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So the IIs's (what IS the plural of IIs??) arrived today so serious playi.... er ... product familiarisation has begun.
First off, the colour of the O2 version is very nice (I think the II is looking old fashioned already). The case is ok (I'm not a case fan, I prefer to just lug it around in my pocket).
The keyboard is probably far too fiddly to ever get used by my normal sized pinkies but the blue backlight means that it will look good next to my PS2 even without BT turned on!!!!
The software seems to be up to scratch too, they've even added a decent battery life monitor to the Active and Today screens (The Active screen actually seems fairly usefull this time round!). Not had much of a play with the additional software, apart from those that came with the latest Xda II ROM upgrade ("phone Alison" ....... why is it dialing Colin??), but the GPRS monitor is a welcome addition.
Now onto what, for me, is the most essential part - WiFi and Bluetooth. Let's not beat around the bush, the II was rubbish for both, only really with the latest ROM was the II capable of anything like decent performance with BT Headsets and still didn't support Handsfree. As for WiFi, I used a Sandisk SD card with my II and it was a pain to connect.
Whilst waiting for the release of the IIs we've been playing with iPaq 4150's which have great BT & WiFi tools that even our execs could use!
*WiFi*
Turned the phone on at home and it immediatly sniffed my network (Linksys router) and asking to connect prompted me for my encryption key followed by faultless connection to the internet. Exxxxcelent
*Bluetooth*
My boss had a Nokia CK-7W carkit fitted a few weeks ago, oh how we laughed when the latest II ROM still rendered the II useless in his car!!!! So it was with slight trepidation that we turned the ignition on only for the IIs to find/bond and work perfectly with the kit at first time of asking.
So all in all I'd say that O2 must have actually been listening to us after all (despite not updating the website FAQ's properly since the original Xda). We have a few very good contacts within O2 and had seen a fair amount of info prior to release and received assurances on the above functionality, but I have to say that I didn't believe it till I saw it all with my own eyes!!
Now for some serious testing to see if it's beauty goes further than skin deep
Re: O2 in "possibly got it right" shock
Nice report
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...("phone Alison" ....... why is it dialing Colin??)...
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:lol: similar experience when my friend was trying out the Fonix voice stuff on his XDA II. We were in stitches at his attempts to phone my mobile (with "Phone Dave Mobile") and it either not understanding or coming up with a suggestion which was hard to see why it thought it sounded like it. It even suggested a number for my friend's expletive of "Oh f**k this" :roll:
lol,fonix is hours of fun for all the family ........... cos it could ring any one of them when you're trying to phone your boss!
The next big test for the IIs will be the built in BT phone kit in the 5 series BMW, hopefully one of our directors will be around today to give it a go.
does the bluetooth in new XDA IIs support audio through your headset?
it would be great if it did, but i doubt it
WiFi / gprs bridging
Can the gprs internet connection be shared out through the WiFi? I'd like my notebook to see it as an access point and use it's network access. Never got this to work with xdaII bluetooth and my powerbook, Apple's BT stack doesn't recognize the widcomm bt "server".
I'll buy one tomorrow if it can bridge the 802.11 and the gprs!
Audio through your headset? not sure what you're wanting it to do here but I'll list the options on the BT new connection Wizard
Hands-free/Headset Setup
ActiveSync
Browse Files on a remote device
Connect to a network
Join a personal network
Exchange Business Cards
Explore a Bluetooth device
As for sharing the GPRS connection via WiFi, it may be possible if you set the connection on the Xda to NOT connect to the internet, otherwise the WiFi settings seem to overide GPRS. Sorry not much help! Couldn't you link them up with BT instead?
GOOD NEWS though
Successfully paired up the IIs with a BMW X5's built in BT phone stuff so it's another tick in the box for O2
Can you hear your MP3's or tomtom voice through your bluetooth headset?
no
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So the IIs's (what IS the plural of IIs??) arrived today so serious playi.... er ... product familiarisation has begun.
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Hi there
great report
just a quick question..........I have been ringing o2 daily to enquire about the arrival and keep getting told that it is 'next week'........where did you get your unit from ?? I tried o2 Salisbury on Thursday and they told me that they hadn't received a release date yet !!
cheers!
