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Universal RAM memory up graded, but failed!

i tried to ask Pulm-center in HK who can do memory up grade, to add more 128mb ram.
He could add, but OS can read it at all. he tried to many modules and also many way. but still cant read it.
http://asukal.seesaa.net/article/9332478.html
But my freind got it on Dell WM5 device,
http://pocketgames.jp/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=3837&mode=thread&order=0]
Just report. <all llinks are japanese.for the pictures>
any way, my unversal has more 128mb memory inside still now,
with hoping someday OS can read it with os upgrade or something!

I'm sure it can't be an OS problem, as the Dell works fine with 256mb?

i agree that! but he has no way to do now.
he tried to his best which he could.
do u have any idea?

I think that it is and problem in chip pinout.
To get full 128mb RAM on HTC Magician you need to shortcut some pins by resistor... i think that is same situation here with HTC Universal.
At same time for upgrading hx4700 you do not need to shortcut anything.
P.S. Did you disassemble your HTC Universal? Can you tell us LCD part number?

I want to do a Ram up-grade to try it on my Jasjar.
Can anyone please tell me how to do it?? and where I can find the link to downoad it ?? I tried through the pasted links in the beginning of this forum but unfortunately my Japanese language is not good enough to know where to click.
Need your help please.
Regards,

tupisdin said:
I think that it is and problem in chip pinout.
To get full 128mb RAM on HTC Magician you need to shortcut some pins by resistor... i think that is same situation here with HTC Universal.
At same time for upgrading hx4700 you do not need to shortcut anything.
P.S. Did you disassemble your HTC Universal? Can you tell us LCD part number?
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he <palm Center HK> has many expierenses for memory upgrade,
he have done Magician also. he explaned to me about the short cut on the cercuite, also tried. but cant! also tried many kinds of Memory modules on it. sill cant.
about LCD, we didnt disassemble that. sorry no information.
enlarge photo<but not abour LCD>
http://www.asukal.jp/Jasjar/PB081087.JPG
To Mr,khaledelfeki>>in my site, no instruction how to do it.
Just reported the results, because it was not done bymyself.

Hi Asukal,
maybe the RAM size is hardcoded in nk.exe (kernel).
Same as it is hardcoded on Himalaya... If you do the RAM upgrade on Himalaya and then you put bigger RAM chips on it, it will use just the amount hardcoded in nk.exe.
buzz

buzz_lightyear said:
Hi Asukal,
maybe the RAM size is hardcoded in nk.exe (kernel).
Same as it is hardcoded on Himalaya... If you do the RAM upgrade on Himalaya and then you put bigger RAM chips on it, it will use just the amount hardcoded in nk.exe.
buzz
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thanks! so it means have to edit NK.exe,right?
so do u have any idea to do??

Asukal said:
thanks! so it means have to edit NK.exe,right?
so do u have any idea to do??
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Since the second 64MB is mapped, you can try
to read from it directly, overwrite it with some pattern and reread to check if it works.

Why the hell do you want more ram???
Ive never used 64meg ram, even on my XDAII !
I wanted to remove 64 on the old XDAII, you realise it will dramatically cut battery life having more right?

Pyrofer said:
Why the hell do you want more ram???
Ive never used 64meg ram, even on my XDAII !
I wanted to remove 64 on the old XDAII, you realise it will dramatically cut battery life having more right?
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ya, i guess you english or 1 byte language user can not understand us.
we need to use japanese and chinese on this device,
Font and wince.nls, and also Japanese / chinese SIP waste much more
Strage Momory than you expect.
we can use only 30MB and some for the space to install something on WM5. even Program Memory has more space, we couldnt adjust it with slider to give ,more Storage memory. this is the prblem of WM5.

cr2 said:
Asukal said:
thanks! so it means have to edit NK.exe,right?
so do u have any idea to do??
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Since the second 64MB is mapped, you can try
to read from it directly, overwrite it with some pattern and reread to check if it works.
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Do you think the NK.exe from Dell Axim v50 WM5 model will work to
over right to Unversal?
Because Dell device with WM5 already reconized another RAM.

