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Integrate Universal into car speakers

Just bought a car...
Added a little Brodit powered cradle for the Universal + GPS device.
Now I want to have it talk sexily to me through the car speakers... how might I go about doing this?
I've not really seen a car kit for the Jaguar XJ6, but I suppose this would be a good bet?
Thanks!
Ferg.

Hey, I've got a '97 Jag XJ, I had to make my carkit from separate bits. Don't have the Universal but Imate Jam- principle is the same I guess
Check out my post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=36123&highlight=
Charges my device as well as outputting all sound to car speakers.

Nice one sh,
Mine's a 97 too. Bloody nice beast.
I'll check out your instructions, although am I right in thinking this doesn't have a microphone or anything? I'm new to car kits etc so excuse my ignorance, but does this not hinder the thing a bit?
What does this setup NOT allow you to do?
Thanks again,
Ferg.

Well because I was too tight to buy a full carkit- I made my own (yes I do own the Jag- matter of principle for me!)
Well I've haven't spoken much about the audio side of things in that post... but all I've got is a 3.5mm to RCA cable going into the back of my car stereo.
There is also a 2.5 to 3.5mm adapter to accept the connection on the JAM. Now, you can get these adapters with built-in mics:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-5mm-to-3-5m...714269100QQcategoryZ14419QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I don't need it because I have my personal bluetooth kit when in car. So thats the only thing 'missing' if you like- although I've setup it up so I can change this adapter for any type that has 3.5mm on one end.
Send me a link to the holder that you've got- I take it doesn't have an audio out on it?

i made up my own too for the charmer, dont own a jag and havent wired it into the stereo but have stashed a set of "ipod" type speakers under the dash instead.
not wanting to play audio but just wanting to have handsfree use of phone and amplified audio from sat nav.
not running it through the sterao also means the missus and kids are happy with the radio/cd playing and i still get to hear the satnav guidance.
i bought a couple of incar mics and soldered the whole lot up onto a butchered wired headset (the one that came with the charmer)
details http://www.modaco.com/hardwired-incar-handsfree-the-diy-way-t240297.html
although i still havent got round to putting up pics yet

Alternative way to mount Universal in your car

If you want to know where I got this idea, you should see this one first:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=314731#314731
I found this way of mounting my Wallaby last year, very effective and cheap and secure. So, last weekend, I tried to mount my Universal the same way. Its kind of hard, as my Universal metal case has different size of its belt clip mounting pin. So I have to put another belt clip to my car. I was finally moving the Cruise Control button to the right and use that middle spot that was occupied by the Cruise Control before to put on the Universal belt clip. And now the Universal can be mounted exactly in the middle. I do not have the audio connector yet, but I have located one that look exactly like my Wallaby one, but with 3.5mm plug.
Hope this will give some idea to some of you. Btw, I could mount my Universal with its silicon case on, but taking the padding inside the metal case out. So my metal case now primarily used as a mounting place in my car now.

Nice set up. Do you know yet of the PQTAA ( http://pc-mobile.net/pqtaa.htm ) will allow you to run audio from a call through your car speakers while still using the mic?

yes, this is exactly the one i'm getting. exactly the same as shown in my picture above, but with 3.5 mm plug. my old one, with 2.5 mm plug, works perfectly with my wallaby for few years now.

lie_ui said:
yes, this is exactly the one i'm getting. exactly the same as shown in my picture above, but with 3.5 mm plug. my old one, with 2.5 mm plug, works perfectly with my wallaby for few years now.
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I'm just still worried that the mic will not be enabled on the Universal... Please do let me know if you've tested this on a Universal.

