Vanilla or WXML v0.10 - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

Someone can tell me what are the difference between this to ROM ?
Same soft (MSN...) ? Video call ?

It's all laid out in the first post here of this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295456

stpete111 said:
It's all laid out in the first post here of this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295456
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Yes for WXML but for vanilla ?

WMXL for sure... It has the regular Vanilla ROM plus some extras! And they both seem just as quick and stable as the other to me.

I'm a Vanilla lover I'm afraid.
I always manage to get rid of a few unnecessary files/folders etc that are present even in the Vanilla releases, which gives me even more "ROM space" to cook my own ROM with as many of my own software choices squeezed in there as possible...

sub69 said:
I'm a Vanilla lover I'm afraid.
I always manage to get rid of a few unnecessary files/folders etc that are present even in the Vanilla releases, which gives me even more "ROM space" to cook my own ROM with as many of my own software choices squeezed in there as possible...
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Well, the removal of the Office and RDP icons in the Vanilla ROM were the deciding factor for me. Yeah, the additional software takes up a little space, but they're small and not enough for me to worry about. And since I just started customizing ROMs, I am not too concerned about a MB or two until I really need them back.

richy240 said:
Well, the removal of the Office and RDP icons in the Vanilla ROM were the deciding factor for me. Yeah, the additional software takes up a little space, but they're small and not enough for me to worry about. And since I just started customizing ROMs, I am not too concerned about a MB or two until I really need them back.
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Absolutely!
Don't get me wrong, Kypher's done a great job. The added software doesn't have any impact on available Storage space after flashing and there's no reason at all why anyone should choose the "Vanilla" ROM over the "Live" ROM...
...unless you're going to cook your own ROM, and you want to start from square one with less to strip out in the first place.
I'll probably make a load of changes and additions that Kypher has already incorporated into "Live", but I like to start with a clean slate, and having messed around with a lot of ROM's on my previous devices, I'm pretty sure that I know 90% of what I'm going to do before I even start, and assuming I'm right, space is going to be at a premium!
Happy cooking!

It also comes down to how soon you got on board .
I was one of the first to download and install the Vanilla ROM before the WXML release was announced, and for me at this point there is no point in changing (especially after just getting my software how I like it ). Remember there will be most likely several releases of WXML over the next couple of weeks, so my advice is if you're already on Vanilla there is not much reason to move to WXML .10 at the minute .

I've a tytn in Portuguese unlocked, can I install vanilla or wxml?
thnks

KevinBaker said:
It also comes down to how soon you got on board .
I was one of the first to download and install the Vanilla ROM before the WXML release was announced, and for me at this point there is no point in changing (especially after just getting my software how I like it ). Remember there will be most likely several releases of WXML over the next couple of weeks, so my advice is if you're already on Vanilla there is not much reason to move to WXML .10 at the minute .
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Me too, and I used it for a grand total of 10 hours before I downloaded WMXL 0.1. And I'm glad I did. I like the software packaged with it, and I like the restored Office and RDP icons. I'll probably stick with this one for a while, but I am glad I went to WMXL from the Vanilla ROM.
guilherme said:
I've a tytn in Portuguese unlocked, can I install vanilla or wxml?
thnks
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How about both?!? You like that, don't you? Yeah baby...

hmm that's great, and if I want to get back, that's possible?
thanks for the reply