Asukal said:
Do you think the NK.exe from Dell Axim v50 WM5 model will work to
over right to Unversal?
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Of course not. It is a different hardware setup.
nk.exe is not just "some" .exe you can arbitrarily
change

Ahha, I didnt realise the international fonts and input stuff wasted so much ram...
Rember that the two types of memory on universal are completely different chips now!
Storage is FLASH only and Program is RAM only.
That is why there can be no slider between them.
Adding ram chips will only ever increase the program memory.
to increase the Storage you would have to change the flash chip (dont think you can add one) or gain access to the hidden Extrom.
This is the reason the memory slider was dropped, you cant change between chips/types of memory like that.
Shame, but for the other benefits its worth it.

Asukal said:
about LCD, we didnt disassemble that. sorry no information.
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Can you dump the boardID instead?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UniversalBoardIDs
My ID is 0x5, and this value differs for
Sony and Samsung LCDs.
It can be calculated if you do in haret:
pd 0x10000118 0x4

Cr2 >>thanks,,,,, you are right, i will find way!
Pyroper >> i would rather be in 1 byte world on next life!
that is better solution,right? :lol:

cr2 said:
Asukal said:
about LCD, we didnt disassemble that. sorry no information.
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Can you dump the boardID instead?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UniversalBoardIDs
My ID is 0x5, and this value differs for
Sony and Samsung LCDs.
It can be calculated if you do in haret:
pd 0x10000118 0x4
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Tried but nothing happened???

Asukal said:
Tried but nothing happened???
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Sorry, it was an interactive command.
The command
pdump uniasic 0x10000000 0x200
will create the 'uniasic' file with the registers contents.

cr2 said:
Asukal said:
Tried but nothing happened???
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Sorry, it was an interactive command.
The command
pdump uniasic 0x10000000 0x200
will create the 'uniasic' file with the registers contents.
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i got it but that name was not "uniasic", but "0x200"
here it is

Asukal said:
i got it but that name was not "uniasic", but "0x200"
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You are right, the things are a bit messed up
in the program and the docs.
here it is
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Don't see anything

Critical Low Memory

hi guys! i successfully translated my japanese softbank x01ht to english and now it;s running ok... the only problem is when i try to install games on it, it installs the game but the game doesn't work and "critical low memory" always appears on the screen and my unit stops responding... any suggestions.... thank you

maybe ...
not so precise what you are saying but :
- check that you really closed all other applications. As you might know, closing an app. in ppc does't really close it. There are freewares to do that (like pbar).
- you can run pocket mecanic professionnal, there is a section free RAM. (free like more bear not like free bear)
- I think there are some tweaks to allow a different RAM allocation (increase screen performance) You would need a register editor. need to be confirm though...
- I don't know if CPU speed can improve RAM use. BUt if it does, do overclock your little diamond.
voila monsieur,
hope that helped
cheers

dam said:
not so precise what you are saying but :
- check that you really closed all other applications. As you might know, closing an app. in ppc does't really close it. There are freewares to do that (like pbar).
- you can run pocket mecanic professionnal, there is a section free RAM. (free like more bear not like free bear)
- I think there are some tweaks to allow a different RAM allocation (increase screen performance) You would need a register editor. need to be confirm though...
- I don't know if CPU speed can improve RAM use. BUt if it does, do overclock your little diamond.
voila monsieur,
hope that helped
cheers
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i'll try that... thanks for the answer... though i'm not sure if i could get it right because i'm really new at this....

