Hello guys,
I have been reading all I can about the TP2 on different networks and I'm taking the plunge to buy an unlocked TP2. The only problem is that I'm torn between which one I should buy. I have searched all day and havent found the answer.
1) I like the features on the Verizon version but I have a deciding question - Can the Verizon version be used on the TMobile network? That is very important for deciding.
2) What problems am I likely to face using unlocking/HARD SPLing the Verizon version to work with the TMobile network?
I use TMObile at the moment with no intentions of switching carriers.
I would appreciate any positive help. Thanks
No-
VZ is CDMA and TMobile is GSM -
Not compatable
Prubin is right, but not telling the whole story.
A fully unlocked VZW TP2 will let you use a TMO SIM card and you will get GSM calling. Just no 3G on data, only EDGE speeds as the VZW TP2 does not have the proper UMTS bands.
I'm using with both Verizon and prepaid Tmobile (only 1 at a time). You will need to sim unlock as well.
As previous post stated, you lose 3G, only EDGE. Prepaid has no data but I was able to browse t-zones sites just fine. And you'll probably lose Tmobile specific apps.
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So I have a Touch Pro2 on my personal T-Mobile account. My company has issued me a iPhone for my work phone. Which they pay for 100%. My question is if I unlock my Touch Pro2 and put my sim card from my iPhone in the TP2 will AT&T change my data plan to a PDA one? Since I do not pay my company phone bill I don't want to do anything to change that plan or add more money to it without permission. By the way the iPhone is mine so if I leave the company I take it with me. So I want to get the Touch Pro2 to work on my company line so I can sell the iPhone pocket some cash and cancel my personal line.
At&T data plans
the iphone plan and the PDA plan are completely different features and are not cross compatible. If the company bought you an iphone, in order to make the internet work on the TP2 you will have to have the feature changed out, if it is the company's account, you may not have that access to make the change, and internet won't work until it is changed.
You dont need a pda plan to use a unlocked touch pro 2 from tmobile i have one and im on att, the tmobile version doesnt register on the att network so the most they can charge is the lowest data plan. as far as your plan the iphone plan is probably the only plan that doesnt change on its own, although if you put the sim in your touch pro 2 youll still get data and still be charger the iphone plan. but remember your only get edge dta speeds with a unlocked version.
Backmankiller said:
but remember your only get edge dta speeds with a unlocked version.
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So the T-Mo Touch Pro2 doesn't work on AT&T 3G?
doctahjeph said:
So the T-Mo Touch Pro2 doesn't work on AT&T 3G?
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That is correct. Tmobile TP2 has different 3G radio hardware than ATT. I got a Tmobile TP2 and unlocked it to use on ATT so that they couldnt take away my $19 unlimited data plan. the Edge radio works and thats fast enough for what I use the phone for.
I have tp2 on att network also but i cant connect to aim or any instant messaging programs what should i do. I configured the settings to connect to the internet and it works.but i cant use aim,yahoo,and myspace im.
mattekman said:
That is correct. Tmobile TP2 has different 3G radio hardware than ATT. I got a Tmobile TP2 and unlocked it to use on ATT so that they couldnt take away my $19 unlimited data plan. the Edge radio works and thats fast enough for what I use the phone for.
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Well seeing as how my previous company phone was BlackBerry Curve running edge I don't think it would be entirely a problem.
Is it faster or slower?
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Tmobile TP2 has different 3G radio hardware than ATT
How different? Is T-Mobile chip is faster than AT&T chip or slower? If I'm with T-Mobile TP2 phone and AT&T service what will happen if I'll flash the latest AT&T stock radio on the T-Mobile phone?
3G on TP2 w/AT&T
Is there any way to get the 3G to work on my TP2 (unlocked T-mobile)with my at&t 3G sim card ??? It is so f***ing slow!
Please don't tell me that I have to buy Tilt 2 to have it work!
Buy a Tilt 2.
I just got Tilt 2!
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Tmobile TP2 has different 3G radio hardware than ATT
How different? Is T-Mobile chip is faster than AT&T chip or slower? If I'm with T-Mobile TP2 phone and AT&T service what will happen if I'll flash the latest AT&T stock radio on the T-Mobile phone?
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You're taken care of now, but just for the record, the TMo and ATT 3G services propagate over different frequencies. The 3G radio in the TMo phone is tuned to transmit/receive 3G info over TMo's frequencies, and the Tilt2 is tuned to transmit/receive 3G info over ATT's frequencies. It's not a question of which chip is faster, but rather which chip can access which carrier's 3G frequency.
Most GSM phones have quad-band edge, meaning they can access edge-speed data on most carriers. But most branded GSM phones have only their particular carrier's 3g band.
Flashing the ATT ROM onto the TMo phone won't affect the speed of the 3g radio, as it is a hardware difference, not a software difference.