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Best / Reliable 6.1 Roms

Hello, I see a handful on 6.1 Roms in here. Short of loading each one of them. Which is more reliable or keeps on top of updates if needed?
Im Currently using the MRH. And I Dont know much kinda new in a way to upgrading my phone. But It just seems like there is alot missing with this rom.
sammyboy405 said:
Hello, I see a handful on 6.1 Roms in here. Short of loading each one of them. Which is more reliable or keeps on top of updates if needed?
Im Currently using the MRH. And I Dont know much kinda new in a way to upgrading my phone. But It just seems like there is alot missing with this rom.
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u have to load each because each user here may have a different experience with each because for me one rom maybe perfect next person may crash left and right and so on so only way to know is trying each like i like pvh 19400 although am now trying pvh19900
To a fellow OK State alumn, I have tested at least a dozen different 6.1 ROMS and this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376223
has been the cleanest, fastest, and most stable one for me. Just add the applications you want.
Much thanks! Yea thats the one i was toying around with. There are so many apps out there. I dont know where to start. and which ones would tailor towards my use.
i downloaded and tried them all,
Quite happy with the one ive got now, many have loads of apps but you start to loose available RAM when that happens.
best just to try a few and see which one best suits what you want to do, suggestion though is to keep your PIM and other things backed up incase you need to do a hard reset in the event of a freeze
Just keep on this forum as often as you can. It took me months to find out what I wanted and what worked. Just be patient and play around. It is more of a hobby to me than anything.
less questions and read read read the thread posts!! try a few with features u like! all the cooks have great roms if u know how to use them....
Best ROM
I have install and test almost all the WM 6.1 ROMS.
Like the other guys say you really have to test out a ROM as you might like some features over others.
In my time i have found the following:
TNT ROM WM6.1 to be the best all rounder - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376945
Only thing i don't like about it is the startup speed. Every with the animation disabled and the network auto config it still makes a good long while.
Blinky ROM WM 6.1 Super fast and really cool - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383751
My favourite ROM so far but does not come with many applications
im using pays rom 6.1, use it for a month now. stable and quite fast
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Blinky ROM WM 6.1 Super fast and really cool - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383751
My favorite ROM so far but does not come with many applications
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Its what I have and his review is spot on. Its very fast, probably the fastest I have ever used and incredibly fast startup time. It was missing many of the programs I like but thankfully I already had them on my storage card from playing with a Schaps Lite ROM a while back. I think my last changes will be a flashlight software like vjcandela and something better for BT transfers but all in all this is a great ROM and will definitely keep me happy until the next Schaps is released.
I like PDAViet build 19900... It is SOOOOOOOOO fast and had a remarkable 28Mb of ram left after installing it with almost 70Mb storage memory. Now down to about 25MB ram and 45Mb storage as I've put a heap of 3rd party apps on...Cheers...
the last Binky 6.1 WM 3.5 is a great slim one and you have the possibility to install your own apps after flashing
but guys, I can't beam files using the f***ing IR port... anyidea about it?

Poll: Which WM 6.1 ROM?

