Choosing Best ROM For Upgrading - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading

Ladies & Gentlemans !
Today We Want To Choose Best ROM For HTC Universal !
List Of ROM's :
1. Helmi_c 1.1
2. PDAVIET 2.0.6 PRO (Fixed)
3. Midget v0.1 Vanilla Crossbow Rom (Based on Helmi's Unreleased Rom)
4. UNI 2.00.05 WWE HHVN
ٌPlease Choose The Correct Version Without Any Hyperbole & Prejudice !!!
Thanks A Lot !!!
(We Hope To Choose Best One For All People)

Pdaviet 2.0.4
I Tried All Roms And Definitly Padviet 2.0.4 Works Fine. I Tried 2.0.6 But Had Connections Failure So I Got Back To 2.0.4

Please Choose The Correct Version Without Any Hyperbole & Prejudice
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haha. you are a dreamer.

ivorh said:
haha. you are a dreamer.
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Why You Say This ?! Is My Sentence Wrong ?

No, your english is fine (although strange in the use of capitalization), I think he means you will not get a fair and accurate representation of which ROM is the best.
From a technical standpoint, the Helmi and Indra releases are the best. (Indra's was based on an early Helmi image also)
But!
Because nearly everyone running WM6 here is a newbie, and newbies love new things, you will invariably see a high percentage leaning towards the PDAVIET ROM images.
PDAVIET ROM images are nothing more than rebuilds of existing images pandering to a community that is too lazy to install icons, registry changes, or localisation applications themselves, so rather than release CAB files, they just build a new ROM and watch everyone update.
Total madness.

I see your point, AlanJC, and i'm agree with you, but not totally.
I use HEIMI Rom (actually the old 3.5), and i consider that people have to use and publicize the material made from the real "artist" and not the one that are only remaskered and selled as original.
But for us newbies, it is not so pratical and easy to catch around the forum the various programs, cabs, registry elements and so on to proceed from a vanilla to a multiflavour rom.. even reinstall a new rom is a jump into the void for not-rom-programmers.. you know..
I think that best work is to make a sticky and frequently adjourned post in which there are listed the various extension (programs, icons, etc) with the links that are fine to be appliable at HEIMI or others Vanilla roms, and 2-3 line short explaination for the installation. It is an easy work for you experts, and a great solution for us dummies.
(sorry for my english)
Idum

Dear Friends , Please Take Part In This Topic & Poll !

i believe Helmi's rom is not a true WM6 as it is lacking some of the features even compared to PDAvient

rikram said:
i believe Helmi's rom is not a true WM6 as it is lacking some of the features even compared to PDAvient
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that cant be justified mate...
the rest of the needed apps are given as .cab files
cheers

wm6 and communication
I would like to understand which is the meaning of communications in WM6. Now you see for mail you should have the possibility to select what communication configuration use, but only appears "internet" with independence of you having more.
Some explanation on this matter should be great...

prefer AKU 3.5 by Helmi.

i believe Helmi's rom is not a true WM6 as it is lacking some of the features even compared to PDAvient
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Don't be a plank. Anyway I did a detailed analysis of the differences between the two roms in one of the other threads.

rikram said:
i believe Helmi's rom is not a true WM6 as it is lacking some of the features even compared to PDAvient
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Definitely a plank!
In my experience, the only "features" it's lacking compared to PDAViet ROMs are third party apps

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WM6 - 2.00.04 PRO PV Version OUT

