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mUn vs LVSW WM6 rom

Hi, anyone know the difference between the 2 rom in its initial release?
Thanks

They're both working beta versions, both have bugs, maybe not the same ones but still bugs.
Unless you want to bugtest the ROMs, leave it for a week or so for the next versions to come out.
These are not ROMS you want to flash if you're looking for a stable replacement for WM5, therefore if you're asking which is best, the answer is, neither, at the moment.
If you want to know the differences, read through the threads for each one and see what problems people are having with them.

well, there's a lot of differences here and there.
Mun's rom is a higher version of WM6, and includes some stuff (office 2007 compatibility) that LVSW's doesn't. Of course LVSW's has some tools and apps that Mun's doesn't have. Haha.. It's pretty tough to compare them.
I will say this, I found Mun's ROM to be a bit faster in terms of bringing up new programs/windows. I dunno if that has anything to do with his customization or just the version of WM6. However right now a lot of people (including me) are having trouble using activesync with this version. I switched to LVSW and am syncing fine now.
There's some other issues here and there regarding VOIP and stuff that separate them...
hope it helps. As always, for comprehensive info, you need to go read the posts..

Well my opinion is that this thread is pointless, try thrm both and you will find out which one fits your needs, thats all, it is not a hard task

so if active sync works in one and not in the other how about some combined work?

How about waiting until a stable release comes out. I mean wtf, it has been a little over a day and people already want the perfect ROM.
Tweaking a ROM takes a lot of effort. Its not always that easy to locate problems and even if you do, they are not always easy to fix.
Give it a few weeks or wait for an official ROM if you can't deal with a few bugs here and there.

Who is complaining? I think you are misreading peoples intentions here by criticising the ROMs. It is in essence part of the testing process that you give feedback and also desire to solve the issues.
Noone is expecting the perfect ROM, but if you dont want the perfect the ROM then what is the point in developing?

I didn't quote anyone so I refered to the previous post by jpless.
Maybe I misread it but he made it sound like it was as easy as putting feature A from ROM1 into ROM2.
Its possible for some parts but could introduce a lot more new bugs.
I'm sure mun_rus and LVSW are well aware of each others Roms, it just takes time to evolve it to the state WM5 is in today. Especially since we don't have an official WM6 Rom.
Sorry for my harsh tone earlier. In time, we'll have a perfect WM6 Rom.

I take them both.
Mun's ROM so Quickly
LVSW was able to sync
Thanks a lot both MUN/LVSW .

@ZakMcRofl
Thanx for comments. You are absolutly right.
Just wait for next release. I have to test new rom before and should say that:
-AS sync - OK
-GPS camera - ok
-etc
I have no chance t otry videocall, so don't know anything about it

I'm waiting for the second betas to come out, and I think I'll jump on Mr. Mun_Rus's rom because, well, I sent him money, so I might as well use the results of that, right?

In the name of healthy competition, I declare that I find mUn's ROM the better of the two after careful evaluation. So im going to go back to mUn's ROM for now. Faster and less buggy camera-wise. Maybe you are tired of this now, but thanks again to both you and lvsw for your work.

ZakMcRofl said:
I didn't quote anyone so I refered to the previous post by jpless.
Maybe I misread it but he made it sound like it was as easy as putting feature A from ROM1 into ROM2.
Its possible for some parts but could introduce a lot more new bugs.
I'm sure mun_rus and LVSW are well aware of each others Roms, it just takes time to evolve it to the state WM5 is in today. Especially since we don't have an official WM6 Rom.
Sorry for my harsh tone earlier. In time, we'll have a perfect WM6 Rom.
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You didn't quote but referred? Anywho I know it's not as easy as it sounds, just thought that maybe by comparing the bugs in either one we could maybe help solve some of them or something Just trying to help here...

Usually its considered bad style to quote the person right before you since it takes up board space and is the default reference point anyways.
The problem with the bugs is that you can't always pinpoint them to a single file or module, otherwise what you say would be possible (replace the file from other ROM).
A Rom error can come from a file, a registry entry or combinations of the former. Obviously having a comparison base can help but its obvious that LVSW and mun_rus already use it plenty - check their WM5 AKU 3.5.x Roms for example.

