Develop Bugs

Backpack connector pinout

I have bought a pair of faulty backpacks on ebay for my XDA IIi.
One of them is totally shot, the other kind of works but there is a bad connection on the connector that attaches to the XDA.
Does anyone have info on the pinout of this connector please?
I checked the XDA II service manual to no avail.

Hi Mr Fusion
I'm afraid not an answer but a sharing of problems - I have lost my backpack lead and can't get another. Did you find the pinout? Any ideas where I might get the connector?
Cheers
Jon

I was just looking for the pinout when I saw this post! amazing coincidence.
Anyway, I was wondering about making my own Wifi backpack, or possibly squeezing an sdio wifi card inside the case on this connector.
But, I need the pinout before I can even hope to try.
To the guy with the dead backpack, how much did you pay? want to sell it cheap to me to experiment with?

Any of you who wants the complete kit plus 1Gb compact flash pm me.
Victor

In-car holders: What r u using and what's the best?

I'm looking for a holder for my Qtek 2020i.
I was thining of this: http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/5827.htm
Just wondered if anyone has used these before and if they're any good?
What's everyone else using?
I want to link my PDA to my head unit so I need it to be fairly close...also have to be able to reach it so that I can activate the Voice Command
Only prob for me is lack of dash space - I have a mkII MR2
Cheers
Wayne

I use the similiar, if not the same product that was bought from PDA Hut.
http://www.pdahut.com/store/product.php?productid=16897
It's a well made product.

forumjunky said:
I use the similiar, if not the same product that was bought from PDA Hut.
http://www.pdahut.com/store/product.php?productid=16897
It's a well made product.
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Can you tell me if this holder obstructs the headphone socket in anyway?
I want to link my PDA to the headunit in my car via the headphones socket ya see.
Cheers
Wayne

if you want the best go for brodit at www.brodit.com or
http://www.gpsforless.co.uk

forumjunky said:
I use the similiar, if not the same product that was bought from PDA Hut.
http://www.pdahut.com/store/product.php?productid=16897
It's a well made product.
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Just a quick update:
I emailed PDAHut direct with the question and got a quick response saying that there would be no problem using the headphone socket.
I placed my order yesterda (Friday) at 2pm and my PDA holder arrived this morning (Saturday) via Recorded Delivery!
I'm very, very, very happy witht he product - not fitted it to the car as yet but it's deffinately worth the money in my opinion. The suction cup is unbelievably secure (I couldn't pull it, shake it or slide it off my bedroom window once attached!)...this was a big conern for me as I drive a sports car with stiff suspension and I was concerned that the holder would just come loose when driving over uneven ground.
The item itself is posable in any number of positions and is easily adjusted via thumb screws (so no tools nesceary). Becasue it's all held in place via these screws (rather than bendable extension arms) it doesn't move once you've got it in the position you want.
I've had another look at the products I suggested in my first post and I can confirm that the one I have purchased (at a fraction of the cost by the way) is almost identical if not the same product.
Regards
Wayne

Just found this...this IS the product I got from PDAHut - note that I have the STABILO holder so it can't be swiveled - I think PDAHut sell both types though.
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/hrmounts.php
Cheers
Wayne

PDAMODS - MDA3 Mount
Hi All,
Probably too late now but here is the link for the Vehicle Mount I'm using.. Does the job perfectly, doesn't block the Headphone Socket and mantains a secure environment!
http://www.pdamods.com/proddetail.asp?prod=A11XDA2SMNT&cat=113
Runs TomTom 5 too without any problems.. I'm currently using a wired GPS that plugs straight into it but this does require a power supply to it!
Hope this helps..?
Cheers

Exec - HTC Universal External Antenna

:?: I need a cable to connect to the phone antenna ports on the device - the port is smaller than the ones to be found on some mobiles (such as my old trusty Nokia 6310i) and I need to find out what type of connector is needed.
Does anyone know where a cable can be obtained or what type of connector is needed ?

I need a connector also
It took me weeks to find the special connector for my XDAII. Now I'm in the same boat for the Universal (JASJAR). I've been searching the net for a while to no avail, but hopefully I find one soon and let us know. :?

