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Universal memory upgrade?

hi!
has anybody of you ever thought of putting a larger memory chip into the universal? has anybody done such a mod before? I thought about that as I saw the memory chip in a USB memory stick with 1GB.
I think it should be possible to change memory chips with compatible devices.
Can you imagine your universal with 1GB internal memory? :-D
has anybody experiences about that?
thanks for your reply

If you do a search, you will find several people have had the same thought. It is, however, not possible. You could put a trillion megabytes in the device, but it will only ever address 64mb of it.

you /can/ edit the amount it registers, just just need to know where in the rom file to hex edit, your best bet is to buy maicmach a universal (unless he has one) and ask him to find it out

Harrier Forum?

Is it completely absurd me thinking that there should be a forum added for the Harrier as it is CDMA? I'm just thinking it would be a lot more convenient for people to find solutions for their particular hardware.

It would be nice since what works on the BA obviously doesn't work on the Harrier, but I think there must be an unusually small number of people that use the Harrier. It seems there is little interest in the Harrier judging by the fact you posted this question over 2 weeks ago and I'm the 1st to respond!

iam also intrested

Very Interrested.

I would be too. But everything has been said and done already about the Harrier (6600s). And until someone figures out how to get the rom updated to WM5 or 6 there is nothing else. Every other forum is dead or removed that I know of. I brought up trying to use the WM5 rom for a samsung i730 as our stepping stone. But as of now there hasn't been any reply.
I'll say it again. If anyone could tell (show) me how to strip down the rom from the i730 to just the OS and the drivers, I think we could get somewhere. But I know next to nothing about it. And sure as hell don't know enough to go it on my own.

The main problem is the bootloader, not OS. To run WM5/6, you need a WM5/6 compatible bootloader. The OS itself is actually not device specific. It can actually be ported from one device to another with relative ease. The drivers may be a problem, but I've heard in some cases WM2003 drivers can work, and I think most drivers from the Blue Angel may work in the Harrier with the exception of the radio drivers. So basically, I think even tearing the i730 ROM apart won't help. That's not even considering the XIP! Most files in the XIP are device-specific. Even if we had a WM5/6 capable bootloader, I'm not sure we could come up with a compatible XIP.
Samsung bootloaders are usually very, very different from HTC. It's remotely possible it could work, but if it doesn't, it will PERMANENTLY brick the phone. It could definitely at least get us further ahead if it were possible to try different bootloaders, but experimenting with bootloaders is 100% guaranteed to brick the phone. That would be no big deal if someone knew the JTAG pads in order to repair a bricked phone with corrupt bootloader, but without knowing the JTAG pads, it's rather silly to even attempt it.
Most of the time when a device doesn't support WM5/6, but someone made it work, it's using the bootloader and XIP out of a leaked ROM. Perhaps through a secret connection through someone that works at HTC.
I tore apart my 6700's ROM and noticed there's a file, RadioServicePresent.dll that seems specific to CDMA whose description is "Harrier Radio Present Service". Could that possibly mean somewhere, there is a prototype WM5 for Harrier?

no gsm, cant install radio rom, plz help, searched no results..

i cant install install any radio rom, my phone says no gsm. i bought the phone on line, and i dont no what rom was it before, but it has no gsm. then i flashed many radio roms with universal ruu-cid bypassing, but cant install..does not move, stuck at 0% then updat error, i have a g3. and i already searched thru the forum. but those didnt help at all...some solutions i found:
- flash with sd storage, he just posted a pic and didnt explain anything and never reply
- check ur id or something and make sure u have the same id? flash it back to original rom- which i didnt no what rom was installed in this phone before...then he didnt explain..
so, im wondering can any1 plz explain step by step how to flash any raido rom, or i have the feeling that its broken anyways, but wanna fix it if i could. thx in advance to all yall nice ppll

Try installing a WM5 ROM and then reflashing the radio. Also check the version of the bootloader, as that may be causing problems as well. I just updated mine to 1.01. Have been looking for 1.2, but the file available ay the wiki section doesn't seem to work. By the way, do you just not get any network signal, or do you get some sort of messages to that effect???
Cheers!

what does the new bootloader do? should i update the bootloader firs and then try to flash the radio rom? or just flash it back to wm6 then update the bootloader? 1 more thing, will any wm5 work?

