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The sub-standard quality of the supplied earphones prompted me to look for a better alternative. The 2.5 to 3.5mm adaptor is a good one but it negates the use of the control console (phone buttons, mic., etc), so I decided to make my own connector which I fitted above the control console. I can now use any 'quality' headphones to listen to music and use the phone handsfree function.
Its pretty easy to do, if you know how to solder, which is not difficult in itself. If anyone wants more detail of what I did or wants me to make a connector for them, let me know.
Yes, what a great job.
i am thinking the same thing, please tell us more information how to do that, and more pictures.
thank you.
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The sub-standard quality of the supplied earphones prompted me to look for a better alternative. The 2.5 to 3.5mm adaptor is a good one but it negates the use of the control console (phone buttons, mic., etc), so I decided to make my own connector which I fitted above the control console. I can now use any 'quality' headphones to listen to music and use the phone handsfree function.
Its pretty easy to do, if you know how to solder, which is not difficult in itself. If anyone wants more detail of what I did or wants me to make a connector for them, let me know.
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Superb!! Way to go, M8!
2.5 to 3.5 adaptor based on std earpiece
Please can you let me know how much, I want to use my sennheiser earphones.
Richard Racer
nice i wanted to make the same but a few things held me back
1 canabalizing the working headset could cause problems if the stereo wiring in the xda headset were poor quality and i could end up having to listen to music in the bus played by the normal speaker on the xda adding to the enjoyment of the rest of the pasangers
2 if the length of the mic and buttons had to be near my mouth the length of rest added headset would be added making me look like a d00d who were a bit too much into rubber and of cause the added lenght could cause music quality loss not that i would notice with the music i listen to
I would like to see the details and more pictures if possible. Thanks.
amaaaaaaaazing!! can you please show us how did you make it? :?:
well i asume he just strip the wires and solver them on to the connector of the female 3.5 minijack connector
not sure what he pictures should show some light on
I've been asked to formally write up the process and include further pictures. I shall be doing this this week and will post it when complete.
I would like to know how to do this also.
Don't waste your time soldering, and cutting, and fixing up your existing wires.
The wire is already available on the market.
I use in in my AUX-INPUT in my car so that the sound comes out the speaker system in my BMW, and the microphone remains enabled. The sound is fantastic. In addition, you can use the wire to listed attach to headphones, (listen to music) while the microphone stays enabled.
Here are the two places you can purchase the cable... (I am in no way affiliated to either).
www.arkon.com : the part number is ADPT04 - and it cost $9.95. You have to call in the order - it's not on their website. (it ended up costing me $13.95 shipping included - to CANADA!\)
www.handheldcanada.com - Same part number... different price (17.95 Canadian PLUS shipping).
Enjoy.
I didn't find here the pinout description of 2,5mm jack connector from XDA2.
There is stereo out, microphone in and two buttons.
I tried to buy 2,5mm connector, but it is not usable - connector itself fits to the XDA2, but the connector's body is too thick so the connector can not be fully plugged in.
So i bought some Nokia portable handsfree, which is also equipped with 2,5mm jack with four pins. So all i need is to know, how it should be connected.
I also bought a small plastic box, two 3,5mm stereo females and two little buttons. All of those things will be installed into that tiny box (plus the Nokia 2,5mm male connector). So this will work as an universal adaptor: from XDA2 to anything. I already bought big HiFi earphones with built-in microphone - it has two male 3,5mm jacks - one for stereosound, second for the microphone - so I'll be able to connect it to the XDA2 using my homemade tiny box and HiFi telephoning will become the reality ;-))
I'd also like to make a "homemade" simple car handsfree : I'll connect XDA's audio out to AudioIn on my car audio (also suitable for playing MP3 from XDA on car audio system). And I'll connect a standalone external microphone to XDA, microphone will be placed somewhere in the cabine.
Does it sound insane? Or realistic? Does anybody know the XDA2 jack pinout?
http://xda-developers.com/connectors/
this is xda1 but they are suppose to be able to use the same headphones
so it would help a bit
even though the xda1 dont support the 2 button thingy
Hey, as I trashed my cable I had to find out a little bit about the connecter
I write this from memory, so please handle with care ;-) :
from top to bottom
top ring - stereo out (left or right)
next ring - stereo out (right or left)
next - microphone in
next - ground
metallic ring in the inside of the connector - phone switch
By the way.. these pins are protect versus each other.. you'll have some tries..
