUP before installing. IF your phone does not reboot then you will need to do a hard reset..
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What changes are made with this cab?

Orange UK Only - What's Best Radio with WM6?

Could I please be so greedy as to have a Orange-UK only thread?
I am been reading and searching in earnest to see what other peoples experiences are with the various Radio ROMs. It seems most people are happy with 1.38.00.10, although seems to be a few instances of people sticking with older versions because of battery life/drop outs/data freezes. But I am unable to establish what other people are experiencing in the UK on Orange's network.
I am well familiar with the Radio ROM 1.38 + WM6 - good or bad? thread, but not many people in there commenting on Orange UK.
If you are on Orange UK, please can you share you experiences here?
My own experience has been thus.
Before upgrading to WM6, was on stock M3100, which had Radio 1.06 I beleive. This worked flawlessy with push email (Exch 2003), and never had any problems at all with it. This was also the case when I upgraded to LVSW 20070315, leaving Radio Rom as was.
Then I upgraded to Black 2.0 last week, and did the Radio to 1.34 with it. I didnt notice any problems at first, or rather didnt take much notice of not getting email notifications whilst at work. But on Friday I realised the Data connections were freezing.
I have tried going to 1.38.00.10, to 1.35, back to 1.06, even 1.27. Have also tried going back to LVSW 20070315, and am now on LVSW 20070408
I have narrowed it all down to the "common" problem in swicthing between GSM and 3G. At home I seem to be between 3 transmitters, and swicthing is common. Hence the problems I was having Friday.
The Excellent commmgrpro has helped here. Also Bandswitch.
Anyway, with Phone set to GSM only I have no problems. Odd thing is, driving to Sheffield and back yesterday (dont mention the football!!), with phoen set to Auto, I had no problems at all.
Yet at home, and at work, on auto the data connection freezes.
So.... Whats everyone else using on Orange?

i've been using rom 3.23.0.2 with radio 1.38.00.10 on a spv m3100. this device is been freezing like you described in your post, thing is, it's become unuseable since you have to reboot after the freeze and it happens almost continiously... driving me insane.
if anyone knows of a way how to get back wm5, i'd appreciate it!
freben

When I upgraded a while ago I was wondering the same thing. The only negatives re 1.38 at the time seemed to come from orange UK customers so I went for the 1.27 radio and it seems fine.
Have not yet stepped up further, and at the moment, see no reason to.
Especially as I can even get the H now and then. (If it aint broke...)

@Phil, I've "gone black" (v 2.0) with Radio 1.38.00.10 - only since Saturday, so it may be too early to tell. I've got a push email account with Mail2Web, which I don't tend to use that regularly - it's good for aggregating lots of mail stuff when I go away on business, but my data package ain't up to much (don't get me started ) so I only switch it on when required.
Since installing the new ROM/Radio/SPL, my M3100 seems to be much better than it was prior to the update. I've reinstalled all my apps (apart from PPCProfilesPRO - I'll do that tonight) and the phone seems really stable - no more random lockups when taking it off charge and only a couple of "slowdowns" when ending calls, or if Activesync'ing....can't really complain if I'm honest
I'll keep an eye on things - and maybe switch on the Exchange push email for a couple of days - and I'll post again if the situation changes.
Cheers,
Mark.
PS - Message for @freben; read MrVanx's guide on downgrading to WM5 - see THIS POST for details of how to find it.

MrVanx kindly provides a guide here: http://www.mrvanx.myzen.co.uk/hermes_guide/Downgrade/
Do please read very carefully before trying it

Yep...1.27 for me. No real radio problems to report.
Spent a couple of weeks with WMXL 2.0 and the last two weeks with Black 2.0. Both work fine with Orange with 3g (inc HSDPA) and voice. Direct push/web/pop email all fine.
One freeze this morning (first one in two weeks) but dont know if it was radio or os or an app?
Can;t compare with other radios but simply can say am happy with 1.27 (hence why I havent tried 1.38 etc)

Having no problems with set up in sig.
had the freezing with the stock set up.
Could/should we be more scientific here and use one of the many web2.0 survey sites to do a ROM/OS survey to find the right mix?
with a little effort we could then find the most reliable Radio ROM and view by Country/OS/carrier/etc.
just a suggestion..

