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Ladies & Gentlemans !
Today We Want To Choose Best ROM For HTC Universal !
List Of ROM's :
1. Helmi_c 1.1
2. PDAVIET 2.0.6 PRO (Fixed)
3. Midget v0.1 Vanilla Crossbow Rom (Based on Helmi's Unreleased Rom)
4. UNI 2.00.05 WWE HHVN
ٌPlease Choose The Correct Version Without Any Hyperbole & Prejudice !!!
Thanks A Lot !!!
(We Hope To Choose Best One For All People)
Pdaviet 2.0.4
I Tried All Roms And Definitly Padviet 2.0.4 Works Fine. I Tried 2.0.6 But Had Connections Failure So I Got Back To 2.0.4
Please Choose The Correct Version Without Any Hyperbole & Prejudice
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haha. you are a dreamer.
ivorh said:
haha. you are a dreamer.
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Why You Say This ?! Is My Sentence Wrong ?
No, your english is fine (although strange in the use of capitalization), I think he means you will not get a fair and accurate representation of which ROM is the best.
From a technical standpoint, the Helmi and Indra releases are the best. (Indra's was based on an early Helmi image also)
But!
Because nearly everyone running WM6 here is a newbie, and newbies love new things, you will invariably see a high percentage leaning towards the PDAVIET ROM images.
PDAVIET ROM images are nothing more than rebuilds of existing images pandering to a community that is too lazy to install icons, registry changes, or localisation applications themselves, so rather than release CAB files, they just build a new ROM and watch everyone update.
Total madness.
I see your point, AlanJC, and i'm agree with you, but not totally.
I use HEIMI Rom (actually the old 3.5), and i consider that people have to use and publicize the material made from the real "artist" and not the one that are only remaskered and selled as original.
But for us newbies, it is not so pratical and easy to catch around the forum the various programs, cabs, registry elements and so on to proceed from a vanilla to a multiflavour rom.. even reinstall a new rom is a jump into the void for not-rom-programmers.. you know..
I think that best work is to make a sticky and frequently adjourned post in which there are listed the various extension (programs, icons, etc) with the links that are fine to be appliable at HEIMI or others Vanilla roms, and 2-3 line short explaination for the installation. It is an easy work for you experts, and a great solution for us dummies.
(sorry for my english)
Idum
Dear Friends , Please Take Part In This Topic & Poll !
i believe Helmi's rom is not a true WM6 as it is lacking some of the features even compared to PDAvient
rikram said:
i believe Helmi's rom is not a true WM6 as it is lacking some of the features even compared to PDAvient
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that cant be justified mate...
the rest of the needed apps are given as .cab files
cheers
wm6 and communication
I would like to understand which is the meaning of communications in WM6. Now you see for mail you should have the possibility to select what communication configuration use, but only appears "internet" with independence of you having more.
Some explanation on this matter should be great...
prefer AKU 3.5 by Helmi.
i believe Helmi's rom is not a true WM6 as it is lacking some of the features even compared to PDAvient
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Don't be a plank. Anyway I did a detailed analysis of the differences between the two roms in one of the other threads.
rikram said:
i believe Helmi's rom is not a true WM6 as it is lacking some of the features even compared to PDAvient
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Definitely a plank!
In my experience, the only "features" it's lacking compared to PDAViet ROMs are third party apps
Hi, anyone know the difference between the 2 rom in its initial release?
Thanks
They're both working beta versions, both have bugs, maybe not the same ones but still bugs.
Unless you want to bugtest the ROMs, leave it for a week or so for the next versions to come out.
These are not ROMS you want to flash if you're looking for a stable replacement for WM5, therefore if you're asking which is best, the answer is, neither, at the moment.
If you want to know the differences, read through the threads for each one and see what problems people are having with them.
well, there's a lot of differences here and there.
Mun's rom is a higher version of WM6, and includes some stuff (office 2007 compatibility) that LVSW's doesn't. Of course LVSW's has some tools and apps that Mun's doesn't have. Haha.. It's pretty tough to compare them.
I will say this, I found Mun's ROM to be a bit faster in terms of bringing up new programs/windows. I dunno if that has anything to do with his customization or just the version of WM6. However right now a lot of people (including me) are having trouble using activesync with this version. I switched to LVSW and am syncing fine now.