Alex
The truth is that I can use the system connector instead of the 2,5mm jack.
AudioOut and MicrophoneIn pins are on the system connector as well...
So meybe I'll make SystemConnector-to-3,5mmJack adaptor ;-)
Or is there a difference?
Ehm..I had simply buyed a 2,5 to 3,5 Jack and cut a piece of it to fit into phone:
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Ehm..I had simply buyed a 2,5 to 3,5 Jack and cut a piece of it to fit into phone:
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Well, OK. But it is only a stereo out, you don't have a microphone in. I'd like both of them plus those two buttons (red and green phone button)...
http://pc-mobile.net/pxdaa.htm
this one have the mic but dont support the pickup and slam down of the phone
So meybe I'll make SystemConnector-to-3,5mmJack adaptor
Or is there a difference?
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well if you wanted to connect something else to the sysconnector you would not be able to connect something like charger or GPS
then imho it would make more sence using the 2.5 connection which cant be used for anything but sound anyway
Well, I am looking for such a device, but then one that will work with the XDA2/MDA2
Because I would like to use my own B&O headset, but would like to keep the phone function with microphone and answer buttons
So if somebody would like to spend an hour on the web for a detailed surch :wink:
make it your self...
takes less than 30 minutes (if you know how to use a solder iron)
I did it and I am trulty happy with it.
Alex
but is it not a problem that the lengh of the 3.5mm headset get added to the length of the wire from the device to the buttons and mic
i mean the mic need to be able to reach ones mough but the lenght from ones mouth to ones ears are not that long and with the added 3.5 mm headset lenght it would seme to become a wire mess?
Yes and No...
Yes if you do nothing.
No if you wrap it up a little.
well if you wrap the wire you will create a coil line effect
and that damage audio quality
just kidding i'm not a real audiophile
It seems that info in xda-developers.com/connectors/ is aplicable to XDA I.
XDAII headset has 2 buttons, answer and finish.
I'm specially interested in the 22pin pinout, that I've told IS DIFFERENT from the XDA I.
Can anybody point me with updated info on XDA II conneectors?
Thanks
vcp
xant give the wiring of the 2.5mm on the xda2 in this thread
about the 22pin connector then
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=3929&highlight=22pin+pinout
Xant said:
from top to bottom
top ring - stereo out (left or right)
next ring - stereo out (right or left)
next - microphone in
next - ground
metallic ring in the inside of the connector - phone switch
Alex
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Alex,
This is correct. The XDA II uses 5 pins instead of four. The switches are both connected to the 5th ring on the inside.
Until now, I wasn't able to find this connector.
Seems it's only used on the XDA II.
The diagram of the XDA I connector is correct, only the button isn't connected over the microphone to ground. So if you only need audio and mike, use that schematic.
Grtz,
Jos
Can anyone recomend a replacement for the standard stero handsfree kit that comes with the MDA Pro.
I've seen these http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/10098.htm, but was wondering if anyone knew of any better ones?
I'm also looking for such a headset. The one on your links looks nice, but is there a volume control on it? I can't see that.
The one in mobilefun.co.uk is just the same as the one came from the box.
There is no other alternative so far I could find....
Though I found one (and I ordered already) from
http://pc-mobile.net/pqtaa.htm
that is for a 3.5mm headphone/mic jack.
So, I will post again if this really fits the Universal....GOOD LUCK!!!
Cheers,
Yeah, the headset fits without any problem.
That is the same as the HP Ipaq 54xx/55xx/63xx/65xx, Toshiba e75x/80x.
Although its a bit expensive, USD33 including postage....
Cheers,
Just out of curiousity, what happened to your hands free kit that came with the unit, guys?
The original one comes with the package is excellent except that it is too lengthy and the pair of earphones always messes with others.
I would like to have a single lead earphone that I can change to stereo when I want.
So, the one that I just got is perfect but it is quite easily to be damage....
Cheers,
:twisted: :twisted: My over excited dog snagged them with a paw when I got home from work and I think she snapped the cable inside the sheathing.
Wired headset with headband with wires
Can anyone recommend a headset for the Universal that
IS NOT BLUETOOTH
Has a headband with good sized speakers, not earbuds and dangly wires
IS NOT BLUETOOTH
Microphone, PTT switch, volume
and isn't bluetooth? i.e. it's wired to the 4 pole jack?
