I have searched and searched to find the answer but the forum is large.
I wish to change from Cingular to Verizon as a celluar network. I would like to know if I can go to Veriozon with the SIM (Cingular SIM.. not sure if this makes any difference as I am new to screwing around with my PDA) unlocked or if I need to do something else before I go into a Verizon store and purchase a SIM from them.
Cingular has very little coverage where I am and I really like my BA. I do not want to change to a different phone at this point. What are my options?
It won't work man
Ok... quick breakdown.... Cingular is a GSM network, so is T-Mobile and Various Others. GSM uses sim cards. Verison on the other hand, as well as sprint is a CDMA network and do not use sim cards. There is no device interpolerity between CDMA networks and GSM. So u can't take ur device with u from cingular to verizon, but u could move to t-mobile.
Thank you. I figured something like that since I never saw a reference to Verizon on here.
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Just as the title asks, has anyone been able to unlock their Sprint Touch Pro 2, since Verizon's isnt out yet, to work on a US GSM carrier such as AT&T or T-Mobile?
Are the bands on the CDMA TP2s compatible with any of the 3G GSM networks, such as the 850/1700/1900/2100?
I just hate the fact that the GSM TP2s dont come with the 3.5mm headjack, but I wont bother with the CDMA TP2s if they cant work on a 3G GSM network.
Thanks!
Daniel
from the specs that ive found online, especifically the "insanely detailed review" that comes up when doing a google serch for sprint thouch pro 2 review. the cdma version will only support edge speeds.
I tried a canadian CDMA TP2 on a canadian GSM provider and only saw the E icon too. I'm in Oz now and have H full time. There are some radio settings in the GSM section of the phone options that I am gonna play with when I get home to see if it makes any difference. But it looks like it doesnt support 3G speeds in NA. Maybe after hard-spl, maybe radios simply missing?
I used my unlocked Telus TP2 with AT&T when I roam in the states. My device is unlocked and I have an AT&T SIM card. The sad thing as is noted 3G does not work.... gotta get that thing to work in future fixes.
Hardware issues
It is a hardware issue and will never be fixed. Our crappy US companies force HTC to cripple devices to try to limit our choice of phones we use on their networks!
The Sprint version is being advertised as an international phone, and comes with a Sprint SIM card pre-installed, and what appears to be a security strap, making it difficult to remove.
Before traveling internationally, you can call Sprint ahead of time to have them active their SIM card, and for the low low price of $1.99/minute, you can use overseas GSM networks to make phone calls, and in many cases, data access.
Of course I'd like to buy a pay-as-you-go SIM card and install that for much more reasonable rates while overseas, but I'm not sure if it's as simple as plugging in a different SIM card.
I had read that the Rogers version of the phone required...something to active the SIM slot, and even then seemed not to work for data via 3G.
Anybody else have the Sprint version? Played with GSM yet?
I'm a little apprehensive to start tearing into it to remove their SIM card just yet...
The GSM is 2G only, no 3G.
Well my buddy has a AT&T sim card that i put in my TP2 but it did not work. I switch the phone to GSM only but it did not pick up a network. I also put that sprint sim on his phone but it had no network either. According to the manual its lock from going to a gsm network on the USA.
gface2k said:
Well my buddy has a AT&T sim card that i put in my TP2 but it did not work. I switch the phone to GSM only but it did not pick up a network. I also put that sprint sim on his phone but it had no network either. According to the manual its lock from going to a gsm network on the USA.
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Hopefully a custom ROM can unlock the ability to use GSM networks in the United States!
gface2k said:
Well my buddy has a AT&T sim card that i put in my TP2 but it did not work. I switch the phone to GSM only but it did not pick up a network. I also put that sprint sim on his phone but it had no network either. According to the manual its lock from going to a gsm network on the USA.
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good to know.
I read in the manual that it was not usable on US GSM networks too, but I assumed that was because they never intended for you to remove the Sprint SIM card, so of course the Sprint SIM card wouldn't work domestically.
So it seems the Sprint phone can be unlocked for GSM just like the Telus phones, but I haven't read of any success getting GSM 3G to work w/ an unlock code.
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The GSM is 2G only, no 3G.
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d'oh, missed this....
What about EDGE?
Check the specs, if it said gsm 850,1900 it should be able to use with in the US. Just have to sim unlock it first in order to use.
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d'oh, missed this....
What about EDGE?
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EDGE is 2G
Hello guys,
I have been reading all I can about the TP2 on different networks and I'm taking the plunge to buy an unlocked TP2. The only problem is that I'm torn between which one I should buy. I have searched all day and havent found the answer.
1) I like the features on the Verizon version but I have a deciding question - Can the Verizon version be used on the TMobile network? That is very important for deciding.
2) What problems am I likely to face using unlocking/HARD SPLing the Verizon version to work with the TMobile network?
I use TMObile at the moment with no intentions of switching carriers.
I would appreciate any positive help. Thanks
No-
VZ is CDMA and TMobile is GSM -
Not compatable
Prubin is right, but not telling the whole story.
A fully unlocked VZW TP2 will let you use a TMO SIM card and you will get GSM calling. Just no 3G on data, only EDGE speeds as the VZW TP2 does not have the proper UMTS bands.
I'm using with both Verizon and prepaid Tmobile (only 1 at a time). You will need to sim unlock as well.
As previous post stated, you lose 3G, only EDGE. Prepaid has no data but I was able to browse t-zones sites just fine. And you'll probably lose Tmobile specific apps.