Sorry just too lazy to go through the manual so decided to ask the enlightened friends on this forum. I want to know if the antenna socket provided at the back of the Universal is for GSM signals. The GSM signal in my home room is too weak so I thought that attaching an external antenna would be beneficial to the strength of the GSM signal. But obviously even if it is so attaching an antenna would be possible only once we have found a suitable connector.
Kind Regards

I mounted an antenna outside my house
For the last 2 years (with my XDAII) I've used an antenna I ran through my outside brickwall and mounted outside my house. It helped the phone go from NO reception to a pretty good signal. I still have the cable running to my office/desk and all I need now is the connector. It has to be out there somewhere. I ended up buying my previous connector from http://digikey.com, but it ended up costing $30 ... but it was worth it. I'll do more digging today and see if I can find out more.
Oh and by the way, I was using GSM on my XDAII and the manual for the Universal says the connector (closest to the center or USB) is for GSM/GPRS.

Anyone find out what adapter fits the jasjar? My adapter for the pda2k does not fit.

I'm still looking
I've sent emails to PDAGold, HTC in Taiwan and i-Mate to not avail. I'm going to keep on looking. Obviously someone has to know.

Some progress - I've found out the connector type
The connector on the phone is a Amphenol MHC-H196.
I've posted a pdf with all the specifications of the connector on the circuit board ... http://wiki.xda-developers.com/uploads/MHCH196.pdf
Now it's just a matter of finding the correct adapter.

Well I gave up trying to find one and made my own
After spending many hours looking and getting an official "not available" from digikey.com (who I got my XDAII adapter from) and imate techsupport ... I decided to make my own. I haven't been able to test it with my Jasjar yet, though, since it's still being repaired at Topp Solutions in Miami.
I ended up using 26 gage solid wire (which is .4mm diameter) and a .062 inch (1.6mm) diameter female pin connector. This is smaller than the diameter of the connector on the phone, which is actually 1.82mm. Although, I expect it to expand slightly (permanently) when it's slid over the connector on the phone. Obviously, it's very crude for now. I just want to see if it works then I might make a prettier one. I included some pictures for fun. By the way this cost me about $9 in material (which I can use for other projects) vs. $35 for the last adapter I bought for my XDAII through Digikey.

From down under , land of long white cloud...
We have had the same issue ( product known as Jas jar)
My user name in this forum is Digs also, see our discussion :
REF: http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?ForumId=18&TopicId=7105
Did you see the interesting comments made by WilsonsElectronics. HTC really stuffed up with this one.
Is there any news on this matter.
At the moment I have sent an information pack to www.pasternack.com and I am currently waiting for a response. These people do customised products. See under technical support. I will keep you friends informed.
http://www.pasternack.com/ContactUs/ContactInformation.asp