Final release of 2.00.04 PDAVIET version,
you can find about here http://www.pdaviet.net/showthread.php?t=3183&page=12
Link for download: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9XG5EP2D
or http://rapidshare.com/files/12826782/ROM_v2.00.04_PDAVIET_UNI_PRO.rar
pass: www.pdaviet.net
Hey guys, we have a rom-by-day.. I don't have the time to reinstall programs that I have to reflash
realogic said:
Final release of 2.00.04 PDAVIET version,
you can find about here http://www.pdaviet.net/showthread.php?t=3183&page=12
Link for download: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9XG5EP2D
pass: www.pdaviet.net
Hey guys, we have a rom-by-day.. I don't have the time to reinstall programs that I have to reflash
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Is this newer than 2.00.04 PDAVIET_Test ROM ?
Yes, is the "final" one, called PRO (as read on their forum)
Don't know about differences
realogic said:
Yes, is the "final" one, called PRO (as read on their forum)
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do you have the pass to unizip the ROM ?
EDIT: go it, thanx!
realogic said:
Final release of 2.00.04 PDAVIET version,
you can find about here http://www.pdaviet.net/showthread.php?t=3183&page=12
Link for download: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9XG5EP2D
pass: www.pdaviet.net
Hey guys, we have a rom-by-day.. I don't have the time to reinstall programs that I have to reflash
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OK - that COOL but can some one explain me - HOW to read and understand that language ot PDAVIET - Please folks - when you release some information in diferent language try to translate to english so every one can read it.
Please read
Ok apologies for cross posting.... but can you obsessive flashers please read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1110678&postcount=50
and keep in mind the bit towards the end about bad images.
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Disclaimer... ok just thought I'd better add. I'm not trying to say anyone has put out a bad image. or that anyone is trying to. before anyone thinks I'm claiming that.
Work,on this version,the videocall?
And in the ExtRom that applications are found?
ivorh said:
Disclaimer... ok just thought I'd better add. I'm not trying to say anyone has put out a bad image. or that anyone is trying to. before anyone thinks I'm claiming that.
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Well so far you are the only one who wrote that and was "kind" enough to repost it again. I believe each person here has the brain to make their own judgement. If they like PDAViet ROM and flash "a lot" so be it. There is no point of trying to convince the others that PDAViet ROM is not good up to your standard. Your "high" standard might not be the same as the others.
It would be best if the developers of these PDAVIET images posted here, then people could ask them questions, and they could respond to bugs etc.
They can carry on posting images on their forum, but I think it's important to realise these roms are posted on a non-english forum, and many people here are flashing it blindly, not knowing if there are things to watch out for, patches or registry imports that should be run, and so on.
I just think it's dangerous the amound of hype surrounding these images when nobody is posting any proper change logs, or able to answer what is changing from one rom to the next.
It's unlikely anything bad will happen, but at the moment, someone saying "wow this is so fast" seems to be enough in people's mind to warrant a reflash.
It's all getting a bit silly imo.
AlanJC said:
It would be best if the developers of these PDAVIET images posted here, then people could ask them questions, and they could respond to bugs etc.
They can carry on posting images on their forum, but I think it's important to realise these roms are posted on a non-english forum, and many people here are flashing it blindly, not knowing if there are things to watch out for, patches or registry imports that should be run, and so on.
I just think it's dangerous the amound of hype surrounding these images when nobody is posting any proper change logs, or able to answer what is changing from one rom to the next.
It's unlikely anything bad will happen, but at the moment, someone saying "wow this is so fast" seems to be enough in people's mind to warrant a reflash.
It's all getting a bit silly imo.
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I'm absolutely AGREE with you !!!
Hi imisim,
and that's exactly why I wrote the disclaimer, I obviously didn't write it clearly enough, sorry! I'm saying I don't have a problem with any of these people posting the ROMS (although it would be nice if they produced changelogs saying what they were improving), I don't believe there's any problem with any of the ones they have posted!
The thing I'm trying to warn of was that when people are posting random rapidshare and other file upload service links "HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY ARE???" For example I haven't seen any of these recent ROM images posted with an MD5 sum that can be checked for validity.
