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So the IIs's (what IS the plural of IIs??) arrived today so serious playi.... er ... product familiarisation has begun.
First off, the colour of the O2 version is very nice (I think the II is looking old fashioned already). The case is ok (I'm not a case fan, I prefer to just lug it around in my pocket).
The keyboard is probably far too fiddly to ever get used by my normal sized pinkies but the blue backlight means that it will look good next to my PS2 even without BT turned on!!!!
The software seems to be up to scratch too, they've even added a decent battery life monitor to the Active and Today screens (The Active screen actually seems fairly usefull this time round!). Not had much of a play with the additional software, apart from those that came with the latest Xda II ROM upgrade ("phone Alison" ....... why is it dialing Colin??), but the GPRS monitor is a welcome addition.
Now onto what, for me, is the most essential part - WiFi and Bluetooth. Let's not beat around the bush, the II was rubbish for both, only really with the latest ROM was the II capable of anything like decent performance with BT Headsets and still didn't support Handsfree. As for WiFi, I used a Sandisk SD card with my II and it was a pain to connect.
Whilst waiting for the release of the IIs we've been playing with iPaq 4150's which have great BT & WiFi tools that even our execs could use!
*WiFi*
Turned the phone on at home and it immediatly sniffed my network (Linksys router) and asking to connect prompted me for my encryption key followed by faultless connection to the internet. Exxxxcelent
*Bluetooth*
My boss had a Nokia CK-7W carkit fitted a few weeks ago, oh how we laughed when the latest II ROM still rendered the II useless in his car!!!! So it was with slight trepidation that we turned the ignition on only for the IIs to find/bond and work perfectly with the kit at first time of asking.
So all in all I'd say that O2 must have actually been listening to us after all (despite not updating the website FAQ's properly since the original Xda). We have a few very good contacts within O2 and had seen a fair amount of info prior to release and received assurances on the above functionality, but I have to say that I didn't believe it till I saw it all with my own eyes!!
Now for some serious testing to see if it's beauty goes further than skin deep
Re: O2 in "possibly got it right" shock
Nice report
irblinx said:
...("phone Alison" ....... why is it dialing Colin??)...
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:lol: similar experience when my friend was trying out the Fonix voice stuff on his XDA II. We were in stitches at his attempts to phone my mobile (with "Phone Dave Mobile") and it either not understanding or coming up with a suggestion which was hard to see why it thought it sounded like it. It even suggested a number for my friend's expletive of "Oh f**k this" :roll:
lol,fonix is hours of fun for all the family ........... cos it could ring any one of them when you're trying to phone your boss!
The next big test for the IIs will be the built in BT phone kit in the 5 series BMW, hopefully one of our directors will be around today to give it a go.
does the bluetooth in new XDA IIs support audio through your headset?
it would be great if it did, but i doubt it
WiFi / gprs bridging
Can the gprs internet connection be shared out through the WiFi? I'd like my notebook to see it as an access point and use it's network access. Never got this to work with xdaII bluetooth and my powerbook, Apple's BT stack doesn't recognize the widcomm bt "server".
I'll buy one tomorrow if it can bridge the 802.11 and the gprs!
Audio through your headset? not sure what you're wanting it to do here but I'll list the options on the BT new connection Wizard
Hands-free/Headset Setup
ActiveSync
Browse Files on a remote device
Connect to a network
Join a personal network
Exchange Business Cards
Explore a Bluetooth device
As for sharing the GPRS connection via WiFi, it may be possible if you set the connection on the Xda to NOT connect to the internet, otherwise the WiFi settings seem to overide GPRS. Sorry not much help! Couldn't you link them up with BT instead?
GOOD NEWS though
Successfully paired up the IIs with a BMW X5's built in BT phone stuff so it's another tick in the box for O2
Can you hear your MP3's or tomtom voice through your bluetooth headset?
no
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So the IIs's (what IS the plural of IIs??) arrived today so serious playi.... er ... product familiarisation has begun.