Dell Axim X50v WM6 A02 RTM with 0Mb PP (Discussion/Download)

I opened a new thread to discuss the effects of Maglite's WM6 A02 ROM with 0Mb PAGEPOOL and to not overload his own thread.
All info transfered from the original post and waiting for feedback.
Test this please:
- Check if Filesys.exe hits harder or smoother.
- Check if there is any diference in responsivness(faster/slower)
- Install apps to your Main Storage and test
Note: All of the hard work was made by Maglite_Rus, i just changed the PagePool for testing.
Until now, all is good. My Axim is fast, Filesys.exe appears,but very smooth and briefly.
Zeus_Alex
Uploading WM6 with 0Mb Pagepool to rapidshare... It will be up in a few moments for who wants to try it...
It has no changes yet, but its very good... In my spare time, will change some stuff, adding some more, removing a few stuff and then ill tell you guys whats new or not...
Greets from Portugal..
Edited: Now its the right link, the 0Mb PP rom..Ehehe...
http://rapidshare.com/files/57962070...o_0Mb.rar.html
Its the same procedure to flash.
Copy both files to root of SD Card with Fat32, press Wireless + Power + Soft reset to start...etc, etc...
Test it and tell something... I tested in 2 different X50v's and had diferent results in both..Mine has near 40Mb of free RAM and its quite fast, with no problems changing from one app to another.
The other one i flashed, had only 36Mb of Free Ram and it was as fast as mine...I dont understand why the Free RAM is diferent from one to another and with the same rom...Strange..lol...
P.S. - Try it at your own risk.. dont want to be blamed or flamed if anything goes wrong...
Greets again from Portugal...
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I instaled 0mb pp version on my axim and only have 30 mb free.
When finishing instalation, first time of use I experimented a very low speed, and filesys.exe was stuck at ~50% of processor for several minutes.
Then work fine, not too fast, but fine, with wisbar installed work better.
I still have the filesys problem, 3 times on the day, for severals minutes the processor at ~50%.
I've give to 0 pp few more days.

Good try, but my guess is that when you set the pagepool to 0, it is like to let windows mobile o/s decide what pagepool is suitable for your axim. and the decision is dynamic. That explains why sometime you get 34MB free ram while the other times you get 30MB free ram.
Rember what windows xp does when you let xp decide its Virtual Memory on its own.

jianxiongchen said:
Good try, but my guess is that when you set the pagepool to 0, it is like to let windows mobile o/s decide what pagepool is suitable for your axim. and the decision is dynamic. That explains why sometime you get 34MB free ram while the other times you get 30MB free ram.
Rember what windows xp does when you let xp decide its Virtual Memory on its own.
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I dont think that the OS is deciding what pagepool to use, but something is happening because for me, filesys is much smoother.
But as i said, its just a test, nothing to serious, altough the rom is very stable.
But a few minutes ago i had an idea to, maybe, stop filesys.exe from hitting. A few more days and, if it works, ill release it for testing. But please, no PM's about it as this is only an idea of mine, and im going to have to rebuild the entire system..
Thank you both for your feedback.

jianxiongchen said:
Good try, but my guess is that when you set the pagepool to 0, it is like to let windows mobile o/s decide what pagepool is suitable for your axim. and the decision is dynamic. That explains why sometime you get 34MB free ram while the other times you get 30MB free ram.
Rember what windows xp does when you let xp decide its Virtual Memory on its own.
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I think like you. But by other hand, I go to settings -> memory and says Total: 61.34 mb (with pp 0mb) and 57.32 mb (with pp 4mb).

Zeus_Alex said:
But a few minutes ago i had an idea to, maybe, stop filesys.exe from hitting.
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By this, do you mean remove Filesys.exe entirely from Windows Mobile? Or are you referring to some other method of keeping Filesys.exe from firing as often?
I hope it's not the former, as removing Filesys.exe completely could seriously reduce the expected lifetime of an Axim. (as I'm sure you already know)

kriketronic said:
I think like you. But by other hand, I go to settings -> memory and says Total: 61.34 mb (with pp 0mb) and 57.32 mb (with pp 4mb).
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WHAT?!?! Are you talking about having ~60mb of free RAM???

cavyman said:
WHAT?!?! Are you talking about having ~60mb of free RAM???
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He's refering to the total of ram, not the free and available...eheh..sure it would be good having the total of 64Mb..eheh...
As for my ideia, i was thinking of another aproach on filesys.exe...not removing it completely, as the Axim could be very unstable. But i am thinking in switch it with another one...I have to make some tests an probably will damage one of my X50v's, but i think it will work...
We'll see...