Sorry if I didn't make my point clear!
I believe each person here has the brain to make their own judgement.
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and I fear you may be too optimistic there!
Cheers and best wishes,
Ivor.
AlanJC said:
It would be best if the developers of these PDAVIET images posted here, then people could ask them questions, and they could respond to bugs etc.
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I agree with you however you need to keep in mind that the PDAViet ROM are leased in their site which is Vietnamese.
The change log is there but in Vietnamese.
The problem is not PDA Viet because their ROM is published for their members and most of them are Vietnamese. The link to their ROM as being posted by the xda-developers members and unfortunately most don't read Vietnamese
BatteryStatus issue....
.....after having issues with reseting my device, I realised that BatteryStatus was causing the issue, forcing me to hard reset my device twice....now the device resets nicely.....but can anyone recommend a good small battery indicator, or even a taskbar one?
Thanks
I don't speak vietnamese too, I posted that link just because that ROM is the most stable one I've flashed, and trusth me, I've flashed all!
BTW, I agree with who says that way is not the most secure.
outfocus: I use iLauncher3, but is not free
I have to agree. I'm interested in trying one of the WM6 ROMs on my wizard/xda mini s, but with the frantic whirlwind of posts, follow-ups, and the almost random naming conventions, the whole BBS seems to have become a frenzy and it's now left me at a complete loss as to which, if any, WM6 ROMs I should have a go with.
Add to that a huge amount of "people should just read the threads" posts, combined with maybe 20 topics, each of 20+ pages of crap to read through, and I'm now probably too nervous about bricking my device to try. For example, do I flash the orwell1984 one, and if so, do I need to roll in the WWE stuff, or will it just work? Should I go for the pdaviet ROMs, or not - and if so which is the best?
Is it any wonder people are left scratching their heads?
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although it would be nice if they produced changelogs saying what they were improving.
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The change log is on their site and here is a rough translation
- ROM v2.00.04 PV was based on ROM v2.00.03 PV
- Aggressive Reg editing.
- Fix RAM leaked and device hung.
- More available RAM (above 24,25Mb) and guarantee faster
- Some additional improvement and add-on.
just one question: is this ROM same as the ROM in this post(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290865)?
If not, what the difference between them?
Thx.
Pro Differences / Preliminary Review
Sorry Alan but this is the best ROM out there, BUT you need to understand how to use this - let me begin: (in no particular order)
To use ozvga you must load midgets version of ozvga for crossbow.
The following applications WILL HANG YOUR UNIVERSAL:
SPB backup (BUT YOU CAN USE SUNNYSOFT V4)
SPB Pocket Plus (sorry!)
Now you don't need anymore the CB dialer skin, microsoft voice command 1.6 or new menu for wm5 because THEY ARE ALL IN THE ROM! (But don't restore your old WM 5 new menu settings file or you will hang the device!)
This little Vietnamese beauty also comes with a new version of XP shutdown, an amazing smart dialer, remote desktop and streaming media player!
The dfferences in the PRO version are:
The addition of the remote desktop & streaming media player
Added to settings is a customer feedback form and in connections is another icon to the communications manager.
Voice commander is mapped to the record button
Other things YOU NEED TO KNOW:
Soft resetting WM 6 is sometimes a two stage affair. This DOES NOT appear to be a bug but rather an (early) characteristic. If you need to reset 3 times or more the application you just loaded is not compatable.
Activesync 4.5 beta has embedded smarts for WM 6! When you synchronise for the first time it will ask you suddenly if you want to maintain wireless conectivity while docked to active sync.
There is also a newer bluetooth stack & system tray icon. If you use TomTom for example you no longer need to map the incoming port. The option has been removed anyway.
To summarize - this version of WM6 is blisteringly snappy, full of great features BUT NEW... IT IS NOT GOING TO WORK THE SAME AS WM5 AND NOT USE ALL THE SAME APPLICATIONS. But the overall result is fantastic in my opinion.
Regards,
Simon Jacobs
imisim said:
The change log is on their site and here is a rough translation
- ROM v2.00.04 PV was based on ROM v2.00.03 PV
- Aggressive Reg editing.
- Fix RAM leaked and device hung.
- More available RAM (above 24,25Mb) and guarantee faster
- Some additional improvement and add-on.
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RAM Leaked problem is most important than others, I think.