Hi there,
I'm totally confused as to what I need to do to get my Touch Pro 2 (currently activated on Boost CDMA) to work abroad, specifically Canada.
It is flashed with Energy ROM, Reference version.
Do I need to do a Radio flash? Do I need to tweak some settings? Both? Neither?
I'm going to be in Canada for 3 weeks and plan to use either Rogers or Fido's GSM Pay as You Go (already have the SIM cards), or Telus's CDMA Pay as You Go.
I've read the FAQs and generally understand that this is possible -- just not clear the route.
Thanks,
Simmy
The biggest problem with Canada is our carriers don't want people coming in and using their networks without paying for it, and that usually means your first born here.
The hardware problem is, the TP2 will not work on the frequencies in Canada that Telus has used for the HSPA / 4G network. And using the current CDMA network is not possible either because Telus and Bell will not allow you to put branded phones from other companies on the old network and CDMA systems don't use SIM cards. So if your planning on bringing the TP2 up here I think you may be out of luck.
I took the TP2 to Ireland and was able to use the frequencies there on the O2 network, but to do that I had to unlock the phone and as i have the "world edition" with the SIM card slot once unlocked it worked over there no issue, and returned working over here with no SIM card in it. But again this is a frequency issue and telus tells us it won't work.
Now if when you get here, and you plug a sim card in and it does work, please share, because it means we can manually add frequencies and hook to both the old and new network. And some of us with the original unlimited data contracts (no 10 gig cap) would be really happy to know this.
As for Rogers, i can't tell you. I don't know if they have ever had the TP2 and have no clue what frequency they are using for their phones, though i'm sure it's similar.
Flashing the radio does nothing to add radios or affect your ability to connect to the network while abroad. Its usually just done to improve reception and/or battery life.
You will need your phone SIM unlocked. Then, as the post above suggests, either putting in the SIM works, or it doesn't.
Thanks to both of you for your reply.
So the TP2 won't work on any Canadian CDMA networks, but since it also has GSM, if I stick a Rogers or Fido SIM card in it, it *may* work. In fact, I believe it *should* work. I'll let you guys know how it goes.
And thanks for answering my question re: radio ROMs, Redpoint -- that's what I thought, but was still confused about.
So, with respect to unlocking, is the Olipro page that charges 11 pounds / 14 euros / $20 my best/cheapest option? (unfortunately, i can't link to it here because I'm a new member)
Thank muchly,
Simmy
The device should have no trouble connecting to a normal GSM network in Canada. The Canadian GSM networks use the GSM-1900 and GSM-850 bands. The CDMA Rhodiums use a quad band frequency that spans all of 850/900/1800/1900 MHz channels. You should have no problems in Canada. Enjoy your trip.
You do not need to flash a new radio to have it work in Canada.
First of all let me say that before u answer this question I have about as much knowledge on this as a 75yo grandmother, so please keep it extra simple. Most of what I read on these forums might as well be Greek. I have an LG G7 ThinQ. More specifically the G710VMX. I purchased it unlocked and brought it to Tracfone, yes I use Tracfone. It worked with the original SIM card I had from another phone until it didn't, that's when the issues began. Bought a 3 pack VZW, T-Mobile, AT&T sim kit intending to use VZW because has the best service in rural areas. That sim would not work so ended up with T-Mobile sim and bad service. Assumed the phone was GSM only so I suffered. Then I tried to put in an AT&T sim to see if that would give better service and it's GSM so I thought it would work, well it doesn't. Somehow this is only compatible with T-Mobile and US Cellular which is CDMA(? since I assumed phone GSM only). Now Tracfone and T-Mobile reps both are telling me that once they switch to VoLTE the phone will no longer work, I will need a new phone. How is that possible?? I love this phone and hace read that it is capable of operating in VoLTE but the setting to turn it on is not there. And all other networks when given my IMEI tell me it's not compatible. HELP ME PLEASE, I can't afford, nor do I want, a new phone right now.
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First of all let me say that before u answer this question I have about as much knowledge on this as a 75yo grandmother, so please keep it extra simple. Most of what I read on these forums might as well be Greek. I have an LG G7 ThinQ. More specifically the G710VMX. I purchased it unlocked and brought it to Tracfone, yes I use Tracfone. It worked with the original SIM card I had from another phone until it didn't, that's when the issues began. Bought a 3 pack VZW, T-Mobile, AT&T sim kit intending to use VZW because has the best service in rural areas. That sim would not work so ended up with T-Mobile sim and bad service. Assumed the phone was GSM only so I suffered. Then I tried to put in an AT&T sim to see if that would give better service and it's GSM so I thought it would work, well it doesn't. Somehow this is only compatible with T-Mobile and US Cellular which is CDMA(? since I assumed phone GSM only). Now Tracfone and T-Mobile reps both are telling me that once they switch to VoLTE the phone will no longer work, I will need a new phone. How is that possible?? I love this phone and hace read that it is capable of operating in VoLTE but the setting to turn it on is not there. And all other networks when given my IMEI tell me it's not compatible. HELP ME PLEASE, I can't afford, nor do I want, a new phone right now.
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time will tell, you know just use your phone as long as it's still working. don't let marketing fool you
Well, the other issue is that I need to get it away from Tracfone T-Mobile because their service is terrible in my area. I can't seem to get either a Tracfone AT&T or Tracfone Verizon SIM to work yet the phone is compatible (according to the websites respectively) with Cricket wireless (AT&T) and US Cellular (cdma). I don't understand... That is why I brought this question to all of you. I live and work in a rural area and it may sound crazy but all I want to do is make stinking phone calls.