cavyman said:
WHAT?!?! Are you talking about having ~60mb of free RAM???
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TOTAL!!!! When you change PP the total is modified RAM. Why?? I don't know.

kriketronic said:
TOTAL!!!! When you change PP the total is modified RAM. Why?? I don't know.
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Okay, I see now. Now that I've looked at it, it does seem strange. It's saying I have roughly 18mb of free RAM, but I'm running without any slowdowns whatsoever! It doesn't make sense, but it's hard not to like it anyway!
I'm excited to see what happens with the alternate "Filesys" that you have in mind, Zeus! I hope it doesn't brick any of your Axims though!

Ok..so, let me explain whats going up to now...
I'm testing my idea as we speak but having some dificulty. I've sucecssfully tested and make my idea work, but not all traces of compactation disapeared.
What i want is really to make compactation go away or not being noticed.
Here's how all of you can help.
I have to check the specs of all PDA's, but not Axim's, with the Filesys.exe file on it... If you dont mind, you could help.
Just install a process viewer and check if filesys.exe is running. If your system has Filesys.exe, post the specs of your machine here and, if possible, the file "Filesys.exe".
I need help from all of you to make this work. All devices could help...
Thank you.
Note: I've attached a free taskmanager tha will do...Its very good. If you dont have any, try this one.

Zeus_Alex said:
Ok..so, let me explain whats going up to now...
I'm testing my idea as we speak but having some dificulty. I've sucecssfully tested and make my idea work, but not all traces of compactation disapeared.
What i want is really to make compactation go away or not being noticed.
Here's how all of you can help.
I have to check the specs of all PDA's, but not Axim's, with the Filesys.exe file on it... If you dont mind, you could help.
Just install a process viewer and check if filesys.exe is running. If your system has Filesys.exe, post the specs of your machine here and, if possible, the file "Filesys.exe".
I need help from all of you to make this work. All devices could help...
Thank you.
Note: I've attached a free taskmanager tha will do...Its very good. If you dont have any, try this one.
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WoW, I looking forward to it.
Don't blame me if I ask a dumb question.
Since filesys.exe is a necessary process on wm device.Although it would attack by no reason.Sometimes It actually do it's job.If force to suppress the cpu usage.When filesys.exe actually doing the right thing, reading or writing rom and eat 100% cpu usage in a short while.Maybe suppress is not a good solution in this situation that causing slow down.

Rom link is dead. just letting you know

Let me tell you the correct file name to get a persistent upload:
"in_this_file__is_Chuck_Norris_you're_adverted"
Without jokes, this file is down, always that I say myself "um Im going to get..." when clic the link... If I get the file, I'll upload to another site, for sure!

Sorry abou the link guys...Maybe it was the name..lol...
I'll upload it as soon as i get my hand on my home pc..Or maybe who has the file already, may upload it too and share the link...
Very soon, i promisse you..no more filesys and slowdowns. Im working on it and right now i am posting this with one of the test X50v with a "hacked" filesys...Its not perfect yet, but will be.
I'll be in touch.
Thank you

That would be great, wait&see dont you?

just installed wm6 0mb pp, and it say total memory 61.34,in use 32.25 and 29.09mb free memory, now i am going to install programs to see how it will work then...
danijel

drakic said:
just installed wm6 0mb pp, and it say total memory 61.34,in use 32.25 and 29.09mb free memory, now i am going to install programs to see how it will work then...
danijel
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Hi.
That was quick..eheh..Im sure you will like it, but tell me the results after ok?
And one more thing, could you upload the rom to rapidshare and post a link so that other users can try? I'll have access to my pc tomorrow only and cant upload it my self..
Thank you in advance.

Zero PP don't solve "filesys problem"...
This problem associated with the type of flash ROM memory because NOR flash is too slow for writing information...