Just a quick poll for my own curiosity if nothing else, which WM 6.1 ROM are you using?
If not one of the above, please add a post explaining which.
Also, are there are any newer benchmarks available than those shown here?
You forgot "Binky11's ROM". Best I have used so far.
We seem to be getting a few 'others', but no indication which they are?
I'm currently using Faria's/Dr. Puttingham's ROM but it seems a little unstable, as the OS freezes on me forcing me to pull the battery to reset. I installed it yesterday, with 2 freezes already. I think I'm going to try another one. I use an 8525 btw.
-PB
PDACorner's ROM's have been the cleanest and most stable for me. He is always using the latest builds. I am currently using V.14. build 20226.
Personally I stay away from super storage ROMS. I don't have a need for them, and maybe by sheer coincidence I've only had 1 hard-reset for all the ROMs I've tried, whereas it seems like other folks were having them more often.
I've been a fan of the pdaviet ROMs, but lately have been happy with CRCs... not sure if you need to break out his dev ROMs from stable, since one is just a progression to another.
Stable, with good available program memory.
I used schaps 4 for ages, but I find myself more and more taking a simple "no options" rom (like the PDACorner rom) and adding the dialer, interface, and applications that I really want, instead of using some rom someone else builds.
So I guess you could say I use PDACorner with LOTS of mods.
CRC's 11.2 and 12.2 is the same
Basically re numbered. I too have issues with BS ROMs, my device seems not to agree with it! I would love to try again in the near future, but I use my device for business and can not afford hard resets at all. I go with CRC's ROM for weeks with the only need to power off and on again with side button every other week.
I don't know why but I can't seem to find others that would not hard reset on me, yet.
I have been using Alex's v5.att.161.home ROM for months now, and I love it.
yesod7 said:
I have been using Alex's v5.att.161.home ROM for months now, and I love it.
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Hmm, it is a hermes forum, ... you've got a tilt.
zocster said:
Hmm, it is a hermes forum, ... you've got a tilt.
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Oh. Right. Well, uh, if you ever get a Tilt, you should use this ROM...
i think the "others" are older WM 6.0 ROMs. im still using sleuth 3.1 from 7/5/07! =P. it's a PITA to backup data then upgrade, then resync data.
but i'm looking forward to upgrading soon, i think wm6.1 improves performance+stability yes?
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i think the "others" are older WM 6.0 ROMs.
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Agreed, i am sick of using WM6.1 to do the ASSync issue which seems to be present even in the official ROM's
Dvha79_ddt
Its always updated with the latest build. Its clean and stable. Suits my taste.
for what it's worth see my signature...
I have tried at some point just about every 6.1 rom I can find on this forum.
The PDAcorner v16 seemed good, and VERY fast, but I didnt like the UI or the idea of how long it would take me to get it how I like it.
I LOVE CRC's roms, they are clean, stable, and fast. Using 12.2 atm! with a 8meg page pool, dam fast!
For those who speak of the "latest build" ala PDA Viet and PDA corner...is there actually a noticeable difference when u flash to a later build ROM? I love flashing a new ROM but it takes me such a long time to get it tweaked to how i like it, so i don't do it so much and then when you consider that you can try the same ROM with so many Pagepool settings, sigh....i could be spending HOURS testing ROMS and just don't have the time to play with them all and at diff settings. That is why I am VERY glad for a thread like this, cause it seems to be frowned upon to compare the ROMS on this site (or mainly to ask the oppinion for a ROM)...i don't exactly understand that, why not discuss and compare them?
what i am wondering, are the latest builds considered to always be the best? i feel like there are so many factors (including unknown ones) that attribute to a ROM being a good working ROM.
for those who have tried lots of the PDAVIET ROMS, any thoughts on which is/are the best?
I can't pick one of the ROMS on the list, but i will say this, i've been on WM6.1 for a while and am considering trying 6.0 again to get a new frame of reference to tell if one is indeed better than the other for me
Shamanix`s WM6 Ultimate v2 FINAL [SuperStorage] With add on's
I'm using CRC12.3 at the moment, but I'm not all that rapt in it.
PDV has had some good ones. Does a nice clean install and removes rubbish that other ROMs leave behind. Got rid of a bug that had plagued me for months.
PDACorner has had some good ones.
Randomize had the best package that needed the least customising by me.
I guess I'm just a ROM junkie.
Been thinking of upgrading to a Samsung i900, but then I'd miss all this fun.
Dillsnik said:
I love flashing a new ROM but it takes me such a long time to get it tweaked to how i like it, so i don't do it so much
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You can use UC/sdconfig.txt to re-install all your favourite programs that run from internal RAM. Most of the stuff I want to add back in runs off my SD card. I just keep the cabs in a separate folder on my SD card and work through them. Only takes a few minutes.
Biggest hassle I had was with contacts and email settings.
But PIMBackup restores contacts in a flash, and Settings Savior restores all my email accounts (about 4 or 5).
Now I can re-flash and be back in operation in under 30 minutes.

The DREAM Excalibur ROM (Comparison thread)