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Hi there
great report
just a quick question..........I have been ringing o2 daily to enquire about the arrival and keep getting told that it is 'next week'........where did you get your unit from ?? I tried o2 Salisbury on Thursday and they told me that they hadn't received a release date yet !!
cheers!
The phone is out at o2 now, has been since late Thursday evening. It will not be in the stores until Wed/Thu next week.
just call up and order it. I did
Could somebody with the XDAIIs please post the extended Rom files.
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The phone is out at o2 now, has been since late Thursday evening. It will not be in the stores until Wed/Thu next week.
just call up and order it. I did
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Just rang o2....allegedly it will leave tomorrow for delivery Tuesday !!!
thanks for letting me know !
NP, what sort of a deal did they give you? (If you don't mind me asking?)
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Could somebody with the XDAIIs please post the extended Rom files.
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I would also need them... please
I ordered ours through our dedicated o2 business team at the beginning of the week, as our commodity manager sent us the product code when the launch got delayed (internal pakaging problems!). The advantages of working for a big company with a corporate o2 deal!
Price wise we don't do so well on hardware, prob cos we pay next to nothing for line rental, I think they were 350 gbp each (ever noticed how u don't pay as much attention when it's not your money?), all "in contract upgrades". I'll double check when I get to work.
Anyhoo, a big box arrived on Thurs and opening it revealed 11 cool gadgets! Still waiting for the accessories to be released though.
I'll check for the cab file later.
Could somebody with the XDAIIs please post the extended Rom files
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How to do it?
Unlock extRom using the unlock tool attached.
reset device
Browse to the extended rom from your desktop computer and copy the files - zip them up and post them here.
is extended rom unlocker the same for Himalaya and Blue Angel?
It unhides both, but it doesn't unlock the Blue Angel. But you can copy the files out of the extROM once you can see them.
Hi just to let you know, TomTom have just released their upgrade from either TomTom Navigator 2 or 3 to Navigator 5. This can be found on their website.
It costs 59 Euros and your getting the whole of europe on cd plus the new software interface.
I've just ordered my copy. Lets hope it doesn't take 5 weeks to arrive
It can be found here..
http://www.tomtom.com/shop/upgrade.php?action=pda&TT=6148c3366d84713d07ab4770d8adb478
Cheers,
lydiachris
When its says maps for the "whole of europe" I'm pretty sure this is the "major roads of europe" we had on tt3. Anyone who's used this, and I have, will know its pretty crap unless you will only ever travel on motorways and the bigger 'A' roads. I was in northern France and ended up junking it and going back to a proper map.
JD
personally, I disagree. It isn't 'dust road through an orchard' perfect, but it is a hell of a good (free) tool, which just got me door to door 1530 miles through three countries (including ferry crossing) without a hiccup.
just a thought.
BTW, Still can't access TT5...
Yeah I agree. Bloody good bargin for 40 quid!!!!!
Regarding the upgrade link, if you go to www.tomtom.com or the link above, they are doing maintence work to their website, no doubt to put a direct link on the homepage or something. Keep checking. I orderd mine this morning, so its def released
By the way the link is working again now...
http://www.tomtom.com/shop/upgrade.php?action=pda&TT=a301d69d2537572d4c3b04701cbe6039
or this one...
http://www.tomtom.com/shop/upgrade.php
Cheers.
Has anyone actuallt either eceived their upgrade yet or had confirmation it has been despatched by UPS?!?!
Mine still states "warehouse" :roll:
Mine still says 'Warehouse'
Does yours still state warehouse?!?!
Yes. Just checked.
Does anyone know when they are going to be released as many people have actually received their upgrades!!!!!
Can someone ring TomTom direct?!
Cheers,
lydiachris
Mine has now shipped - delivery by UPS within 1-2 days
Im looking for dead Blue Angels with working LCD's im willing to pay good money for it.
How much?
Robin?
ive been quoted stupid prices from O2 but i know the screens can be bought brand new from about 160 upwards...