MagLite_RUS said:
Zero PP don't solve "filesys problem"...
This problem associated with the type of flash ROM memory because NOR flash is too slow for writing information...
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First of all, is a pleasure to see you post here and knowing you are reading this thread. Thank you for all the hard work.
Ok, now to the point.
I know that the PP hardly affects or resolves the compactation thread that is present in all our X50v's.
I also know that NOR is far more slow writting, but if you noticed, and im sure you did, reading is much faster and no slowdowns are present.
My idea is as simple as that. Without "bricking" our Axim's, im trying to implement faster speeds writting blocks of NOR.
Thats why im testing it myself and not sharing it for now. If theres any chance of bricking it, it will brick only mine and no one elses Axim. Once i am certain of the results, i'll post here.
For now, just testing and adjusting...
Greets

Asus P535 128MB mod?

Does anyone know anything about this?
In this thread for the P525 someone says his forum has modded the P525/P535/P735 to support 128MB ram, but the link appears to be in Chinese.
Someone else says s/he's tried the mod but from what I gather, it would need both a hardware and software mod?
Thanks in advance!
Edit: It appears it indeed needs a hardware mod, but seeing how Google Translate translates cellphone into mobile home (I think) I can't be too sure, it says you need to replace the two 32MB ram chips with 64MB's ?

[ROM] Asus P565/O2 XDA Zest WM6.5 28232 (RE-UPLOADED to MU)+BLADE0RZ KITCHEN

RE-UPLOADED
I've cooked a Rom for the Asus Zest Build 28232.
Download link below
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AHK4D9NF
Mirror: http://ul.to/xvu21b
It seems to be faster than previous builds. ~44 MB RAM free on first boot.
MS online services/widgets removed.
Give the interface some time to load at startup, before pressing Start or other buttons, or you might get a Shell32 crash (nothing major, anyways).
In Program Files you will find two empty folders: "Finger keyboard" and SIP change" (these were part of the Blade0rz kitchen on which I cooked and forgot to remove); just delete if not needed.
Blade0rz kitchen reupped at
http://rapidshare.com/files/395174335/P565_Kitchen.rar.html
Thanks
Genci

It's work fine, mate... Good job.
Just remove google and asus soft for next rel.
Best regards.

Thanks, Zen 67.
what "google" you refer to?

genci said:
Thanks, Zen 67.
what "google" you refer to?
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"Google maps" - in ASUS_ROM.
This is very fast build. I think it's twice fast than 28205. After some reg tweaks I got near 50MB free RAM at start.

I didn't explore reg tweaks possibilities... Anyways, i'm really new to all this cooking staff. Can you share the tweaks you mentioned?
Also kindly specify Asus soft to be removed... I would'n want to remove something I shouldn't.
Cheers

Basically, it's not "tweaks".
I am an old-fashioned user, and I don't use Titanium. So I don't need many plug-ins.
First, I remove every unnecessary registry keys for plug-ins.
Second, I remove content of regkeys for "ErorReporting", and every similar unnecessary (for me) service (BtHID, Vindows Live, IPv6 and so on).
About Asus software.
I am not sure, but maybe AsusZip and Network Settings (which is WM6.1 - maybe). I first thought of Asus dialer, but it is a dialer wit VideoCall capability, so we need it.
I think you don't need to remove any regkeys, coz the "tweaks" are for my customization only.
In general it is a good idea to build a "basic and full" release... but it's a time-consuming job.
P.S. After removing unnecessary services&plug-ins, the stand-by time increases about 2 times...

Thanks for the ROM genci! It works flawlessly and my MMS works again! I installed a couple of the O2 specific cabs to get the network settings, USSD and emergency call settings set up. If any body else wants these cabs you can find them in the Zest Upgrade Pack on the Blade0rz ROM thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=551379
Does this ROM have User Configuration (UC) built in? I know the original one from the kitchen you are using did (it was one way to load the Zest Upgrade Pack automatically). Any idea?

