A man walks into a hamburger restaurant where he has bought a permanent seat (the universal). He sits down, picks up the menu and looks at the long selection of hamburgers(AKU 3.X ROMS) to order from. The waiter comes over and asks what he would like. The man looking around, looks through the swinging doors into the kitchen(Microsoft and HTC) and see the chefs cooking steaks(WM6). The man looks at the waiter and says “I’ll have a steak.”
The waiter replies “I am sorry sir, but this is a hamburger restaurant.”
“Then why are they making steaks?” he asks, pointing to the chefs in the kitchen.
“Ah, they are preparing for a new steak restaurant that we will be opening next door. They are simply trying to get the flavour right.” He says quiet proudly.
The man looks reflective for a moment then says “Alright, I’ll buy a steak. How much do you want for it? You can test the flavour on me.”
“Again, I am sorry sir , but the steaks are for only in-house chefs to try.” The waiter replies.
“Fine. Let me speak to your manager.”
“I am the waiter/manager, sir. And no matter how much you offer, we will not be selling those steaks here. I am sorry.”
The man then gets up and leaves the restaurant, goes around to the side door (XDA-forums) and knocks on it politely and explains to the chef that he would like to try a steak in the hamburger restaurant.
The chef tells the man “ Since you own the seat here in the restaurant, you can bring any food you would like and eat it at your table. I’ll give you a steak and you go back around and eat it inside.”
The man hearing this is overjoyed. “Thank you kind sir. I will give you any feedback on what I think about your steaks.”
The man then takes his steak, heads back into the hamburger restaurant and proceeds to eat it. The man thinks “Why didn’t he just sell me a steak? It would have been so much easier. Tell me a price.”
The manager seeing this knows where the steak came from and is quiet consternated. On one hand his new restaurant is not open and he would like some feedback about his steaks. Hell, he himself eats the steaks in this restaurant. On the other, he cannot sell steaks in this restaurant as most of the seats have been bought, plus few would want to spend the extra money on adding steak to the menu and it would take away business from the other restaurant. So, he lets the man eat his steak for now, knowing that one day soon he might have to lock the side door.
I suggest reading it twice. Once as a business man and again as a consumer.
Great Analysis ! ! !
Sounds Great...
Sounds Great...
Fabulous
i think that by far is the best 1st post i have seen!!! Its perfect! i think im gonna cry, lol j/k
This post accurately represents the daily dilemma that a board such as XDA Devs faces when trying to choose between just plainly serving the menu and trying to get their customers the best there is without getting on the wrong foot with companies such as HTC or Microsoft.
What I miss in this story though is the Chef threatening to sue the restaurant manager if he dares to serve steak outside the menu. I would also dare to say that when knocking on the XDA-Devs side door, it would not be the Chef (e.g. Microsoft) answering the door, but the sidekick that does the dishes
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What I miss in this story though is the Chef threatening to sue the restaurant manager if he dares to serve steak outside the menu. I would also dare to say that when knocking on the XDA-Devs side door, it would not be the Chef (e.g. Microsoft) answering the door, but the sidekick that does the dishes
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That just screams "Can i get an Apple with that iSteak". well sh!t, im probably going to get a letter from apple over that comment.
Guy 1: I'm getting sick of eating the same burger for over a year. I read from the news that there is a new cafe opening soon. It looks like a nice place, cozy & fancy. The apple pie sure looks delicious
Guy 2: Well, you know. This restaurant is also coming up with a new menu soon. It's a steak. I'll tell you what, I just got a sample from the chef. Wanna bite?
Guy 1: Sure!
Guy 2: So What do you think?
Guy 1: Uhmm...my..GOD...delicious. I prefer it well done, anyway, it's much better then the burger. If they tweak it a bit, I'm sold
GREAT !
Just a GREAT Post !
I'm all exhausted from laughing
Cheers
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This post accurately represents the daily dilemma that a board such as XDA Devs faces when trying to choose between just plainly serving the menu and trying to get their customers the best there is without getting on the wrong foot with companies such as HTC or Microsoft.