I've got the same problem too.. I think it's a defect on the motherboard. I am loosing the SIM card at random intervals, I can't get it to happen - it just happens...
I am buying a new M/B I think something went wrong with the GSM part of the UNI.
Ariel

I have the same problem with "invalid sim card" ... As I have friend who's GSM repair guy, I got my card reader replaced, and also tried flashing new radio ROM - still loosing it - occasionally it's "no service", and at other times "invalid SIM"
I'll see if my friend will be able to find some bad soldiering on the MB and maybe fix it (optimistic outlook

If anyone solves this notify me
I think it maybe some microswitch on the motherboard, I switched sims - it's something else wrong with the radio part of the jasjar
--summoner

I had similar problem and it was connected with the metal pin where the SIM card is inserted, since it was not pushed enough to get contact with the module. Try this maybe can help

I tried, bent them some and sprayed contact cleaner everywhere...
nothing

COnsidewring the increasing issues of NO GSM, and as such now we have memory upgradation being done, here is the way to tackle the issue.Pls note and understand carefully what u are doing and then proceed.It involves hrdware skills.
-Open the Universal as per the guide and locate the Qualcomm Chip and Radio section, which is near the antenna.
- Apply the flux on the Qualcomm Chip and hot blow it mildly and carefully.This will eliminate any kind of dry solder and enhance the contacts of the chip.
-Reassemble and Immedialtely flash the Radio ROM only.If u can flash, then when reboot, it will show Radio None, insttead of NO GSM, as in case of Blue Angel.Soft reset again and u are back to normal Radio Version.
I hope this helps.I have been able to recover several Unis with this technique.

So you are saying the radio chip needs to be resoldered because some connection is loose?
What do you think is the reason?
--Summoner

Sorted!
I did as hdubli suggested and it worked! my uni has worked for 18 hours straight now whereas before would lose the sim every 10 minutes or so. Quite scary - although I have a rework station, I have never used it on anything so valuable before!
Thanks for the advice,
John

Cool,
What do you mean rework station? How can I do it myself? can I order this FLUX online?
Can you supply photos or more detailed instructions?
--summoner

Summoner,
a rework station is a hot-air blower used for soldering the very small components found in mobiles and micro-electronics. It is possible to melt all the solder under all the pins of a chip at the same time and if you use a little flux to prevent it ixidising when it melts, you can get all of the joints to be perfectly made. A rework station will cost at least $100US and you do need some practice before you risk your uni, but if you know a local phone-repair shop, they will either have a rework station or know a "man who can". Hdubli suggested reworking the Qualcomm chip in the radio section - the picture in the wiki shows at least 3 Qualcomm chips, so I did them all!
If you're happy with the concept and fancy having a go yourself then google for a local distributor of "aoyue" - they are a Chinese manufacturer of rework kit, and any electronics dealer that sells soldering kit will sell you a "residue-free flux pen". I got mine from Maplin.co.uk here in UK for less than $10us.
hope that helps,
JT

Thanks for your reply... I'll see if to get a rework station, it looks interesting - I know how to solder and stuff. but never used a rework station.
Does anyone have online instructions/tips for using?
--Summoner

www.sparkfun.com has some great tutorials on hot-air soldering and reworking of surface mount components. If you do get a rework station, I recommend a lot of practice on some dead gadgets before you risk your uni!
Best of luck with it,
John

Any luck with this rework method?

I tried to rework but no luck.

no gsm with htc phones/hermes
Hey, just a shot. ATT won't help worth crap and their customer service blows. I found out that if you do a hard boot to flash rom you need to remove the sims card. I am not sure if that is the procurring cause of the no gsm issue, but I don't have a data package and they program that sim to block the gsm! Well, blocking the gsm during programming also blocks your device from setting the parameters correctly for acquiring the imei, radio, and protocol version. DUH ATT! They admitted that they dont service the devices to me on the phone. That's my 2 cents. If it works for others let everyone else know. Now, can someone explain to me how to upgrade to 6.5 and where to start for programing this thing to do great things! Thanks, Ryan

webberz said:
Hey, just a shot. ATT won't help worth crap and their customer service blows. I found out that if you do a hard boot to flash rom you need to remove the sims card. I am not sure if that is the procurring cause of the no gsm issue, but I don't have a data package and they program that sim to block the gsm! Well, blocking the gsm during programming also blocks your device from setting the parameters correctly for acquiring the imei, radio, and protocol version. DUH ATT! They admitted that they dont service the devices to me on the phone. That's my 2 cents. If it works for others let everyone else know. Now, can someone explain to me how to upgrade to 6.5 and where to start for programing this thing to do great things! Thanks, Ryan
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Welcome to the forum
You are in the wrong section
Universal does not means all HTC devices, it refers to a specific model
Try to look into the proper section of your device
Good luck,

Why can't a bricked phone be revived?

