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XDA with MP3 & Satnav in car

I'm looking at getting this carcomm cradle as my in car solution for my XDA2 : http://www.totalpda.co.uk/product4740_0.aspx
As i understand it, assuming I correctly wire the cradle kit to my headunit's telemute cable, when a call comes in, my stereo will be muted/paused and the cradle's speakers & mic will kick in. I gather TOMTOM instructions will work the same way.
I also have a Sony headunit with an Aux in. I'd like to use the stereo headset jack to play all that MP3 goodness into my stereo. This should reduce the amount i spend on CDR's
My question is whether having the headphone jack plugged in will stop the car kit from getting the phone call audio when a call comes in. Will the XDA try to take mic in from the headset jack or the car kit. Or will it end up dazed and confused, and slump in the footwell of my car nibbling it's toenails and rocking slowly backwards and forwards? Come to that, will I?
Hope this makes sense

I can't help you, but I enjoyed the question...
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I have roughly the same setup you have, except the car cradle is only used for charging. I have all audio (TomTom, MP3 and phone) from the headset jack, including mic.
Works like a charm, you don't really need a carkit as you can feed all audio to the car stereo

I had a look at that carcomm set. It looks like the cradle blocks the headset jack of the XDA !

For mp3 audio and phone audio, I use a very cheap device called "car baby". This consists of a small clip on device with led and on/off switch. The device is rechargable and comes with lighter plug. Basically you just go to a blank preset on your in car radio, play audio on your xda 2, then tune radio to pick up the audio, the volume on the xda 2 needs to be pretty low to prevent distortion, once setup all audio is routed through the radio allowing very reasonable hands free phone calls and mp3 playback. It also comes with a nice little mount for a phone which has suction or vent mount adaptors, this isnt big enough for xda 2 but it looks very neat and will work with lots of normal size phones. I think it works on fm frequency around 106mhz.

Thanks for your feedback guys.
@ pleun - I was planning on 'modifying' the cradle to either present me with access to the jack socket or to actually plug in a jack, but this would have to be fairly flexible as the jack is obviously at an unhelpful angle.
@cruisin-thru & pleun (again) - thanks for the ideas, My only concern is that I don't really want to have to switch the headunit to a FM channel or the Aux channel when a call comes in - too much distraction when driving. It would be fine if i was only going to be playing MP3's but i will want to continue to use the CD or radio from time to time!

your questions answered.....
hey....please read my post in this forum......How to listen to all sound via a car kit[/url]

Integrate Universal into car speakers

Just bought a car...
Added a little Brodit powered cradle for the Universal + GPS device.
Now I want to have it talk sexily to me through the car speakers... how might I go about doing this?
I've not really seen a car kit for the Jaguar XJ6, but I suppose this would be a good bet?
Thanks!
Ferg.

Hey, I've got a '97 Jag XJ, I had to make my carkit from separate bits. Don't have the Universal but Imate Jam- principle is the same I guess
Check out my post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=36123&highlight=
Charges my device as well as outputting all sound to car speakers.

Nice one sh,
Mine's a 97 too. Bloody nice beast.
I'll check out your instructions, although am I right in thinking this doesn't have a microphone or anything? I'm new to car kits etc so excuse my ignorance, but does this not hinder the thing a bit?
What does this setup NOT allow you to do?
Thanks again,
Ferg.

Well because I was too tight to buy a full carkit- I made my own (yes I do own the Jag- matter of principle for me!)
Well I've haven't spoken much about the audio side of things in that post... but all I've got is a 3.5mm to RCA cable going into the back of my car stereo.
There is also a 2.5 to 3.5mm adapter to accept the connection on the JAM. Now, you can get these adapters with built-in mics:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-5mm-to-3-5m...714269100QQcategoryZ14419QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I don't need it because I have my personal bluetooth kit when in car. So thats the only thing 'missing' if you like- although I've setup it up so I can change this adapter for any type that has 3.5mm on one end.
Send me a link to the holder that you've got- I take it doesn't have an audio out on it?

i made up my own too for the charmer, dont own a jag and havent wired it into the stereo but have stashed a set of "ipod" type speakers under the dash instead.
not wanting to play audio but just wanting to have handsfree use of phone and amplified audio from sat nav.
not running it through the sterao also means the missus and kids are happy with the radio/cd playing and i still get to hear the satnav guidance.
i bought a couple of incar mics and soldered the whole lot up onto a butchered wired headset (the one that came with the charmer)
details http://www.modaco.com/hardwired-incar-handsfree-the-diy-way-t240297.html
although i still havent got round to putting up pics yet

Wanted: A Wired stereo hands free kit.