What I miss in this story though is the Chef threatening to sue the restaurant manager if he dares to serve steak outside the menu. I would also dare to say that when knocking on the XDA-Devs side door, it would not be the Chef (e.g. Microsoft) answering the door, but the sidekick that does the dishes
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Actually, I was going to say "junior chef", however I do know major devs(none in the PPC market) who, for reasons of their own, give out "in-development software" for testing and feedback. These guys look at it as a free resource and a symbiotic relationship. They get what they want and you get to use the latest and greatest.
I wrote this article to show the legal grey area that the XDA-Forums operates in. It really is a tight rope act. One slip and its a long fall with no net.
You do provide invaluable services to the community as well as much needed feedback on PPC products to the companies that create them. But what do you think will happen when one of these companies' manager types gets the notion that you are hurting profits instead of creating them?
PS I see the waiter/manager as the managers of Microsoft/HTC with the chefs strictly being Devs.
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Now no more cooking up Roms and OS's and no place to go.
I'm upset to see this.
There has got to be a way to carry on?
What were these guys afraid of? Oh if you want the new OS and it's capabilities you got to go to carrier and get ripped off!
I wonder who complained the most? I bet i-Mate was at the top of the list. HTC?
I want to run the newest OS without purchasing a new unit period and if I can't I will not be purchasing any more from the likes of Cingular, T-Mobile.
You know here in the good old USA you can't even get a decent phone from T-Mobile they are in the Stone Age. Cingular is a little better you can get a stripped down Tytn as the 8525 that of course is locked to their network and they almost always strong arm you into a 2 year contract! What are these guys Dictators?
You know why cant we develop our own like Sony's UX Micro series?
These thing would put these guys out of business. After all I always build my own PC's b uy the operating system. I can build these to suit me.
Well the End is near the Commies are taking over, lets hug a tree and sing some Kumbaiya.
Ok Ranted
amen brother
Me too! Tired of buying $650 phones with crummy ROMS and no support. It's absurd!! I left the board for a week and a half and came back today to upgrade to the Dopod ROM with GPS (I have the p3600) - whoops! - it's gone - Screwed!
Everyone can pat microsoft on the back for being so lenient for so long but I've been doing Windows since the first version and have watched them illegally put Netscape, Ecco Pro, Wordperfect (almost), Firefox (soon) and hundreds of other great software companies out of business through bullying and bribing - this makes me not give a flying you know what about respecting their rights. They even bullied the feds - more power there than the Vanderbilts and the Rockerfellers (sp?) ever had!!
I have spent a fortune on their products, and I have done almost everything totally legally (which is why I have spent a fortune). But they are not satisfied with that. They have to run all the experimenters and the innovators out of business, and when theirown products suck, they have to buy the competition out of business. I will buy and use the first good open source OS that comes along for these excellent PDA phones - I am so tired of throwing dollar after dollar on systems that don't work (don't get me started on Active sync, duplicates everywhere, increasingly limited abilities to sync, Outlook and the inability to have one PIM on more than one computer at home without 3rd party software at home, and so on).
It makes a good man want to cry. At least Apple is up front about it. And, altho there is no opportunity for innovation there, at least their products work. Microsoft is in business just to blow everybody else out of the water. Tiring to say the least. Deserving of a consumer revolt at best!
Yes they are within their legal rights. Legal rights these days are like political rights in the past MIGHT MAKES RIGHT. Thank you again, Bill Gates.
We're still cooking up ROMs. In fact I posted one just today. The location has simply changed. FTTB everything's on RapidShare. We no longer host this location however, so the care we took in ensuring that pre-production ROMs not yet sent to Operators were removed is now gone.
What has m$ really done here other than just make a lot of people really mad (the petition has around 6,000 signatures currently)? Oh, I know. They've hurt their sales.
... go figure...
as if MSFT cares much about sales they would only care if their $$$ go to competitors like Apple iPhone for example... then Bill would go bananas but a few billion less in sales that's peanuts for him ))
on another point, rapidshare is not searchable (for obvious reasons)... will then the sharing and testing be done through PM only???
I have been told (smile) that emule has a search function.
Yeah but really, would you install a rom that came from e-mule?
Exactly. Did anyone 'mirrored' the ftp before it was taken down?
I can't believe, BTW, that xdad being scared by M$FT -without any reason, let me add - did not give us some time to mirror it. This is clearly pathetic, I think.
there is a mirror!!,,, search this forum carefully for the word "gurus"
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there is a mirror!!,,, search this forum carefully for the word "gurus"
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So are we not meant to tell anyone the web address?