This is a question for those in the know when it comes to programming.Why isn't there a way to revive a bricked phone? Can't there be some method for a host computer to manually write the radio to the device? How does HTC fix a bricked phone for it to be a refurb?
I'm just very curious about this because I see a few people attempt to update the radio only to lose power and brick their EVO. I have no programming experience so don't know what goes on at the internal component level. Thanks in advance for your input.

It goes back to the old bootstrapping problem when computers were being developed. A computer (in this case, your cell phone) is pretty dumb at the hardware level. All it can do is run programs. That's ALL it can do. It can't even load a program, only run them. Thus the problem. It gets solved by injecting a "bootstrap" program at startup (from the phrase "pull yourself up by your bootstraps") which is a program that runs and gives access to all the I/O, and the computer can then load more programs.
When you update this bootstrapping program, it gets dicey, because if it isn't written right, or if there's a glitch during the update, this most basic of all functions gets corrupted. If the program that tells the phone how to load programs goes away, all the phone can do is... sit there. Like a brick.
Hope this helped!

That helped me, thanks.

Soylent Grin said:
It goes back to the old bootstrapping problem when computers were being developed. A computer (in this case, your cell phone) is pretty dumb at the hardware level. All it can do is run programs. That's ALL it can do. It can't even load a program, only run them. Thus the problem. It gets solved by injecting a "bootstrap" program at startup (from the phrase "pull yourself up by your bootstraps") which is a program that runs and gives access to all the I/O, and the computer can then load more programs.
When you update this bootstrapping program, it gets dicey, because if it isn't written right, or if there's a glitch during the update, this most basic of all functions gets corrupted. If the program that tells the phone how to load programs goes away, all the phone can do is... sit there. Like a brick.
Hope this helped!
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Thanks for the info. That is interesting. So how does HTC initially put the bootstrap in and/or how do they handle a bricked phone?

Soylent Grin said:
It goes back to the old bootstrapping problem when computers were being developed. A computer (in this case, your cell phone) is pretty dumb at the hardware level. All it can do is run programs. That's ALL it can do. It can't even load a program, only run them. Thus the problem. It gets solved by injecting a "bootstrap" program at startup (from the phrase "pull yourself up by your bootstraps") which is a program that runs and gives access to all the I/O, and the computer can then load more programs.
When you update this bootstrapping program, it gets dicey, because if it isn't written right, or if there's a glitch during the update, this most basic of all functions gets corrupted. If the program that tells the phone how to load programs goes away, all the phone can do is... sit there. Like a brick.
Hope this helped!
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Thanks good explanation appreciate that.

rafroehlich2 said:
Thanks for the info. That is interesting. So how does HTC initially put the bootstrap in and/or how do they handle a bricked phone?
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There is probably a JTAG interface somewhere in there. In fact,that's how the original hack of the IPhone was done. (Better ways were since found) Most devices have a quasi standard interface for programming the flash and accessing and the hardware for diagnostics. For instance,linksys routers actually have a spot on the board to solder a header and you can make a cable that connects to the parralel port. Do a google search for "Hairy Dairy Maid Debrick" and you will find it. A similar thing is probobally possible with the Evo (Ive even seen them on Hard Drives and CD Rom drives) The problem is,its not entirely standardized,and it might not even be a connector or pads on the board. It might instead be a matter of knowing where you can connect the leads on the board to something that under the right circumstances BECOMES the JTAG connector. (For instance,a pin that controls something else might be a JTAG interface for the first few hundred milliseconds of start-up,or if a certain other pin of the chip is grounded when the power is applied. It might also be completely internal to the chip,and there be NO connectors on the board (it almost CERTAINLY has the capability,they need it during prototyping) and the chips might be programmed BEFORE they are soldered in. It might take replacing the rom chip to get it to go. There are lots of ifs
Chances are though,the factory has a special cable and a special software program that can reprogram the device. To replicate that might be relatively easy or could be next to impossible but requires a certain degree of knowledge about the hardware. What I suspect is,until someone who has the skills to make such a cable bricks their phone,they wont bother figuring out how to debrick one. In fact,when that person bricks their phone,they will probably take it back to sprint and say "I dont know what happens" In fact,even if its stuck looping in an obviously hacked boot loader he for some odd reason cant undo,hes probably going to send it back to sprint. I know someone who did exactly that to their brand new HP laptop. He found that 15kv from the flyback of an old B&W television applied to the memory slots took care of the looping and Best Buy gave him another one. As he put it "I dont know what happened,but it smells bad and wont boot up"

