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WARNING: Do not break your Sync-Connector

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The connector for active-sync of the XDA is very badly constructed.
Until I got my new XDA2, I had a XDA1. I had it exchanged (warranty) against the XDA2
after some discussion with o2 about bad quality ot the xda1 (I had it 3 times repaired, but it broke soon again. Last problem: the connector for syncing broke 3 days after I got the replacement xda.)
The problem seems to be the smal plastic lid that holds the contacts:
While the plug resting on the plastic lid and the metal frame not supporting the plug suffiiciently because of a quite big gap between them, the lid could easily break if force
is applied up- or downward.
This way my last replacement XDA1 deterioated.
(Un-)Fortunately, the active-sync+charge cable (non O2-accessory) I had for XDA1 my seems to be pin compatible (syncing works).
So the plug is the same, and one should be VERY careful with it.
->Also the original charging adapter is constructed in a way to send bending forces to
the small plastic lid of the inner connector (good to know for warranty discussions).
I actually think of a plug-adaptor, that interfaces between the original plug and the outer
world. It cold be supported via a steelframe that one integrates into the original wallet.
Ideas are welcome!
Summary for the lazy:
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! The Active-Sync-Plug is *badly* constructed.
- The inner plastic lid holding the connectors BREAKS easily.
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!! So beware of cables attached to the sync connector. !!
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Use only the craddle that applies forces only to the case of the XDA
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May I add on top of this ... it happened to me and the USB connector is broken. The bad news is: there is NO way yo fix it and as it's integrated with the main board (the power pin) the only option is to replace the main board :x :evil:
Guys, be more than just careful with your devices on that point.

Biso007 said:
May I add on top of this ... it happened to me and the USB connector is broken. The bad news is: there is NO way yo fix it and as it's integrated with the main board (the power pin) the only option is to replace the main board :x :evil:
Guys, be more than just careful with your devices on that point.
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This is not necessarily true. We have the sync and audiojack connectors in stock and can replace them. They are a pain, but doable.

May be you are right, but it's the case with my device. They said the connection point with the power track (pin) is lost, so the main board has to be replaced. Or maybe they are not equipped the same way you have at USA, and the shipping cost makes it more expensive

In Australia the O2 service Centre will charge you for a compleate replacment main board, they say they can't fix the connector and because the phone was out of warranty they simply charge for a compleatly new board :x SHARKS!

XDA Connector repairs avaliable here
Hi Guys,
I used a company in the UK to repair by busted XDA 2. The damn connector fell out when using an aftermarket in car charger. Got his company to repair it. Were pretty good. their web site adress is www.apexlaptops.co.uk
I was pleased wit the service. Hope they can help you like they helped me!
Good luck guys.

Pocket PC Techs ROCK
I had my unit connected to a cable and landed on the floor - connector first. OUCH. The female connector on the bottom of the unit was loose - and the unit became useless (connections no longer worked). I sent it to Pocket PC Techs, and they fixed and returned it all within a week, and for a very reasonable fee as well. Try them. It'll probably work. Just be gentle with it when it's plugged in.

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Re: SYNC CONNECTOR REPAIRS
brentwebster said:
Hi guys. Just to let you all know that i do repairs on sync connectors if anyone has got a broken one. The repairs are done same day sevice, so the day i recieve the phone i repair it and send it back out to you the same day. Th cost of this repair is £40-00. My contact detials are [email protected]. Email me for further details
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Hi Guys, just to let you know that brentwebster has used the picture from my auction and I sell the connectors for £10 on ebay, if you are fairly good with a soldering iron you can do it yourself - I'll give a discount and free postage in the UK to members of XDA-developers who mail me before buying for details
Richard / fluffcat1
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9707299579

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Re: SYNC CONNECTOR REPAIRS
brentwebster said:
I can supply these connectors at £8 to anyone that wants them. :wink:
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PM me for a better price :twisted:
Richard

Re: SYNC CONNECTOR REPAIRS
Another person offering this service to those who can't do it themselves:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9704914642
£39.99 plus return postage, paypal accepted, 647 feedback rating ( 1000 under mne but there we go ) , no affiliation blah blah blah. Maybe brentwebster can start a price war with them as well?....
Richard

Broken SYNC Connector on my XDA IIi
Can anyone repair this????
If they can please email me with details (address, cost etc)
My email is [email protected]
Thankx

I have one with the connector completely off. Rather soldering a new one on, I was thinking of hard wiring a usb lead on, to fit my arkon gps receiver. Does anyone know the pin outs. I only need data in/out, ground and vcc

Where to I find an External Antenna for XDA II?