I am after an adapter to get a signal booster... www.digitalantenna.com
I talked to them about three products. there email follows
Description Part Number List Price
60dB gain repeater system 4KSBR-50U $699.95
40dB gain repeater system 4KMR-30U $559.95
Direct Connect Amplifier DA4000 $299.95
DA4000:
The DA4000 amplifier must be purchased with an antenna and cell adapter cable and is a direct-connect system. The antenna is placed on the roof and connects to the inside amplifier which with the correct adapter would then connect to the cellular device. We have many adapters for different phones and air cards. If we do not have the adapter for your type of phone or air card the other option is a wireless repeater. However the direct-connect amplifier can provide higher performance because you are directly connected to it. Please use the link at the bottom of this email to download our 2006 on-line catalog. On page 28/29 is our Cell Adapter Cables which lists the adapters per make/model of cellular phone or PC card.
Description Part Number List Price
Direct Connect Amp. DA4000 $299.95
9dB cell antenna 288-PW $129.95
Cable 340-50NM $79.95
Adapter Cable pg 28/29 $19.95
4KSBR-50U:
The 4KSBR-50U system comes with an external antenna, 50' cable, amplifier/repeater, power supply and an internal antenna. So the external antenna can be installed on the roof with the cable going to the amplifier/repeater inside the house. The internal antenna is also plugged into the amplifier/repeater and is installed inside the house. There must be 40' separation and a wall/roof/bulkhead structure between inside and outside antennas.
With a good cellular signal outside the house the 4KSBR-50U system can reach as far as 40 feet from the internal antenna. Generally the SBR can penetrate 1 or 2 inside walls only and each wall will reduce the 40 feet coverage. Also keep in mind the weaker the outside signal the closer you will need to be to the inside antenna. The 4KSBR-50U system must have a signal that is at or greater than -90db to be able to amplify/repeat it.
4KMR-30U:
The 4KMR-30U, 40dB gain dual band cellular repeater system, comes with an external antenna, 30' cable, amplifier/repeater, power supply and an internal antenna. So the external antenna can be installed on the roof with the cable going to the amplifier/repeater inside the house. The internal antenna is also plugged into the amplifier/repeater and is installed inside the house. There must be 20' separation and a wall/roof/bulkhead structure between inside and outside antennas.
With a good cellular signal outside the house the 4KMR-30U system can reach as far as approximately 18 feet from the internal antenna but will not penetrate walls. Also keep in mind the weaker the outside signal the closer you will need to be to the inside antenna. The 4KMR-30U system must have a signal that is at or greater than -90db to be able to amplify/repeat it.

Try here for antennae and adaptors
I haven't checked this very far yet but the picture seems to match...
http://www.boatersphone.com/PDAs.asp[/url]

More detail...at : http://www.boatersphone.com/Adapters.asp
Its the Nokia 359914 Multi Manufacture Cell Phone adpater, You stick a velco thing on your phone next to the internal adapter, and slide the nokia adapter into it. This is NOT a direct plug in into the External GSM jack of the HTC Universal device ( ie Jas Jar ). But looks like our only safe option. Not sure how the velcro thing goes on the device, the Jas Jar has a plastic back ( over the battery )???
Works on these networks, the site says : 900MHz/1800MHz/1900MHz/2100MHz networks
..."This is an extremely effective new kind of adapter, it works on a similar rinciple to the clip-on adapter, with the exception that it is tuned to work on more frequencies. We have tested it on all UK frequencies including 3G, and we know it works on the American 1900MHz band as well! This adapter was originally designed to work on Nokias but we have successfully used it on other makes of phones, making this a (hopefully!) truly universal adapter. It will work on 'candy-bar' style phones which have an internal antenna.
This adapter is two-piece, one piece is a velcro pad which has sticky-back plastic on it, and sticks onto the back of the phone over the internal antenna. The second piece is the adapter itself, which has velcro over the inductive plate, so it can be easily removed, and has a lead so it can be connected to an external antenna. '...

Where did you get the Information that it's a velcro adaptor?
reading the Page it says:
Plug-In Adaptor for O2 XDA Exec
More details about plug-in adaptor in general:
This kind adapter is called a plug-in adapter, for the simple reason that what it does is plug straight into the port on the back of the phone, and provides a cable connection to the antenna.
The plug-in adapter is preferred to the clip-on adpter, as it works on any mobile network.
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I wrote them an email i'll keep you informed.

If you can get a plug in one then fine, but further down the page is where I get my info from. I highlighted in bold, just in case you cant see good.(Ha).
I'll bet the Jas Jar gets allocated the valcro one. As my experience is that its very difficult to find a plug one for the Jas Jar /O2 Exec.

Although I learly can read your bold text and being able to find this on on the page i really have no clue where you find the connection between the velco apdator and the O2 XDA Exec since it's marked with plug-in adaptor. Well we will see.

My apologies, yes "Plug-in Adapters", for "XDA, XDA II, XDA IIs, XDA Exec "..
BUT be carefull, the GSM external jack is very weak as per Wilson Electronic comments. Post me any confirmations of the plug in adapter working.