Mark Crouch said:
but my data package ain't up to much (don't get me started ) so I only switch it on when required.
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@Mark,
try Orange World Browsing, 8ukp for unlimited data access 24/7
Give O a call on 150 and then the billing option, 4
Orange World Browsing is what is what the O rep told me it was listed as. I think one of the key points is the cost, it’s 6.81 exc VAT or 8 inc VAT, that’s the way to check you have the right package.
And you need to be on a 35ukp per month tarif or more to get it.
apologies for off topic post!!

(I was told it was Orange World Unlimited)

unwired4 said:
(I was told it was Orange World Unlimited)
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My bill confirms it as Orange World Browsing -although I too thought it was OWU.
Not sure if it is still so hard to get as it once was.

Sheep_Head - Well, I am definetely up for using a survey site - any recommendations?
I gave re-flashed my phone back to Black 2.0. Seems to be what most people are using here (IMHO). Have tried Radio 1.27, 1.38.00, and right back to 1.07.
With a totally clean device (i.e. straight after flashing), setting up the orangeinternet connection manually, the thing just wont connect to 3G. Only when I have Band set to GSM will it connect.
Jeez!
I am now in the process of going back to an Orange WM5 rom, to see if it makes any difference, (albeit the Romanian one, so will have to reset the internet connection).
Getting mildly frustrated now.

OK, I'm now back to Orange Radio version, and Orange WM5 -(Romanian!)
Entered Orange Internet settings. And have gained nothing. COnnects via GSM, but not via 3G.
Grrrrrr....
Spoke to Orange CS - no reported 3G problems in my area (well, what about me???).
What's the panel's opinion on sending a phone back to O with OliPro's bootloader on it? (well, and the Romanian Rom, but they prob wouldnt spot that).
I have insurance etc, so would get a replacement in advance....

philg2000 said:
OK, I'm now back to Orange Radio version, and Orange WM5 -(Romanian!)
Entered Orange Internet settings. And have gained nothing. COnnects via GSM, but not via 3G.
Grrrrrr....
Spoke to Orange CS - no reported 3G problems in my area (well, what about me???).
What's the panel's opinion on sending a phone back to O with OliPro's bootloader on it? (well, and the Romanian Rom, but they prob wouldnt spot that).
I have insurance etc, so would get a replacement in advance....
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dude as a last ditch attempt can you try out flashing LVSWs latest ROM?? Make sure your settings are good and post the results?? (it wont take long)

Hey guys - mega useful thread.
I 'thought' I had solved all of my woes and was feeling bloody smug with myself as I thought I had managed to keep the stupid questions down to a minimum. After reading this obviously not .
I am running Black v2.0 (happily) and the rest of the handset is as per my sig block but I have removed spb pocketbooks and replaced it with shell. I thought it was all working correctly but I am suffering the same connectivity issues as yourself (gprs and not 3G).
Also - and I have read the threads but still not working (was going to try again after a re-re-re build I still have no VM notifications.
Anything I can help with or test let me know and I will do what I can.
Bezman.

wberesford said:
Also - and I have read the threads but still not working (was going to try again after a re-re-re build I still have no VM notifications.
Bezman.
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I have just tested the voicemail fix again since my reinstall and the certificates cab plus installing the sms dll has always worked for me.
Are you having any specific issues with it?

CrazyC,
I am struggling with the whole copying over of the .dll file in the widows directory. Like I said I have done a search of the wiki on VM notifications etc and followed the directions. I have attempted using Activesync but keep getting a response saying that the destination is in use. I have tried directly on the handset (not expecting it to work) and it doesn't and finally I tried by using Total Commander. Still no joy. I will keep going with it though as I was thinking about building again from fresh anyways, and then attempting the vm notification from clean.
Gonna wait out for black v2.5 before I do that however.
Cheers for getting back to me though!
Bezman.

mrvanx said:
dude as a last ditch attempt can you try out flashing LVSWs latest ROM?? Make sure your settings are good and post the results?? (it wont take long)
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Hmmm... I dont think that will achieve anything. I have had the latest LVSW ROM on there a while bad, with the same problem.
I'd really like to hear from anyone who has returned a flashed M3100 to Orange.