pflatlyne said:
There is probably a JTAG interface somewhere in there. In fact,that's how the original hack of the IPhone was done. (Better ways were since found) Most devices have a quasi standard interface for programming the flash and accessing and the hardware for diagnostics. For instance,linksys routers actually have a spot on the board to solder a header and you can make a cable that connects to the parralel port. Do a google search for "Hairy Dairy Maid Debrick" and you will find it. A similar thing is probobally possible with the Evo (Ive even seen them on Hard Drives and CD Rom drives) The problem is,its not entirely standardized,and it might not even be a connector or pads on the board. It might instead be a matter of knowing where you can connect the leads on the board to something that under the right circumstances BECOMES the JTAG connector. (For instance,a pin that controls something else might be a JTAG interface for the first few hundred milliseconds of start-up,or if a certain other pin of the chip is grounded when the power is applied. It might also be completely internal to the chip,and there be NO connectors on the board (it almost CERTAINLY has the capability,they need it during prototyping) and the chips might be programmed BEFORE they are soldered in. It might take replacing the rom chip to get it to go. There are lots of ifs
Chances are though,the factory has a special cable and a special software program that can reprogram the device. To replicate that might be relatively easy or could be next to impossible but requires a certain degree of knowledge about the hardware. What I suspect is,until someone who has the skills to make such a cable bricks their phone,they wont bother figuring out how to debrick one. In fact,when that person bricks their phone,they will probably take it back to sprint and say "I dont know what happens" In fact,even if its stuck looping in an obviously hacked boot loader he for some odd reason cant undo,hes probably going to send it back to sprint. I know someone who did exactly that to their brand new HP laptop. He found that 15kv from the flyback of an old B&W television applied to the memory slots took care of the looping and Best Buy gave him another one. As he put it "I dont know what happened,but it smells bad and wont boot up"
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Wow. Thanks for the detailed answer. Too bad this isn't a standardized item. I hope eventually things progress enough where this isn't even a thought. Thanks again for the good response.
Sent from my PC36100

rafroehlich2 said:
Wow. Thanks for the detailed answer. Too bad this isn't a standardized item. I hope eventually things progress enough where this isn't even a thought. Thanks again for the good response.
Sent from my PC36100
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Yea,it would be nice if it were. Its kinda sorta quasi standard,so it HAS been done in some cases where its necessary,but often there are easier ways around it. Personally, I have allways thought that its a pretty stupid thing to make a piece of equipment that can fail due to a bad flash. The people who designed many of the flash memory chips seemed to agree,and they added something called a "boot block" to many,but the way its implemented,when its implemented doesn't fully protect you from a bad flash. Its even worse now that everything is in ball grid array chips soldered down to the board.

Buying a Blue Angel today?

Hi, my sister needs a low cost new phone and i've found, on eBay, some Qtek 9090 at 144€.
I know, it's a quite old device, but, viewing the tecnical sheet, it doesn't seems to be so bad... In fact, i'm asking you users, would you buy a Blue Angel today?
Of course i'd upgrade its ROM, it's dangerous?
Now i've got an HTC Diamond, is it really different beethween ARM and Xscale? Does it cause any compatibility issue?
And, important thing, is it strong? She's not very "soft" with phones

i would definetely buy one again, but not for 150eur! 30-60 maybe. on ebay, for 150 you'd get a touch pro or touch diamond in mint condition.
upgrading the rom is not dangerous. many people messed up their phones during upgrading, but there is always a pretty easy way to restore it. no mistake is fatal.

Chef_Tony said:
i would definetely buy one again, but not for 150eur! 30-60 maybe. on ebay, for 150 you'd get a touch pro or touch diamond in mint condition.
upgrading the rom is not dangerous. many people messed up their phones during upgrading, but there is always a pretty easy way to restore it. no mistake is fatal.
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I couldn't find one for lower prices that meets my payments requests...
But this is not a problem
I've seen that flasing is a bit tricky compared to flashing the HTC Diamond, where you can just download the ROM and, if it's for Diamond, you can flash it without problem...
Here there are some IDs to edit before flashing, right?

no, i find the blueangel to be the easiest device to flash, no CID locking, no need for SPL changing... just bootloader, flashing, hard reset, and that is the same procedure for any device, just that the BA does not need to be unlocked before, just the extrom resize, which is not mandatory.

