Hi guys.
I have Intsalled WM6 on my universal do you know how to user Voip Functions?
I wonder about that, too. I have read into the matter a bit and it seems that the test ROM might still be missing an actual sip core? As of now the today plugin just looks like a mask with nothing behind it (unless I am missing some hidden options). It would be great if I could ditch the 3rd party voip solutions as they are totally uncomfortable to use when compared to a native integration.
Me too! I'm dead keen to hook up my Universal with my asterisk PBX. Anyone know any more about the client? It appears to either be absent or just non-configurable atm?
I think it is simply a VoIP through MSN messenger? Hardly a SIP client I know...
If you have MSN Live set up the today plugin allows you to make calls through MSN Live if it is available.
So its still SJPhone for me to hook up to our asterisk server... (works with Midgets ROM BTW)
All the Reviews said that has sip function.
The MSN option would at least be something, but I also think that what was meant is real SIP support as searching through the registry reveals at least a few corresponding entries (sip port for example). My guess is that as the ROM was not finished when it got leaked that the VoIP functions were still not implemented... the reviews didn't show detailed configuration pages for this either if I recall it correctly.
if I remember correctly the msn voip client is a SIP client anyway? it just points at a microsoft sip proxy and only handles uris of other msn voip users (ie, the sip proxy doesn't route outside the msn voip client uri namespace?). I have to admit I have not used it myself tho. I may sign up for msn voip to see if the windows mobile client starts automagically working (its only a tenner or something)
Would be great if someone could test it out to confirm which version is actually true. If the MSN phone function is SIP indeed there should be ways to hack it and use our own services; but that's going into speculations a bit too much for now. I hope to hear your report
MSN SIP for VOIP
I can confirm that Microsoft MSN Messenger uses standard SIP for voice. It's one thing the M$ got right, deciding to use an open, properly implemented standard protocol.
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Hi Guys,
This Blackberry stuff everyone is chatting about is puzzling me..... :?
Now, I have never owned one, or for that matter seen one.. so my questions are:
1: What does this thing do that is so special?. I know you can get your emails delivered to it, but you can do this with the XDA via gprs/wifi.
2: What is this Blackberry plugin/software for the XDA(IIs)? does it give the same functionality as a Blackberry?
Sorry if I sound a little dumb, but I have never taken the time to look into this product and I thought this would be the ideal place for a sensible answer!
Thanks in advance chaps
The blackberry device is like a PDA, but with the ability to receive emails from a blackberry enterprise server (BES). This server pushes the emails to you as soon as the email arrives at the server. All email clients (by en large) query the server to see if there is email and the get it when the server says that there exists new email. With a blackberry you get the email instantly (no need to keep querying the server).
The blackberry software is supposed to allow you to get that push email access on your palm/pocket pc
personally I dont like RIM devices, they dont support non-latin characters, and I have no need for push email. My job doesnt pay me enough to have access to me 24/7
Thanks Admiral (Getting to be a habit this)
So the only real benefit is "Push" technology.....
Same here then, my job also does'nt pay me enough either! :lol:
Push email is very handy even if your job does not pay you enough to be on call 247! I spend a lot of time away from home, so use my XDA to check my personal emails as well as work! Although the IIs does not support (Yet!) blackberry you can try the duality software from Smartner. This is simple to use, and is the nearest thing to push email until the BB client becomes available. www.smartner.com
Hope that helps too.
Celtic
What is the benefit of 'push' email over simply polling your pop server every 'x' minutes?
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What is the benefit of 'push' email over simply polling your pop server every 'x' minutes?
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The smartner software polls the server every few mins. This costs me quite a bit over gprs, so I always connect manually when I need to. (I can change it to poll auto every 15, 30 60 mis etc.) BUT, with the smartner software it synchronises with my pop server, so if I delete from my pda it is also deleted from my pop server etc - this is what I like.
I was expecting the smartner software to have email "pushed" to it. But it seems to poll (like I said above) every few mins. Im not sure if this is "real" push email?