The phone is out at o2 now, has been since late Thursday evening. It will not be in the stores until Wed/Thu next week.
just call up and order it. I did
Could somebody with the XDAIIs please post the extended Rom files.
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The phone is out at o2 now, has been since late Thursday evening. It will not be in the stores until Wed/Thu next week.
just call up and order it. I did
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Just rang o2....allegedly it will leave tomorrow for delivery Tuesday !!!
thanks for letting me know !
NP, what sort of a deal did they give you? (If you don't mind me asking?)
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Could somebody with the XDAIIs please post the extended Rom files.
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I would also need them... please
I ordered ours through our dedicated o2 business team at the beginning of the week, as our commodity manager sent us the product code when the launch got delayed (internal pakaging problems!). The advantages of working for a big company with a corporate o2 deal!
Price wise we don't do so well on hardware, prob cos we pay next to nothing for line rental, I think they were 350 gbp each (ever noticed how u don't pay as much attention when it's not your money?), all "in contract upgrades". I'll double check when I get to work.
Anyhoo, a big box arrived on Thurs and opening it revealed 11 cool gadgets! Still waiting for the accessories to be released though.
I'll check for the cab file later.
Could somebody with the XDAIIs please post the extended Rom files
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How to do it?
Unlock extRom using the unlock tool attached.
reset device
Browse to the extended rom from your desktop computer and copy the files - zip them up and post them here.
is extended rom unlocker the same for Himalaya and Blue Angel?
It unhides both, but it doesn't unlock the Blue Angel. But you can copy the files out of the extROM once you can see them.
o2 have offered me an upgrade from my IIi to the orbit. As some of you have been using the orbit for a little while is it all it's cracked up to be?
and does tomtom work ok with the orbit and the built in gps reciever?
cheers guys
Go for it you will love it if not sell it many will be after it if you don't like it.
Or you could wait for the zinc (feb 07 or so) if you can do without the gps in-built?
There is an issue with MicroSD's that possibly dosnt effect all units. See other threads.
Apart from that and if you clock it to 250MHz it works extremely well. I loved my BlueAngel but even my old stylus feels fat now. The jog dial / track ball is mega and internal GPS a breeze. The slower CPU also has the benefit of longer battery life.
I am currently looking for one for a friend on eBay and they are going for £300+ so if you dont like it can always sell and keep old phone...
ps. I use a Sandisk UltraII 2gb MicroSD which may speed up map access etc, its generally slightly slower than my 500MHz BlueAngel but no problem.
I'm a new user of the Xda Orbit, my first WM PDA after owning a tapwave zodiac and the first phone I can really type text messages on. For a PDA it's light, snappy (my last wm device was a Compaq Aero 15xx), has an excellent battery life and the GPS works a treat.
The biggest benefit is the size, though, compared to the other similarly featured Xda's in the o2 lineup this one is TINY, it dropped the jaws of my techy colleagues to the floor.
I find TomTom to be pretty fast and accurate getting a fix, route calculations are fast enough, but it is a little slow to start up initially- overclocking helps but not much. I have overclocked to 260 for PocketSNES and on other occasions but find it normally fast enough to be comfortable - quite a feat with a meer 200mhz!
I'd say go for it, I'm posting this message from Mine now! got 3 tabs open text-mode in NetFront- browsing perfection!
I have had the following:
XDA II
XDA IIs
XDA IIi
XDA Exec
And recently upgraded to the Orbit. I must say that it is the closest I have come to being 100% happy with an XDA.
Had no idea how compact this device is. No more holding a brick to your ear, this is an aesthetically pleasing device - even for non PDA'ers.
I haven't found anything that doesn't work yet. I thought the GPS would be just another gimick and there was no way it was going to work properly without an external antenna - WRONG! Stick TomTom 6.02 on it and away you go. Managed nearly seven hours of GPS directed driving before the battery got too low (have now got a car charger).