I just received this email back from the manufacturer (Pc-Mobile) of that headset (it regards to it working with the Universal):
"If it has a 3.5mm audio jack then PTAMS/PQTAA COULD be compatible but there
is no guarantee as the every manufacturer may use different pin configurations."
I'm wondering if I should just roll the dice and place an order?

galt said:
I just received this email back from the manufacturer (Pc-Mobile) of that headset (it regards to it working with the Universal):
"If it has a 3.5mm audio jack then PTAMS/PQTAA COULD be compatible but there
is no guarantee as the every manufacturer may use different pin configurations."
I'm wondering if I should just roll the dice and place an order?
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I like to add that, unlike phones with 2.5mm audio jacks, which may have different pin configurations from different manufacturers, phones/pda with 3.5mm audio jacks are likely to use the same configuration.
It is because the jack is to be used for ALL headphones with 3.5mm plug so they must be the same.
The only variable is the ground/mic configuration.
All current PDAs with a 3.5mm audio jack with mic (Ipaq/Loox/Axim) use the same PTAMS/PQTAA ok.

I will be getting the PQTAA from PC-Mobile and will report the compatibility with the Universal once I have and test it out.

lie_ui said:
I will be getting the PQTAA from PC-Mobile and will report the compatibility with the Universal once I have and test it out.
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Thanks Lie_ui. I also have ordered this, hope it works out...

PQTAA works with Universal!
Good news. I received the PQTAA from PC-Mobile and it works with the Universal! I have tested all functions with my Universal:
- Stereo audio output is carried perfectly to the car stereo, no noise whatsoever.
- Microphone is working great, my voice can be heard clearly.
- The call receive button on the unit is working ok too to receive/pick up incoming call.
This is a great audio adapter (in addition to the fact its a handsfree unit). I find its a lot better way to connect the Universal to the car audio system rather than using other method like BT.
As most car mounting solutions do not include audio adapter to connect the Universal to the car audio system, the PQTAA is a perfect solution.
If you have a cassete player, you can combine it with the casette adapter. If you have an AUX input in your car stereo, thats the best.

Thanks for the info Lei. I also received mine today, haven't been able to really test it out, but it seems nice and it does function as required. Finally!

I finally got a chance to try mine out. The PQTAA works FANTASTICALLY with the Universal!
I tried it in my car, with air conditioning running full blast - the call came in, I was able to answer and hang up using the button on the adaptor. The call was perfectly clear over the car speakers, even with the volume turned up very high the caller reported zero echo from their own voice. They were able to hear me very well even with the mic unit dangling from the rear view mirror (not clipped to my shirt).
Excellent work by PC-Mobile! http://www.pc-mobile.net/pqtaa.htm

can someone tell me step by step ob how to connect universal to car audio ( cd player) what stuff do i need ?
cheers for any info
cudo

cudo said:
can someone tell me step by step ob how to connect universal to car audio ( cd player) what stuff do i need ?
cheers for any info
cudo
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If youve got a cassette player then buy one of those audio cassettes (Sony does a great one) that includes a cable to plug into the headphone socket on the universal.
Then just start your audio player on the universal and the sound is routed through to your car player.
Hope thats what you meant
Matt

thanks for the idea but I have got only cd player..and it has no aux input.is there any chance to onnect my uni to car audio?
cheers, cudo

Here are some options to connect Uni to a car stereo:
1. If the car stereo has AUX input, this is the best.
Get the adapter we discussed above (PQTAA) and connect it from your Uni then link it to your car AUX input. If you connect it directly from the Uni to your AUX input without that adapter, you only get audio routed to the car audio system, but you will not be able to accept phone calls as a normal audio plug will disable the Uni internal microphone.
2. No AUX input, but has casette player, get the casette adapter. I used this in the past and it worked well, too, until I decided to get an MP3 car stereo and then I made sure I got the one with AUX input.
You will also need to the PQTAA adapter.
3. No AUX input, no cassette, only CD....
You better have FM radio, as this is your last option.
Get a FM transmitter, plus the PQTAA adapter. You will feed the audio through the FM to your car audio system. I used this method before and I did not really like it as its kind of troublesome, you have to turn on the FM transmitter, then select the macthing frequency in your car radio, etc. And in my city, its very hard to find unoccupied frequency, thus I always got bad interference with other radio stations.
4. If you do not like connected/cabled mode, then go with Bluetooth.
You car audio must have an AUX input, though. Get a Bluetooth adapter like this one:
http://www.usglobalsat.com/item.asp?itemid=98
Then connect it to the car AUX input. This way, you do not need to plug something to your Uni and can keep it inside your case/purse.
5. Finally, none works for you, and you would like to upgrade your car audio system, then get the new one that has the Bluetooth. This is the cleanest and best solution I guess.
I was looking at this one:
http://www.parrot.biz/products/index.php?id=rhythmnblue
This one even can sync your Contacts and it has a dial pad in the car audio system. Very nice.
Hope this shines you up.