:gulp:
I've seen in the Benchmarking that the last stock ROM has further better audio results. Why there is such a difference with the cooked ROM? Is it possible to get a cooked rom with the same good sound results.
Further more for little devices like Sony Ericsson W810i geeks manage to enhance the sound by modifying the audio drivers. Could some one do that. I wish I could and give to diamond owners good audio drivers by editing Wavedev.dll (I think it is the audio driver to modify) but I'm not developer
Exemple of SE Audio drivers
Tom_Codon, Bepe,Dutty,...
The gap of sound performance is so big between the stock ROM and cooked !
Cookers what do you do which make the sound performance down like that?
If I'm not mistaken, Toshara makes apf (audio/acoustic preset files) - (and vkp patches) files for SonyEricsson.
Pardon me if I'm wrong, but Toshara doesn't play on the HTC playground, nor on any WM for that matter.
What did you attach his acoustics here for?
I just attached because perhaps it could have helped to understand how to enhanced how wavedev.dll. But I can understand that it is different platforms and SE must be simple compared to how WM6
That's the least we can say.
apf files are by no means drivers and they have nothing to do with drivers per-se.
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That's the least we can say.
apf files are by no means drivers and they have nothing to do with drivers per-se.
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The gap of sound performance is so big between the stock ROM and cooked !
Do you know what makes the sound performance down like that?
Sorry for the drivers posted it is because I'm losing hopes
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hey Are Directly from America Not long after an old Chinese women came back to china from her visit to her daughter in the Sates, she went to a city bank to deposit the U.S. dollars her daughter give her . At the bank counter ,the money was real.It mady out of patience.At last she couid not hold any more, uttering :“trust me, Sir, and trustthe money .They are real U.S. dollars. They.are directly from America. ” decolorizerHe Won Tommy: How is your little brother, Johnny? Johnny: He is ill in bed. He hurt himself. Tommy: That's too bad. How did that happen? Johnny: We played who could lean furthest out of the window, and he won. I Have His Ear in My Pocket Ivan came home with a bloody nose and his mother asked, "What happened?" "A kid bit me," replied Ivan. "Would you recognize him if you saw him again?" asked his mother. "I'd know him any where," said Ivan. "I have his ear in my pocket." A Good Boy Little Robert asked his mother for two cents. "What did you do with the money I gave you yesterday?" "I gave it to a poor old woman," he answered. "You're a good boy," said the mother proudly. "Here are two cents more. But why are you so interested in the old woman?" "She is the one who sells the candy." Drunk One day, a father and his little son were going home. At this age, the boy was interested in all kinds of things and was always asking questions. Now, he asked, "What's the meaning of the word 'Drunk', dad?" "Well, my son," his father replied, "look, there are standing two policemen. If I regard the two policemen as four then I am drunk." "But, dad," the boy said, " there's only ONE policeman!" Hospitality The hostess apologized to her unexpected guest for serving an apple-pie without any cheese. The little boy of the family left the room quietly for a moment and returned with a piece of cheese which he laid on the guest's plate. The visitor smiled, put the cheese into his mouth and then said: "You must have better eyes than your mother, sonny. Where did you find the cheese?" "In the rat-trap, sir," replied the boy. 1,Two birls Teacher: Here are two birds, one is a swallow, the other is sparrow. Now who can tell us which is which? Student: I cannot point out but I know the answer. Teacher: Please tell us. Student: The swallow is beside the sparrow and the sparrow is beside the swallow. water decoloring agent2. The Fish Net "Can you tell me what fish net is made, Ann?" "A lot of little holes tied together with strings." replied the little girl. magnesium oxide3. The New Teacher George comes from school on the first of September. "George, how did you like your new teacher?" asked his mother. "I didn\'t like her, Mother, because she said that three and three were six and then she said that two and four were six too....." Polyacrylamide4. A physics Examination Once in a physics examination, Nick finished the first question very soon, while his classmates were thinking it hard. The question was: When it thunders why do we see the lighting first, then hear the thunderrolls? Nick\'s answer: Because our eyes are before ears. Jim’s History Examination Uncle: How did Jim do in his history examination? Mother: Oh, not at all well, but there, it wasn't his fault. They asked him things that happened before the poor boy was born.