I have been waiting for a device that combined all the functionality of a good PDA and phone in a phone size package and here it is.............and they throw in a GPS and FM Radio to boot.
and one more thing if you get a decent set of headphones (either buy an adapter or do a bit of DIY soldering) it's a pretty decent MP3 player too. 2GB micro SD from Moby Memory for about £40 and painless synching with Media Player 11 and your away.
The main reason I have a PDA phone is for Terminal Server. I provide software support and it gives me the freedom to get out of the House/Office and still be able to support my Clients. I was always able to justify carrying around a house brick (EXEC) because of this. Now I don't have to this phone is great and I have to say it ..... Gorgeous.
OK now it's out - I love my Orbit!!!
Go get one - I'm pretty sure you'll be happy!
Hope this helped!
Since a couple of weeks ago, I'm also the proud owner of a HTC P3300, after owning a Qtek S100 for a year and a half.
I'm truly very happy with my new P3300.
Almost all of the features have been mentioned in other replies to your post (and I agree with them), so, I want to add that, despite having the same 64Mb of RAM as the S100, it seems to me (I'm no expert) that memory management works better (probably WM5 instead of WM2003 has something to to with it) than it did on the S100.
Also the new 2Mpixel camera works very well, the picture quality is very good. It doesn't have flash or 'macro mode' selector, but I can live without it.
The phone capabilities are good (I had a lot of problems with the S100 not relating phone numbers to names or contact photos).
Apart from a little problem I had with activesync (mentioned in another thread and already solved) it's been working perfectly.
As for the GPS softwares, I use Destinator 6 (instead of TomTom) and Navitel (with custom Madeira map) for navigation and both of them work perfectly.
Bottom line, and yes, I'll be repating myself, I'm very very happy with my P3300.
regards,
thanks for the advice guys! looks like im off to get myself one then!
How about InfraRed capability?
I currently own a Mini S and I'm really keen to upgrade to the Orbit. I've however found that Orbit seems not to have an InfraRed port. So I wouldn't be able to use it as a TV remote control. Can anyone please confirm? Thanks.
PPB
How about InfraRed capability?
I currently own a Mini S and I'm really keen to upgrade to the Orbit. I've however found that Orbit seems not to have an InfraRed port. So I wouldn't be able to use it as a TV remote control. Can anyone please confirm? Thanks.
PPB
as far as i could see and i've read no it doesnt have an IR port, but surely using your phone as a tv remote isn't the be all and end all is it?
BUSPBP said:
I currently own a Mini S and I'm really keen to upgrade to the Orbit. I've however found that Orbit seems not to have an InfraRed port. So I wouldn't be able to use it as a TV remote control. Can anyone please confirm? Thanks.
PPB
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Hi
It doesn't have infrared, but if I where you I would treat myself to one of these
Link
I have one and along with the Orbit this remote is superb.
Rich
today i upgrade
T-Mobile mda compact 3 with HTC software and it is better then t-mobile software it is quickly
BUSPBP said:
I currently own a Mini S and I'm really keen to upgrade to the Orbit. I've however found that Orbit seems not to have an InfraRed port. So I wouldn't be able to use it as a TV remote control. Can anyone please confirm? Thanks.
PPB
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I asked HTC about making this device with consumer grade IR and 3G to make this a complete device. This is the response i got from HTC.
"Thank you for getting in contact with HTC regarding your recommendations and support. its more than likely a phone will come out with the functions you have asked. Its a case that at the moment a trade of as to be implemented due to technology reasons due to the GPS functions incorporated in to the phone, which requires other hardware to be dropped from the phone. The GPS being implemented is still fairly new concept and even through I don't have details of future phones its only a matter of time before it happens. Personally i'm waiting for a phone/GPS with slide out keyboard, which again can only be a matter of time.
Thank You for your comments"
All in all adding IR and 3G would make this one compact complete device. Use it to control your gadgets, navigate you around when driving, using it for phone and all manner of PPC functionality with virtually every connection option. One day it will be reality.
Just a snippet from HTC
Hope that helps.
Absolutely YES
Look at my signature, I've worked with nearly all HTCs from an early stage. If you can live without a keyboard, this is THE device to have at the moment.