wberesford said:
CrazyC,
I am struggling with the whole copying over of the .dll file in the widows directory. Like I said I have done a search of the wiki on VM notifications etc and followed the directions.
Bezman.
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The only way I have done this recently is using Resco File Explorer. You need to go into the Options menu to ensure you can see all files, then copy the sms_providers.dll into the \Windows directory. It warns you, but if you say yes it lets it happen. I have done this numerous times (have flashed my phone about 10 times recently!) without any problems!

wberesford said:
CrazyC,
I am struggling with the whole copying over of the .dll file in the widows directory. Like I said I have done a search of the wiki on VM notifications etc and followed the directions. I have attempted using Activesync but keep getting a response saying that the destination is in use. I have tried directly on the handset (not expecting it to work) and it doesn't and finally I tried by using Total Commander. Still no joy. I will keep going with it though as I was thinking about building again from fresh anyways, and then attempting the vm notification from clean.
Gonna wait out for black v2.5 before I do that however.
Cheers for getting back to me though!
Bezman.
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First few times I did this, it just copied OK with the file explorer. Most recently tho it gave me the same error - so I went to the zip file on my ppc and told it to extract directly to the windows folder, said yes to overwrite and it did. Maybe worth a try. (install the certs first incase it makes a difference.)

SMS Providers CAB
To make my life easier I put the sms_providers.dll from WM5 into a CAB. To install make sure you've installed the sdk certificates (http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35814&d=1174572298) first and then install this cab - a soft reset is requested at the end of installation and is required.
I've tested this on the latest LVSW ROM and it works perfectly, hopefully will overcome peoples issues with copying this file.

i have upgraded to LVSW(2007/04/23) RUU_Hermes_WWE_3.30.0.1 and now work like hell

2 weeks ago i have upgraded to lvsw latest rom release and is the worst release (sorry for that m8).... manny apps doesn't work.... and even the last one before this was much better :|.... and any1 can help me how can i get back to the original orange rom... like when i buyed from the storage? thank u....

Hey, this is bull**** - can u specify which apps etc? I am using LVSW 20070423 from the first day of release and no problem...

This ROM is pretty damned good - so slow operation is probably something you've got installed.
To go back to your original orange ROM (PRESUMABLY wm5) you first need a copy of the original ROM, then follow Mrvanx's guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299462
maddogydog said:
2 weeks ago i have upgraded to lvsw latest rom release and is the worst release (sorry for that m8).... manny apps doesn't work.... and even the last one before this was much better :|.... and any1 can help me how can i get back to the original orange rom... like when i buyed from the storage? thank u....
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MaRaHoX said:
Hey, this is bull**** - can u specify which apps etc? I am using LVSW 20070423 from the first day of release and no problem...
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lol... i know is bull****... prob is when i m tryin to call ... i hear 2 sounds ... and that`s it ... and office give me this error "Program Not Recognised" .. anyway ... now i am with the previous of lvsw rom

Problem during a call I supposed in GSM part, which is indipendent on LVSW's ROM (maybe other causes - 3rd party app, bad A2DP mod etc.) - but primary try new RADIO ROM.
Office works me well - I just try it before a few secs (immediately after HR) and its ok?
I am using phone daily for hard work and no problems, you mentioned.
Some unstability was caused by wrong Page Pool, but I suppose, that it is not your case.

LVSW ROM is very good, I like it compared to others. Try installing a new radio and try a hard reset or reflash it.

Remember LVSW bundles the Radio along with his ROMs, could you please tell us your Radio version??

mrvanx said:
Remember LVSW bundles the Radio along with his ROMs, could you please tell us your Radio version??
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@mrvanx, LVSW 20070423 is an OS-only distribution. He recommends that Hard-SPL-v7 and Radio 1.41.00.10 be installed beforehand (links provided). A deviation from his previous ROMs.
John

maddogydog said:
2 weeks ago i have upgraded to lvsw latest rom release and is the worst release (sorry for that m8).... manny apps doesn't work.... and even the last one before this was much better :|.... and any1 can help me how can i get back to the original orange rom... like when i buyed from the storage? thank u....
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What do you mean many apps doesn't work? All apps works on mine..IMO, LVSW's rom is the best. There must be something you didn't follow correctly or you installed some bull**** 3rd party apps. I am sorry if that offense you.