I am writing this thread in the hopes that someone will build the perfect ROM. I have superficially compared two populars ROMs and hope someone combines them or teaches me how.
Comparison between:
Vanilla ROM (RUU_Excalibur_WM61_Kavana_Rickys_v24_Vanilla)[/COLOR]
&
Energy ROM (EnergyROM 1.0 052409 Excalibur)
VANILLA-Font options for date & time panel
ENERGY-No option to modify font
VANILLA-Panels are opaque
A lot of pre-installed panels
ENERGY-Panel are glass clear
(Nice!)
VANILLA-No reboot option on power button
ENERGY-Nicer power button menu
VANILLA-Same available Memory (About 19-21megs)
ENERGY-Same available Memory (About 19-21megs)
VANILLA-Old standard start menu icons
(Though, when going over icon, image changes)
ENERGY-Very nice start menu icons
(static images)
VANILLA-Better Sim Manager
ENERGY-Limited, at best
VANILLA-3 Alarms (My Razr had a better alarm program)
ENERGY-2 Alarms (My Razr had a better alarm program)
VANILLA-Flash Player
ENERGY-No Flash Player(no biggie, easy to install)
VANILLA-Plays Mp4 with audio and video
WM Media Player ver 10.3 Build 19700
ENERGY-Does not
WM Media Player plays video, but not audio.
WM Media Player ver 10.3 Build 21048
TCPMP play audio and not video
VANILLA-Old HTC Audio Manager Version 1.02
ENERGY-Newer NICER Version 2.0
VANILLA-Audio Recorder, saves to phone or storage card
ENERGY-Audio Recorder, does not save to device or storage
VANILLA-Picture Viewer, but no HTC Album manager
(Bummer)
ENERGY-Picture Viewer and HTC Album manager
(Very nice addition)
VANILLA-Resco Explorer
ENERGY-Total Commander
VANILLA-Old standard volume indicator screen
ENERGY-Nice volume indicator screen
VANILLA-2 note pad programs
ENERGY-No note pad program
VANILLA-No streaming media
ENERGY-HTC Streaming Media ver 3.10h(yeah baby!)
VANILLA-Annoying jogger indicator on home screen
ENERGY-clean
VANILLA-Voice Command access's program, but doesn't run it, or dial the contact
ENERGY-Voice Command does both
After trying both of these I have decided that these are the best out of the bunch. Please help to build the ULTIMATE ROM.
I. Love. Energyrom.
I agree. The ENERGY ROM, while not perfect (yet), is really the best I've used. Great work!
No offense, but this threat is meaningless.
VANILLA24 is totally outdated.
funoffan said:
No offense, but this threat is meaningless.
VANILLA24 is totally outdated.
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Fist bit yes this is meaningless...... As there are not too many ROMs to flash them all and find the one you want and most of the cons on v.24 Vanilla can be sorted like panel and streaming media etc.
v.24 Vanilla is not outdated and still used by many people you can still tweak it a hell of alot and have a large device memory and pagepooled it works very well............. Yes it may not be fresh but then does that always matter?
funoffan said:
No offense, but this threat is meaningless.
VANILLA24 is totally outdated.
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That's funny! the thread might be meaningless, but coming from someone that's only posted in four threads total and probably haven't tried all the different roms, makes it even funnier
stylez said:
Fist bit yes this is meaningless...... As there are not too many ROMs to flash them all and find the one you want and most of the cons on v.24 Vanilla can be sorted like panel and streaming media etc.
v.24 Vanilla is not outdated and still used by many people you can still tweak it a hell of alot and have a large device memory and pagepooled it works very well............. Yes it may not be fresh but then does that always matter?
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It's ok Stylez , we know that v24 vanilla is not outdated , shoot , there's people still using the original Kavana 6.1 rom that wouldn't change it for anything else.
If my Pagepooled Vanilla rom with 24m ram and 20m rom storage and the high level of customization is outdated, then I guess I'm oldschool.
Meaningless?
I would suggest that include the Rose ROM into the mix as well. There are some things that I would like to see in the Rose ROM from Energy ROM. The icons are really neat. I have used several of the roms put up on XDA and am, by no means, an expert.
roloracer said:
It's ok Stylez , we know that v24 vanilla is not outdated , shoot , there's people still using the original Kavana 6.1 rom that wouldn't change it for anything else.
If my Pagepooled Vanilla rom with 24m ram and 20m rom storage and the high level of customization is outdated, then I guess I'm oldschool.
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Your what put the old into oldschool
I have tried many of the ROM's myself over the last few months and I use the Vanilla rom still currently. The vanilla rom just happened to be the last one I flashed on my dash. The other ROM's have some nice things about them but at the same time there are things that I did not like at the same time. It really just boils down to your preference on features.
I have decided to start building my own...I don't really know how long it will take, but I'll eventually post it...
stylez said:
Fist bit yes this is meaningless...... As there are not too many ROMs to flash them all and find the one you want and most of the cons on v.24 Vanilla can be sorted like panel and streaming media etc.
v.24 Vanilla is not outdated and still used by many people you can still tweak it a hell of alot and have a large device memory and pagepooled it works very well............. Yes it may not be fresh but then does that always matter?
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Yeah... It IS outdated. But then again, the phone itself is outdated as hell too.. so...... it's a moot point I guess.
It's funny that the guy is comparing two ROMs made by me... LOL
****, if you guys REALLY want the best ROM for the Excalibur, I am willing to build it. Give me a list of all your wants and needs(along with files or cabs if possible) and I will build the ROM. That part is easy... Keeping tracking with what everybody wants is hard
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Yeah... It IS outdated. But then again, the phone itself is outdated as hell too.. so...... it's a moot point I guess.
It's funny that the guy is comparing two ROMs made by me... LOL
****, if you guys REALLY want the best ROM for the Excalibur, I am willing to build it. Give me a list of all your wants and needs(along with files or cabs if possible) and I will build the ROM. That part is easy... Keeping tracking with what everybody wants is hard
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Gotta admit moot point and all depends on what side of the fence you stand & if your glass if half empty or half full?
Did you make Vanilla ROM (RUU_Excalibur_WM61_Kavana_Rickys_v24_Vanilla) ? lol
NRGZ28 said:
Yeah... It IS outdated. But then again, the phone itself is outdated as hell too.. so...... it's a moot point I guess.
It's funny that the guy is comparing two ROMs made by me... LOL
****, if you guys REALLY want the best ROM for the Excalibur, I am willing to build it. Give me a list of all your wants and needs(along with files or cabs if possible) and I will build the ROM. That part is easy... Keeping tracking with what everybody wants is hard
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Voice Command is a favorite.
stylez said:
Gotta admit moot point and all depends on what side of the fence you stand & if your glass if half empty or half full?
Did you make Vanilla ROM (RUU_Excalibur_WM61_Kavana_Rickys_v24_Vanilla) ? lol
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Ahh my bad.. for some reason I thought he was comparing to the Rose remade you guys did...
if you build it they will come.
id be willing to test any rom. if you start with the energy rom (assuming you even want to do this, just amuse me here) can you add a working weather panel?
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****, if you guys REALLY want the best ROM for the Excalibur, I am willing to build it. Give me a list of all your wants and needs(along with files or cabs if possible) and I will build the ROM. That part is easy... Keeping tracking with what everybody wants is hard
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How about a new excalibur rom using the m2d homescreen with the best programs from the energy rom and the 6.1 kavana's/rickwyatt's/nrg's rose roms?
That would be awesome! Just throwing an idea out there.