HTC are nearing perfection!
Best device ever released (excluding the Universal for business use, still unbeatable).
I just got one - having been through the magician (which the wife now loves and uses) and the exec (which I still use as an excellent business tool) I have got to say that I am bowled over by the Orbit/3300 - WM5.0 AKU3, GPS, great screen, brilliant battery life (I get 3 days moderate usage out of mine between charges - 10 calls per day, push email on 18 hours per day, occasional GPS use!
GET ONE - U WILL NOT REGRET IT - and per other posts, if you don't like it I am sure it will get snapped up on EBAY
fox 2 said:
o2 have offered me an upgrade from my IIi to the orbit. As some of you have been using the orbit for a little while is it all it's cracked up to be?
and does tomtom work ok with the orbit and the built in gps reciever?
cheers guys
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Hi,
You might like to check out the thread on the General Forum :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291461
also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289166 (TomTom 6 instead of copilot)
and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289243
Ann
Hi,
Am I missing something here? Just upgraded to xda Orbit. All working lovely jubbley.
But....no SatNav software (CoPilot I think should come free with it). There's nothing in the box except the usual stuff....unless I'm being really stupid and it's right under my nose?!?! Where should it be??!?!
Anyone? Or am I not entitled to the free software as I am not a new customer?
Any light shed most appreciated.
I think o2 only gave away Copilot on the higher tariffs, otherwise you had to pay for it.
Possibly, but I'm on £50 / month.
Plus it says nothing about it on the website: https://shop.o2.co.uk/phone/O2/Xda_Orbit_-_Sat_Nav
Have they just forgotten to put it in the pack? Should it come in the normal box or in a seperate box?
Anyone know?
HPJ said:
Possibly, but I'm on £50 / month.
Plus it says nothing about it on the website: https://shop.o2.co.uk/phone/O2/Xda_Orbit_-_Sat_Nav
Have they just forgotten to put it in the pack? Should it come in the normal box or in a seperate box?
Anyone know?
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Its not preinstalled on your memory card is it?
No....but have found an answer.
Looked on another forum and saw posts detailing NO CoPilot software unless you order online.
I am an o2 select customer (as most are I think anyway....) so used the phone to upgrade.
Well unhappy about this, but then again, I love a good argument (esp with o2), so watch this space, will have my free software by the end of tomorrow if it kills me!!
Thanks for any help given, and if anyone has any ideas about how to get this freakin software it would be most appreciated.
HPJ said:
Possibly, but I'm on £50 / month.
Plus it says nothing about it on the website: https://shop.o2.co.uk/phone/O2/Xda_Orbit_-_Sat_Nav
Have they just forgotten to put it in the pack? Should it come in the normal box or in a seperate box?
Anyone know?
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They send it out separately so may arrive in the next few days. But if I was you I'd ring them up and find out for sure. On a £50 tariff you're definitely entitled to a free Copilt. The Copilot pack should include memory card, CD, car charger and car mount.
Great, thanks for the heads up! Think I will go easy on them at first then!!
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Looked on another forum and saw posts detailing NO CoPilot software unless you order online.
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Not quite true. Online gave away copilot on any tariff, but have now changed to the same as the high street where you get it free on the higher tariffs only. Ring them and get it sorted.
I upgraded over the phone but am an online customer (billing done online as opposed to paper statements sent thru the post each month). I got everything bundled into 1 box, should be 1 o2 branded box for the phone and a separate one for the Co-Pilot stuff.
Spoke to o2 this morning. Apparently I am eligible for the CoPilot, however o2 had neglected to order it....no surprise really.
Anyway, its on order and will be with me shortly...again, apparently....!!
Will keep you update,
Thanks.
Many thanks...due to this topic I called O2 and suprise suprise they found the Co-Pilot software in the store I should have got free. Went straight down and got it....thanks for the info.
Eoin
Had a right nightmare upgrading mine with O2 over the phone mate.
After the usual yes you will give me what I want conversation I got em to agree to including the copilot and the handset for free.
Phone turns up...... no copilot anywere.