WM6 ROM without bugs?

Hi,
Like in the topic, I'am looking for WM6 ROM which is not worse than official wm6 (Dopod810 I believe). What I mean is that every time (unless I missed something) when a new cooked ROM is released everyone is so excited. Few minutes later new posts appear in which people report problems with: battery, activesync, missed phonecalls etc etc
I would like to have a blank WM6 with some basic apps like office, mms... and that's all. The rest will be installed by myself. And the most important stable.
I want to avoid situation when I install wm6, my favorite software, setup everything just to turn out that something doesn't work as it should be.
Hi Arti -
Have you considered cooking your own ROM?
I´m sure you are gonna get a lot of help with that kind of attitude,cook your own one and you make it your way and the most important "bug-free"
dta1974 said:
I´m sure you are gonna get a lot of help with that kind of attitude,cook your own one and you make it your way and the most important "bug-free"
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Big lol to this!!!
I dont want to say that ppl here do a bad job...but not even microsoft people manage to do this (bug free) what makes u think that he will?
Just kiding..
Cheers
Thanks for all replies, I respect all cookers work. It's obvious that each software has bugs that's absolutely normal.
I just wanted to ask for Lite version (or even very lite) of WM6 rom.
arti121 said:
Thanks for all replies, I respect all cookers work. It's obvious that each software has bugs that's absolutely normal.
I just wanted to ask for Lite version (or even very lite) of WM6 rom.
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How lite do you want it, you can take a fairly standard rom and rip all the crap out like the media stream player, office, dumb images and useless wav files etc and have a fast stable ROM that leaves you heaps of free space to add all those unstable bits. So just hunt around for a lite version or try doing it yourself(and thats part of the fun having such a great toy like the dopod 810), you don't need to be that brave because of hard spl's and kitchens, etc that have been created by the guys around these forums, to help protect against wrecking your phone.
Try hypercore kitchen its pretty friendly and works well for trinitys.
Would be nice if there was one joint effort to take the very latest WM6 build and run it through testing and fixing all the basic functionality (battery life, voice/video calling, battery life, sms, emails, wifi, drivers.....ect.....) specific to Trinity.
This way anyone who wants to make their own unique rom with customized additions would have a base stable build on the Trinity to work with and if something was fixed in the base rom, it would be easier for anyone cooking a rom of this build to implement that fix. This would make for more stable releases all the way around.
Hi Shoey -
Um, so which dialer is best? Which contact manager? Which task manager? Which radio? You have to install at least one of each for the phone to be operable.
The dialers, contact managers, etc. tend to be based on personal preference, so good luck getting everyone to agree. Heck, there's a lot of disagreement on which build of WM6 is the best!
The radio versions in some cases have to be matched to the software being used by the specific user's telecom company, which is why some people have problems using some of the radios. If the telecom isn't using the newest software in their cell towers, then the newest radio ROMs might not work well.
Also, in what language do you write this "base" ROM? So far I've seen English, Spanish, French and German on this board.
You have to realize, this board is a collection of individiuals who share an interest in modifying the bejeezus out of their phones. Tryng to get some committee structure set up to set standards is probably a lost cause. Kinda like herding cats.
This is one situation where people have gone to absurd lengths to make it easy for you (se Bepe's kitchen and Hypercore kitchen, I'm amazed at the time they've put in to help the rest of us, and appreciative), but I don't think anyone's going to build your own special ROM for you. If you want something specific, I think you're going to have to build it yourself.
Good luck!
landshark: I'm talking about stabalizing basic functionality with the Trinity hardware. Get the standard things working first, fix all known issues to get WM6 working properly. After that people can base their preferences on something more stable. What's the point of releasing 3 roms with 3 different dialiers which all have different bugs not dependant on the dialer but the rom it's installed on top of.
As for which language to base it off of, doesn't matter, once you have a base rom, people can localize it to make base roms for each language. Would make it easier for someone to release their rom under different languages.
Really what I'm getting at is joint effort to get a stable WM6 build working on the Trinity would be better than 20 buggy roms. Not to take anything away from anyone releasing WM6 roms, there wouldn't be any WM6 if not for them.
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landshark: I'm talking about stabalizing basic functionality with the Trinity hardware. Get the standard things working first, fix all known issues to get WM6 working properly. After that people can base their preferences on something more stable. What's the point of releasing 3 roms with 3 different dialiers which all have different bugs not dependant on the dialer but the rom it's installed on top of.
As for which language to base it off of, doesn't matter, once you have a base rom, people can localize it to make base roms for each language. Would make it easier for someone to release their rom under different languages.
Really what I'm getting at is joint effort to get a stable WM6 build working on the Trinity would be better than 20 buggy roms. Not to take anything away from anyone releasing WM6 roms, there wouldn't be any WM6 if not for them.
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I agree 100% with you. However,if it's executable or not...that's a different issue...
Bye
shoey5 said:
landshark: I'm talking about stabalizing basic functionality with the Trinity hardware. Get the standard things working first, fix all known issues to get WM6 working properly. After that people can base their preferences on something more stable. What's the point of releasing 3 roms with 3 different dialiers which all have different bugs not dependant on the dialer but the rom it's installed on top of.
As for which language to base it off of, doesn't matter, once you have a base rom, people can localize it to make base roms for each language. Would make it easier for someone to release their rom under different languages.
Really what I'm getting at is joint effort to get a stable WM6 build working on the Trinity would be better than 20 buggy roms. Not to take anything away from anyone releasing WM6 roms, there wouldn't be any WM6 if not for them.
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Ok, no one's stopping you. I'm sure people will be appreciative of your efforts.