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You're taken care of now, but just for the record, the TMo and ATT 3G services propagate over different frequencies. The 3G radio in the TMo phone is tuned to transmit/receive 3G info over TMo's frequencies, and the Tilt2 is tuned to transmit/receive 3G info over ATT's frequencies. It's not a question of which chip is faster, but rather which chip can access which carrier's 3G frequency.
Most GSM phones have quad-band edge, meaning they can access edge-speed data on most carriers. But most branded GSM phones have only their particular carrier's 3g band.
Flashing the ATT ROM onto the TMo phone won't affect the speed of the 3g radio, as it is a hardware difference, not a software difference.
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Thanks, I figured it will be easy to buy Tilt 2
damn it !!!
So are u saying that my tmobile phone will never work on ATT with 3G?? this is CRAP! if there is no hardware difference why cant there be a workaround ? radio related maybe to unable the phone to use ATT 3g frequency???
Retroactive said:
So are u saying that my tmobile phone will never work on ATT with 3G?? this is CRAP! if there is no hardware difference why cant there be a workaround ? radio related maybe to unable the phone to use ATT 3g frequency???
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TMOBILE HTC Touch PRO 2 has different hardware -meant to read "band" specifically for Tmobile's 3g.
ATT TILT 2 has hardware specific for ATTs 3g network.
You can use Tmobile phones on ATT using Edge..but you will never get to ATTs 3g network. You simply just dont have the hardware. It's just like buying a phone that has not internal GPS chip and no matter how you flash it or add/remove software, you simply can't use the turn-by-turn navi software (unless you use an external bluetooth device).
Additionally, anyone know about the radio compatibility of a HTC branded TP2? I purchased mine already unlocked, and not sure if I can get 3G from ATT or not...
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Additionally, anyone know about the radio compatibility of a HTC branded TP2? I purchased mine already unlocked, and not sure if I can get 3G from ATT or not...
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The int'l unlocked version is edge only on ATT.
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The int'l unlocked version is edge only on ATT.
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Yup, that is exactly what I feared...Good to know, and I Think mine will end up on Craigslist before long.
the reason the 3G wont work is because the 2 carriers use different basebands for service. While they both have 3G capabilites, ATT uses 850 and 1900 and Tmobile uses 1700 and 2100... it may have changed but i know thats what it used to be. It is the same reason that (forgive me for mentioning the dang thing) the iphone 3G wont work on tmobile, it will only work at EDGE speeds.
Is there anything I can do to make my T-Mobile Touch Pro2 usable on Verizon's network?
Root it? Unlock it? Anything?
No, the T-Mobile Touch Pro2 is exclusively GSM, and Verizon's network utilizes CDMA technology. You would need to buy a Verizon Touch Pro2 from Verizon to use Verizon's network.
LOL.
AT&T, T-Mobile = GSM
Verizon, Sprint, US Cellular = CDMA
You CANNOT use a GSM phone on a CDMA network and vice versa.
AT&T to T-Mobile??
Hello,
I just upgraded to HTC Evo and moved to Sprint couple of days ago. I am trying to sell my Touch Pro2 to my friend who has a T-Mobile.
My TP2 is currently running the EneryROM, so I am wondering what I could do to get this phone run on T-Mobile.
We inserted his SIM-Card but unfortunately the phone asked for a code because the network is blocked.
I think I can download the T-Mobile's official ROM for TP2, would that work by itself?
Any suggestions?
Thank you
niM
nimdivino said:
Hello,
I just upgraded to HTC Evo and moved to Sprint couple of days ago. I am trying to sell my Touch Pro2 to my friend who has a T-Mobile.
My TP2 is currently running the EneryROM, so I am wondering what I could do to get this phone run on T-Mobile.
We inserted his SIM-Card but unfortunately the phone asked for a code because the network is blocked.
I think I can download the T-Mobile's official ROM for TP2, would that work by itself?
Any suggestions?
Thank you
niM
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nope... wont work.. you cant just install a rom on the phone and have it work on another network... The phones themselves have to be compatible.. like was said up there.. gsm phones run on gsm networks.. cdma on cdma... now that said.. arent the touch pro 2's with verizon and sprint world phones so will run on both gsm and cdma?? Although I'm fairly certain even if it is possible to get it to work on the network you want you definatly wont get 3G....
You're better off just selling your phone to someone ON your network... craigslist or ebay can be your best friend... and he's better off buying one made for his network.
Just my two cents!
nimdivino said:
Hello,
I just upgraded to HTC Evo and moved to Sprint couple of days ago. I am trying to sell my Touch Pro2 to my friend who has a T-Mobile.
My TP2 is currently running the EneryROM, so I am wondering what I could do to get this phone run on T-Mobile.