hi Guys,
Yeah been installing plenty of Parrot kits (LS3200, CK3100 and LS3400 with GPS) for the Exec and Mini s etc.
The parrot kits also have a microphone and audio mute, you may need an SOT audio lead depending on your cars configuration, but these kits are simply superb, call quality is fantastic, syncs all your contacts, and the LS range have colour screens with Voice recognition on all.
I can supply these and install them in the UK if your interested, other than that google or ask a local installer nearer to your location,
Ill be Fitting an Exec with a LS3200 soon, ill try and take some images and upload if anyone interested.....basically with the parrot kit, you get the best of both worlds, a nokia style car kit at last for phone based PDAs like the Xda Exec,
Hope that helps,
Bryson

Is there no way to control the mic from being turned off when you plug in normal headphones? This is what I posted in another thread I created:
Hello everyone.
I have a great pair of wired headphones that I love to use for watching movies and listening to mp3's... noise canceling, enhanced bass, extended range, the works... =)
The only problem though is that when I get an incoming call on gsm, there is no way to listen to the call from the headphones and still use the built-in mic of the universal. I'm forced to unplug the headphones and just use the jasjar's built-in speakers like a regular phone. This is especially horrible on the bus, train, etc.
Funny thing is if I use skype on the jasjar, I can hear out of my great headphones and still talk through the built-in mic... i recorded a few voice notes using the built-in mic while having the headphones plugged in the universal...
clearly, from this... the function is available?
but how do I do this using the gsm phone?
I suppose you may want os details and such... I'm using the newest official i-mate jasjar rom
Thanks in advance!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=278604

I can confirm that your findings are indeed true. Other than the phone, other applications that use the microphone (such as Voice Recorder) works regardless there is a normal headphone plugged in or not.
I guess you are right, there should be a way to tweak the OS to enable the microphone all times.
In a meanwhile, the adapter we discussed above would solve your problem too. (It has a microphone and a normal 3.5mm headphone socket).

How to make our own Headset to use with Universal

Anyone interested in this topic to advice to make our own Headset

Count me in
I would be interested. The headset supplied is not very good: the earpieces don't stay in place to get the best sound and the wires are to 'wirey', ie they're not soft enough, and they don't lay straight.
I had seen before someone had taken the Nokia hands-free headphones (similar to the Universals, with a central piece with a mic and button on) and they manages to fit a tiny 2.5mm stereo socket in it, so any standard headphones would plug in. But on the Universals, I don't think there's room.

www.remtrak.com sell 4-way Jack Plugs (3.5MM Angled or Straight) so we could feasibly manufacture our own, with the corrct pin out.
L, R, GND, Mic - But which is which?!
I have an old 80's BT Viscount Handset removed from it's phone base and itching for headset duties. . .

shaju said:
Anyone interested in this topic to advice to make our own Headset
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Instead of making one how about one of these?
http://pc-mobile.net/pxuaa.htm
Matt

I don't see how that helps me hook up a Pokia, Novophone, or connect my own home-made devices. But good link for Non-Geeks!

any good stereo headsets? pls recommend

i have a ****ty headset.. ears hurt, head hurts, n everything else juss seems annoying.. i love smaller more comfortable, stereo headsets.. any recommendations.. please give me links from ebay if the item is available over there.. all feedback is highly appreciated..