Which one to choose?

i'm looking a rom to replace the official wm6 one.
since this i s the first time i'm doing such thing i'd like to recieve some help.
which rom should i choose?
there are many and the list of features is long and hard to compare between each other, any hint on how to choose and what to look for are well accepted.
thank you.
Lyllo,
Hello and welcome. There must be a thousand threads on here askng the same question.
I suggest you do one of several things:
- Search for each thread asking this question and see what responses were given:
- Look through the threads on here for each rom and from the discussion decide which is best for you (recommended option)
- Choose a number of roms at random, flash them, and see what you think.
I would personally sit down and decide what you are looking for in a rom, eg, speed, stability, speed (don't care about stability), stability (don't care about speed), feature rich versus feature lite, etc.
Once you have done this then go to option 2 above and see what fits. Next read mrvax guides THOROUGHLY (see here...http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/) BEFORE you jump in.
Also it is esential that you read the wiki (see here...http://wiki.xda-developers.com/) BEFORE you jump in.
If you want to change roms safely there is no short cut to assimilating knowledge, understanding thoroughly, then implementing.
Good luck and don't forget to backup your data before you start.
WB
can i go on asking some few things here?
1) wondering what's the difference between Black version and other ones.
2) i've noticed that most of the last releases basically give the same pack of cabs, so which are the parameters to distingush between them? they always define them quite stable, so cant find a way to choose
i'd prefer some more stability in order to have a fully and costant working device, but some speed would be nice.
found the schap's one but can't uderstand if it would be worthy to do an upgrade or not.
basically on this forum i've found that is always worthy...
4) what does at&t means? what has it for?
5) what's about the "big storage"?
thank you and hope i've been quite clear pls excuseme for my english ^^
thanks 4 your attention
lyllo said:
can i go on asking some few things here?
1) wondering what's the difference between Black version and other ones.
2) i've noticed that most of the last releases basically give the same pack of cabs, so which are the parameters to distingush between them? they always define them quite stable, so cant find a way to choose
i'd prefer some more stability in order to have a fully and costant working device, but some speed would be nice.
found the schap's one but can't uderstand if it would be worthy to do an upgrade or not.
basically on this forum i've found that is always worthy...
4) what does at&t means? what has it for?
5) what's about the "big storage"?
thank you and hope i've been quite clear pls excuseme for my english ^^
thanks 4 your attention
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Ok dude.....heres ur answers (please note mrvanx has about 3 bottles of merlot in him to cloud his judgement)
1) Black set the standard for ROMs, however the base ROM has evolved a fair bit since the last version of WM6 black (WM6 Black X).......Right now i recommend doing some reading about Pandora Naked 6....and customizing it for your own needs ;-)
2) Speed/Stability are relative to what you have installed....see 1)
3) Schaps ROMs are a VERY good place to start, however if you wish to truely taylor your device you should read into cooking your own ROM.
4) AT&T is a US based betwork......ignore it unless you are in the US
5) Big storage means the ROM has some optimisation added to the IMGFS file system so the storage space on the device is freed up for you to use, in some cases you could see a storage capacity of 80MB or maybe more!!?
...............finally.....
...INSTALL HARDSPL BEFORE DOING ANYTHING!!!!! good luck. ;-)
thank you ver much ^ì
extremely clear for 3 bottles of merlot, Vanx.. I'm very impressed
Lyllo, I'd say, first of all, install HardSPL like Vanx said
Next, I would advise you to try out some ROMs. The Black is very complete, there are some others who are very good. I personally use Schap's 4.22 and I like it alot (eagerly waiting for 4.30, hint hint Schap ) If you follow the proper procedure, flashing usually is a piece of cake and within 15 minutes you're up and running again.
You can only really know which ROM you like by trying them out for a couple of days. I tried Black and I switched to Schap cos I like it better but it's very personal.
Also, I suggest you take a look at your Radio ROM too. This isn't customised but it highly influences the performance of your Hermes, i.e. how long your battery lasts, how quick you get a link to the internet, how well bluetooth performs and so on. Read the threads on the various versions and pick the one that seems best for you and just give it a go for a couple of days.
After a while you will find your ideal combination. And that will be the best for you.
Shamanix 2.2
If you are not in to Internet Sharing, I would recommend you try Shamanix 2.2. No bugs. Its fast and stable.
I would recommend to give one of Edhaas's Roms a try, they are very fast AND stable:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320010
thanks to everybody guys.
i'll look around, even if i'm thinkig about waiting for android to give it a try.
these ROMs are wm6 the same, keeping all the M$ defects...
lyllo said:
thanks to everybody guys.
i'll look around, even if i'm thinkig about waiting for android to give it a try.
these ROMs are wm6 the same, keeping all the M$ defects...
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Yeah, thats right.
BUT:
At home I'm using Linux on my desktop system, my previous mobile phone has a Symbian OS. In the last 25 years I was using computers with C64 OS, Amiga OS, MSDos, DR DOS. None of all these operating systems was completely bugfree. Android is based on Linux and much more important: its developed by humans. So again it will have failures
The point is to create a Rom which handles all the given defects in a useful way. And I think some of the Rom devs here did a very good job.
the more static and simple an os is the more stable
the more cutting edge user costimizable and featurefull and advanced an os is the more places bugs and unablity to test all senarios play it's part
thak you guys.
let me just explain deeper that i'm talking about defects, not bugs.
it's quite obvious that human can do some mistake that reflects into bugs, i'm not complaining about that
i was just complainig the way wm6 is designed
anyway, i guess i'll have to wait for android or an iphone surrogate
by now i think i'll at least upgrade the rom from the official to a better in performance one.
there's only one matter, i've just found Schaps' 3.54 one in italian, can you tell me where can i find a list of localized rom in order to choose something newer?
i'd like to scratch as less as possible my ppc, so a full rom, with a sotisfactory set of program would be better.
thank you.
My first question would be are you sure you are using a Hermes/Tytn 1?
You said you were new to all this and asked which ROM you should change to from your stock/official WM6 ROM.
Not many Hermes/Tytn 1's are available with WM6 on them as standard. So just double check you have the phone that is being discussed in this particular sub-forum as if you use the wrong image on the wrong device it can cause big, non-correctable (aka permanent) errors.
At the risk of blowing my own horn, If you are new to this and would like a good start, try my ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355439
This will:
1) Updates your Radio ROM to the latest version - which many people find performs better (although there are apparently some issues with AT&T network - but as you're not in the US, that doesn't matter here).
2) Give you a featureset similar to what the phone manufacturer would have - including Office 2007, a voice command/dialer application, and the latest Windows Live.
3) Gives you the option to uninstall Office 2007, voice command software and Windows live if you don't want them.
4) Will work with pretty much any network due to the inclusion of the HTC network wizard which sets up your mobile for almost every network worldwide - just pick where you are.
5) Gives you about 54Mb of free storage BEFORE you uninstall any addon applications.
This will give you a solid base to starting to flash your device etc too - which is great
thank you guys.
i'm on a tytn II, not on I, my mystake, i guess i'm a wizard not hermes isn't it
i'll take a look.
this forum is really great, never found so many considerate and patient guys!
thank you very much to every one.
lyllo said:
thank you guys.
i'm on a tytn II, not on I, my mystake, i guess i'm a wizard not hermes isn't it
i'll take a look.
this forum is really great, never found so many considerate and patient guys!
thank you very much to every one.
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TyTN II is a Kaiser NOT a wizard. Do not flash a Wizard ROM!! ^_^