Call to customer services, "no notes saying its included sir"
"well I suggest you listen to the call" I said. "I wanna speak to the bloke who upgraded me (insert time date and name of operator) "
He calls me back, makes his appologies and explains he's sending it out today. Turns up next day, on a MINI SD Card!!!!!
Called back (again) explaining the problem, rather miffed by now. "only one I can order " he says
(Me banging my head against the wall icon)
Finally get him to send me a Free Micro SD card to put it on, principle really as I'd already ordered a 2GB one
Just shows how sometimes the operators haven't got a clue! rant over LOL
Everyone be calm...I have received my CoPilot.....everyone can now relax!!
Only joking, but yes it is here.
So, in summary, o2 need a hefty nudge now and again. But we all knew that, didn't we?! If you ain't got your free software, a few well placed calls will do the trick.
End of thread methinks. Thanks for your help.
Hi...
Don't know if I'm allowed, so if not: admin can remove my post, no prob...
I am looking for a BlueAngel device for testing with Linux installation etc...
Device may be in (heavily) used state, battery time more than 2 minutes is not necessary.
What need to be ok is: screen, touchscreen, keyboard, gsm radio...
Anyone want to sell an old (double) device for a small price, let me know!
Thanks!
Moved the thread out of WM6. See no problem with this request.
i have one for sale if you are interested. it is actually a double since i bought a new one.
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Hi...
Don't know if I'm allowed, so if not: admin can remove my post, no prob...
I am looking for a BlueAngel device for testing with Linux installation etc...
Device may be in (heavily) used state, battery time more than 2 minutes is not necessary.
What need to be ok is: screen, touchscreen, keyboard, gsm radio...
Anyone want to sell an old (double) device for a small price, let me know!
Thanks!
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i want to sell
PM me if you have one for sale...
Let me know how much you want for it, what state it is in and where you live...
Thanks guys!
FS: Blue Angel
I have one for sale. It's branded T-Mobile MDA. The bluetooth function is not working but everything else is good, including battery. Very small nicks, and no scratches on screen (that I can see).
Currently running a stock T-Mobile UK 1.42 shipped ROM. I also tested it on WM6 and it ran it too but I went back to 2003SE.
Comes w/ USB + serial 2-in-1 cable (charging via USB or the DC jack on the cable).
Also comes w/ a cigarette lighter charger (third party).
I'm in Vancouver, Canada. Will ship out of country.
$175. + shipping.
[I do not have the docking station, nor the AC charger, or other except as listed above.]
Hi Buddy,
Let me know if u still need it. I have the Blue Angel with me with updated Windows 2006 and 1GB expanded memory as well. Please let me know if you are interested in buying. I can ship the same to you either from US or from India.
In the meantime, there's one coming to belgium from one of our US friends
Many thanks, and let's hope you get yours sold real soon...
Maybe an idea for a fixed post, or even a seperate topic?
Thanks again all for your quick responses
Bram
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I have the Blue Angel with me with updated Windows 2006 and 1GB expanded memory as well.
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1 gig? Are you talking about a gig of memory on board, or via a SD card?
if it's onboard, how the heck was that done?
Hey guys. I have gotten alot from this website so I would like to give back. I own and operate a mobile phone repair shop and would like to extend my services to this forum. Most of you seem pretty techical so even if you just want the part (microphone, ear speaker, Loud speaker, LCD) I will provide it for you at a low cost plus shipping of course. I mostly deal with hardware issues so please don't PM me or post asking about software, I am a total noob when it comes to that!
Thanks again to all the rom builders and contributers who have helped make my phone awsome!
If you can source the vibrate motor for an HTC S710 I would be forever grateful. Where abouts are you located?
EDIT: I see you're in Phoenix.
Most of the parts I carry are for US released HTC phones but often they carry simular parts. If you can post a picture of what it looks like I'll see if I have a match.
I will upload a picture in a little bit, however here are the specifications from the HTC Vox Service Manual for the motor;
JT0406-30CSR1, JNTECH, Cylindrical, 3V, 100mA, 12000+/-3000 rpm, 60/-, 20degC, 11.2*5.1*5.8mm
The cylinder has J7D05 printed on it and has 2 prongs that make contact to the pad on the PCB. I've tried many different other motors but none of them physically fit in the spot. So if you have any motor rated to those specs and is smaller or equal to the dimensions above, I will take it.