Try the motorola s9 stereo blue tooth headsets. I know they are expensive and all, but they are pretty decent looking for a stereo bluetooth headset, most of which are have been pretty ugly so far. Here are the reviews. I am planning to buy one myself.
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-MOTO...6208?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1182306778&sr=8-1
I know you might not be looking for wireless headset but I think they will become very popular in near future, given that most mp3 phones now support that a2dp functionality. Anyway thats my 2 c.

I don't know, but what do you people think of this one?
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.4301
The site also has many other OEM bluetooth, if you're looking, but I wonder about this headset.
Edit: yea, i stupidly bought it, tell u it doesn't work, cause of 11 pin usb.

Doesn't work
jincongz said:
I don't know, but what do you people think of this one?
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.4301
The site also has many other OEM bluetooth, if you're looking, but I wonder about this headset.
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Hello. Unfortunately this type of headset (with mini usb) does not work with Prophet. I tried with a RAZR adapter and no sound... The link also does not included Dopod 818 (aka Prophet).

My recomendation is Jabra BT620s http://cgi.ebay.com/New-OEM-Jabra-Handsfree-Bluetooth-Stereo-Headset-BT620s_W0QQitemZ140151107677QQihZ004QQcategoryZ133228QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
This is a BT Headset, the sound is very good and work fine with Propert.
I've this one and recomended.
See you.

Anyone know good ones that i can buy online, with wire.

Stereo headset
I did a lot of looking around before I bought my headset, and in the end chose the Plantronics Pulsar 590a. It kicks ass! It comes with a REALLY nice case, a headphone jack bluetooth transmitter (for your cassette walkman), an extra microphone extention arm, an inflight cable for use without Bluetooth, a wall and USB charger and a nice desktop stand.
Performance with the Prophet is great. If I'm listening to music and a call comes in, it switches over to Hands-free mode and I can touch the phone button on the earpiece to answer. After the call is over, the music comes back automatically. The earpiece remote also allows for voice-dail, switching tracks and mute/volume adjustment.
I did manage to fry mine by trying to charge it with the USB charger cable plugged into a car cigarette lighter style USB adapter. After that they would no longer charge. I didn't want to deal with the company I bought them from, so I called Plantronics direct. They wanted a scanned copy of the recipt, and when I sent it, I recieved an answer which said that a new unit has been shipped, and to please dispose of the old one. 2 days later I had my new headphones! Now that's service!
The only other complaint that I have with the product is the blue light on the earpiece. It kind of draws a lot of attention, but I love them! Best headset I ever owned!

Mine is a Dell BH200.. works fine..

expansys.com have tons of converters so one can use any 3.5mm minijack headsets
though not with mic i think
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Motorola-MO...8?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1194653052&sr=8-1
this one seems insanely cheap not sure if it's good or even works with htc pdas but cheap

i use a coverter so i can use ordanery headphones for music, not to bothered about using it for calls

pairing bt headset for music
hi. I need help. Have bought a cheepo BSH01 BT stereo headset. Looks fine and works perfectly with calls. Can't get it to work with music though. Any clues? I have a O2 converted to PM300 WM5 (ROM 2.13.9.21 ITA radio 02.07.20). Something to do with a2dp? any player that I might use instead of wmp?
Thanks

i have buyied this http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350027412931
what you think?

Wired Headset

I brought the AT&T version of the Glide and it didn't come with a wired headset. I've tried a headset for a Galaxy S, but the buttons didn't work. Could anyone with the Rogers headset ( I think it comes with one) share the model number, or if anyone else has a working let me know where I can source one?
Thanks!

I have the headset in my hand that you are mentioning but I do not see any model number anywhere to help you out. All I see is a Samsung logo on each ear piece as well as a Large L or R. On the Wire where it splits from 1 to 2 wires (1 for each ear) there is a small Made in China written on it. No other writing can be seen.