We inserted his SIM-Card but unfortunately the phone asked for a code because the network is blocked.
I think I can download the T-Mobile's official ROM for TP2, would that work by itself?
Any suggestions?
Thank you
niM
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First of all, don't try to flash the T-Mobile ROM onto your Sprint Rhodium, since that's a great way to brick your device (the ROM is for a GSM device, flashing that to a CDMA/GSM device will brick it). Sprint allows the use of SIM cards for any carriers except US ones, so what you need to do is Security Unlock your Sprint TP2, then flash this special modified radio that will allow for the use of SIM cards from US carriers. Only then can you use your Sprint TP2 on T-Mobile US.
EDIT: Disregard this entire post, I misread it and this probably doesn't apply to the actual situation. My bad...
Aaron McCarthy said:
nope... wont work.. you cant just install a rom on the phone and have it work on another network... The phones themselves have to be compatible.. like was said up there.. gsm phones run on gsm networks.. cdma on cdma... now that said.. arent the touch pro 2's with verizon and sprint world phones so will run on both gsm and cdma?? Although I'm fairly certain even if it is possible to get it to work on the network you want you definatly wont get 3G....
You're better off just selling your phone to someone ON your network... craigslist or ebay can be your best friend... and he's better off buying one made for his network.
Just my two cents!
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AFAIK, the TP2s on Verizon are World Phones, but I really doubt that you could go and use a Verizon TP2 on a GSM carrier like AT&T or T-Mo. I would assume Verizon would lock the feature to do that, and that the GSM antenna is more then likely an underpowered or unable to really take advantage of GSM networks (3G/HSDPA, Edge, etc). I think they are only set on on Verizons end to do basic voice and basic features.
nimdivino said:
Hello,
I just upgraded to HTC Evo and moved to Sprint couple of days ago. I am trying to sell my Touch Pro2 to my friend who has a T-Mobile.
My TP2 is currently running the EneryROM, so I am wondering what I could do to get this phone run on T-Mobile.
We inserted his SIM-Card but unfortunately the phone asked for a code because the network is blocked.
I think I can download the T-Mobile's official ROM for TP2, would that work by itself?
Any suggestions?
Thank you
niM
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Apparently no one is READING your post. You want to take an AT&T Tilt2 and run it on T-Mobile. It will work with the following restrictions:
1. Your phone is network locked to AT&T. You have to either call AT&T and get an unlock code, or buy a code off ebay or one of the forums here. That way the phone will work on a different carrier network.
2. Having unlocked your phone, with a T-Mobile SIM card it will work - but only on the slower Edge speed, NOT 3G. AT&T uses a different 3G technology than T-Mobile.
I would suggest selling it as an AT&T locked phone on ebay.
Aaron McCarthy said:
Although I'm fairly certain even if it is possible to get it to work on the network you want you definatly wont get 3G....
You're better off just selling your phone to someone ON your network... craigslist or ebay can be your best friend... and he's better off buying one made for his network.
Just my two cents!
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stevedebi said:
Apparently no one is READING your post. You want to take an AT&T Tilt2 and run it on T-Mobile. It will work with the following restrictions:
1. Your phone is network locked to AT&T. You have to either call AT&T and get an unlock code, or buy a code off ebay or one of the forums here. That way the phone will work on a different carrier network.
2. Having unlocked your phone, with a T-Mobile SIM card it will work - but only on the slower Edge speed, NOT 3G. AT&T uses a different 3G technology than T-Mobile.
I would suggest selling it as an AT&T locked phone on ebay.
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Thanks Steve
Everyone,
I apologize for the confusion.. I re-read my post and I didn't mention that my Touch Pro 2 is an AT&T phone. (I was an AT&T customer and moved to Sprint). Sorry about that guys..
But thank you everyone especially stevedabi for reading between the lines.. LOL.. He won't buy it but my other co-worker is very interested. Need to sell this thing so I can offset my termination fee from AT&T. haha.
stevedebi said:
Apparently no one is READING your post. You want to take an AT&T Tilt2 and run it on T-Mobile. It will work with the following restrictions:
1. Your phone is network locked to AT&T. You have to either call AT&T and get an unlock code, or buy a code off ebay or one of the forums here. That way the phone will work on a different carrier network.
2. Having unlocked your phone, with a T-Mobile SIM card it will work - but only on the slower Edge speed, NOT 3G. AT&T uses a different 3G technology than T-Mobile.
I would suggest selling it as an AT&T locked phone on ebay.
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Why not just transfer the entire contract to him WITH the phone.. Then you don't have to pay a cancellation fee... Can they do that here? I know of a few people that did it up in Canada but have never heard of anyone in the states doing it. I'm sure it's got to be possible down here.