[ROM][WWE][Milestone 01]-New Artemis ROM 20721.1.4.0 build with TF2D

After many many roms i tried i decided to try to cook my own. Please keep in mind that this is my very first try! So any criticism is more than welcome!
Points to mention:
Ram: ~24MB
Storage Space: ~42MB
Included:
--Manila 2D latest version (based on update 19) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398173
--Manila M2DC v0.11.133 (latest Customiser)
--Poorlyduck M2D Digital Clock embedded (i personaly dislike analog clock so i included a digital one from scratch, I know it is tricky to use the themes and
clocks that are incombatible with all the new versions of manila)
--NETCF 3.5
--Office Mobile 2007
--Messenger & Windows Live
--Opal Random access Included
--New TaskManager version 2.1.34837.5 (fixes a bug that made Taskmanager Dissapear when manila is on)
--Arcsoft MMs 4.2.8 (less space, faster, but same fuctionality and fully compatible with Network Wizard, oldie but goodie!)
--Network Wizard
--4mb PagePool (PagePool changer included)
--Adobe LE 2.5
NOT Included:
--I personaly love the whole manila plugin,specialy the weather, but reaaaaly dislike all of htc album, audio manager and htc YouTube since there are other
applications that do the same job better! (Resco Picview Pro, CorePlayer, and youtube player from xda-devs is my kind of liking) So:
NO HTC Album
NO HTC audiomanager
NO HTC YouTube
NO HTC AudioBooster
NO Gmaps
NO Opera Browser
These apps can be installed through the cabs found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398173 and
should work smoothly with the rom.
--Syncrotime (but can be added easily )
--No Java (can be downloaded here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407667)
--No fancy Dialer (there are a bunch of them available to suit your liking but still the old mescle dialer that is included is my kinda favourite and really
fuctional!
--No registry tweaks about non-certified application (sorry about that, still it only comes up once!)
As you may understand this is a personal rom that i build for my needs. In my opinion a rom should have all the necessary apps (Windows Live, PDF viewer,
Office Moblie, Network Wizard, MMS) but when it comes to "goodies/eye candy manila" i prefer to keep it simple: Digital Clock, M2DC, and none of the buggying apps that simply are "optimised" to work with manila. I am sorry if you guys prefer a full manila style rom but both Yue's and ARTEMIS & LOVE offer that set of apps. I tried to keep my build manila-wise as lite as possible.
Credits To:
--------Bepe for an amazing Kitchen!
--------The whole manila porting crew of xda
--------ervius for its tools and especially his amazing package-creator!
--------Poorlyduck for a really nice clock inspired by pcarvalho's amazing work.
--------Anyone i forget, whose tools i used!
--------All of you brave testers - Users!
After Flash tweaks i like:
--Registry Editor to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell showclock (or something like that) set to 0 displays battery level instead of time on top bar.
--Registry Editor to (i dont know) to disable warning for non cerified apps if anyone knows which one please mention it! (btw i am noob-rookie-plain sheep aka i dont know how to edit registry through cooking )
After Flash programs i like:
--YouTubeplay http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=385227
--TF2D Dialer http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429179
--A regisrty editor of your liking for above tweaks.
As mentioned in Ratatouille movie: "Anyone can cook!"
Download at: http://rapidshare.com/files/154272404/Milestone_01_ROM.rar.html
Mirror: http://www.4shared.com/file/67144977/3d786fa5/Milestone_01_ROM.html
Currently Downloading now and many thanks for your cooking skills, you will join an elite team here no doubt. Will let you know how it performs after i flash it. Cheers, D
say welcome to another cook!
great!
yeah,it's great. Welcome
Here you are the OEM Package for disable Security warnings when installing non-certified applications.
http://rapidshare.com/files/1543216...installing_non-certified_application.rar.html
Cheers
Zecanilis said:
Here you are the OEM Package for disable Security warnings when installing non-certified applications.
http://rapidshare.com/files/1543216...installing_non-certified_application.rar.html
Cheers
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Thank you very much i will include it in the next update after i receive all the feedback for this release. Hope you all guys enjoy the rom. Thank you very much for all the encouragement.
thank you so much. let me try.
This Rom is very close to my needs and offers more space to download fav programs.
Nice Work!I flashed Yue Rom and PhamQuang Rom and my system keep crashing all the time since then.
I would like to try this one as it might solve my problem but I'm having a bad time with RS. Can anybody provide a mirror please!.
Many Thanks.
Al Asmi said:
This Rom is very close to my needs and offers more space to download fav programs.
Nice Work!I flashed Yue Rom and PhamQuang Rom and my system keep crashing all the time since then.
I would like to try this one as it might solve my problem but I'm having a bad time with RS. Can anybody provide a mirror please!.
Many Thanks.
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Mirror added on first post. Enjoy
thanx dude
i'm gonna give it a try when i'll be able to
it's great to have another cooker here
Thank for your ROM, download in progress. I will test it quickly.
Question : by chance, is it possible to have a French version ?
Come back with comment, if any of course
Krystof said:
Thank for your ROM, download in progress. I will test it quickly.
Question : by chance, is it possible to have a French version ?
Come back with comment, if any of course
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I may be able to translate the manila in french cause i think it is available but the whole rom is kinda difficult since i don't speak french! However i can upload the kitchen i used and feel free to try it yourself.
PS: Anyone knows where can i find 20758 or 20755 SYS & ROM for artemis?
HI, any chance for yours kitchen?
LPZ said:
HI, any chance for yours kitchen?
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One for me too
mikegee said:
I may be able to translate the manila in french cause i think it is available but the whole rom is kinda difficult since i don't speak french! However i can upload the kitchen i used and feel free to try it yourself.
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Ok guys, I think the real solution is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436924
Too much complicated way, i and michyprima's tool is only for his roms.
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Thank you so much. I really appreciate it.
I'm gonna try it and then post my comments, I hope it will solve my problem.
Thankz! Keep it clean rom. All tools can install later. I hate fat roms.
Now I using vanilla 4.01 best all rounds.
I will try to upload kitchen later today. I currently try to use old SYS (since i can't seem to find either 20755 or 20758 SYS-XIP) and see how it affects performance. I must say that it performs kinda faster but i need to test it a little bit more. I have 2 questions for you guys:
1) Would you be interested in a very very very light rom (lighter that extraclean for sure)? And if so, what apps do you think i should intergrate? (I think i should name that ROM "Strip" )
2) How do you feel about running latest SYS vs Performance? It may surprise you but older SYS may perform faster so what do you think?
Looking forward to feedback guys
Hiya Mike,
Appreciate the ROM, gonna flash it later when I'm at home.
The key thing for me is that I use IGo8 a lot now (especially for the speedcams , got caught last friday)!!
The free memory never used to be an issue, but now I'm a slave too it if I want to use Igo.
So a very clean rom would appeal to me, but I also like the new developments that get included in new roms that I would not normally be aware of.
Thanks for you time and effort!
Vince

This forum is great, BUT...