I have noticed Microsoft Messenger can stay connected for ages with very little data exchanged untill I get a message. I was expecting this to be the case with smartners push software.
Regards,
Ian Watson
The biggest benefits are for corporate email users...
1. Push email (faster and more efficient)
2. Calendar / unread mark synchronization
3. Attachment viewing (the most popular file formats are all supported)
There really is nothing else that is widely deployed that does these things (or at least does them well and is an excepted corporate standard).
In the absence of the Blackberry client software, I'm using IMAP mail, which I find to be ridiculously slow when compared to my old Blackberry handheld.
So all emails have to be routed through the BB server then?? (sorry im a bit ignorant in these matters). Just interested because I run my own email server in my office (mdaemon) and all email gets routed through that and distributed to the various people in my office, so if someone wanted to use blackberry we wouldnt be able to use our mail server as well??
If you want to access internal corporate push email you have to connect the Blackberry Enterprise Server to a mail server, it supports 3 mail servers: Microsoft Exchange, IBM Lotus Domino or Novell GroupWise. If you want to access Hotmail, AOL, IMAP or POP3 you have to use Blackberry Web Client on the device which I presume is pull.
The nice thing about blackberries is they support one-handed operation like a mobile phone and have a keyboard. PPC PE should really get it's act together in terms of one handed operation.
I've setup a cheapo version of "kind-of" push email - a perl script on a server that polls a POP3 mail server every 10 minutes and sends out a txt message with subject and some of the body, can't handle HTML emails yet though.
Hi folks,
I have a T-mobile dash (WM5) with a data plan (but no blackberry plan). My new employer uses only Palm OS Treo's and Blackberries for mobile corp email - although they use Outlook for desktop corp email !
The IT guys were a little puzzled with the Windows Mobile Device ! Anyway, I was wondering if there is a way to
1) Use my T-mobile dash's data plan
2) Along with a WM5 app
3) to connect to my corp blackberry's server.
I downloaded the WM5 blackberry app but it doesn't seem to connect anywhere, nor could I figure out how to set it up. Is there a step by step guide somewhere ?
Also, is that app very similar to the Treo/blackberries ? Then I could simply give my dash+BB connect to the IT guys and they could configure it (if the UI etc are similar to blackberries ... they know only treos and blackberries).
On a final note, I wanted to convince the head IT tech to support WM5 Outlook 'officially'. For this I need some information on how easy, secure it is to deploy this setup. Their current exchange server is mostly inside the corp firewall, so copying the desktop outlook settings to the dash doesn't work (desktop is inside corp firewall, dash is outside).
Thanks folks
Sid
Hello Sid!
I just came from a similar scenario- here's how I resolved my issues.
To be able to support direct push in Microsoft Exchange, a patch has to be applied to the server (The patch is called "Messaging and Security Feature Pack (MSFP) for Windows Mobile 5.0"). Direct Push allows your WM device to be in constant communication with the exchange server by pinging the exchange box for any changes to that user account (email). When a new email arrives in your inbox, your phone then downloads the new message. You can also sync your contacts, calendar, etc.
Unfortunately, my company has not applied this patch yet. When I went from my blackberry to WM5 device, they were not thrilled.
Thankfully, T-Mobile offers a push service called T-Mobile MyEmail which allows you to push email from any exchange/POP3 address. It will automatically locate the server address for you, just provide it your company email address and password.
From a security stand point, Microsoft's Direct Push is the most secure. It will also allow your system admin to remotely flash your handset if happens to get lost or stolen.
If you are interested in learning more about T-Mobile's MyEmail, go to:
http://www.myemail.t-mobile.com
For more information regarding Microsoft's Direct Push Technology, check out:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/articles/directpush.mspx
Cheers
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Hello Sid!
Thankfully, T-Mobile offers a push service called T-Mobile MyEmail which allows you to push email from any exchange/POP3 address. It will automatically locate the server address for you, just provide it your company email address and password.
From a security stand point, Microsoft's Direct Push is the most secure. It will also allow your system admin to remotely flash your handset if happens to get lost or stolen.
