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Hi all... I need your help... I have a Blue Angel and I want to buy a universal. But I read that Universal is very slow in compare with fx. blue angel... Is it tru? How can it be true...! because BA`a processor is 400 mhz..! Please tell me a little abouet universal... What is hot and not... thanx...
BA is 400mhz powering a 320x240 display.
Uni is 520mhz powering 640x480 display.
BA running WM2003se runs from RAM.
Uni running WM5 runs from NAND.
The Uni is slower, but it's a far better device If your BA is running WM5, then it's already slower than the BA running WM2003se, but the display is what makes the Universal great
AlanJC said:
BA is 400mhz powering a 320x240 display.
Uni is 520mhz powering 640x480 display.
BA running WM2003se runs from RAM.
Uni running WM5 runs from NAND.
The Uni is slower, but it's a far better device If your BA is running WM5, then it's already slower than the BA running WM2003se, but the display is what makes the Universal great
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Thank you for your answer... But my BA with wm5 is very faster then BA with WM2003... And I think speed is VERY important, if you would like enjoy your machine... and yes the display is what makes the universal great : )
by the way... you said Uni running WM5 runs from NAND. What is nand?thanks again...
For an explenation of NAND memory look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory#NAND_memories
It's true the universal was very slow at first but with the new rom's comming out it actually performs quite up to speed imho.
I agree it's faster than the AKU2 and earlier days, but it's still slow compared to a BA running from RAM, especially when you run things like TomTom or anything else that renders the whole screen in high res.
thanks for link for NAND... Is it so a minus that uni run from nand. Can I also change the Q... What is the plus and minus with the universal... I have now a BA. I know uni has a great display but is there anything else that can be a reason to buy and use an universal in stead of BA?
I Used to have a BA, the universal beats it in every way except size.
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I Used to have a BA, the universal beats it in every way except size.
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so you say the speed is not annoying...
I don't know how many of you are running the HTC phone skins, but that certainly is a major slow down. If you use the OS default phone skin it speeds things up significantly.
The processor can also be kicked up to full speed (not exactly overclocking, since it's a standard clock speed), and things will fly along, although I've never found the need to do so.
It's fast enough. It's not going to beat Blue Gene or anything, but it works and is a nice device. Particularly at VGA.
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vijay555 said:
I don't know how many of you are running the HTC phone skins, but that certainly is a major slow down. If you use the OS default phone skin it speeds things up significantly.
The processor can also be kicked up to full speed (not exactly overclocking, since it's a standard clock speed), and things will fly along, although I've never found the need to do so.
It's fast enough. It's not going to beat Blue Gene or anything, but it works and is a nice device. Particularly at VGA.
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Can you tell me how to put the default OS Skin without losing the video call button?
And also how to speed up the processor without overclocking it?
Thanks
I don't use video calling but you can access video calling externally, don't have to use the video call button. However, frankly I've not investigated this much, so in you case it may be worth sticking with the phone skin.
Since it also disables dialing prediction I think, stick it out if you need that stuff.
But do try it with the OS skin just to see how much difference it makes!
Speed up the processor - the standard overclockers do this I imagine.
I wrote a clock speed changer that will notch up the speed: I don't consider this overclocking, since the pxa27x specifies it can be clocked to 624mhz, just normally isn't. This app was unreleased since it's only for my research, and not required since other apps do the same better.
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VJ: can you recommend an application for the uni to clock it up to 624?
I think Pocket Hack Master is the standard recommendation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=246214
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vijay555 said:
I don't use video calling but you can access video calling externally, don't have to use the video call button. However, frankly I've not investigated this much, so in you case it may be worth sticking with the phone skin.
Since it also disables dialing prediction I think, stick it out if you need that stuff.
But do try it with the OS skin just to see how much difference it makes!
Speed up the processor - the standard overclockers do this I imagine.
I wrote a clock speed changer that will notch up the speed: I don't consider this overclocking, since the pxa27x specifies it can be clocked to 624mhz, just normally isn't. This app was unreleased since it's only for my research, and not required since other apps do the same better.
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Thanks for the info.
I try'd the OS phone skin and didn't noticed much diference. So I switched back to my previous one from Helmi-c rom.
One bigger problem that I have with this skin is that i'm using the VGA hack version of Helmi_c rom (the latest version) and sometimes when I switch from the phone skin to the today screen, the phone hangs and only the bottom bar works, so I have to rebbot the phone to comeback to normal. I'm using the vga phone hack too.
I don't recommend using it, but have you tried VJBigPhone?