Since I'm not an expert on antennas I've had a hard time finding an Antenna for the XDA II. I'm actually looking for an antenna I can use in my home to get better reception. Does anyone know where I can buy one that plugs into the back of the device? I've already noticed much better reception with my XDA II over the XDA I ... with an external antenna it should be awesome. Thanks.

connectors
The connector was a standard unit used in the old 'carphones' I used to have loads of them, I worked on them from 89 to 96. I cant remember the name for them, they should be quite available, try www.cpc.co.uk they might have them.

external antenna - where to find?
I would love to find an external antenna also for the same purpose - stationary at home for better reception. Thanks for any help
Steve

external antenna - where to find?
I would love to find an external antenna also for the same purpose - stationary at home for better reception. Thanks for any help
Steve

I found out the specifications of the external antenna "receptacle" from the i-Mate folks (shown below). I've attached the PDF he sent. Now I have to find an appropriate antenna. I'm also thinking about getting a repeater, but I've heard they're expensive ($500-1000).
Thank you for the enquiry! Well, regarding your question; I am sending you a file (as an attachment) that should give you all the specifications of the external antenna. For any further enquiries, please contact us, we will be glad to assist you!
Regards,
Srushti Ghisad - Technical Operations Engineer - i-mate™ from Carrier Devices
Office No. 207-213 - Building 11 - P O Box 500085 - Dubai Internet City - Dubai, UAE

I cannot seem to open your attachment.

Bought my external at Radio Shack. The external unit cost $29, and the adapter was $10. Be careful with the adapters. Have the guy open it and make sure it fits right. Mine was for a motorola, and didn't have a black bushing around the base that others on the same rack did. The others didn't fit, but the one minus bushing did.

Sorry about the file. It's my first try to upload to the XDA Site. Here's the file from one of my websites.
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/olliesshop/XDAStuff/RFConnector.pdf
Also, Thanks for the input about Radio Shack. I went there earlier and they said they didn't have anything. But it probably was the lack of knowledge of the salesman. I'll go to a different store and be more persistant. Thanks.

i had no problems saving the pdf file to my disk and opening it using acrobat reader
from the first uploading that is

Hey dadarkmcse - since you purchased one at Radio Shack that actually works . . . what's the part number? Might take a bit of the guess work out of it for the rest of us!
Thanks!

BRosenow said:
Hey dadarkmcse - since you purchased one at Radio Shack that actually works . . . what's the part number? Might take a bit of the guess work out of it for the rest of us!
Thanks!
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I knew you would ask that... and being me... i threw out the packaging. Let me swing by Radio Shack's site and see if i can find it...
17-345 is the base unit, and it was either 17-346 or 17-348 that was the cable for the unit. Try to find both at your radio snack and have the sales man open the package and plug it into the phone. The guy at the radioshack I went to was more than happy to do this, even though he had never seen my xda ii.
Good thing too - i HATE when they look at the thing and salivate all over it... quite annoying :wink:

Yea . . . I HATE when that happens. I just carry around a plastic bag to slip my i-mate into before I let anyone hold it. That way, it's 'drool proof'! :lol:

can you take some photos it?

What . . . you mean pictures of my i-mate in a plastic bag? :wink:
Oh . . . OK - I'd like to see pictures of the antenna and cable too!
Thanks dadarkmcse

I went by another Radio Shack on the way home tonight and they gave me that "Deer in the Headlight" look. They suggested going to AT&T ... arghhhh!!! I'm going to look at Radio Shack on-line and see if I can find something.

I finally found out the connector/adapter we need. I was told by my local Electronics Store / Experts that if I can get it to an SMA connector I'm all set. So after many phone calls and a few weeks of searching ... I finally found, I believe the only U.S. source for the adaptor.
This is the link to the page of the catalog http://dkc3.digikey.com/pdf/T041/0248.pdf. I ordered, from the top part of the page:
Switching Connector - #5
SMA Adaptor to Male
H2807-ND
MS-145-HRMP-A
www.digikey.com Toll-Free: 1-800-344-4539 • Phone: 218-681-6674 • Fax: 218-681-3380
I hope this works, since it cost $30.80 with postage. Now I need to go get an actual antenna that connects to SMA.

Thats the adapter, right? So what else do you need to make an antena, just coax cable?
:?

I haven't bought it yet, but my understanding is I need a Coaxial Cable with an SMA connector on one end and an antenna that attaches to the other end. I plan on buying a normal "glass mounted" type antenna, like they put on car windows and enough cable I can run it from my desk outside the window. The store I go to has a few different Car Kits that include the cable and antenna. We'll see how it goes.

Sorry to be boring, have you got a website for the type of antenna? Its just I guess????? in the UK i should be able to get the connector type from somewhere? RS or Farnells, or maybe maplins (there a bit like your Radio Shack) but the antenna I am not sure,
thanks in advance
Jim

as said up top www.cpc.co.uk they have loads of aerials, glass mount etc. click http://custom1.farnell.com/cpc/product.asp?catalog_name=CPC+Catalogue&product_id=267273 for a page i found. I couldn't find the MS-147 on their site though.
Pete

Backpack connector pinout

I have bought a pair of faulty backpacks on ebay for my XDA IIi.
One of them is totally shot, the other kind of works but there is a bad connection on the connector that attaches to the XDA.
Does anyone have info on the pinout of this connector please?
I checked the XDA II service manual to no avail.