Thanks
Nick
Hi Chris,
Thanks for the info!
I have one of this headset that I bought few years ago for my XDA/Wallaby (with the 2.5mm plug). Yes, its very easy to be damaged (very delicate) but yet mine is still functional until now. Some part of the wire is already torn and I have to put some tape on it.
I use it mainly to connect my XDA/Wallaby to my car stereo system.
Thanks that you share this info, now I know that there is a suitable version for the Universal as well.
Do you mind to confirm back that the headset indeed works perfectly with the Universal:
1. The call answer button
2. The microphone
3. Volume control
4. The stereo jack
I will definately get one if you can help clarify that every point is working fine. Thanks in advance.
Yeah. Everything is fine altough the answer key need more practices.
Good to hear that the info is usefual.
Cheers,
Thanks Chris!
The answer button, you just press it once to pick up a call right?
What special practice do you need?
I sticked my old one (for the XDA) in my car dashboard near the stereo system. So when the phone rings, I just press it once and the call then will be in the car speakers. The microphone is not that great, ppl usually complaint me that my voice is so low, but guess what, they indeed can hear me.
lie_ui said:
So when the phone rings, I just press it once and the call then will be in the car speakers. The microphone is not that great, ppl usually complaint me that my voice is so low, but guess what, they indeed can hear me.
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This is exactly what I'm trying to set up in my car,how do I do it? I tried using a splitter (one 3.5 mm male plug with two female 3.5mm openings) and running one end to my car stereo, and the audio from the call comes through the car speakers nicely but I can't use either the mic from the included (in the box) headset for voice nor will the device's mic work...
Any adaptors that will allow me to use proper 3.5 inch headphone jack in place of the mini USB ones ( i dont like the in ear phones) checked ebay and couldnt see anything?
you want get one of these http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=142090 - Mike
Ouch, that thing is both horribly badly designed and prohibitively expensive- it's going to stick out what looks like an inch by itself, most headphone plugs will add another inch on top of that- I need something that fits flush with the bottom of the phone (comes out at a right angle) AND supplies an input for the charger. One can only dream!
The orbit would make a great on-mains Wifi internet radio if such a gubbin existed- hook up some speakers, start TCPMP, sorted!
in which case if you don't like wires stop messing around and get a set of A2DP compatible headphones - the quality is very good, but far more costly than a cable addaptor - the choice is yours - Mike
Might have been worth while if I didn't use an iPod for all my portable audio needs- have you seen any A2DP compatible speakers around?
Looks like there are hacks out there, but no official products, the combination really would just turn the Orbit into an incredibly expensive Wifi radio! But where's the fun in just going out and buying a proper one!
Have a look at the products made by Parrot there are a few Bluetooth audio add on boxes, I fail to see the relevance to WiFi?? as the A2DP profile is Bluetooth - it even works on the T-Mobile MDA-CIII which has no WiFi - Mike
I say wifi radio because I listen to internet radio stations around the house using the Orbit, and the ol' tinternet comes via the wifi doohickey!
A2DP is, of course, a bluetooth profile and would be the method over which I get decent sounding audio from the Orbit to some speakers whilst still having the Orbit plugged into mains so the battery doesn't get sucked dry... that said I think the Orbit will last a good few hours streaming internet radio, although I have yet to put that to the test.
My other solution would be, as mentioned above, an adaptor that allows both the charger AND headset to be plugged in- I can't see this as being technically impossible.
With a brief cursory investigation I have discovered, I think, that the headset uses a proprietary 6-pin connection on the opposite side of the mini-usb connector. The headphones do not use the 4-pin standard mini-usb connector on the other side, but a connector that uses both should be reasonably simple to produce. Ergo it should be childs play for a third party to produce an Artemis dock that contains not only a connection to USB but a standard 3.5mm amplified microphone socket alongside a standard 3.5mm amplified stero audio jack... not to mention a button on the front of the dock for picking up calls and a volume slider if you really wanted them.
Call me crazy, but I want one of those!
You could try this
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=145066
Might do the trick even if it is a bit long
Rich
Dear lord! You've made my day! Hmmm, a little jiggery pokery and I might even be able to incorporate that into a dock but it'll be fantastic for charging and listening to net radio at work- takes that little extra load off my desktop PC.