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I don't recommend using it, but have you tried VJBigPhone?
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That is what i'm using, but why don't you recomend it?
Is there any alternative to make the dialpad big for VGA hack?
I thought there were some hacked versions of the Eten skins or similar for VGA... not sure tho. I don't use my own apps..
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My mate just got the orbit and i really love the look and feel of it! Was planning all along to get the M700 too!
Can anyone tell me how the two compare - i know the tech differences but how about looks, feel, speed etc etc..
Thanks!
chickyd said:
My mate just got the orbit and i really love the look and feel of it! Was planning all along to get the M700 too!
Can anyone tell me how the two compare - i know the tech differences but how about looks, feel, speed etc etc..
Thanks!
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you should go into O2 & Orange shops and compare.
The M700 has a 400 Mhz cpu, but the OMAP in the Orbit is more efficient. Overclocked to around 260Mhz (at your own risk) it runs at about the same visible speed as the samsung.
The x and y dimensions of the M700 are only a smidgen larger, but it is 2mm thicker and 15% heavier then the O2 orbit. The battery also does not last as long.
If you want a smaller device and/or GPS you need the orbit. If 3G is critical to you, you need the M700.
The final thing to note is that Orange lock their PDAs, O2 do not.
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Thanks for that!
I'm now thinking about the orbit. If only i could go and check out the m700 but no shops are stocking them yet - no word on release date either!
Currently have wizard and find the omap processor on it rather sluggish when not overclocked so think i'lll need to do this to the orbit.
Can you tell me how to set the clock constantly overclocked? (at my own risk aside) is this safe? prob go for aroound 240 to be safe - this is what i do to my wizard and it makes alot of difference!
chickyd said:
Thanks for that!
I'm now thinking about the orbit. If only i could go and check out the m700 but no shops are stocking them yet - no word on release date either!
Currently have wizard and find the omap processor on it rather sluggish when not overclocked so think i'lll need to do this to the orbit.
Can you tell me how to set the clock constantly overclocked? (at my own risk aside) is this safe? prob go for aroound 240 to be safe - this is what i do to my wizard and it makes alot of difference!
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I had a wizard before and I think the orbit is slightly faster. It might be because WM5 on the orbit is a couple of service packs more advanced then the wizard, or that the implementation of the omap has improved abit. But its basically the same cpu, and if you found it sluggish before, you are likely to again.
I'd try in the shop before you buy, as its all personal preference.
There are many utils to overclock, I use omapclock. After a reboot you need to run it again. There is also omapclockplus which attempts to keep the overclocker running on reboot.
The best utility is the commercial one called xcpuscaler:
http://www.immiersoft.com/
Not only does this give you the most control, but you can set autoscaling for cpu load. e.g. if the cpu is less then 50% full you can set normal-or under clock, which saves battery.
there is an overclocking thread in this forum, have a read.
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stupid me, forgot to mention the overclocker I actually use now (batterystatus):
http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_BatteryStatus_XDA_Neo_WM5_iM_cs.htm#Download
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colonel said:
stupid me, forgot to mention the overclocker I actually use now (batterystatus):
http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_BatteryStatus_XDA_Neo_WM5_iM_cs.htm#Download
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Thanks for that!
Will give it a bash when it arrives tomorrow!!
Also got the 2gb sd card on order.. going to format it with FAT32 and keep my fingers crossed i don't end up having to post in that 'other' thread!
Having looked at that link i'll prob just go with omap overclock - don't think i need the other functions of the software!
hi guys i would like to overclock my desire to one of the maximums how can iget linpack scores at about 60. if you go in top devices in linpack people have 1804 mhz or 1600 hod do i overclock that much. what rom, what kernel.Are thosescores real.Thx
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_mDTLphIVY
You can't overclock the desire anywhere near that. Why do you care about the scores anyway?
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yeah the score on linpack is important to me, because thats what the speed depends from.if you go in lipack top devices you may clearly see 1804 on the nr 1 score and 1600 on the last.but even if it cant go at high then which rom may go the highest. thats more what im asking for 1800 is just a example.
1190 on most kernels. Shouldn't be important as its not the same as real world speed. You have a lot to learn
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1190 on most kernels. Shouldn't be important as its not the same as real world speed. You have a lot to learn
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Actually he doesn't. Obviously he done his part on researching and he knows what he wants. Linpack is a tool every Desire owner should have on his device and run it as often as possible. After all we all buy the most expensive graphics cards to run 3D mark all day long, not to play games or to bother ourselves with our needs, size of our screens and resolution we intend to play on.