LSVW 423 is a great ROM - fast with all the bits I want and none of the bits I don't want, but I'm having issues with hanging on soft resets (about 10%) of the time as well as freezing and not able to resume from suspend. I have had these issues with most if not all the WM6 ROMs and can't figure it out.
Anyone else with similar issues?

Meanwhile orange have released a new WM5 AKU3.3 rom on their business site.

I've had no issues with LVSW 4/23 rom. I use the phone heavly during each day for the office and I never had experienced any issues. LVSV rom is the most stable in my opion. All apps are working as they should.
I only down graded my radio back to 1.40.30.00 cause of stability and the fact 1.41.xx.xx kept dropping my calls between 3G to Edge, not to mention weaker signal. Fact, 1.40.30.00 is I beleive the offical ATT radio release ATM (I might be wrong, something more official may be out).
Did you read the entire forum before flashing? As Johnburn mentioned, LVSW repackaged to OS only and given specific instructions to Hard-SPL-v7 and Radio before the OS only ROM due to issues on the his first post of the full package.

I think you're the only who has bad experience w/ LVSW release and you blamed it on the ROM. way to go.

khammo01 said:
LSVW 423 is a great ROM - fast with all the bits I want and none of the bits I don't want, but I'm having issues with hanging on soft resets (about 10%) of the time as well as freezing and not able to resume from suspend. I have had these issues with most if not all the WM6 ROMs and can't figure it out.
Anyone else with similar issues?
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yep exact same issue right here.
LOVE the roms, hate the fact that I keep freezing in suspend with all wm6 roms.
thought it was my phone till I flashed back to wm5, and its working perfectly again.

charbz said:
yep exact same issue right here.
LOVE the roms, hate the fact that I keep freezing in suspend with all wm6 roms.
thought it was my phone till I flashed back to wm5, and its working perfectly again.
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What do you have installed??? Also please note if installed programs are on the DEVICE or MEMORY CARD. What today items do you have??? And did you have cabs in the extended ROM??? All of these things will affect the device and could possibility cause it to lock up. Any whos I have no problems with WM6.

charbz said:
yep exact same issue right here.
LOVE the roms, hate the fact that I keep freezing in suspend with all wm6 roms.
thought it was my phone till I flashed back to wm5, and its working perfectly again.
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to fix the freezing go to:
start-> settings-> today-> items(tab)-> and set the today timeout to 12hr

stukes said:
What do you have installed??? Also please note if installed programs are on the DEVICE or MEMORY CARD. What today items do you have??? And did you have cabs in the extended ROM??? All of these things will affect the device and could possibility cause it to lock up. Any whos I have no problems with WM6.
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I always installed EVERYTHING on device memory. Nothing on storage card (even though it worked fine with Wm5 for anything other than Today apps).
I thought it was my applications so I went back to scratch. Even no apps installed and even with SD card removed, it fails to wake up from sleep if anything other than Exchange Activesync tried to use the radio while it was asleep.
Main culprits include IMAP mail sync and weather app syncing. You can verify this by setting sync interval to some ridiculously low value (every 5 minutes) and then watch a sitcom or something. It will be locked by the time it's over. (Hey, I just looked down and whaddya know, my phone is locked again).
There are some files laying around in extended ROM but They are not installed on hard reset. Are you saying they might be interfering nevertheless?
I hear rumors that LSVW 3/23 does not have this problem so I'm going to try that one last time. If I can't resolve it, I'm going back to WM5.

webpain said:
to fix the freezing go to:
start-> settings-> today-> items(tab)-> and set the today timeout to 12hr
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Hmm... seems an unlikely fix. Is this verified to work? What about just unchecking the Today timeout box altogether? I'll give it a try...
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I tried the Today timeout fix and it still locks up.