There's some other issues here and there regarding VOIP and stuff that separate them...
hope it helps. As always, for comprehensive info, you need to go read the posts..
Well my opinion is that this thread is pointless, try thrm both and you will find out which one fits your needs, thats all, it is not a hard task
so if active sync works in one and not in the other how about some combined work?
How about waiting until a stable release comes out. I mean wtf, it has been a little over a day and people already want the perfect ROM.
Tweaking a ROM takes a lot of effort. Its not always that easy to locate problems and even if you do, they are not always easy to fix.
Give it a few weeks or wait for an official ROM if you can't deal with a few bugs here and there.
Who is complaining? I think you are misreading peoples intentions here by criticising the ROMs. It is in essence part of the testing process that you give feedback and also desire to solve the issues.
Noone is expecting the perfect ROM, but if you dont want the perfect the ROM then what is the point in developing?
I didn't quote anyone so I refered to the previous post by jpless.
Maybe I misread it but he made it sound like it was as easy as putting feature A from ROM1 into ROM2.
Its possible for some parts but could introduce a lot more new bugs.
I'm sure mun_rus and LVSW are well aware of each others Roms, it just takes time to evolve it to the state WM5 is in today. Especially since we don't have an official WM6 Rom.
Sorry for my harsh tone earlier. In time, we'll have a perfect WM6 Rom.
I take them both.
Mun's ROM so Quickly
LVSW was able to sync
Thanks a lot both MUN/LVSW .
@ZakMcRofl
Thanx for comments. You are absolutly right.
Just wait for next release. I have to test new rom before and should say that:
-AS sync - OK
-GPS camera - ok
-etc
I have no chance t otry videocall, so don't know anything about it
I'm waiting for the second betas to come out, and I think I'll jump on Mr. Mun_Rus's rom because, well, I sent him money, so I might as well use the results of that, right?
In the name of healthy competition, I declare that I find mUn's ROM the better of the two after careful evaluation. So im going to go back to mUn's ROM for now. Faster and less buggy camera-wise. Maybe you are tired of this now, but thanks again to both you and lvsw for your work.
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I didn't quote anyone so I refered to the previous post by jpless.
Maybe I misread it but he made it sound like it was as easy as putting feature A from ROM1 into ROM2.
Its possible for some parts but could introduce a lot more new bugs.
I'm sure mun_rus and LVSW are well aware of each others Roms, it just takes time to evolve it to the state WM5 is in today. Especially since we don't have an official WM6 Rom.
Sorry for my harsh tone earlier. In time, we'll have a perfect WM6 Rom.
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You didn't quote but referred? Anywho I know it's not as easy as it sounds, just thought that maybe by comparing the bugs in either one we could maybe help solve some of them or something Just trying to help here...
Usually its considered bad style to quote the person right before you since it takes up board space and is the default reference point anyways.
The problem with the bugs is that you can't always pinpoint them to a single file or module, otherwise what you say would be possible (replace the file from other ROM).
A Rom error can come from a file, a registry entry or combinations of the former. Obviously having a comparison base can help but its obvious that LVSW and mun_rus already use it plenty - check their WM5 AKU 3.5.x Roms for example.
MUn is Best
In all the roms I've tried, Mun was the very first I tried, and although I don't use it any more, It was the most stable, IE I didn't soft reset it unless an installation wanted me to, it never crashed on me.
dude... the last post on this thread was in 2007...
happy new year
xplode said:
Well my opinion is that this thread is pointless, try thrm both and you will find out which one fits your needs, thats all, it is not a hard task
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yes it is a pointless thread... play with them to find which is best for you
To me the best version is windows CE,do some research and install it,it'll make your xda rock or maybe brick
Now that some time has passed, and Crossbow has gained a bit of ground, as well as some reviews and testers, based on your experiences, would you recommend Crossbow to the general public?
Also, a personal question, if I would like to use Messenger to share files as well, and a faster device, would you recommend crossbow to me?
Thanx in advance for your responses!
Crossbow on Universal is highly recommended.
At least, I can't see any reason to NOT recommend it over WM5.
Stable, fast, better features. Give it a go!
V
But there is no working video call in WM6 yet.