Cheers!
Glad I could help
richiev4 said:
You could try this
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=145066
Might do the trick even if it is a bit long
Rich
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Hi,
Does anyone know if the above would work with a set of mini stereo speakers with a 3.5mm headphone jack (like the walkman speakers i used to have, back in the day...) to listen to the FM radio while charging the phone from mains? Or would you still need the headphones plugged into get any FM reception?
Daft question maybe, but I wondered whether the device would just use the speaker wires as an antenna instead of the headphone wires?
It will work fine, I am going to use mine to connect my orbit to my home stereo and charge it at the same time.
Rich
2.5mm 3 pole jack plug
Hi,
Anybody know of an Artemis mini usb to 2.5mm 3 pole jack plug adapter which allows the connection to deliver audio and microphone capability ?
I would like to connet my Artemis/Orbit to the Autocom intercom system on my motorcycle . This uses a lead with a 2.5mm jack plug at the phone end and a 3.5mm jack at the Autocom system end. Both are 3 pole.
Thanks
P.S. hope you don't mind me jumping in your postings
http://www.expansys.com/s.aspx
try doing a search for "2.5mm"
A very good Items for the Artemis on EbaY :
look :
http://cgi.ebay.fr/FOR-ORANGE-SPV-E...ryZ14419QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
2.5mm 3 pole jack plug adatper
I think I've found exactly what I'm looking for at:
http://igonemobile.com/products/html/61315310.html
I've got one on order and I'll let you know if it works.
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Hi,
Anybody know of an Artemis mini usb to 2.5mm 3 pole jack plug adapter which allows the connection to deliver audio and microphone capability ?
I would like to connet my Artemis/Orbit to the Autocom intercom system on my motorcycle . This uses a lead with a 2.5mm jack plug at the phone end and a 3.5mm jack at the Autocom system end. Both are 3 pole.
Thanks
P.S. hope you don't mind me jumping in your postings
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Is this so you can listen to music from the Orbit? I've had difficulty on my bike with this...music cuts out and wont restart after phone call is over. In the end, I bought the Autocom bluetooth dongle and now bluetooth the Orbit to the bike. I get phone calls and GPS just fine, but I use a wired iPod for music.
cegmawr said:
I think I've found exactly what I'm looking for at:
http://igonemobile.com/products/html/61315310.html
I've got one on order and I'll let you know if it works.
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Does this support the Artemis? It isn't in the list....
There was a posting for the mini USB PinOut some Time ago. Look in the wiki Section to find it. Here is what they showed up with.
Maybe This will Help someone to build their own Adapter or whatsoever.
Greetings
Jabami
so what was the general concensus with using Autocom? Did the 2.5mm jack work?
I want to avoid using the bluetooth option on autocom, since I might just as well go for a Scala bluetooth headset instead if the jack doesnt work...
Hello,
I'm interested to know more about wired headset.
I need it for answering when ride my moto. (this is why I don't need BT headset - but I have it)
Well, here in My country i didn't found a headset for Uni, because they are too rare.. and Uni have an 3,5mm jack, not 2,5mm as used in lot of gsm phones.
So, if anyone has skematiks, how to build headset for Uni from other type of stereo headset, I would apreciate it.
Thanks in advance.
Basically, you can just buy a normal headset, then replace only the jack. All headsets (should) have the same impendance(did I spell that right?), so no modification to the headset itself should be needed.
Just get a 3.5mm 3-channel(not the general one, you need the extra channel for the mic...but I guess you already know that) jack from an electronics store, cut off the original, identify the wires used(using a multimeter, or linking it up to another cable playing music), and splice on the new 3.5 mm one used. Just be sure to insulate the wire joints well so they won't accidentally short-circuit.
There: one 3.5mm headset, ready for use. Maybe slap on some cosmetics to the joint, so it won't look that ugly and homemade(a heat-shrink tube should do the trick, along with some padding to give it a some taper like those on factory-made jacks.
Good luck with your MacGyvering, mate!
Very thank you..
Your idea is super.. the only thing is that I never seen a 3,5mm jack with 3 chanells.. but I will search for it..
After I will do the trick will post back the results.
P.S. as subject of meditation.. did you ever seen another phone model which use a 3,5mm jack at headset?