Hi Mr Fusion
I'm afraid not an answer but a sharing of problems - I have lost my backpack lead and can't get another. Did you find the pinout? Any ideas where I might get the connector?
Cheers
Jon

I was just looking for the pinout when I saw this post! amazing coincidence.
Anyway, I was wondering about making my own Wifi backpack, or possibly squeezing an sdio wifi card inside the case on this connector.
But, I need the pinout before I can even hope to try.
To the guy with the dead backpack, how much did you pay? want to sell it cheap to me to experiment with?

Any of you who wants the complete kit plus 1Gb compact flash pm me.
Victor

broad connector cables broken. where can I buy?

Hello,
My bluenagel's old broad connector cables have been broken. (at least one of they)
anyone know where could I buy?
I have been searching in ebay but I haven´t found anything
thanks a lot!

What are you looking for? Sync cables? A cradle?

None of these.
The iner cables/bus/ribbons (I don't know their correct name) that conect the screen and buttons with the "mother board"
take a loook:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/images/DSC03472B-LR.JPG
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=DIS_BA_PICS
thanks a lot

Ah, I see. Sorry, I suppose I can't really help you further with that. Your best bet might be to determine which cables exactly are broken and then exchange the whole defective units, i.e. button board, screen and/or digitizer.

well do u get a white screen or a glitchy lcd with garbage on it, i had the same problem...showed the phone to a relative mines getting repaired its supposedly the ribbons so m waiting till my phone comes back....if it works out for me u can let me know ill try and get hold of those cables and send em to u....the shopkeepers tell me to not spend on the cables cuz its pretty useless! they break easily again!

T-Mobile Dash 3 in one Headphone Adapter Problem

Okay, so I using a dash on Kavana 6.1 ver: 4.1.13.41
anyways, I bought a 3 in one adapter off eBay the other day with an htc label (supposedly designed for the dash) I also own a regular mini usb to 3.5mm adapter which also doesn't seem to work....the phone will play the music regularly and not pick up that their is a headphone piece connected being either a 3.5mm or 2.5mm though it does pick up if a charger is connected through the 3in one...Could this be the Kavanna could it be the mini usb port? I've tried different headphones...I actually used to listen to music when I first bought the phone when back when but stopped for quite a while....well hope someone can help me thank you!!

i have the kavana 6.1 rom with a 3 in 1 and also a stand alone 3.5mm converter and both work.
its either one of 2 things. 1. you have a hosed mini usb jack on your excalibur ( this does happen from time to time) 2. you have bad adapters not made for the excalibur. I have never bought stuff like this off of ebay, but thats my preference. I bought both of my adapters from here: http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000048&products_id=5314
and here:
http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000048&products_id=5414
i know its more pricey than ebay or other sites, but sometimes you get what you pay for.

This is just what i think, i have seen a ton of adaptors that do 3.5mm conversion and they fit in but they do not work, they are for motorola's and other same type adaptor plug in's, so this 3 in 1 adaptor is most likely not an HTC one, ebay is the worse place to buy an adaptor as u can see its probably not an HTC capible adaptor.
Buy Adaptors only from HTC if u wanna be 100% cause anything else is not 100%
Or in person so you can test.

i have bought from ebay for cheap $1.9 (usb to 3.5mm) and they work fine.

well you got lucky not like our fellow poster, there are a ton out there that are fake ones that wont work, just wanna stay away from those anyway you can.

Amazon is where i get my stuff from. I never had any problems with anything.
Hey I got a question for yew folks:
Does the motorola usb headphones work on the dash? Im an audiophile and cheap sounding headphones (like htc's) drive me nuts. The motorola ones I had for the razr and slivr sounded pretty good but I would like to know for sure if they work before I go and spend my money on a pair.

Thanks for all the replies everyone, first off Pudge what was that you said about the mini usb being bad? (how does that work exactly?)
...PPC I think I'll definitely have to stop by the T-mobile store today see if they carry H.T.C. headphones try those out..
..Phatman I have read somewhere that yes you can use the Motorola on the Dash (but it might of been just the bluetooth ones...possibly..)

well actually its not really about the mini usb port being bad, but more of it being stuck in one mode or another. i have seen people here post that the mini usb always being stuck in the headphone mode or never going into headphone mode no matter what. either way, it doesn't prevent you from charging the phone, just that it prevents you from utilizing the port in all the ways that its capable of performing. Usually i've seen the only fix being replacement of the phone (unless you're really good at replacing internal components of the phone yourself).

timepassman said:
i have bought from ebay for cheap $1.9 (usb to 3.5mm) and they work fine.
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i did to works fine

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i did to works fine
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What's the thread title "I bought a 3.5mm adapter rom Ebay & it works"
All pudge was stating is that you take a chance when buying something off ebay not all 3.5mm jacks are the same many manufacturers of phones make the connection slightly different. "You will see the black bits on the plug they can be moved about" <- Simplified
No need to post i got one and ok