MUn is Best
In all the roms I've tried, Mun was the very first I tried, and although I don't use it any more, It was the most stable, IE I didn't soft reset it unless an installation wanted me to, it never crashed on me.

dude... the last post on this thread was in 2007...
happy new year

xplode said:
Well my opinion is that this thread is pointless, try thrm both and you will find out which one fits your needs, thats all, it is not a hard task
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yes it is a pointless thread... play with them to find which is best for you

To me the best version is windows CE,do some research and install it,it'll make your xda rock or maybe brick

Brand new to tytn, some advice needed pls..

Wass up guys and gals,
I've been happily using Imate Jasjar/cingular 8125 for the longest time but i just got the softbank version of HTC tytn. I must say that it feels very good using the tytn because of its size (specially if you are moving over from jasjar)
Anyways i upgraded my tytn to Schaps WM6 WWE version 3.54C but i am confused about the fact that my wizard still runs alot faster and stable then the tytn. i even get better signal on my wizard where as my tytn only gets 2 or 3 bars. I am also not able to play some vids in tcpmp even after trying this http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/htc-hermes/10022-updated-hermes-tcpmp-v0-81-unofficial-hybrid-media-player-all-codecs-here.html
Guys tytn is suppose to be an upgrade from wizard but it seems to me that wizard is a more stable device???
Let me know what you guys think about this and also are there any other ROMS better then the 1 i am currently running?? if so then pls do let me know u guys.
Thanks alot in advance
I'll be waiting for all your replies....
Farhan

Anyone??
Anyone ??
come on u guys, i would like to hear yr side of the story
Cheers

do you own a wizard with UMTS\HSDPA ?
I'm jocking , in many things you are right....

Well, I have not had the same experience. It is possible that some added apps you are running are causing conflicts. I would make sure you have the latest versin of whatever ROM you are using.
I have great stability with Black Satin and I hear that many are very good - Schaps (as you are using), VP3G, Sleuth (sorry if I missed any).
Try your rom with few other apps for a while and see if stability and responsiveness improve. Also, you probably do not want to judge reception based on bars, but rather by performance. Bars are just drawn on there - not really a strong indicator of reception quality.
Good luck.

Thanks alot for your replies u guys,
The only 3rd party software iam running is TCPMP and thats it nothing else.
I guess at this point my only and biggest issue is that iam not able to play some vids on tcpmp that played just fine on my jasjar
for example i have a 19 mb mpeg-4 clip that played just fine my on JJ but on my tytn it will play for about 5-10 secs and the gets stuck for 1-2 secs and so on...
I'll be a very happy man if there is a fix for this
Cheers

Anyone

Have you tried the ATIFix from Sleuth, take a look at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297717
And try to get a copy of CorePlayer 1.1, better performance than TMPCP...

farhanali_ said:
Anyone ??
come on u guys, i would like to hear yr side of the story
Cheers
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I ran several different builds on my Wizard and am now running Schap's on my Hermes (have also run v3gp). In my experience the Hermes definitely runs faster.

[08 11 2007] (Vanilla) Debranded WM5 AKU3.3 T-Mob rom

Sorry for the removal. Please read reason for editing.

good work, I'll test soon
Thanks

Well done! everything working as it should, no need to tweak gprs and previous splash is a nice plus! Thanks again.

Very Good ROM! Thanks

I just installed the ROM on an O2 XDA. So far it works thanks!
I used the trick to soft restart at the countdown to prevent all the guff being installed.
The main reason for this upgrade was the device using the latest official O2 ROM from I think 2006 the bluetooth does not work properly with my jag hands-free. But with this ROM it seems to work so thanks very much. At last I can use my phone in the car.
The exact version I flashed was using the CID bypassed version, copied in the 3 files from the official Tmobile then replaced one of them with the vanilla install. This I gathered was the thing to do after much forum reading.
I have a few of questions:
How do I select any of the cabs that I skipped installing and install them? Where are they? How do I know what they are and if they are any use?
My old ROM based on AKU2(.2?) had a program called task manager which I used to see what was running and end it (usually the media player). Has this been replaced in this version and if so what by and if not where can I get it?