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But my corp email isin't POP or IMAP ... its exchange and blackberry. So while its a good suggestion, it won't help my situation. (?) I tried setting up my email via the "setup my email icon" but it doesn't work.
Also, exchange is inside the firewall so only "real" computers can access it via VPN/corp ethernet. Blackberry is outside the firewall. This is why my WM5 outlook can't even reach the real outlook server. I think I have two options
1) convince them to setup Exchange to talk to mobile devices
--> I'm going to forward your link to the IT guys so they can evaluate this option - thanks!
2) make my own WM5 device look/work reasonably similar to the Treo/Blackberries they are used to configuring. Then say "please set this up like a blackberry like you normally do".
For 2) I think I have found the app (bb connect?) but don't know
2.1) how to configure it
2.2) if it's the latest version (where do I get the latest version?)
2.3) If having just the data plan is good enough or do I need the special blackberry plan for this to work.
Hope that sheds more light .... thanks folks
Sid
Stoneage
Hi,
I have the same problem, only there's no convincing my IT department to support WM5 device. It supports only BB that are company property.
I have an external outlook privately setup with push mail and an alias for my corporate email, but the it seems like the redirect and auto forward rules I've defined in my outlook are forbidden or something, since they won't forward the mails I get from my exchange account to my external account.
Any idea how to go around this?
Some outlook plugin/software that will automatically forward mails to my external account?
Thanks.
Why don't you just get a blackberry data plan added to your account and use the blackberry connect client? That is all you need, as long as IT setup an account on your BES server at work.
Not that simple
If only life was that simple.
Not everybody can get a BB in our company and the IT department will not support devices that aren't owned by the company.
So, I'm looking for the workaround.
Hi,
I got WMXL v0.20 running on my device and I would like to use flexmail. I tried to install the last Beta release which should work on WM6.
http://download.pocketinformant.com/FTF/FlexMail_2007_R2_Public_Beta/PB1_1418/
But it does not. When installing the cab file I get an error message Flexmail requires a pocket PC 2002/2003/2003SE system. Anyone figured out a way to install Flexmail?
Thanks
char05
Cannot help you: But consider NOT to install FlexMail. Its really buggy and developer is not very responsive about criticism.
The built in eMail client does have SSL encryption and it does read HTML emails - one key reason why a lot of people used FlexMail.
For me using FlexMail I would loose all my eMails twice a week. Then SMS/TEXT would not work properly anymore - even if you would not use FlexMail for these messages. I spent quite a while figuring out that FlexMail was causing all the problems. And no help from the developer - no refund of money - instead he urged me to send him more and more log files. Well - I was not beta testing
Now using the WM6 standard eMail client without any problems
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Cannot help you: But consider NOT to install FlexMail. Its really buggy and developer is not very responsive about criticism.
The built in eMail client does have SSL encryption and it does read HTML emails - one key reason why a lot of people used FlexMail.
For me using FlexMail I would loose all my eMails twice a week. Then SMS/TEXT would not work properly anymore - even if you would not use FlexMail for these messages. I spent quite a while figuring out that FlexMail was causing all the problems. And no help from the developer - no refund of money - instead he urged me to send him more and more log files. Well - I was not beta testing
Now using the WM6 standard eMail client without any problems
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Hallo Applestar,
thanks for the hints. So far I was using the standard email client in WM6 and everything worked fine. Since this week I have the following problem. When there is an email in the outbox there is an autentication problem. The smtp server I use requires authentication and the wm6 email client does not handle it properly as the autorisation is always refused. It is not a problem with the password nor with the smtp server as sending emails work fine from my laptop. So I wanted to try Flexmail as an alternative which in this case I better not.
char05
I had the beta version working just fine... are you sure your downloading the right cab/install version?
With WM6, I no longer need FlexMail. The reasons I needed FlexMail were for HTML mail and proper IMAP sync/delete support.
Now with WM6, HTML support seems to be pretty good. And IMAP account emails that I delete and resync seem to really get deleted as expected.