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actually i know that linpack isnt all the realness of speed but its one of the most truthfull things to check the cpu.i mean quadrant is **** and i know about that.Do you know any kernel 1190 for reduxv2??
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Actually he doesn't. Obviously he done his part on researching and he knows what he wants. Linpack is a tool every Desire owner should have on his device and run it as often as possible. After all we all buy the most expensive graphics cards to run 3D mark all day long, not to play games or to bother ourselves with our needs, size of our screens and resolution we intend to play on.
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These linpack and quadrant benchmarks are not exactly synonymous with SANDRA though. These don't give a realistic perspective on how well a phone will run. The only use is to compare your device with one setup against your device with another set up. Trying to beat the devices of others' is futile.
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actually i know that linpack isnt all the realness of speed but its one of the most truthfull things to check the cpu.i mean quadrant is **** and i know about that.Do you know any kernel 1190 for reduxv2??
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EVERY benchmark is ****. End of story.
rootSU said:
These linpack and quadrant benchmarks are not exactly synonymous with SANDRA though. These don't give a realistic perspective on how well a phone will run. The only use is to compare your device with one setup against your device with another set up. Trying to beat the devices of others' is futile.
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Wink wink
I'm doing the same thing as always, but this time I'm doing it in the gloves. Terepin here got it I see
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I shall put it down to being ill
guys your changing the subject.!
What subject? This thread was predestined to be doomed before you posted it.
bechmark scores doesn't show the real daily performance.
i guess a ordinary desire takes a score of 1300 from quadrant. (correct me if i am wrong)
miui x-part rom takes it to 2500-2600... does it effects daily use, absolutely not...
on the other hand overlocking is not necessary, in my pov. you make your device hotter, unstable etc. and more importantly you will drain your battery much faster. and we all know that desire's battery isn't great.
but who takes those score and why? i guess those kernels are specific for bechmarking and not for daily use. i clocked my desire 998mhz for normal use and even less when the screen is off...
Didn't see a thread for this in here anymore so I thought I'd post. I know synthetic benchmarks don't mean a lot but I'm curious of what other people are scoring since mine seems to be lower than others tested.
My phone is a Telus SGH-T989D with a rooted stock rom with SetCPU running the system at 1.5 and have the V6 Tweak setup.
I find it interesting others have scored over 4000.
I was going to ask this same question. I tried smart bench on stock rom and the score was always between 2500 and 3400 when i see results of over 4000... I now have the Bombaridier v1.3 Rom and still get the same low results?
Is this normal score or could our phones have some cpu problems? Im thinking on going to T-Mobile and exchange the phone since it also has the camera pink spot problem and minor screen lines and spots on low brightness in dark colors...
finally had some time to sit down and enjoy my phone
Why are we getting our clock cleaned by so many other SGII models?
I don't know if this is a contributing factor, but they're using 2.3.3
We're using 2.3.5
To further this pattern, from what I understand, ICS is causing qudrant scores in the low 2000's and below on good phones..
The more advanced the OS version, the more it taxes the phone.. Just an observation.
I understand that it's fun to see your phone on top, but aren't these "benchmark" tests pretty irrelevant to performance and satisfaction? Is your phone laggy? Do you have any problems or is everything buttery smooth and running well? If it is then I wouldn't worry about arbitrary test results to be honest. You can run benchmarks over and over and get a different score every time. You can cheat on them. In the end just find a ROM/Kernel with the settings and features you like and enjoy it!
Yes that's true but every upgrade in OS uses more resources, so you're bound to see more lag on ICS than our current ROM
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I guess not that many people use this one.
If you check Engadgets review of the Galaxy Nexus, you will see it getting outgunned by the RAZR in Linpack.
Single thread: 42.85 vs 50.0 mflops
Multi thread: 69.37 vs 95.66 mflops
As I understand it they both contain SOCs from the same family with identical clocks. How do you explain the difference? Is there something in the kernel causing the CPU to underperform? Maybe its not running at the highest clock rating when running the benchmark?
1st. Who cares.
2nd. The OS is different and Linpack may not have been updated yet for ICS. This phone seems plenty fast.
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I find these scores a waste of time. What really matters is how it responds to you in your daily use. That varies a lot from user to user and no scoring method will account for that...
Yes the phone is buttery smooth, I have no complaints in that department. However, this is a technical forum and it would be nice to figure out what exactly is going on here.
Guessing...
The software they used is not "aware" of the changes in ICS..;.