Re:
PsiDoc
Nice idea this one!!!
I m downloading right now in order to try it.
Forgot to mention..., thanks for the streaming ext rom this will save some manuall configuration.
Regards
Z£Y$

Phone skin debrand T-mobile?

@Z£Y$
Let me know how you get on with this mate. Particularly have a look at the MMS settings with the 3UK rom. It went a bit weird with me on the rom install.
eneva78 said:
Phone skin debrand T-mobile?
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It says in the 1st post.....
It's basically the latest (September 2007) AKU3.3 T-Mobile rom but with all the horrid looking branding ripped out and the god awful dialer pad reskinned with O2's much nicer one.
Is that a bit clearer for you?
Psi

Congrats on the new ROM PSIdoc!

Old story back again with this rom: green light flashing but device off line, no incoming or outgoing calls untill soft reset and randomly same problem faced again.

it'a so good that i actually want someone to come up with bug report.i dont know about the green light flashing.i dont have them?

@tailazoom
What radio version are you using mate? I know that 1.18 has some known crashing problems with WM5. The original rom was bundled with 1.17. Perhaps downgrading to 1.15 may sort it out as I know that os rock solid. I am using said bundled 1.17 and have so far only had 1 problem with a GPRS failure to connect. I couldn't pinpoint it 100% to the radio, so I am waiting for it to happen again.
Just my own thoughts.
Psi

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@Z£Y$
Let me know how you get on with this mate. Particularly have a look at the MMS settings with the 3UK rom. It went a bit weird with me on the rom install.
It says in the 1st post.....
It's basically the latest (September 2007) AKU3.3 T-Mobile rom but with all the horrid looking branding ripped out and the god awful dialer pad reskinned with O2's much nicer one.
Is that a bit clearer for you?
Psi
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ops!!!!!!!!!!!

PsiDOC said:
@tailazoom
What radio version are you using mate? I know that 1.18 has some known crashing problems with WM5. The original rom was bundled with 1.17. Perhaps downgrading to 1.15 may sort it out as I know that os rock solid. I am using said bundled 1.17 and have so far only had 1 problem with a GPRS failure to connect. I couldn't pinpoint it 100% to the radio, so I am waiting for it to happen again.
Just my own thoughts.
Psi
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Thanks PsiDOC for answering. I'm using radio 1.17 and with the official t-mobile wwe aku3.3 i have no problems except:
1) iexplorer unable to connect unless i use a program to tweak gprs settings
2) unable to force manually GSM band

what can i do with this file?how can i install it on my qtek 9000?

This looks as though it could be just what I need, rather than going to WM6What was taken out from this vanilla version compared to the full flavoured one.
Will you be doing a full flavoured version with your tweaks to get rid of the awfull branding stuff. Regards John

JohnWB,
The vanilla version is as the rom came from the OEM, in this case T-Mobile, with nothing added into it. The only things changed in the rom is all the T-Mobile branding is removed and the Dialler Skin replaced, purely beus it was painful on the eyes!
A fully loaded version means that extra apps have been added to the rom that saves you the trouble and the storage space. This can be pretty much anything with tweaking of the rom.
I am currently testing this rom with a few apps added in the rom, including:
Opera 8 web Browser,
Ps Shut XP. (WM Reboot Tool)
Registry Editor
Contacts Backup
SMS Message Backup
Notepad
Mobile Office 2007 (Word, Exel, Powerpoint & One Note) - Still Buggy Though
And a few others
Am also thinking about reskinning the entire rom with a "The Matrix" style theme as the default. Maybe I have said too much here....
Sadly am working 10 hours a day, 7 days a week at the mo as we have a big job on where I work, so not much time to progress it at the mo but I am doing a bit where I can.
Psi