This can be solved, but unfortunately no developers have 3G in their area to test it
I have 3G here, I can test, but no software to test.
WM6 on the Universal? I wouldn't recommend it (yet). Most ROMs have a buggy wifi, email (resolved on some), mms (resolved on some), etc.
And as mentioned, no video call.
But if you don't need video call and wifi... Go ahead with Crossbow. You might wanna try Midget's or Ivan's latest.
Everything is working fine on crossbow, but, IMHO, the only glitch is the issues with WIFI like you cannot connect to wpa networks
Second issue is buggy video call
general impression positive. Things that I'm missing:
-wifi (wpa)
-phone keypad (still would like to be able text with one hand from time to time).
however I don't miss it much enough to get my previous ROM (not yet anyway).
I believe this are only temporary problems. Big thanks for such a good work.
I don't recommend it!
-First of all: NO VIDEO CALL.
-WIFI problem!!!!
-Quick rings FREEZE your phone.
-Outlook problems
So this week-end i'll downgrade to WM5..
WM6 it's VERY powerfull.. But we don't have a REAL working Universal ROM.
..That's a shame..
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So this week-end i'll downgrade to WM5..
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Everytime I install a new WM6 rom, then, after 0.5h playing with it, I m always back to my trusty WM5's ROM(see my sig)
i have the videocall option for 2 years on my contract.
since then i have 5-6 hours of free videocall that i never used because most people don't have videocall, and because it is much easier to speak on a BT handsfree than to keep the 300g monster in my hand, pointed to my face while walking on the street.
so, i don't realy understand the need of videocall.
but i need wifi very much.
now i am using the original ROM that camed with my spv m5000.
should i upgrade to a newer WM5, or should i stay with the original one untill the release of a WM6 with wifi support?
Hewlit said:
should i stay with the original one untill the release of a WM6 with wifi support?
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I think you have to ask this question to ROM cookers..
MY PERSONAL opinion is that we have to wait.
SO: don't lose your time....
HELP
how to get back to wm 5 from wm 6
i was told never to publish someone's rom after modified, but it is sick to do everything again from alpha and many testers involved only for a little improvement i can make to all Trinity Lovers.
Well , this rom is the one have tiny changes from Karmba_a 6.2(F*cking Great Rom it is), i believe Karmba_a did 99% of the job, i only did a very tiny job to modify it. if you like this rom, please THANK Karmba_a and ask him to make a donate link. :-D
Karmba_a 6.2 En is a great rom, touch flo works wonderfull, no obvious bug, including programes are just alright.
here is the update list made by me from Karmba_a 6.2 Rom
1, Build in the old-good-xip, E-mail accounts/passwords/connect/BT Parternership... won't lost anymore i believe. (thx ausdim)
PS: 14/12/2007 Tested in last 10 days, reset/drain battery/power cut/system hang and reset for hundreds of times, my Gmail account and GPRS connections are still there, so it is very sure that the problem is 100% fixed.
2, change the sounds,3rd screen, themes, to be wm6 original(also can be change to "black theme" in settings), fix the theme bug as well.
3, Update the connect wizard to 1.0.30(from bepe's rom),it works better than 1.0.29 after comparetion.
4, fix a Cpl's name(HSDPA Switch), relocate some shortcuts to the reasonable place.
5, no auto-clean at everytime reset(it clean too hard), and removed regedit and the little shutdown program(cause it doesn't really work)
6, many no important things, like: lowing down the GPS speeding Alarm volume(it was too too loud), Remove Big Startmenu(ugly in my opinion),del some rubbish reg,replace a better HTC Black Tsk, little reg tune in "TouchFlo System",. maybe one or two little changes i can't remember, but i did everything for reasons.
7, Made in China (does't mean it support Chinese, this is a English rom. Maybe it means this rom is cheap,no donate ha ha)
PS: i just find out i have a will to make the appearence of this rom(Karmba_a 6.2 En) close to HTC original one....
in case you like this rom and want to say thanks to me, Please make sure you have already thanked Karmba_a first!!
**Apoc reported A2DP have some bugs, dont know how bad it is and if it can be recovered. think before using this if you have A2DP handset.
Link Updating.....in 30 minutes.
http://rapidshare.com/files/74231668/Karmba_a_6.2_.zip.html
this is the first link.
the RUU I tested in Vista, it should work under XP, if it dont, please replace rom into your own RUU.