I never could get SMS to work properly with FlexMail either. And it would lose my db's every few days to the point where I had to conciously back up its Mail folder constantly so when it did upchuck, I could just replace the folder and resyc. Total pain. Good riddance.
Now if only MissingSync would support WM6, I'd be one happy guy.
I considered to install Flexmail for the IMAP Idle Support.
But if it's so crappy.....
So how can i use IMAP Idle with the build-in Outlook on WMXL 0.20?
I sync to Mac and so use Missing Sync from Markspace.
This worked well with WM5 Roms indeed, IMO more user friendly than ActiveSync.
The changes made in WM6 means that device will only look for PC with ActiveSync on (for security issues?) and so Missing Sync won't connect.
Markspace are dealing with this issue and in time will re-write to solve this issue however, it leaves me with a serious problem at the moment and possibly for some consderable time!
Has anyone managed to work around this issue, if so could you let me know.
Thanks
hdd123
SVP M3100
Black 2.5
Radio 1.41.00.10
I can think of only one way, but you need Entourage on your Mac.
(1) Set up an account with 4smartphone.net
(2) Have Entourage sync with 4smartphone
(3) Have your Hermes sync with 4smartphone.
This works like magic. LIKE MAGIC I tell you. You change something on your Hermes, and - look ma, no hands - you go back to your Mac and the info has changed there too. And the other way around! and it is all pushed! GEEK HEAVEN.
They offer a trial period ... might just be long enough for MarkSpace to come up with a solution.
If you have Office for Mac installed, but do not use Entourage but instead use iCal, then you need to set up Entourage to sync with the iCal database. The option is somewhere in Entourage.
That's well and good, but only a partial solution. Entourage only syncs Email, Contacts and Calendar with an Exchange server. You'll still be missing out on Tasks, Notes, iPhoto and iTunes which Missing Sync takes care of nicely. I do hope MarkSpace works it out soon, but that's not likely to happen until there are some shipping WM6 devices available in the States...
I second that...
Man I really really need Missing Sync again!!!! I'm sure we're not the only ones
Is there a way to hack and reverse that security feature?
Cooks and cooders we can put a bounty on this!
Thanks for your advice nispen. I Have sorted out 4smartphone account as i run Entourage. I have had partial success in that have been able to sync to an exchange server but must have made a mistake somewhere as contacts in entourage are not being updated. This said, I have been able to get all addresses in one place - on phone and in Mac Address book so at least I'm halfway there!
Like spidy.web says, as the problem ultimatly likes within WM6 being secure - someone out there might be able to solve this problem - a reg edit or something?
hdd123
Missing features in Windows Live Mobile <> Window Live Messenger alternatives?
Hi,
Why isn't Windows Mobile Live Messenger not the same as Windows Live Messenger?
A capability of video conferencing would be nice (like webcam or videoconference in Windows Live) or the other usual features (send pictures/voiceclips) but most easy is the direct envelope button to get in your hotmail via a cookie.
What's the latest version by the way and isn't there any official link to a cab or something?
If you know an alternative messenger with the above possibilities let us know!
I tested palringo, with this one I could send pictures and voiceclips...
Thanks,
Innovator
it's different because the device is massively lower spec than a home or office PC and streaming video calls over the mobile network could work out very expensive for the novice users who arent expecting it...plus most devices dont have a front-facing camera yet.
you can set up a favourite in internet explorer for your hotmail to automatically login if you want
alternatively, if you've got a decent data-plan you could set it up to sync "as items arrive" which will automatically update your mobile's hotmail account with your live hotmail account ... so theres no need to log in at all
i dont think you CAN download it separately, it tends to be cooked into the roms and so isnt user-upgradeable....but you might get lucky and find a link if you use the search on this site
isn't there any other program/tool for video conferencing then?
We can always turn our P3300 and look into the cam and turn back to the front screen, better then nothing...
ateksoft's webcam plaus will turn your phone's camera into a webcam, but doesnt have any conference facilities or anything. It will just let your desktop PC use your phone as a webcam (when connected)
dont know of any program to do what you want, but someone else here might