any benifts to 6.5 on jan 20

any benifts to 6.5 on jan 20 ...campared to 6.1
heh?
heh? can you give more details about your question?
He's talking about the WinMo 6.5 upgrade for T-Mobile that is scheduled for official release on 1/20. It's the same leaked one that has been floating around for the last week or so.
To answer the question, I was running it for about 4-5 days. It's a solid ROM, but it's nothing to brag about. It's actually a little slower than most cooked ROMs offered in this forum. If you haven't done HardSPL and tried a cooked ROM, I would suggest doing so. You can always re-SPL/lock your phone if you need to return it for warranty purposes, and now that there is an official T-Mobile ROM you can just re-SPL/lock and then flash the 6.5 T-Mobile ROM to send it back.
T-mobile already official released WM 6.5 two days ago, (it is the same one leaked few weeks ago), see here http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1611377
It is a very crappy ROM
cgigate said:
T-mobile already official released WM 6.5 two days ago, (it is the same one leaked few weeks ago), see here http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1611377
It is a very crappy ROM
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It's the official version, I'm sure, but it's not officially released until it shows up here: Windows Mobile Upgrade. The fact that the link is hidden -- i.e., it's not published on T-Mobile's website nor on HTC's website -- means that they haven't released it.
I don't think it's crappy. Sure, that's a matter of opinion...but I've been running custom roms for months that are well beyond T-Mo's WM6.5, and I have to say it's not bad.
I like the new Tmo rom out now but in time will look at some other roms. Just want to make sure that the official go gets my official go lol. I can tell some effort was put into it so its not bad at all.
Looks to be legit, I stand corrected.
kable said:
Its not the official T-Mobile Rom because it doesn't have the T-Mobile Logo on the Startup animation which means it still needs to be updated if only to add that. Who knows what else might be added or removed. Until then its a prerelease.
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The one I flashed from the hidden-official link (not the leaked link of 7-Jan) has the "Stick Together" boot screen...which is T-Mo USA.
My phone didn't have that boot screen...lost it months ago when I first flashed a custom (WWE) rom.
ive been running it now since it was leaked, and I love it.... Im staying on this rom more than likely, but I want to try a custom rom, as its been a while since I flashed any cooked ones........... Of topic but whats a good leo 6.5.3 rom with the least bugs???????? Anyone??????????
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ive been running it now since it was leaked, and I love it.... Im staying on this rom more than likely, but I want to try a custom rom, as its been a while since I flashed any cooked ones........... Of topic but whats a good leo 6.5.3 rom with the least bugs???????? Anyone??????????
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Keep flashing...keep reading...it all depends on what your taste is like, and what you use your phone for!
i hate hearing keep flashing and reading..... Lol read any thread on any custom rom and its nothing but issues..... Im not into taste, I want stability, if ya cant suggest that, please dont suggest the obvious which ive already done, just wondering if anyone could steer in the right bugless rom direction....... But ill do what I always do, read and get discouraged from all the complaints........ thanks
I've been running the leaked rom for about 1 week now and so far it's a little slower than the stock 6.1 rom. Probably because it consumes more resources. My memory is always around 60% when it used to be 50% on the old rom.
The bugs i've found were:
I'm getting will not wake from standby about 1-3 times a day.
Music will not play after a soft reboot or after connected to the PC in Mass Storage Mode. It seems the media is scanning in the background but there's no message saying so. It would take about 20 mins before a file can be played for 6gigs of music.
Looking to install the new Rom, it's official now.
I've been using Timor for the past month or so and I've loved it. Very fast and Very stable. I've only had a couple problems where it freezes in the transition from texting to the home screen. Other than that it's my fav so far.