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wtf that is this ???
Hello guys I'm the creator of the Palm Pre theme and mod @ leakdroid.com we were contacted by Palm, Inc. They demand that we immediately remove the application and any advertisements regarding the application from any website on which they appear. This includes wallpapers/ringtones/icons/screenshots.
So i'm asking you all to remove any icon/wallpaper you might have.
It was a fun ride theming the AndroidOs. Mods please take action..
Thank you all for your Support.
Wow that sucks
Damn thats some crazy ****!!
My wife was actually planning on going this weekend to get/order one for work (her work isn't with T-Mobile, so she has different choices).
I can't wait to tell her about this when she wakes up. I know her feelings about this type of nonsense, and I guarantee she won't be wanting a Palm after this. It's a "theme" for goodness sake... a sincere form of flattery. And in her case, she was pretty dead-set on getting one. I don't know what she'll end up getting now, but I can almost 100 percent guarantee she'll spit on the Palm demo unit when she walks by it to look at other phones.
It's not like the OS was ported over for the phone. Just some creative types put together a theme that partially emulates the look and, well, less slightly, the feel of the POS Palm.
It's nice to see makers show their true colors at any early stage in the game. Thank you Palm, you silly little request irked us enough to reconsider a Palm purchase. Hope your board is proud.
does this mean that any other theme that has any elements of your pre theme must remove those as well, or just palm branded images? this sucks massively.
Aren't they in a battle with Apple for some crap like this? Not theme wise but trying to sue because they Palm hacked the Pre to work on iTunes, Apple updated iTunes and Palm got made saying it violated some USB crap?
I read an articial and I just skimmed tho it.
O well, I never called for the theme but now I WANT IT just because.
I'm not mad, more irritated by this move by Palm. Like a previous poster said, it's a theme. Just the fact that they did this will guarantee I never buy anything palm.
Shoot, if I could remove the "Palm's" of my hand I would.
Whatever.
Great work anyways l3wish. Sucks you put a lot into it for this to happen. I'm sure you'll create some other great theme(s).
Dear Palm,
Suck it.
Sincerely,
Six6Sicks.
palm pre layout looks so GAY. so the fact that palm is doing this crap makes them MORE GAY .
palm eat a fat "____"
@l3ish i hope this doesnt stop u on making theme's for us
I say we leave the themes on our phone, just to stick it to them.
I think you know what I want, anyone that has it please help me out cbowley603 |@| gmail |.| com thanks.
I see no reason why we can't continue to use the theme if we like it but I know it can't be up for downloads anymore because then l3wish would get into trouble and we don't want that...l3wish don't pull a Haykuro on us and leave man we need you...[l3wish says in his Tony Montana voice at Palm Inc.]
What you lookin' at? You all a bunch of ****in' assholes. You know why? You don't have the guts to be what you wanna be? You need people like me. You need people like me so you can point your ****in' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie. Me, I don't have that problem. Me, I always tell the truth. Even when I lie. So say good night to the bad guy! Come on. The last time you gonna see a bad guy like this again, let me tell you. Come on. Make way for the bad guy. There's a bad guy comin' through! Better get outta his way!
P.S. Sorry for the language but when you quote Tony there is no other way.
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Hello guys I'm the creator of the Palm Pre theme and mod @ leakdroid.com we were contacted by Palm, Inc. They demand that we immediately remove the application and any advertisements regarding the application from any website on which they appear. This includes wallpapers/ringtones/icons/screenshots.
So i'm asking you all to remove any icon/wallpaper you might have.
It was a fun ride theming the AndroidOs. Mods please take action..
Thank you all for your Support.
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There have been "funny" people in the past who eg. demanded crossbow to be deleted in name of Microsoft, but turned to be false.
We wait until OFFICIAL claim of Palm, via the PROPER channels, and not by an UNVERIFIED notice placed by a third party!
All themes and wallpapers can stay UPON FURTHER NOTICE.
Hey , Can anyone upload Iperov's Pocket Guitar Sources or Similare Application , Links are dead in the main Topic .
Thank you
Yes my friend. I can help you, but first, let me tell you my tale...