So make me an offer for your paperweight and well negotiate
Let me ponder.
It is actually an i-mate PDA2K.
I have dropped it 2-3 times and now the case is marked and the 2 parts of the case are really quite loose.
HOWEVER the phone is actually working perfectly, well as good as any of these damn phones actually do work anyway.
Robin
Excellent... well if you look on ebay Brand new Blue Angels with Tom Tom sat nav and loads of extras are going for about £250... so a damaged one... im not sure how much they should go for but i know what im willing to strech too... get back to me with a fair price and we can barter
Hey
I have an almost new O2 XDA 2s which irritates the hell out of me at times - how much would you offer me for this? Feel free to tell me that you don't want it!!
would you consider a part exchance plus some cash?
I have an Samsung E700 in mint condition, still in original box with manual and all accesories, plus ive stuck loads of ringtones and games on there.
Im willing to add £50 ontop of that. i could show you on ebay that recently id sold the E700 for £120. well actualy i can show you how i sold it twice and got let down by both byers... which sux.
But the phone is desirable. I just cant be hassled anymore to put it back on ebay. but you could make yourself some money on it.
If you want to discuss a price with me add me to messenger [email protected] or email me.
If not just PM or post back here
thanks & hope to hear from you soon
When is this coming out in the UK. Have phoned several shops in my area and they have never even heard of it DER
Im sick of waiting for it. T mobile are just so slow at releasing anything. Why is this.
tmaxx said:
When is this coming out in the UK. Have phoned several shops in my area and they have never even heard of it DER
Im sick of waiting for it. T mobile are just so slow at releasing anything. Why is this.
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It's already here, I got my one from T-Mobile last Tuesday
WOW. What a bummer. Will ring them up now. Just thought it would be in the t mobile shops. Are you pleased with it. Would you recommend it??
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WOW. What a bummer. Will ring them up now. Just thought it would be in the t mobile shops. Are you pleased with it. Would you recommend it??
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I like it, it's a nice pda, but I haven't had a chance to properly test it so I couldn't recommed it just yet.
Im on the phone right now to t mobile. Only been waiting for 25 mins listening to some crap music.
@stand
Can u post some pictures of your Compact III ? & it's package !
Hi, does the UK T-Mobile MDA Compact III have wi-fi? I'm asking this question, because the German T-Mobile version doesn't have built-in wi-fi, but the Dutch version has it
Ordered my compact iii direct from t mobile today
It does state on t mob website that it is wifi. I do hope so.
tmaxx
Congrat's m8
I hope u can post some picture of it's package & photo's of device !
No longer compact 3 is listed on t-mob site .
Jay. Will post a pic as soon as i have taken one. Im like a big kid at the moment. I cant wait
tmaxx said:
Ordered my compact iii direct from t mobile today
It does state on t mob website that it is wifi. I do hope so.
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Ordered mine today for delivery tomorrow. I could have queued up in the Oxford St. store but decided that it'd be quicker to get it delivered.
I hope that it does have wifi but if it doesn't at least I'll save £10 per month on my hotspot access! I was offered Copilot with it but declined as I already have TomTom 6. Does anyone know if it has TomTom in ROM?
Phil
Got mine on Friday and suprisingly there is no Wi Fi built in... this is a pretty serious problem as the website states it does!
Phil,
There is no TomTom on the rom although TomTom 6 runs perfectly on it, just select COM4 under other GPS unit.
I knew it was too good to be true. No wifi is a major bummer. WHY
It now appears that despite there being stock (I know this!) there is no mention of the phone on the site after I sent an email enquiring why it was advertised as having wi-fi and not actually having it.
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Phil,
There is no TomTom on the rom although TomTom 6 runs perfectly on it, just select COM4 under other GPS unit.
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With the correct version of TTN6 loaded you get an option to select "Built-In GPS receiver" if you have loaded TTN6 on to your device can you check a couple of things:
1/ does the roller ball control the volume level?