Damn, thanks anyway
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I have the headset in my hand that you are mentioning but I do not see any model number anywhere to help you out. All I see is a Samsung logo on each ear piece as well as a Large L or R. On the Wire where it splits from 1 to 2 wires (1 for each ear) there is a small Made in China written on it. No other writing can be seen.
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i suggest you use a stereo bluetooth headset instead.

taiber2000 said:
i suggest you use a stereo Bluetooth headset instead.
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Good idea except it is slightly more expensive....Depends on the person's budget.

i think you can get a sony one for under 50 dollars torugh ebay. and its prety good. and the model that i have i can exgane the ear plug it self to other earphones.

I am currently using the HTC Desire Z wired headset.
Sound works
Mic works
Play/pause button works
Back and forward buttons are recognized as vol - and +
https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=HTC+RC+E160

EMegamanu said:
I am currently using the HTC Desire Z wired headset.
Sound works
Mic works
Play/pause button works
Back and forward buttons are recognized as vol - and +
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Awesome, might give that a go, thanks!

withthat saied maybe other wierd headsets with 3.5 PL (3 input plug) will work.

taiber2000 said:
withthat saied maybe other wierd headsets with 3.5 PL (3 input plug) will work.
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I tried one from a Galaxy S and that didn't want to work.

you know that its preety starnge that the desire z one worked and the galaxy s one didnt.

EMegamanu said:
I am currently using the HTC Desire Z wired headset.
Sound works
Mic works
Play/pause button works
Back and forward buttons are recognized as vol - and +
https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=HTC+RC+E160
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Interesting I did not know that the PLAY and Forward/Revers works from a Wired headset. That is good to know.
Thanks.

I bought these Samsung earbuds and use them along with Jays Headset Control from the Play store. Thanks to the app the one answer button can handle all music controls and even initiate voice actions.

Here are some from Samsung:
http://www.shopandroid.com/samsung-ehs60-35mm-stereo-headset/11A29A9345.htm
Didn't tried them, but since they're said to be made for the Captivate Glide, they should work.

Finally got around to grabbing the HTC ones and they're working fine. Audio quality is half decent too.

Desire headset isn't working on calls for me. I hear fine but the other side says the sound is terrible.

Hope this helps

Samsung galaxy one and newer Samsung phones use two different 3.5 mm jack
The newer jack like on gs2&3 are more standards. The remote doesn't work because on gs1 it's wired different.
As of today
Samsung
Htc
Sony (not Sony Ericsson)
Use the same Standards 3.5mm jack
So of buy a htc ear headphone it work on all 3 companies
( i don't know about other companies)

The model no of the headset that comes with captivate glide rogers is GH59-10419E.

Any mention of headset in the glide manual talks about micro USB.
(Drowning in google search results, most of which don't apply [Why do they assume if you want an adapter you want a crappy / cheap earbud headset too?]. So posting here to start from a list of those who have a glide and specific experience!)
Messages here seem to indicate that standard 3 connector, 2.5mm cordless phone headsets work. Can anyone confirm?
(I tried a friend's 3.5mm headset, got audio, but only for media not for anything else, per playing with settings / audio. It also has an additional doohickey / adapter where the headphones plug into a mic adapter, which in turn plugs into the 3.5mm jack instead of the headphones, directly - when using that not even media came through.)
(And even when audio came through, the navigator voice didn't come through, as it did not on a bluetooth headset. I can't hear the navigator across the car - how to get it to play to a headset?)
Source of a 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter known to work?
Or 2.5mm to micro usb adapter?
Let alone, pc headset, 2 x 3.5mm, to micro usb adapter?
Thanks for any pointers / good search terms to known good working beasties, drowning in search results.
I need yet another crappy headset like I need ... druther just use one I already know and like and adapt it to the glide.
I'm guessing an adapter would need buttons on it for talk (and / or volume?).
I see on amazon there's a straight micro usb to 3.5mm adapter however I suspect it would be audio only (yes?), and worried that since it's a solid doohickey, not two ends separated by wire, that some end would get easily broken.
Advice, thoughts, experiences?