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Is there anything I can do to make my T-Mobile Touch Pro2 usable on Verizon's network?
Root it? Unlock it? Anything?
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Sell it to me....
Verizon is cdma...tmobile is gsm they aren't interchangeable. PM me if you are interested in selling.
Question:
I'm getting mixed reports all over the blogs/forums/irc about the TMobile SGS3 isn't working as what it was first reported it to be.
I haven't seen that yet, or even posted, here on xda...
So, has anyone tried to have a TMo S3 with a AT&T sim? I use both TMo Straight Talk and AT&T Straight Talk, and I travel a lot. I swap sim on my GNex depending on the network and to where i'm at.
S3 is my next new toy, and based on AnandTech.com's reviews of the TMo, he did say it will work on both AT&T's HSPA+ and TMo's HSPA+. I just want to know if this was true in real time users, such as the community.
I just don't want to dip my $600+ on a phone when it might not even work, based on the consensus.
THANKS!!
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Why didn't you get the ATT version?
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If I had to GUESS, I'd say NO. I've only seen 1 device that would work on both networks using 4G - but it did require a flash.. It would only do 1 or the other at a time. (NOTE: THIS IS ONLY A GUESS AT THIS STAGE)
I have a GS3 from T-mobile, though I have not unlocked it yet, and I have access to a AT&T Straight talk sim, so I can absolutely test it, when I get unlocked.
You probably just have to SIM unlock the SGS3 and then it will work.
Sent from my phone. Prepare for atrocious Swype typos.
It would work if you unlocked it. How ever they only have 2 of the same frequencies for 3g 850 and 1900. T-Mobile has 1700 and AT&T has 2100. So your service would suffer in certain locations. Galaxy S III for T-Mobile doesn't support LTE so you wouldn't get True 4G coverage.
works fine on my unlocked Tmo GS3 with ATT SIM, HSPA+ all day long, no LTE of course.
I moved to Charlottesville, VA recently and the Tmobile coverage is really awful. Is it possible to take my rooted Tmobile Note 3 and use it on the Verizon network? I know it works on AT&T as I put my buddy's SIM card in and was able to connect to the network, but Verizon has the best coverage out here.
If I have to flash a new ROM or change the radio that's fine, I just need to know how to do it and if it's even possible.
No, not possible.
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No, not possible.
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But the Verizon version can come to Tmobile, right?
o_0 a t-mobile device to Verizon. lol I thought questions like this died in 2005
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Lucas155 said:
I moved to Charlottesville, VA recently and the Tmobile coverage is really awful. Is it possible to take my rooted Tmobile Note 3 and use it on the Verizon network? I know it works on AT&T as I put my buddy's SIM card in and was able to connect to the network, but Verizon has the best coverage out here.
If I have to flash a new ROM or change the radio that's fine, I just need to know how to do it and if it's even possible.
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It is impssible to use a T-Mobile phone on a Verizon network. T-Mobile and AT&T run on the GSM type of network and Verizon and I believe Sprint run on CDMA which aren't capatible. It doesn't matter if you are rooted or not.
defcon888 said:
It is impssible to use a T-Mobile phone on a Verizon network. T-Mobile and AT&T run on the GSM type of network and Verizon and I believe Sprint run on CDMA which aren't capatible. It doesn't matter if you are rooted or not.
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I've seen several instances of Verizon customers using their Note 3 on Tmobile. Just thought it might go the other way.
Verizon LTE devices come SIM unlocked for legal reasons (Verizon made a deal with the FCC not to SIM lock their devices in exchange for being able to use LTE Band 13 700 MHz).
Some of their older/"first-gen" LTE devices don't support GSM at all (e.g. Galaxy Nexus). But all nowadays do. The Galaxy S4 and newer support T-Mobile's LTE band. LTE is a GSM-based technology, and people travel as well. So pretty much all of their phones are GSM-enabled nowadays. Same for Sprint (except their phones will reject any US carrier SIMs specifically).
Anyways, the answer is no. AT&T and T-Mobile devices don't have CDMA enabled. And even if they did, Verizon and Sprint don't allow competitors' phones onto their networks.
I want to get this phone but might want to switch carriers soon. I was planning on doing the Sprint EasyPay for it and paying off the rest of the phone if or when I decide to switch carriers. After I pay it off in full and unlock it, would I be able to use it on T-mobile, AT&T, Verizon, or any of their MVNO's? Basically what I am asking is does the Sprint S6 support the necessary bands that the other networks operate on, and if so, would calling or texting still work? I have heard of some phones that have a SIM card slot for the LTE SIM on Sprint, but voice and text don't work once unlocked and used on another carrier.
Thanks,
Kyle
I would really like to know the answer to this as well. I have been searching without a definitive result.
Specifically, can unlocked Sprint phone be used on Verizon?