Thanks for the info Psi, just what I needed to know, John

i haven't Rapid
i haven't Rapidshare account plsss upload again in this site plsss

can someone give me dialpad skin to enable vidcall please?

official htc 3.54 ger rom problems

hy all. after using this rom for a month now i ran into several probs.
1) when i lock my tytn, and someone calls me, i cant answer the call, then i cant unlock the phone because the unlock in the lower left corner is replaced by the lost call notification. the first half of the month i have this problem not very often, but now i have it on every call. so i loose every call, the SR, then unlock, then call back. (really cool this problem)
2) bluetooth worked fine, but now i cant enable it without doing a SR before enabling it.
3) omg, it is so slow after a month of use! i SR nearly every day, i delete temps with cleartemp, but its so slow now. for example, when i write a new message, and then switch to landscape, i think i have to wait about 20-30 secs, before its rendered. and the same after sending sms and switching back to portrait home screen.
4) sometimes it looks like everything is ok, but when i try to tab something a realise, that my tytn is completly dead. (i have bought a second mobile phone and use it, when the tytn is dead. and what i want to say o this bug: nice piece of software ms! i feel like an alpha tester for ms! but i had to pay for it. )
all these bugs appeared after a few weeks!
installed software:
pocketrar (newest)
htc task manager 1.51
htc music plugin 1.0
adobe reader 2
cleartemp (newest)
emil andersson pocket sudoku
i hope some ms devs read this thread, think about it and learn something for the future.
regards chief

Why not giving one of mine a try (look in my signature)??
Most that use them are excited of the speed
Olioaglio

Chiefcooker said:
... i hope some ms devs read this thread, think about it and learn something for the future.
regards chief
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I am running the same T-Mobile Germany ROM and have no such issues! It looks to me like your device is running out of memory! How much memory is still available on your device? Where did you install your apps - phone or card?
Try to run your device without the TASK MANAGER for a while, maybe that is what is eating your memory ...

Junner2003 said:
I am running the same T-Mobile Germany ROM and have no such issues! It looks to me like your device is running out of memory! How much memory is still available on your device? Where did you install your apps - phone or card?
Try to run your device without the TASK MANAGER for a while, maybe that is what is eating your memory ...
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hi, i have installed the apps in unlocked extrom.
and i dont have the tmobile version, i have the original htc german version.

Olioaglio said:
Why not giving one of mine a try (look in my signature)??
Most that use them are excited of the speed
Olioaglio
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i have used schaps 3.54 ger rom a long time, and i had many probs with bluetooth too with this rom, and your rom is based on it, but i think i'll try the superstoragerom. looks really good. gut gemacht! der inhalt von pro home sieht ja cool aus.
mfg chief

Karmba_a 6.2 EN [Personnal Modified Version !!!!]