@khammo01
Good to see you have tried to isolate the problem. However you say that a fresh install also locks up. If this is true then the problem is deeper. Have you tried each Cooked ROM? I have and only by preference choose Black2.5. So far the only lock-up I have had came from a today plugin. WHich I should have put on the DEVICE instead of the CARD. At times the Active Sync appears to be sluggish but it is only right as it connects. Then all is well. Verify your download and try again.

stukes said:
@khammo01
Good to see you have tried to isolate the problem. However you say that a fresh install also locks up. If this is true then the problem is deeper. Have you tried each Cooked ROM? I have and only by preference choose Black2.5. So far the only lock-up I have had came from a today plugin. WHich I should have put on the DEVICE instead of the CARD. At times the Active Sync appears to be sluggish but it is only right as it connects. Then all is well. Verify your download and try again.
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I have tried LSVW, Black 2.0, 2.5, Dutty, Custel, you name it. They all have the sleep error.
If I have IMAP or anything enabled that uses the radio when the device is asleep, I get lockups.
Basically I cannot enable anything useful. I'm going to try LSVW 3/23 (pretty much the only ROM I haven't tried) and if that doesn't work, I'm going back to WM5.

Radio problems with LVSW/Radio ROM

I am using LVSW ROMs since 26/03 version, through 08/04 until present 19/05. I also have 1.41 version of Radio ROM. Since I've started using these ROMs, I'm noticing problems with radio stack.
For example, while I was driving a car across Europe (UK->PL) few weeks ago, GSM module hanged almost every time I was crossing a border between countries and phone was loosing signal from one country and had to register in another. All I could see was little [!] sign instead of signal bars, and restarting phone module and/or whole device could help it. Two days ago I was on M1 from Sheffield to London and I've noticed that GSM module just died - pressing green button did just nothing (despite I had full signal bars), and people trying to call me that time, were saying they had regular calling signal, like I was missing a call. Besides that whole device was working properly, with no problems whatsoever.
On the other hand, I have no problems with dropped calls or data sessions. Looks like it is happening mainly on the move, and phone has problems with registering with network properly.
So there is a question(s) - does anyone have similar problems with LVSW ROMs or 1.41 Radio ROM? Should I downgrade Radio ROM to 1.40 or 1.38? I have HardSPLv7 installed, so is it safe to just use this RUU - ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Hermes/HERM_Radio_Only_1.40.30.00_CustomRUU.rar ? I've been searching forums, but haven't found much information on *downgrading* Radio ROM in particular.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Its the radio rom causing you problems. I've also had problems with data connections in particular using ROM 1.40 and 1.41 (in Asia, on UMTS and EDGE networks).
Suggest you re-flash the pretty-much proven 1.38 ROM. You can find the download link from the Wiki.

radio downgrade
I used the 1.40 on black 2.5 and it was ok , then I upgraded to 1.41 radio and I had problems with the sound quality so I downgraded to 1.40 and the sound become back good
I have HardSPLv7 installed and I am on orange IL Israel
I used for downgrade CustomRUU and had no problems on the downgrade prosses
now i am using the last version of LVWS with radio 1.40 and it is working ok
hope this info help you
another remark :
try to install first the radion and on top of it os and not first os and then radio , i notice in a change of battery life in those 2 variants

Were you driving too fast for the phone to keep up with the radio transmitters passing by????
I'm also using LVSW 19-05 and Radio 1.41 but not having any significant issues unless a program runs at 100%, then the person trying to call me hangs up before the phone starts ringing!
Ciao Oggy.

It's not the LVSW ROM.....! It's the radio 1.41 And this radio was tuned for Cingular. I am on Cingular and i personally think that 1.40 is much much better. Read up on the two radio topics for more info on the two. So the bottom line is it's NOT LVSW at fault here. it's the 1.41 radio...

DAFTEK said:
It's not the LVSW ROM.....! It's the radio 1.41 And this radio was tuned for Cingular. I am on Cingular and i personally think that 1.40 is much much better. Read up on the two radio topics for more info on the two. So the bottom line is it's NOT LVSW at fault here. it's the 1.41 radio...
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Yeah, that's what I thought, but wasn't 100% sure either. I'm going to downgrade to 1.40 tonight and will observe any results...
Thanks to all for your inputs.

to be fair I think there is a problem with t-mobile uk at the moment with handovers, let me explain.......
I have a active data connection.........
phone is on 3G, everything fine
phone switches to 2G, data connection is still active, no problems
phone switches to 3G, data connection is broken and the radio reboots (scrolling dots ect.)
I can (and have) replicated this with EVERY radio from 1.27 to 1.41 (and I do mean EVERY radio)
I've also tried EVERY WM6 rom out there all do the same.
so I can only think its T-mobile playing up, its just strange that everything worked fine with WM5 as I remember (and no Im not flashing back to find out!)