'Universal' adapters that apparently plug in
Their News page has a paragraph that describes a new adapter for various flavours of the Universal (although calling it Wizard to add to the confusion!) and warns against plugging in incompatible adapters. The adapters page lists the HTC devices under 'Plug-In' not 'Clip-on'. So that's why I posted.
I sent an Email after posting here, but it sounds like they are a small outfit so be patient!
Be careful with making adapters for transmitting antennae. For receiving antennae you can get away with almost anything, but for a transmitter a bad match on a connector will create reflections and emissions; it might even damage the transmitter (don't know if that's a problem here). If you don't see a clear increase on the reception bars with a well placed antenna, the adapter may be sending all the power straight back, doubling the voltage at the transmitter. Make sure everything is matched to 50R.
Nick (gave up my amateur radio license long ago since long hours in the loft didn't fit with married life!) :wink:

Reply from 'Boatersphone'
Can you do an adaptor from the obscure Amphenol MHCH196 socket on the HTC Universal Windows PDA phone? (XDA Exec, MDA Pro etc.). Presumably the other end is an FME f connector for the 'standard' phone antennas. Or alternatively the other end is a portable (non-mounted) antenna on 1800/2100MHz.
Many thanks
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Hello,
Yes we have an adapter to connect the HTC Universal to one of our antennae and you are correct about the FME F connection. We don't supply an adapter direct to an antennae, only in a two-part system via an FME connection, to allow for changing of either part.
If you require a portable antenna we have a 3G/Multiband antenna with a magnetic base (on 850/900/1800/1900/2100MHz frequencies) or we have a T-bar window antenna, which is 3G/Triband, although this doesn't produce as good results as the magnetic antenna.
Regards,
Arthur @ BPC

Any news? they don't seem to answer anymore. I wrote him two times. Anybody in contact with him?

Messing about in Boats
They advise to be patient, I bet we've flooded them with enquiries and they quote two days to reply!

Working HTC universal's main board!!

I am looking for a working HTC universal's main board 99HAU0XX-02.

I am as well. Please post here if you have a spare available...

me too...even if the miniusb is broken.

Just thought i'd bump this up cos i'm looking for one now. As cheap as poss (free)

I got one with a broken screen only...offers?

ok, i'll let you know some time next week

I got an functionable MDA PRO,
if anybody is interested, please make an offer.
Cya
MB

I have no idea how much a motherboard would cost - fire a price and if it makes sense for me, I'm interested as my headphone jack is gone and I can't find it on its own.

Nice little store
If you would like to replace your main board there is a store by my house that has every peice that you need to build a new one. I live in taiwan. The parts range from $1.00-10.00. So, if you are in need of a special part let me know, maybe I can help.

Hi Cobb,
That would be great - I'm really looking for a headphone jack port as mine's gone and I had to eliminate it as the Uni was under the impression I had headphones connected at all time.
If you can check the price of this out, it would be cool.
Tks.

Sure
JZEE said:
Hi Cobb,
That would be great - I'm really looking for a headphone jack port as mine's gone and I had to eliminate it as the Uni was under the impression I had headphones connected at all time.
If you can check the price of this out, it would be cool.
Tks.
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It is around $1.00-2.00 US. Just to let you know I used the female headphone connection from my Walkman. I will try to post a complete price list for the universal.
The parts are really cheap here, but sending them is not. Does anyone have any ideas how I could send replacement parts, and keep the price reasonable.
Any part that you want to replace should be less than $5.00 with exception to the screen, and the external housing.
For those of you with a broken USB female jack. While replacing mine I noticed that USB's are pretty standard. There seems to be two common types, I used the one from a 4port usb hub. I not had any problems yet.
I hope this helps. The prices I listed are for a single piece.