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i hate hearing keep flashing and reading..... Lol read any thread on any custom rom and its nothing but issues..... Im not into taste, I want stability, if ya cant suggest that, please dont suggest the obvious which ive already done, just wondering if anyone could steer in the right bugless rom direction....... But ill do what I always do, read and get discouraged from all the complaints........ thanks
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The cooked ROMs off of this site have worked out better for me than the stock ones. If I find something that doesn't work I can complain about it and the chef get around to fixing the problem. Try getting T-Mobile to fix something and then post it in a decent amount of time.
In my view, cooked ROMS are way way ahead of stock roms, be they wm6.1 or wm6.5.
The stock built ROMS are too "flat", less imaginative and too much of light weights for devices with unlimited potential like my tp2.
I just gotta say that temperbad does have a point. As someone who likes to hear technical issues as well rather than personal thoughts, it can be a bit frustrating to be trying to get some real bugs, issues with a ROM and have to wade throught comments about colors of screens, and how nice the buttons look. I wanna know a) what goes wrong, b) how does it happen, c) is there a fix. Whether the start menu seems shinier than others is irrelevant to me. Perhaps others feel the same?
well i flashed the 6.5 ...its ok ,i like it ...but nothing extra special about it ...the 6.1 was almost the same...all they did was add a few extra features and colors...with my original 6.1 i could get the same cabs of this site,but it is stable...my next move would be flashing a cooked rom ...but i dont now which one till i read the bourd
Flash It!
I flashed it about a week ago and I really, really like it. The RAM usage IS slightly higher, but I would think that's to be expected. But IMO, the new ROM is faster than the old stock 6.1 ROM I was using. Very stable and no freezes and the like, and that is after adding a couple thousand contacts, syncing a gazillion text messages, and adding a boatload of programs. Plus WM 6.5 is negligibly better aesthetically than 6.1....but better nonetheless.
The plan was to try the stock ROM along with a couple other custom ROMs on the same day...but I've been really satisfied with the stock ROM. Which the exception of Sense 2.5, I personally don't know what I'm missing with the custom ROMs...but I'd love it if someone would tell me specifically what that is.
On the same note, as a new member to this site, I love the forum format for FAQ's and such, but I really wish the site was easier to filter through. For instance, I considered flashing a "Energy" ROM. After deciphering the thread topics and finding his kitchen, then seeing that that there were about a million posts in the thread, I just got lazy and stuck with the stock ROM What if each cook had a "store" that he or she controlled with multiple threads in his store for each ROM and iteration of them...? Though I'm new to this community, I don't believe you would sacrifice the essence of the site with more usability. I guess that would take some web developers and additional resources so it's probably wishful thinking. But since they're talking about bringing in non-HTC phones I don't think it should be out of the question.
I also didn't realize initially that a lot of the themes, task bars, ROM's, software, and etc that are compatible with the TP2 are actually in other phone forums that run WM 6.1+ and Sense UI. Then of course, there's the generic applications and themes forums. It can be a bit much at times if you're anal like me and you want a certain clock and a specific taskbar. I don't mind searching at all, but try a search for "transparent clock" or "htc taskbar" only if you're brave...
ANYHOO *back on the trail* I like the new TMO 6.5 ROM. I don't have any benchmark tests or anything, but it "feels" faster to me. And far as I can tell, some of the cooked ROMs are stock ROMs with built in themes, minus bloatware, added tweaks, and built in software. I do all that stuff myself anyways
Try b16b's roms, 6.5.3 leo is awesome least buggiest one for me, and I've tried them all (even the legendary energy roms). You just need to install leo 2g dialer I think because the dialer will be missing, oh and it uses x2 task mgr (no task mgr in others 6.5.1 roms) and Ms stock msg. You'll be missing alot of things but you can always add it, I did.
no thanks he needs to finish the rom ...so we dont have to add cab files