I just saw Karmba_a finnal released,but i wont do on that anymore, no more spare weekend....
ScottiMa said:
I can't unzip these files on my PC, could you please check the files again.
Thank you for your post anyway! And I'm looking forward your own cooked ROM!
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Please try to rename the files in this way: "****01.zip" to "****.zip.01" then most unzip software can automatically locate next files.
And sorry i dont think i'll cook my own rom although i really want to. Canon can produce good camare, but Panasonic can't, cause it need time to upgrate, debug and learn from feedback to make something perfect. This the best chefs in our forum already did. But right now i even dont have time to earn enough money to feed myself and for my tuition fee....For some reasons i'll lead a hard life in next few years. no time, no time.. :-(
I always use my limited spare time to do the most valuable thing. Cook a rom from start and debug for weeks, too huge job for me.
dta1974 said:
For those of you with issues downloading from rapidshare or unzipping,try this link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?4mjsi160dmt
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Thank u very much my friend! This is the second link!
hey dude.. so nice to see a post by chinese guy here..
waiting for your rom!
BUT, BUT,
please use a faster ftp server for downloading..
thanks dude..
where are you from in china now?
hi my friend,i took university in Harbin City in Heilongjiang Prov, my home is LianYunGang City in JiangSu Prov. where i havn't being back for many years.
i am physically stay in Australia now, get the trinity from "3 Telecom" 4 month ago. i have been doing SmartPhone system for years,newly start working on PPC. i am old member in pdafans.com i guess you know there.
it is interesting to see that no one knows Trinity have GPS function in AUS....
i am uploading the rom to Rapidshare and 4shared.com at the same time, slower than i think. may take me more than 30 minutes.i dont believe you can get a fast speed from there, but you can use download tools( like Thunder,xunlei) to download the rom from 4shared.com(but rapidshare you can't), take it easy.
i have a question for you: seems Trinity have wifi, which is forbiden in China and illegel ,go against Chinese law, then where is your Trinity comes from?
Thanks a lot
Karmba_a
You are the best
i like tuner and, harbin is my hometown
PS: i found karmba 6.2 f*** sd card very often. it's not compatible with 4gb mini sdhc at all.
correct me if this is the only case happened on my trinity.
megaupload please
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Thanks a lot
Karmba_a
You are the best
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Thanks a lot
2.80kb/s
This is the Chinese Support Cab! If you are in China and insist to use English version rom, this is the one you must have.
unzip this 4 files together , you 'll gonna get a cab file,
after install that, the mobile will get no trouble on Chinese software, Chinese website visiting, and Regional setting can be set to People Republic of Chine.
this one is carefully built by me, upgrade many times to get rid of all the bugs that other chinese support solutions use to have.
kalechen said:
This is the Chinese Support Cab! If you are in China and insist to use English version rom, this is the one you must have.
unzip this 4 files together , you 'll gonna get a cab file,
after install that, the mobile will get no trouble on Chinese software, Chinese website visiting, and Regional setting can be set to People Republic of Chine.
this one is carefully built by me, upgrade many times to get rid of all the bugs that other chinese support solutions use to have.
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I can't unzip these files on my PC, could you please check the files again.
Thank you for your post anyway! And I'm looking forward your own cooked ROM!
For those of you with issues downloading from rapidshare or unzipping,try this link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?4mjsi160dmt
thanks mate! thanks!
karmba is great almost perfect except for the slow....i mean very slow response time to closing applications and no matter how much ive tried i cant get it streaming something which the Mary roms does effortlessly
tindo said:
karmba is great almost perfect except for the slow....i mean very slow response time to closing applications and no matter how much ive tried i cant get it streaming something which the Mary roms does effortlessly
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that is because, Karmba's rom default setting is when you click the "X", it will completely terminate the applications.which some other's rom just minimize the software(faster)
if you have a good habit to clean your memory on time, go to the settings to change it.
thx.
MMS freezing...
Info:
(ROM Karmba_a 6.2 EN/PMV)
(MMS Composer Version 4.2.8.1 with Blacklist tab)
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Hi,
First, sorry my bad English.
I'm having a problem with the MMS in this ROM.