Hi, I'm in the Netherlands. Just tested the 1.40 because 1.41 disconnected all the time. So far so good (5 calls later..). Downgrade went fine with the customRUU. Regards Bas

ratcom said:
to be fair I think there is a problem with t-mobile uk at the moment with handovers, let me explain.......
I have a active data connection.........
phone is on 3G, everything fine
phone switches to 2G, data connection is still active, no problems
phone switches to 3G, data connection is broken and the radio reboots (scrolling dots ect.)
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Interesting - it might be worth to check, but here in London it's actually hard to find a place where phone would switch itself 3G->2G. But anyway, I had problems not only on T-Mobile UK network, as I stated in first post, so I rather think it's Radio ROM related problem, more than network.

Sorry...I've been to positive. Right now only incoming calls come through. Outgoing is still a disaster. I'll downgrade to 1.38. Ill let you know if this works..

Currently in Thailand on DTAC, an EDGE network (all their GSM networks here have EDGE).
Radio 1.40: Voice calls were okay, didn't seem to have any problems, until I tried using data (gprs/edge). The data connection was completely unstable and unusable. Downgraded to radio 1.38...
Radio 1.38: Everything okay so far, EDGE data and voice calls.

Same boat!
Yup, same thing here with T-Mobile and the 3G/2G thingy.
Though I must admit 1.40 is pretty sucky anyway, 1.41 was worse.
Considering going back to 1.38, I've forgotten what it came with 1.2x or something, which, for its sins was pretty OK.
Oi! T-Mobile!! Sort it out before I head back to Orange!!!!
Actually, forget that rant, no point taking two steps backwards and starting to pay per MB again!!! LMAO

mccreath said:
Yup, same thing here with T-Mobile and the 3G/2G thingy.
Though I must admit 1.40 is pretty sucky anyway, 1.41 was worse.
Considering going back to 1.38, I've forgotten what it came with 1.2x or something, which, for its sins was pretty OK.
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One more thing, which just came to my mind - in the original T-Mobile's MDA Vario II Extended ROM there is a file called P_rilgsm_patch.CAB, which could be related to Radio. Maybe this is a key for these problems? I guess this patch is network-specific - well, I believe this patch is there for a reason...
Btw, I've just downgraded to 1.40...

Error message flashing Radio 1.40.30
Hope someone can help me with this. I'm encountering an error message when trying to flash to radio 1.40.30. I have Custel 2.5 installed on a JasJam with Radio 1.41 currently.
When I run the update RUU program and click the AutoDetect button, I get a message that says "Error, Unknown version! You should pick SSPL".
I have HardSPL7 installed, so my question is, is it safe to force SSPL? Is that what it is asking me to do?
Thanks.
Nevermind, I think I found the answer finally - it only took many days:
1. Select "2.10 new..."
2. Tick "Is it HARD Spl?"
And then run the update as per normal.

where is the link to downgrade the radio 1.38
thanks

naxos said:
where is the link to downgrade the radio 1.38
thanks
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You will find all the Radio roms available at this link:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms

thanks man

tried P_rilgsm_patch.CAB which as made abit of a mess Could some post rilgsm.dll from a LVSW rom plz as I managed to backup the wrong file

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tried P_rilgsm_patch.CAB which as made abit of a mess Could some post rilgsm.dll from a LVSW rom plz as I managed to backup the wrong file
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OK, but how to actually copy/send rilgsm.dll file?? Each time I have 'File cannot be copied' message, or such like... :-o
Btw, what happened, when you applied rilgsm patch?

i now get a "E" icon instead of "3G" and the radio seems slower handing over from 3G to 2G and back (thank god my stairs are 2G only!) I've sent you a PM on how to copy that file.