[Q] Regarding the released HTC Desire Developer GB ROM...

I think i've posted this in the right section, but if not, my apologies in advance...
One thing that has confused me a bit, is all the added applications (which i never use) that come with the standard stock roms..
i.e: Footprints, Peep, Teeter, Stocks. (as examples).
I have to say i'm a fan of the HTC Sense experience. I've tried a few other custom ROM's, which were great but eventually went back to stock (just because i liked the sense features).
From all the ROM's ive seen and read about, none seem to be a full Sense interface, with minimal apps pre-loaded. Unless i'm having trouble with my reading !
I like the sound of the GB upgrade, but it sounds a bit incomplete. And i'm unsure weather to wait a while to see what's developed from it, or load it.
***** my question is this... *****
Is it possible, or are there plans within the XDA dev community to develop the HTC Desire GB ROM just released, into something polished and more mainstream for general users (like myself). with the minimum required pre-loaded apps for functionality. Then each individual could install apps from market that are important and useful to them. With full HTC sense feature.
Would this also save memory, reducing the number of pre-loaded apps?
Only apps removed, but included in the zip as apk are flashlight and teeter. The rest can be downloaded from the market. I'm not sure I understand completely why do you think this is not a 'complete' Sense experience?
erklat said:
Only apps removed, but included in the zip as apk are flashlight and teeter. The rest can be downloaded from the market. I'm not sure I understand completely why do you think this is not a 'complete' Sense experience?
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im just guessing at the "not complete sense experience" as its a developer release.
How stable is it, and is it suitable for general consumers to update to?
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im just guessing at the "not complete sense experience" as its a developer release.
How stable is it, and is it suitable for general consumers to update to?
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I flashed it as it came out and for me it is completely stable.
You may a well not bother with the update. A lot of people think that its not worth losing root and not able to get it back. Devs will use it though so expect some cool things to come out soon. NeoPhyte has already released the update into his rom that isn't a hybrid. If you give it a little time you will be able to try the update out without losing root.
Swyped...
Hi dsbnz,
I agree with every word you said.
I also like sense and the being-stock feeling.
Since I did not find anything that suits my needs I created my own Rom. I actually rooted the last official gb Rom with dsixda, removed some bloatware introduced by HTC (eg peep, stock, live wallpapers, some widget I never used, etc) and all applications that can be downloaded from the market (eg maps, gmail, voice search, etc).
I ended up with a very nice, stable and light Rom that fits into the data++ hboot.
You can try to do something similar. It's really not that hard.
In alternative I might share what I've done. If there is some interest I have no problem in posting it here in xda.
Regards,
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In alternative I might share what I've done. If there is some interest I have no problem in posting it here in xda.
Regards,
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well, spit it out please
kr
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wally80 said:
Hi dsbnz,
I agree with every word you said.
I also like sense and the being-stock feeling.
Since I did not find anything that suits my needs I created my own Rom. I actually rooted the last official gb Rom with dsixda, removed some bloatware introduced by HTC (eg peep, stock, live wallpapers, some widget I never used, etc) and all applications that can be downloaded from the market (eg maps, gmail, voice search, etc).
I ended up with a very nice, stable and light Rom that fits into the data++ hboot.
You can try to do something similar. It's really not that hard.
In alternative I might share what I've done. If there is some interest I have no problem in posting it here in xda.
Regards,
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I'm quite liking the sound of what youve done with your rom. I'm somewhat minimalistic, and like the bare minimum apps included in an OS.
i'd really like some of the new capabilities of the new GB rom (i.e "reboot" added to power menu, Wifi-N etc). If that rom could be fine tuned to pretty much as youve done with your's i'd install it. Actually until then if you're is stock (2.29?) without the fat. i'd be even happier having that while i wait
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i'd really like some of the new capabilities of the new GB rom (i.e "reboot" added to power menu, Wifi-N etc). If that rom could be fine tuned to pretty much as youve done with your's i'd install it. Actually until then if you're is stock (2.29?) without the fat. i'd be even happier having that while i wait
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Mine is not based on 2.29 but on 3.14 (the last GB release of few days ago), so it already includes the capabilities you are talking about.
I'll find a way to upload it here (any suggestion?).
I just didn't think it could catch some interest, since all other roms here are full of additional stuff/features/mods while I kept mine very simple and as close as possible to a bloatware-free stock.
I love Sense. Trouble is with the new official GingerBread its got old Sense. That's why I came here and got a ROM with Sense 2.1. I'm going to remove some of the stuff I don't want with ADB and then, happy days a ROM to my liking
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im just guessing at the "not complete sense experience" as its a developer release.
How stable is it, and is it suitable for general consumers to update to?
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That rant is covering their backs against horde of buffalos, the same one who scream this is their last HTC device. Good riddance
First line - this is for experienced users. Or they have massively misunderstood the term 'developer'. This is THE update. Stable and official. No beta as they seem to sprout all over this place. Lol beta
minimalistic ROM
Hi again,
Given your interest in the ROM I created this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1200466
I am currently uploading the ROM. The link will be online shortly.
Edit: link is online. ;-)
Regards
wally80 said:
Hi again,
Given your interest in the ROM I created this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1200466
I am currently uploading the ROM. The link will be online shortly.
Edit: link is online. ;-)
Regards
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Fantastic thanks!. before i get flashing is there any specific procedure to upgrading with this rom you've provided? Also, from what i've read (if ive read it correctly), upgrading to the new rom from HTC removes any chance of downgrading to 2.29/rooting etc. same case with your rom?
Cheers, and thanks to everyone who's commented all great feedback.
Glad that it helped...
If you have questions about the ROM can you please post them in the Rom thread? So that I don't have to keep track of both threads.
In this way also people reading the ROM thread can benefit.
Br,
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Glad that it helped...
If you have questions about the ROM can you please post them in the Rom thread? So that I don't have to keep track of both threads.
In this way also people reading the ROM thread can benefit.
Br,
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cool thanks again, will redirect to the rom thread with questions

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