i was told never to publish someone's rom after modified, but it is sick to do everything again from alpha and many testers involved only for a little improvement i can make to all Trinity Lovers.
Well , this rom is the one have tiny changes from Karmba_a 6.2(F*cking Great Rom it is), i believe Karmba_a did 99% of the job, i only did a very tiny job to modify it. if you like this rom, please THANK Karmba_a and ask him to make a donate link. :-D
Karmba_a 6.2 En is a great rom, touch flo works wonderfull, no obvious bug, including programes are just alright.
here is the update list made by me from Karmba_a 6.2 Rom
1, Build in the old-good-xip, E-mail accounts/passwords/connect/BT Parternership... won't lost anymore i believe. (thx ausdim)
PS: 14/12/2007 Tested in last 10 days, reset/drain battery/power cut/system hang and reset for hundreds of times, my Gmail account and GPRS connections are still there, so it is very sure that the problem is 100% fixed.
2, change the sounds,3rd screen, themes, to be wm6 original(also can be change to "black theme" in settings), fix the theme bug as well.
3, Update the connect wizard to 1.0.30(from bepe's rom),it works better than 1.0.29 after comparetion.
4, fix a Cpl's name(HSDPA Switch), relocate some shortcuts to the reasonable place.
5, no auto-clean at everytime reset(it clean too hard), and removed regedit and the little shutdown program(cause it doesn't really work)
6, many no important things, like: lowing down the GPS speeding Alarm volume(it was too too loud), Remove Big Startmenu(ugly in my opinion),del some rubbish reg,replace a better HTC Black Tsk, little reg tune in "TouchFlo System",. maybe one or two little changes i can't remember, but i did everything for reasons.
7, Made in China (does't mean it support Chinese, this is a English rom. Maybe it means this rom is cheap,no donate ha ha)
PS: i just find out i have a will to make the appearence of this rom(Karmba_a 6.2 En) close to HTC original one....
in case you like this rom and want to say thanks to me, Please make sure you have already thanked Karmba_a first!!
**Apoc reported A2DP have some bugs, dont know how bad it is and if it can be recovered. think before using this if you have A2DP handset.
Link Updating.....in 30 minutes.
http://rapidshare.com/files/74231668/Karmba_a_6.2_.zip.html
this is the first link.
the RUU I tested in Vista, it should work under XP, if it dont, please replace rom into your own RUU.
I just saw Karmba_a finnal released,but i wont do on that anymore, no more spare weekend....
ScottiMa said:
I can't unzip these files on my PC, could you please check the files again.
Thank you for your post anyway! And I'm looking forward your own cooked ROM!
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Please try to rename the files in this way: "****01.zip" to "****.zip.01" then most unzip software can automatically locate next files.
And sorry i dont think i'll cook my own rom although i really want to. Canon can produce good camare, but Panasonic can't, cause it need time to upgrate, debug and learn from feedback to make something perfect. This the best chefs in our forum already did. But right now i even dont have time to earn enough money to feed myself and for my tuition fee....For some reasons i'll lead a hard life in next few years. no time, no time.. :-(
I always use my limited spare time to do the most valuable thing. Cook a rom from start and debug for weeks, too huge job for me.
dta1974 said:
For those of you with issues downloading from rapidshare or unzipping,try this link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?4mjsi160dmt
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Thank u very much my friend! This is the second link!

hey dude.. so nice to see a post by chinese guy here..
waiting for your rom!
BUT, BUT,
please use a faster ftp server for downloading..
thanks dude..
where are you from in china now?

hi my friend,i took university in Harbin City in Heilongjiang Prov, my home is LianYunGang City in JiangSu Prov. where i havn't being back for many years.
i am physically stay in Australia now, get the trinity from "3 Telecom" 4 month ago. i have been doing SmartPhone system for years,newly start working on PPC. i am old member in pdafans.com i guess you know there.
it is interesting to see that no one knows Trinity have GPS function in AUS....
i am uploading the rom to Rapidshare and 4shared.com at the same time, slower than i think. may take me more than 30 minutes.i dont believe you can get a fast speed from there, but you can use download tools( like Thunder,xunlei) to download the rom from 4shared.com(but rapidshare you can't), take it easy.
i have a question for you: seems Trinity have wifi, which is forbiden in China and illegel ,go against Chinese law, then where is your Trinity comes from?

Thanks a lot
Karmba_a
You are the best ​

i like tuner and, harbin is my hometown
PS: i found karmba 6.2 f*** sd card very often. it's not compatible with 4gb mini sdhc at all.
correct me if this is the only case happened on my trinity.

megaupload please

Abu RaGHaD said:
Thanks a lot
Karmba_a
You are the best ​
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Thanks a lot

2.80kb/s

This is the Chinese Support Cab! If you are in China and insist to use English version rom, this is the one you must have.
unzip this 4 files together , you 'll gonna get a cab file,
after install that, the mobile will get no trouble on Chinese software, Chinese website visiting, and Regional setting can be set to People Republic of Chine.
this one is carefully built by me, upgrade many times to get rid of all the bugs that other chinese support solutions use to have.

kalechen said:
This is the Chinese Support Cab! If you are in China and insist to use English version rom, this is the one you must have.
unzip this 4 files together , you 'll gonna get a cab file,
after install that, the mobile will get no trouble on Chinese software, Chinese website visiting, and Regional setting can be set to People Republic of Chine.
this one is carefully built by me, upgrade many times to get rid of all the bugs that other chinese support solutions use to have.
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I can't unzip these files on my PC, could you please check the files again.
Thank you for your post anyway! And I'm looking forward your own cooked ROM!