2/ does the roller wheel control the map zoom level
3/ does the roller wheel skip through the menu pages
Only interested to see if its version specific or does TTN6 work with this hardware as a matter of fact - Mike
Picked it up from the post office today. Very nice little unit. Complicated to use, as im not used to a PDA device, but im getting used to it. Gotta get Tom Tom 6 installed ASAP.
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With the correct version of TTN6 loaded you get an option to select "Built-In GPS receiver" if you have loaded TTN6 on to your device can you check a couple of things:
1/ does the roller ball control the volume level?
2/ does the roller wheel control the map zoom level
3/ does the roller wheel skip through the menu pages
Only interested to see if its version specific or does TTN6 work with this hardware as a matter of fact - Mike
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1) Yes scrolling the rollerball left and right controls the volume for the voice from the main screen
2) No, the roller ball moves the cursor but the roller whell has no function
3) No but the roller ball allows you to scroll through the menu items.
Hi Folks,
Just wanted to say thank you for advising me so much. My TP2 has arrived and I am exploring it. It is certainly very capable. It is just a matter of working out how to do different things in the best way.
Thanks,
Sam
Great to hear you got your TP2 Sam, mine came at 10am. They are indeed awesome!
Did yours come VF branded? Cant recall if you went with VF or not in the end?
Hi Dogsi,
yes I did go for the VF branded one in the end. The branding has ended up being less of an issue than expected. The package is great and my coverage for 3G and other is far better than Orange at my home base which is important if one needs to use it as a landphone replacement for the "unlimited calls" offer !!
I am just getting used to all of its functionality. My previous mobile was a 5 year old cheap Sony Ericsson so the TP2 is a huge jump...!!!
I think I will invest in some more protective covers and a 3.5mm adaptor though.
It can be a little slow on some things, but it is not a laptop so I think it is a matter of getting skilled at getting the most out of it like learning how to use the KB and how to use the browsers most efficiently. I have found Opera good for some things and IE good for others... So we will see. Remote Desktopping is my current challenge - LogMeIn has issues although there is a workaround...
But enjoying all the new features...
Sam
Double post due to system reasons
DogsiWoo said:
Great to hear you got your TP2 Sam, mine came at 10am. They are indeed awesome!
Did yours come VF branded? Cant recall if you went with VF or not in the end?
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Just noticed that you have got a SANDISK which seems to be recommened. I has seen all the discussions on C2 versus C4 versus C6!! Views? Where did you get yours from? Does the SD disk just act as like a hard drive or is its storage available as memory for apps since the TP2 is not over indulged with memory.
Sam
Hey Sam, sorry for the delayed reply
In the end, I ordered a Transcend C6 8GB as I got it from Clove along with a HTC Car charger and a Brodit Passive holder for the car.
The card seems OK, it just tends to disappear from the phone when I have transferred fiels - I have to Power Off and turn the phone on again for it to return...
I also managed to lose the MSD-SD Adapter within 24hrs
Which package did you go for? I went for 900/Ultd+500MB+LL Calls for £35 odd inc free TP"
DogsiWoo said:
Hey Sam, sorry for the delayed reply
In the end, I ordered a Transcend C6 8GB as I got it from Clove along with a HTC Car charger and a Brodit Passive holder for the car.
The card seems OK, it just tends to disappear from the phone when I have transferred fiels - I have to Power Off and turn the phone on again for it to return...
I also managed to lose the MSD-SD Adapter within 24hrs
Which package did you go for? I went for 900/Ultd+500MB+LL Calls for £35 odd inc free TP"
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Thanks for this.
Regarding the deal I went for the 750 unlimited over 18months since I figured a quicker termination would give me earlier choices. Also I am not a big speaker!! More interested in the data... I also did it through QuidCo so hope to shortly get a £100 refund. Also looking at using skype through it off my local Wifi which will complement my GSM of which my office signal is weakish. I am trying to remove the need to make outgoing landline calls. I am a homeworker.
Cheers.