This is a great community, but why is so hard to find a really clean rom for Touch Diamond? I mean, you cook a rom, spend hour and hour to make it work, fix it with strange registry entry and then?
Then you:
- ruin it with ugly icon set/missing icons
- you put in it unuseful software or bloatware
- customize it with boot screen & animations with your name/nickname/name of your pet
I'm saying this because I've tried tons of rom and NO one rom is really clean and light as it should be. This is the same reason why you (and I) hate the personalized windows installation one can find on many warez site.
There is no sense in it. Software will be update, icons are beauty for you, maybe not for me. Some software could be useful to you, not for me. And you pretend donation! I know what you are thinking: why not developing your own rom? Of course I have no so much time and no skill to make it work. And I can't find an updated guide to follow. For sure, my rom would be:
- light
- no personalization at all
- no software in it
- supporting UC
I think this is the right way to go: only base software, support for UC in order to quick install your cab software or settings. I would donate for such a rom.
Agree? Thank you and sorry for the long post/my english.
I think this is because these ROMs are custom ROMs published to others. XDA is not a company to build the clean ROMs, it is just the forum of users. Everyopne can build your own ROM if you are able to, some kitchens are published. That is not so hard to remove unwanted stuff...
Mbiba
true ..
totaly agree with you ..
had the same problem when moved over to hd2. from all the customization and make-up cannot use the phone for normal work .. even when flashed "basic-reference" rom even THAN the wallpaper was some (for me) ugly and the clock was customized. so where is the "basic" ?
thats why you need to search and choose from the all the "evil" around .. the smallest one .. i wont say what rom, but there is rom for diamond that even it is customized, you are able to turn OFF all the customization and make-up, and have stock-like low mem usage rom.
i agree that it is not you were asking for, but .. is there another solution ? except flashing stock rom .. that we all agree is slower then custom cooked.
cheers
you guys can try the old aztor x2 ultimate rom. it is like the official rom with tweaks...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422417&highlight=aztor
but keep in mind that the diamond is an old device, there are no more updates from htc. there is no official 6.5 but tons of ultra light roms without customized icons ... flash one of those and install all your programms.
X
Stop whinging like a baby
Dont like the ROMs here, or too lazy to find one that suites your needs, then either *** off, or make your own
Thats like walking into an estate agents and complaining that "Yea you have loads of houses, but why have they all got different carpets, and decor, boohoo why cant you make all the house builders build them all to MY standards"
Sorry buddy, people in this forum have different tastes, its not all about you you you
go somewhere else or make your own
magicdave26 said:
Stop whinging like a baby
Dont like the ROMs here, or too lazy to find one that suites your needs, then either *** off, or make your own
Thats like walking into an estate agents and complaining that "Yea you have loads of houses, but why have they all got different carpets, and decor, boohoo why cant you make all the house builders build them all to MY standards"
Sorry buddy, people in this forum have different tastes, its not all about you you you
go somewhere else or make your own
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Stop replying as a baby. If you don't like this thread, simply ignore it. And, btw, it's not MY need, many people would love such a rom.
Gremo said:
Stop replying as a baby. If you don't like this thread, simply ignore it. And, btw, it's not MY need, many people would love such a rom.
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Have you even looked around ? There are plenty of "Clean" ROMs
Hey some are even NAMED "Clean" lol what are the chances of that ?
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Have you even looked around ? There are plenty of "Clean" ROMs
Hey some are even NAMED "Clean" lol what are the chances of that ?
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Are you asking me if I tried them? Of course I did, many of them, but "clean" was just and only the name. It was a waste of time. Either weird icon packages, crap software, slowness & memory leak and many many other problems...
I'm not just asking "you HAVE to cook only clean vanilla rom", just respect other users and their preferences and let people download also the kitchen, included a saved vanilla rom. So hard? So difficult? E.g:
Fresh 6.5.x wm:
- sense rom
- titanium rom
- no gui at all rom (just in case you love spb for example)
Of course no need of software in it, apart from ezinput, camera, and few others really required.
You will be happy if windows would come with, say, firefox, ccleaner, and an explorer replacement?
I have to partially agree with the topicpaster, ofc noone makes you use the roms, many chefs put a lot of work, and cudos to them, but the roms aren't always the way they are advertised, some time passed since I moved from diamond to HD2, but I still have my diamond with a crappy bootscreen (yeah I'm too lazy to search how to remove it, though noone advertized that it'd be changed, and flashing new roms doesn't solve it, not a big deal, but it's just one example...)
romka.t said:
I have to partially agree with the topicpaster, ofc noone makes you use the roms, many chefs put a lot of work, and cudos to them, but the roms aren't always the way they are advertised, some time passed since I moved from diamond to HD2, but I still have my diamond with a crappy bootscreen (yeah I'm too lazy to search how to remove it, though noone advertized that it'd be changed, and flashing new roms doesn't solve it, not a big deal, but it's just one example...)
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Don't be lazy..
just download ervius kitchen and cook anything you want...
there's Gen.Y that is barely a stock rom with sense 2.5. you can use that one,it has no customization at all. and there's also a lot of kitchens released around,people spend time preparing them and making them as easy to understand as possible. you can just download one,disable what you don't need and cook your own clean rom.
yngieaxl said:
Don't be lazy..
just download ervius kitchen and cook anything you want...
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that wasn't my point, and I suppose the original post's point... as I had mentioned, not a big issue...
I do understand that a person that has developed smth, always (mostly) tries to leave a signature of some kind, that's totally ok, but a figure of common sense would be mentioning that