Almost always when I'll send (or receive) an MMS with audio (recorded), it freezes my P3600.
Any suggestion or patch??
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This is the only problem I'm having with this ROM (which is the best I have tried).
Tks.
M.A.S. said:
Info:
(ROM Karmba_a 6.2 EN/PMV)
(MMS Composer Version 4.2.8.1 with Blacklist tab)
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Hi,
First, sorry my bad English.
I'm having a problem with the MMS in this ROM.
Almost always when I'll send (or receive) an MMS with audio (recorded), it freezes my P3600.
Any suggestion or patch??
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This is the only problem I'm having with this ROM (which is the best I have tried).
Tks.
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Sorry mate debug is too hard for me cos i dont really have souces of this rom, and modify a "optimized rom" is very difficult. the only way to trace this problem is install other Arcsoft MMS programms and find out which one have this bug fixed. i dont have time to do this sorry. then compare the files from "fixd Cab" and the rom, replace the better files to solve. i can do a upgrate for u if you can try out the "fixed MMS" cab.
i know this is a good rom , thank you very much!
and i believe the account disappare problem is perfectly solved, thanks Karmba_a and ausdim.
kalechen said:
i can do a upgrate for u if you can try out the "fixed MMS" cab.
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Yes, if it's possible. Thanks for your help.
hey man
did you update the link also? or you didn't upload the updated ROM?
Amazing you're using it for weeks without issues, I tried it out yesterday, to begin with, A2DP is seriously ****ed up, even with the A2DP Fix, the player itself behaves oddly when an A2DP connection is made, the 'play head' skips back and forth( you can see the time counter go from 0:23 to 0:22 and then 0:23 again), seriously lagged/skipping audio, I was going to make a screencast of it but the device hard-reseted itself after It semi-froze and I power cycled it using the power button(5 secs).
Speedy nevertheless, the dialer is ugly and smart dialing options don't open as with the original Karmba_a.
Apoc said:
Amazing you're using it for weeks without issues, I tried it out yesterday, to begin with, A2DP is seriously ****ed up, even with the A2DP Fix, the player itself behaves oddly when an A2DP connection is made, the 'play head' skips back and forth( you can see the time counter go from 0:23 to 0:22 and then 0:23 again), seriously lagged/skipping audio, I was going to make a screencast of it but the device hard-reseted itself after It semi-froze and I power cycled it using the power button(5 secs).
Speedy nevertheless, the dialer is ugly and smart dialing options don't open as with the original Karmba_a.
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wow,A2DP, i dont have a A2DP handset. Anyone knows what is the reason happen on that?
i did not change the system of Karmba_a's rom, so most of the bugs should be kept.
and i am sorry for i dont gonna debug the rom unless some one can tell me which file cause what bug, or the bug is too serious. most likely i wont do any upgrate in future, no enough time, i am really tired everyday.
well, i 'll mark the A2DP problem in my post, thank u about this. merry xmas!
Gents,
i upgraded my Imate JASJAM to WM6.1. how can i make a video call??
help me please.
UP. Please Help.
Get the video call dialers. There's more than few floating around. That should work.
NO!!!! it's not working!!! i have posted about this many many time.
none of the roms is working.
yes it is not working. please help us gents. we need to find a way for the video calls.
hellokittyr said:
NO!!!! it's not working!!! i have posted about this many many time.
none of the roms is working.
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please be a little bit less demanding and have patience. People here are doing everything in their own free time on their own resources and paying for it themselves. If you're not satisfied, go back to a factoryROM.
Nobody twisted your arm to upgrade to 6.1. If you don't like it, go back to a stock ROM.
The demanding attitude wanting everyone to do everything for you is a good reason why alot of ROM cooks have stopped cooking.
Demanding help without reading squat in any of the threads first, automatically means you join the Far Que instead of the Help you.
Learn from this!!!!
hellokittyr said:
NO!!!! it's not working!!! i have posted about this many many time.
none of the roms is working.
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My Video call is working very nice in WM6.1 pays ROM. Pays ROM is also very fast.
Thanks Pay!!
HTC TyTN
ROM: WM6.1 Pro Pay's v3.00
Radio: 1.54.30.10
SPL: 2.10 Olipro
SanDisk 2 GB