It was a small village that I grew up in, probably much like your own. People laughed and cried, but we all loved the place we came from and that kept us together. Then in my early 20s I was visited by a knight of the realm. He had been given a quest, an almost impossible quest, but it was his duty to see the quest done, or die trying. Over the following months we became friends, that knight and I, and shared many a tale of fortunes, both good and bad. He became a brother to me, and I a brother to him. He trained me in the ways of combat, and I trained him in the ways of life, both of us learning the most vital lessons that the other had to offer.
Then came the day. My Brother had to leave. His quest awaited him, and he longed for the journey in a powerful way.
He gave me a map to show his route, in order that I may one day follow in his footsteps and see the monumentous journey through which he had struggled. The journey would be easy for me as he would have slain the many beasts along the way, and I would merely be an observer to the aftermath. That was the plan, but as we both know, in life, sometimes things do not go to plan.
Only two days after my Brother left our small village did he return. He had been poisoned by dwarves along the way, and he was now close to death. His final breath was a laboured breath, but it carried the words "it is your quest now, my Brother".
I knelt in the muddy street, my Brother's head in my lap, whilst I cried out into the raining sky "WHY GOD? WHY?", but God did not answer. He did not need to. I already knew what must be done.
And so, after an almost impossible effort, and losing many, many dear friends and loved ones along the way, I managed to struggle my way across the mountainous terrain, fighting off many vicious animals, not to mention the murderous mutated demons and creatures of The Pit. I faced The Mighty Baal himself and we fought... oh how we fought. At times I felt like I'd been fighting this monstrous demon forever, blow after blow ripping my life from me an ounce at a time, until I finally landed the fatal blow that freed us all from the uncertainty that had been raised by the quest.
This was truly an historic adventure that would be talked about, in a hushed voice, but a hushed voice filled with awe, for many generations to come.
I did it all for you my friend. This was an epic struggle, but I finally found your answer...
http://tinyurl.com/ydxd46k
Pocket guitar
johncmolyneux said:
Yes my friend. I can help you, but first, let me tell you my tale...
It was a small village that I grew up in, probably much like your own. People laughed and cried, but we all loved the place we came from and that kept us together. Then in my early 20s I was visited by a knight of the realm. He had been given a quest, an almost impossible quest, but it was his duty to see the quest done, or die trying. Over the following months we became friends, that knight and I, and shared many a tale of fortunes, both good and bad. He became a brother to me, and I a brother to him. He trained me in the ways of combat, and I trained him in the ways of life, both of us learning the most vital lessons that the other had to offer.
Then came the day. My Brother had to leave. His quest awaited him, and he longed for the journey in a powerful way.
He gave me a map to show his route, in order that I may one day follow in his footsteps and see the monumentous journey through which he had struggled. The journey would be easy for me as he would have slain the many beasts along the way, and I would merely be an observer to the aftermath. That was the plan, but as we both know, in life, sometimes things do not go to plan.
Only two days after my Brother left our small village did he return. He had been poisoned by dwarves along the way, and he was now close to death. His final breath was a laboured breath, but it carried the words "it is your quest now, my Brother".
I knelt in the muddy street, my Brother's head in my lap, whilst I cried out into the raining sky "WHY GOD? WHY?", but God did not answer. He did not need to. I already knew what must be done.
And so, after an almost impossible effort, and losing many, many dear friends and loved ones along the way, I managed to struggle my way across the mountainous terrain, fighting off many vicious animals, not to mention the murderous mutated demons and creatures of The Pit. I faced The Mighty Baal himself and we fought... oh how we fought. At times I felt like I'd been fighting this monstrous demon forever, blow after blow ripping my life from me an ounce at a time, until I finally landed the fatal blow that freed us all from the uncertainty that had been raised by the quest.
This was truly an historic adventure that would be talked about, in a hushed voice, but a hushed voice filled with awe, for many generations to come.
I did it all for you my friend. This was an epic struggle, but I finally found your answer...
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Hun , i tried this , But Source Links are dead ><
Sylar00 said:
Hun , i tried this , But Source Links are dead ><
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There's a download for the app in the first page of the search results.
pocketguitar
johncmolyneux said:
There's a download for the app in the first page of the search results.
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I already have the app , but i need the sources -__-
Sylar00 said:
I already have the app , but i need the sources -__-
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A pm to the op is probably your best bet then. Good luck in your quest
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Check that thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2349036