For those of you with issues downloading from rapidshare or unzipping,try this link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?4mjsi160dmt

thanks mate! thanks!

karmba is great almost perfect except for the slow....i mean very slow response time to closing applications and no matter how much ive tried i cant get it streaming something which the Mary roms does effortlessly

tindo said:
karmba is great almost perfect except for the slow....i mean very slow response time to closing applications and no matter how much ive tried i cant get it streaming something which the Mary roms does effortlessly
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that is because, Karmba's rom default setting is when you click the "X", it will completely terminate the applications.which some other's rom just minimize the software(faster)
if you have a good habit to clean your memory on time, go to the settings to change it.
thx.

MMS freezing...
Info:
(ROM Karmba_a 6.2 EN/PMV)
(MMS Composer Version 4.2.8.1 with Blacklist tab)
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Hi,
First, sorry my bad English.
I'm having a problem with the MMS in this ROM.
Almost always when I'll send (or receive) an MMS with audio (recorded), it freezes my P3600.
Any suggestion or patch??
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This is the only problem I'm having with this ROM (which is the best I have tried).
Tks.

M.A.S. said:
Info:
(ROM Karmba_a 6.2 EN/PMV)
(MMS Composer Version 4.2.8.1 with Blacklist tab)
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Hi,
First, sorry my bad English.
I'm having a problem with the MMS in this ROM.
Almost always when I'll send (or receive) an MMS with audio (recorded), it freezes my P3600.
Any suggestion or patch??
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This is the only problem I'm having with this ROM (which is the best I have tried).
Tks.
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Sorry mate debug is too hard for me cos i dont really have souces of this rom, and modify a "optimized rom" is very difficult. the only way to trace this problem is install other Arcsoft MMS programms and find out which one have this bug fixed. i dont have time to do this sorry. then compare the files from "fixd Cab" and the rom, replace the better files to solve. i can do a upgrate for u if you can try out the "fixed MMS" cab.
i know this is a good rom , thank you very much!
and i believe the account disappare problem is perfectly solved, thanks Karmba_a and ausdim.

kalechen said:
i can do a upgrate for u if you can try out the "fixed MMS" cab.
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Yes, if it's possible. Thanks for your help.

hey man
did you update the link also? or you didn't upload the updated ROM?

Amazing you're using it for weeks without issues, I tried it out yesterday, to begin with, A2DP is seriously ****ed up, even with the A2DP Fix, the player itself behaves oddly when an A2DP connection is made, the 'play head' skips back and forth( you can see the time counter go from 0:23 to 0:22 and then 0:23 again), seriously lagged/skipping audio, I was going to make a screencast of it but the device hard-reseted itself after It semi-froze and I power cycled it using the power button(5 secs).
Speedy nevertheless, the dialer is ugly and smart dialing options don't open as with the original Karmba_a.

Apoc said:
Amazing you're using it for weeks without issues, I tried it out yesterday, to begin with, A2DP is seriously ****ed up, even with the A2DP Fix, the player itself behaves oddly when an A2DP connection is made, the 'play head' skips back and forth( you can see the time counter go from 0:23 to 0:22 and then 0:23 again), seriously lagged/skipping audio, I was going to make a screencast of it but the device hard-reseted itself after It semi-froze and I power cycled it using the power button(5 secs).
Speedy nevertheless, the dialer is ugly and smart dialing options don't open as with the original Karmba_a.
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wow,A2DP, i dont have a A2DP handset. Anyone knows what is the reason happen on that?
i did not change the system of Karmba_a's rom, so most of the bugs should be kept.
and i am sorry for i dont gonna debug the rom unless some one can tell me which file cause what bug, or the bug is too serious. most likely i wont do any upgrate in future, no enough time, i am really tired everyday.
well, i 'll mark the A2DP problem in my post, thank u about this. merry xmas!