Thanks, agitate! I'm glad to hear you liked and you are using my rom.
I've never used UC; you are right, I used Blade0rz kitchen that should have UC.
I just ported the system, without touching anything further (OEM). In fact i would like to explore more on removing Asus soft from the OEM misc folder, without damaging functionality of the ROM, just to free some more RAM, mainly for using it with some more fancy UI, like the memory hungry SPB Mobile Shell.
Can you advise on the above?
I'm planning to cook a 23544 ROM (issued the last couple of days). Do you have any info on which is better, 23xxx vs 28xxx.
Thanks
Genci

Cheers everyone!
It would be very useful to me if you provide some feedback on the rom.
Cheers
Genci

genci said:
removing Asus soft from the OEM misc folder, without damaging functionality of the ROM, just to free some more RAM, mainly for using it with some more fancy UI, like the memory hungry SPB Mobile Shell.
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Unless the ASUS software is running in the background then you aren't going to free any RAM by removing it. Only ROM for installing other programs in. Right?
genci said:
I'm planning to cook a 23544 ROM (issued the last couple of days). Do you have any info on which is better, 23xxx vs 28xxx.
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I used to follow Da_G's release thread, but, as you probably know, if you stop reading it for more than 10 seconds, you find yourself 6 billion posts out of date. I remember being very excited when the COM8 branch started, but it would seem that the COM5 (235xx) branch is the most active at the moment. Sorry I can't be of more help.
I've been using your ROM for nearly a week now without any problems whatsoever. One weird thing I noticed is that there are a load of cabs in \asus_rom that haven't been installed as part of the initial ROM setup. Google maps is in there and also the Network Settings cabs (which I installed the O2 version of separately after noticing that they were missing). Is there something missing from your ROM setup that has stopped this first boot install from working. Or did it just not run on my device? I started the install and then got distracted and when I came back it was sat on the Screen Setup page waiting for my input, so maybe I missed something. Any ideas?
Thanks again for all your hard work! It's appreciated.

They were part of the UC, which I removed, but without removing those files.
So don't worry, you didn't miss anything... I did.
I'll try to address in other releases, if necessary..
Cheers
Genci

almost same
genci said:
Thanks, agitate! I'm glad to hear you liked and you are using my rom.
I've never used UC; you are right, I used Blade0rz kitchen that should have UC.
I just ported the system, without touching anything further (OEM). In fact i would like to explore more on removing Asus soft from the OEM misc folder, without damaging functionality of the ROM, just to free some more RAM, mainly for using it with some more fancy UI, like the memory hungry SPB Mobile Shell.
Can you advise on the above?
I'm planning to cook a 23544 ROM (issued the last couple of days). Do you have any info on which is better, 23xxx vs 28xxx.
Thanks
Genci
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but 28232 have some font problem in chinese ,so i prefer to 23545 。actually i love English rom，faster and saving power！waiting your 23544.thank u。

gmtianxia said:
but 28232 have some font problem in chinese ,so i prefer to 23545 。actually i love English rom，faster and saving power！waiting your 23544.thank u。
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does anybody can explain differences between different builds?
why do you choose 28232 and not another one?

I already used this rom for two weeks til now, it run well to me, no problem except the error after finish instal rom that already mention in this forum.
My big concern is about total program memory dan free program memory (not storage memory), is there a way to make it bigger? because Asus P565 has default total program memory = 128MB, but in setting it show only ~89MB in total, where is the rest? Or anybody now what to do to free more memory?
Also, lag of scroll feature when read document in word mobile, and hard to select bunch of text when read incoming email (with keyboard already open). But I found both of this lag also in Rishi's rom, I don't know is this common or not, since I only try Genci's rom and Rishi's rom.
For now I used 'AE Button Plus' to remap volume key to page up and page down function for read document (long press to change sound volume), and used 'Cootek Touchpal keyboard' for select text in email (it has feature to select text with visual arrow).
Waiting your promised rom, Genci, thank for sharing.

is this taken off?
hope you could put it back on or an updated rom.
my device is hanging on me 4 times a day and im in need of a new rom

I use Rishi ROM, it isn't 100% stable but stable enough for everyday use

thanks but could somebody put this back up?

http://rapidshare.com/files/390487023/GM5_28232.rar.html

still not available

I can put it on server but which one? i don't have rapidshare account