Here are two pictures of it. They are quite large, so not inlined. Not my camera, one of those funky digital ones that I have no idea how to adjust the focus on.
http://i25.tinypic.com/20psxg3.jpg
http://i25.tinypic.com/22dcb4.jpg
I'll check my inventory tomorrow. The shop is closed for today, it being the 4th of July and all.
Ah yes. Thanks, I shall await your response in great excitement.
Happy Indie Day!
A friend of mine has an O2 XDA Orbit but the usb works for charging but not for the data link.
Is this fixable? and if so, do you perform the fixes !!!!
@pna
I had the same problem with my Dash/Excalibur. I had to turn off the USB charging feature in the settings and then the data worked fine. I just either turn it back on if I need to charge via USB on my PC and don't have a wall charger handy. Tell your friend to try that.
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Also Turn off Advanced Network Functionality to along with charging over USB.
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A friend of mine has an O2 XDA Orbit but the usb works for charging but not for the data link.
Is this fixable? and if so, do you perform the fixes !!!!
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If the pins in the socket look straight re-flow the solder on the mainboard or get someone to do it. It's fairly easy. New sockets are about $4 on fleabay but as there are multiple lines close together you do need skill to replace.
M.S
@h4waii
Sorry friend. I don't have one that looks like that by HTC. However the T-Mobile Sidekick 3 vibrator does look like it. If I had it here to test I would be able to look closer. Once again, sorry friend.
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@h4waii
Sorry friend. I don't have one that looks like that by HTC. However the T-Mobile Sidekick 3 vibrator does look like it. If I had it here to test I would be able to look closer. Once again, sorry friend.
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I do, however, stock them. pm me and I'll list it on eBay.I'm in the UK though so shipping will be dependant on where you are. Outside UK is £7.
M.S
Good, this is the point right? To help our fellow members. Thanks Mysterious Stranger.
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Good, this is the point right? To help our fellow members. Thanks Mysterious Stranger.
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Help if asked, yes. Spam to get sales, NO.
M.S
Anyway you can check out my thread here...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405758
Might find it intresting.
htc touch cruise
One of the give aways in buying this product is CoPilot Live 7 with free city map. I choose Muscat in Oman in English but I can not activate it. I went to the dealer but he wants me to pay to activate it.
Planetneo said:
Hey guys. I have gotten alot from this website so I would like to give back. I own and operate a mobile phone repair shop and would like to extend my services to this forum. Most of you seem pretty techical so even if you just want the part (microphone, ear speaker, Loud speaker, LCD) I will provide it for you at a low cost plus shipping of course. I mostly deal with hardware issues so please don't PM me or post asking about software, I am a total noob when it comes to that!
Thanks again to all the rom builders and contributers who have helped make my phone awsome!
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Right on! I have been wanting to replace the metal bezel that goes around the front of the AT&T 8525 (U.S. HTC Hemes). Mine has gotten quite scratched and scuffed over the last year, and I would love to have it returned to it's original clean, shiny look.
Do you happen to carry this part by any chance? Or know of an affordable place to obtain one?
I get mine from a guy on ebay. I used my last 3 over the holiday weekend so I am out till I order some more on Monday. They are about $28 shipped. Link below....
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-Hermes-Cing...ryZ20336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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I get mine from a guy on ebay. I used my last 3 over the holiday weekend so I am out till I order some more on Monday. They are about $28 shipped. Link below....
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-Hermes-Cing...ryZ20336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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If you need the full housing email Amit / Raki Computers and ask - they have them as well at not much more $ ( about $26 IIRC) if you ask although the parts they sell are used / stripped from BER phones so some have minor marks and it's pot luck.
M.S
edit - I emailed Amit @ Raki myself anyway and he's listed the full housings here: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220254094906
better value IMO.
Yes. We've got software support and now hardware support. This thread needs to be stickied.