Chef_Tony said:
no, i find the blueangel to be the easiest device to flash, no CID locking, no need for SPL changing... just bootloader, flashing, hard reset, and that is the same procedure for any device, just that the BA does not need to be unlocked before, just the extrom resize, which is not mandatory.
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Uh Really?
What about this? It's useless right now? :O

the RUU checks for deviceID and countryID and other IDs, but by using a custom RUU and putting the device into bootloader mode before connecting to the pc, all those id checks are bypassed.
on the wiki page in your link, the topic is finding the correct STOCK rom for your device. but nobody uses stock roms with wm2003se anymore. all the roms offered on this forum work for all blueangel models, no matter if it's a t-mo mda iii or spv m2000 or siemens sx66 or whatever. the only device, that cannot be flashed with blueangel roms, is the harrier, the cdma version of the phone. but since there is no cdma network in europe, there is no chance of getting a harrier, plus, you would recognize a harrier immediately, because it has no sim card slot, because on cdma, that is not needed.
btw the best thing about the blueangel is the community i have a Blueangel, a Universal and a Touch HD and while the other 2 devices' hardware is way superior, their respective sections here on the forum are by far not as good as the blueangel's.

Chef_Tony said:
the RUU checks for deviceID and countryID and other IDs, but by using a custom RUU and putting the device into bootloader mode before connecting to the pc, all those id checks are bypassed.
on the wiki page in your link, the topic is finding the correct STOCK rom for your device. but nobody uses stock roms with wm2003se anymore. all the roms offered on this forum work for all blueangel models, no matter if it's a t-mo mda iii or spv m2000 or siemens sx66 or whatever. the only device, that cannot be flashed with blueangel roms, is the harrier, the cdma version of the phone. but since there is no cdma network in europe, there is no chance of getting a harrier, plus, you would recognize a harrier immediately, because it has no sim card slot, because on cdma, that is not needed.
btw the best thing about the blueangel is the community i have a Blueangel, a Universal and a Touch HD and while the other 2 devices' hardware is way superior, their respective sections here on the forum are by far not as good as the blueangel's.
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Great, so i just have to go to bootloader and flash? Just great
So it's even less dangerous than flashing other devices. Wow, i like it
I can't wait to play with it

Cero92 said:
Hi, my sister needs a low cost new phone and i've found, on eBay, some Qtek 9090 at 144€.
I know, it's a quite old device, but, viewing the tecnical sheet, it doesn't seems to be so bad... In fact, i'm asking you users, would you buy a Blue Angel today?
Of course i'd upgrade its ROM, it's dangerous?
Now i've got an HTC Diamond, is it really different beethween ARM and Xscale? Does it cause any compatibility issue?
And, important thing, is it strong? She's not very "soft" with phones
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I'll sell you mine for 100e with postage fees included. Seriously, just need to fix this sim card bug, and if you want it, we can do business.

aco036 said:
I'll sell you mine for 100e with postage fees included. Seriously, just need to fix this sim card bug, and if you want it, we can do business.
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Sorry i've already bought it
The main problem was the payment method: for 150€ here on XDA i could get some newer devices, but i don't have paypal and postepay...

dont buy ba today
it's slow and old and big. just buy some newer, smaller and faster. i have one but i don't use it any more

trilv said:
it's slow and old and big. just buy some newer, smaller and faster. i have one but i don't use it any more
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BA is slow ??? LOL not really it is faster as a Kaiser for example

I should get it today
The 400Mhz CPU is (by frequence) faster than my old Elfin (200Mhz) but it's an XScale based device, so i don't think i can directly compare them... What are the differences beethween XScale and ARM?

I have.. .. alot of devices. I like the blueangel. It's alot better than the newer phones, faster. I'd use a blueangel over any of the newer phones. Hermes was the last good phone put out by HTC.

cheapusenet said:
I have.. .. alot of devices. I like the blueangel. It's alot better than the newer phones, faster. I'd use a blueangel over any of the newer phones. Hermes was the last good phone put out by HTC.
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I got it today and it seems to be good, i like it...
Just a question: is normal that the slider is a bit "strong"? In fact, on mine, it doesn't open itself when i press it up (i am used to the new Nokia's sliders )
However i'd take it, but also my sister likes it

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7948072#post7948072 I have some problems