I have a full unit, everything is fine except for a usb connector that is FUBAR, Looking to get rid of the entire unit so I can buy a new one, shoot me a PM if anyone would like to purchase it or are selling a working unit.

cobb78 said:
It is around $1.00-2.00 US. Just to let you know I used the female headphone connection from my Walkman. I will try to post a complete price list for the universal.
The parts are really cheap here, but sending them is not. Does anyone have any ideas how I could send replacement parts, and keep the price reasonable.
Any part that you want to replace should be less than $5.00 with exception to the screen, and the external housing.
For those of you with a broken USB female jack. While replacing mine I noticed that USB's are pretty standard. There seems to be two common types, I used the one from a 4port usb hub. I not had any problems yet.
I hope this helps. The prices I listed are for a single piece.
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Hi Cobb, how about that price list??? Just my guess, if parts are SO cheap, no transportation can be expensive!!! LOL
Anyways, what I´m looking for, is a new MoBo, you have any prices for them???
Thanks in advance, and congrats to all knowledged and not so knowledged ppl in this forum.
Willy

User665 said:
I have a full unit, everything is fine except for a usb connector that is FUBAR, Looking to get rid of the entire unit so I can buy a new one, shoot me a PM if anyone would like to purchase it or are selling a working unit.
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User665, in what "cosmetic" and use state is the machine?? If you are "reasonable" I could be interested... Let me know things.
Willy

bump
Hi, I am bumping this thread as I am in need of the mainboard now. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Hi,
I'm searching a motherboard too, if it's 128 Mb ugraded it's better for me, or if someone has a 128 Mb uni full working or with a broken LCD... please let me know.
I've made a new thread on the marketplace section too, you can write there or send me a PM. This is the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532553

i have a htc universal mobo with a broken mini usb connector, it cant be repaired, some of the copper pads are missing, but the mobo still works fine

i have a G3 universal (imate jasjar) motherboard with damaged phone in and damaged screen. if someone want this let me know and make a offer. motherboard functions are ok..i see the content of the smartphon if i connect it to pc with usb cable.
i'm italian.

External aerial for O2 Orbit

Hi, had a look in the manual and a quick search here but I can't find out what kind of adaptor I need to connect a FME terminated external aerial to my Orbit. TIA.
Great forum, very helpful BTW (just found out about dual sim holders... )

Aerial
Hi The specification for an external aerial seems to be confusing - it took me a long time to actually get something that fits. John, at 'GPS Antenna only' in Ebay, has got GPS aerials that do, and may be able to help you further

Thanks but I couldn't find anything on Ebay -- do you have a link?

Aerials
Hi. Sorry about that. That was the name of his shop. Try this.. http://search.ebay.co.uk/ws/search/MemberSearchResult?userid=londoncolour
This should take you to his shop. He really was very good when he was trying to get me a GPS aerial - we must have tried 4 or 5 different ones that according to the specifications, were 'supposed' to be correct. I know that he also contacted HTC, and what they told him was wrong as well, but John bought an Orbit himself, and eventually found the correct one. He really couldn't have done more - excellent supplier, highly recommended, and great value.

Thanks, but he just directed me to the GPS aerial he had for sale. Have contacted HTC Europe, see what they come up with.

http://www.gerry-mobilfunk.de/artik...hluss_einer_externen_Antenne_KFZ-Antenne.html
It's only in German language, but I hope it helps anyway.
As far as I know, the connector should be an MS-147-C(LP)-2

Thanks for that -- I've dropped him an email. That part number for the aerial doesn't come up much on Google...
I should qualify that: the MS-147-C(LP)-1 type does the 2 doesn't seem to exist...

Sorry, that seems to be right. I've got that information from expansys webpage.
Have a look at the data sheet
http://www.hirose.co.jp/cataloge_hp/e35801505.pdf

Hi Peter, so you think it is the 1 I'm looking for?

I've asked Hirose for a free sample of
MS-147-C(LP)-1 and MS-147-HRMJ-1 for validation.

GPS Antenna Adaptor
I was in Radiop Shack and found adaptor # 17-349 connects to the P3300 (aka Artemis) on one end and has a standard Antenna cable connector on the opposite end.
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2104006&cp
Not sure if it works as I have not connected it to a GPS antenna itself but it' gets you past the hard part (connecting to the phone)

Original GPS Antenna
Original Orbit GPS Antenna
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GPS-Antenna-f...hZ006QQcategoryZ20380QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

It was an external aerial for the phone socket I was after, but thanks anyway.