Partially agree, too, but, we must be thankful with the chefs, they make ROM's according to their use, likes and more, so, they don't custom a ROM for you, it's like a car, you can like the outside, the inside, the engine, the power, etc... but, rarely you will like all from that car.
The truth is that when you don't like something is to make something to like it (to make your own ROM), but that doesn't mean anything critic towards you.
I have tried hundred of ROM's, and of course some are horrible in letters, menu, icons, work, speed, etc... but I have found on Ralphusion ROM the best ROM for my needs (TELEPHONE WORK), fast and stable.
All depends on what people want, a ROM to play, games, internet, etc... but... Diamond is limited on hardware, so why to make Sense 2.5 if we can have a super fast ROM with Titanium and have a TELEPHONE (it is not a GPS, it is not a Nintendo DS, it is a telephone....)
By the way, the thread is a good idea, all we have thought about this in some time, but you have explained writing it, so, good idea, maybe some good chef will create the PERFECT STABLE AND FAST ROM FOR DIAMOND, a device that is what it is.... They can call to the project something like.... WHAT HTC SHOULD HAVE DONE FOR ITS DEVICE.
Thanks everybody, best regards.
i dont really want to "advertise" my ROM but i you should try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786088
and as far as sense 2.5 on diamond is concerned it just doesnt make much sense
i dont understand why people ignore sense 2.1 its more suited to diamond's hardware
Gremo said:
For sure, my rom would be:
- light
- no personalization at all
- no software in it
- supporting UC
I think this is the right way to go: only base software, support for UC in order to quick install your cab software or settings. I would donate for such a rom.
Agree? Thank you and sorry for the long post/my english.
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I have installed many intalian and english roms on my diamond, if you're searching for a stabe one I suggest you to try the GenY (a bit old) or Fodd.
Both have no customisation (no strange boot screnn, no ugly icons or else), very few software installed and they are fast and stable:
GenY -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521941
Fodd -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=775419
I used GenY a lot with internet connection and also gps, i'm currently using Fodd and it also seems to fit my needs.
give it a try
(sorry for my english, i hope you can get what i'm saying)
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Are you asking me if I tried them? Of course I did, many of them, but "clean" was just and only the name. It was a waste of time. Either weird icon packages, crap software, slowness & memory leak and many many other problems...
I'm not just asking "you HAVE to cook only clean vanilla rom", just respect other users and their preferences and let people download also the kitchen, included a saved vanilla rom. So hard? So difficult? E.g:
Fresh 6.5.x wm:
- sense rom
- titanium rom
- no gui at all rom (just in case you love spb for example)
Of course no need of software in it, apart from ezinput, camera, and few others really required.
You will be happy if windows would come with, say, firefox, ccleaner, and an explorer replacement?
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Genuine Windows, just like Genuine ROMs go hand in hand
If you want to download a custom built ROM or Windows, then you can not complain when there are extras included
Ok I ended up cooking my very first rom, using latest official diamond one (6.1). I spent a couple of hours to figure out dependencies, but finally it works. Nothing special, just original rom without the software. UC doesn't work, don't know why .
Still looking for 6.5.x rom with titanium and no personalization at all. Thanks anyway to all voting "Yes" to the poll.
Are you serious?! You come here and tell the chefs to show you respect and make a Ferrari out of your Fiat? They even let you use their tools so you can create your awesome, unique, clean, fast and whatever you want your rom to be but you are to lazy to learn a few things. Cheffs owe you nothing! Dont blame them, blame yourself! Your attitude is very bad for this community...
The problem with Diamond ROM development is that there is no official "updated" ROM for the phone. The only possible vanilla ROMs for diamond are 6.1, and very little of the software from the 6.1 official ROM can be used for 6.5 ROM development. Any Diamond ROM that runs 6.5 or 6.5.x is built from software ported from other phones, and assembled using that other ROM as a guide. No modern phone has as little RAM as the Diamond. Using a "clean vanilla" build from any modern phone, makes for a bloated 6.5 Diamond ROM.
A stable, "clean vanilla" 6.5 Diamond ROM is a myth.
That said, clever developers can add compression, use lighter graphics (and get yelled at), choose to leave out needed software, and cut less used functionality to save memory. This can introduce bugs, and rile up users. For every user who wants you to remove a "thingy", you have another user who OMGNEEDS that "thingy" in the ROM. You can start adding "thingy" cab packages, but then you have to support and update those packages, which takes away time from development and testing.
Due to a few pushy users, a lot of devs just jump in and make what they want. If the dev happens to be really nice, he or she will make their ROMs available for everyone else to use. Of course, once they do release their ROM, they get criticized for one design choice after another. After enough negative posts and personal messages, it stops being fun. Eventually only the really stubborn and thick skinned devs stick around.
All that aside, there is just very little incentive to do custom ROMs for user requests. I did something like 30 minor revisions of my ROM, and 16 major revisions. I published as many as 10 different flavors from clean to bloated for every revision. I received as many as 3000 downloads for each ROM release... and yet, I never received a single donation. Lucky for me that I was never in it for the money. =)
In any case, best of luck finding your perfect ROM!
I agree with the idea of the post. Clean ROMs are much more nice, since the user can customize it the way he/she wants.
I've not tryied this much number of ROMs in here, but i am currently using Gen.Y R2.6 and i pretty much like it...
Icons are default, no fancy themes, tones, splashes, no visible nicknames all arround. The only thing visible is the bootleader (when powering on), that has an option to load Android (witch i did not install). Start Menu is also not very pratical, but you can revert it to old-style easely
I also agree that a good clean and complete guide on rom cooking would be very nice! there is A LOT info in here, but it's all scattered in thousands of threads...

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