[The ALL-RADIO Excalibur Thread]

hey i was looking at the other forums and they all contain some kind of radio rom thread with many radio roms and its sticky'd so i decided i should make one also so everyone can find radio roms easily and flash them and see which they get the best performance out of!
some radios extracted with thanks to: da_mayhem
T-Mobile WM6 Radio - 4.1.13.34_02.79.90
HTC WM6 WWE ROM - 4.1.13.44_02.94.90
Rogers WM6 Radio - 4,1,13,47_02.98.90
New 4.1.13.51_03.07.90 radio
and finally some VOX radio's I converted over to the Excalibur/Dash
Vox Radio 4.1.13.47_02.98.90
Vox Radio 4.1.13.37_02.83.90
Vox Radio 4.1.13.47_02.94.90
Vox Radio 4.1.13.60_03.18.90
Make sure you have the USPL loaded into your device (Thanks to jockyw2001)
**How to Flash**
1. download the USPL file
2. Run USPL.bat and follow the instructions
3. once your screen turns blank and the USPL.bat application finishes open up the radio rom file you would like to flash and run the RomUpdateUtility.exe file
4. Report your results so others can see!!
***Flash at your own risk and ask questions or read if your uncertain as to what to do***

well ill be the first one to post my results. out of all the radios i believe the 02.98.90 radio gives me the best service in my area
battery life not bad either
im in Woodland Hills CA and using tmobile service

i can say out of the 3 official ones ive used only the rogers one had a decent reception in my area....
I am intrigued with the vox ones... ill have to load one of them up this week and test it.

I was wondering... is any of these radios known to drop calls?
I'll explain myself. I usually call someone and some people will hang up and call back. The fact is that these kind of calls won't usually come through, as they receive the message from the network operator that the terminal is powered off or out of coverage (rough translation).
If they call back once again, this time the call comes in.
Any ideas on what's causing this behaviour?
A similar problem happens when I'm on the data connection chatting with palringo or browsing the web. If someone calls me in these moments the call won't come through.

Bump!
Any ideas on this issue?
Which Radio ROM would you suggest I downgrade to given that now I have 4.1.13.51_03.07.90?

Just wondering, what these radio roms did, and do they affect you having wm6.1/6/5?

Were can I go to see what radio version I have installed on my dash?

stickman said:
Bump!
Any ideas on this issue?
Which Radio ROM would you suggest I downgrade to given that now I have 4.1.13.51_03.07.90?
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yeah im wondering that to since i get alot of dropped calls now

Well, I think I've narrowed the problem to a provider issue.
I'm on a unlimited data plan and have palringo and exchange server setup so I'm always online.
So, I get the above mentioned behaviour, but it just doesn't happen with the dash. My Nokia E65 does the very same thing, call won't come through sometimes if I'm idling on palringo or pulling mails, so it has to be either that Vodafone has old gsm equipment in my area or that it's misconfigured.
Over 3G the problem goes away, it happens on gsm but not just to the dash so I think I'm done blaming the htc.

i changed it to the new radio and i get perfect reception everywhere now and my last phone call sounded extra clear

BUMP FOR THIS THREAD. it deserves a sticky. I gotta test every radio out of this and see which one works flawlessly with WM6.5
EDIT: The HTC radio has been removed. I wanna use with my non T-Mo network

I have ookba's newest ROM to date on my phone, with the newest radio on there. Only problem is... it DRAINS my battery like no other. If its on standby, it goes down really fast, and I'm at 80% within an hour of zero use. Which radio version here would be good and work well with WM6.5? Which one has good service?

HTC_Phone said:
I have ookba's newest ROM to date on my phone, with the newest radio on there. Only problem is... it DRAINS my battery like no other. If its on standby, it goes down really fast, and I'm at 80% within an hour of zero use. Which radio version here would be good and work well with WM6.5? Which one has good service?
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You should be careful with this particular rom, ookba stated not so long ago that testing other radios has been not stable with his 6.5 rom.

gmaniac2008 said:
You should be careful with this particular rom, ookba stated not so long ago that testing other radios has been not stable with his 6.5 rom.
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Hmmm... Alright. Thank You for that. I'll wait and see if anyone else tests it for the 3VO rom.