Can anyone recomend a replacement for the standard stero handsfree kit that comes with the MDA Pro.
I've seen these http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/10098.htm, but was wondering if anyone knew of any better ones?

I'm also looking for such a headset. The one on your links looks nice, but is there a volume control on it? I can't see that.

The one in mobilefun.co.uk is just the same as the one came from the box.
There is no other alternative so far I could find....
Though I found one (and I ordered already) from
http://pc-mobile.net/pqtaa.htm
that is for a 3.5mm headphone/mic jack.
So, I will post again if this really fits the Universal....GOOD LUCK!!!
Cheers,

Yeah, the headset fits without any problem.
That is the same as the HP Ipaq 54xx/55xx/63xx/65xx, Toshiba e75x/80x.
Although its a bit expensive, USD33 including postage....
Cheers,

Just out of curiousity, what happened to your hands free kit that came with the unit, guys?

The original one comes with the package is excellent except that it is too lengthy and the pair of earphones always messes with others.
I would like to have a single lead earphone that I can change to stereo when I want.
So, the one that I just got is perfect but it is quite easily to be damage....
Cheers,

:twisted: :twisted: My over excited dog snagged them with a paw when I got home from work and I think she snapped the cable inside the sheathing.

Wired headset with headband with wires
Can anyone recommend a headset for the Universal that
IS NOT BLUETOOTH
Has a headband with good sized speakers, not earbuds and dangly wires
IS NOT BLUETOOTH
Microphone, PTT switch, volume
and isn't bluetooth? i.e. it's wired to the 4 pole jack?
Thanks
Nick

Hi Chris,
Thanks for the info!
I have one of this headset that I bought few years ago for my XDA/Wallaby (with the 2.5mm plug). Yes, its very easy to be damaged (very delicate) but yet mine is still functional until now. Some part of the wire is already torn and I have to put some tape on it.
I use it mainly to connect my XDA/Wallaby to my car stereo system.
Thanks that you share this info, now I know that there is a suitable version for the Universal as well.
Do you mind to confirm back that the headset indeed works perfectly with the Universal:
1. The call answer button
2. The microphone
3. Volume control
4. The stereo jack
I will definately get one if you can help clarify that every point is working fine. Thanks in advance.

Yeah. Everything is fine altough the answer key need more practices.
Good to hear that the info is usefual.
Cheers,

Thanks Chris!
The answer button, you just press it once to pick up a call right?
What special practice do you need?
I sticked my old one (for the XDA) in my car dashboard near the stereo system. So when the phone rings, I just press it once and the call then will be in the car speakers. The microphone is not that great, ppl usually complaint me that my voice is so low, but guess what, they indeed can hear me.

lie_ui said:
So when the phone rings, I just press it once and the call then will be in the car speakers. The microphone is not that great, ppl usually complaint me that my voice is so low, but guess what, they indeed can hear me.
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This is exactly what I'm trying to set up in my car,how do I do it? I tried using a splitter (one 3.5 mm male plug with two female 3.5mm openings) and running one end to my car stereo, and the audio from the call comes through the car speakers nicely but I can't use either the mic from the included (in the box) headset for voice nor will the device's mic work...

Mini USB > 3.5 Jack?

Any adaptors that will allow me to use proper 3.5 inch headphone jack in place of the mini USB ones ( i dont like the in ear phones) checked ebay and couldnt see anything?

you want get one of these http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=142090 - Mike

Ouch, that thing is both horribly badly designed and prohibitively expensive- it's going to stick out what looks like an inch by itself, most headphone plugs will add another inch on top of that- I need something that fits flush with the bottom of the phone (comes out at a right angle) AND supplies an input for the charger. One can only dream!
The orbit would make a great on-mains Wifi internet radio if such a gubbin existed- hook up some speakers, start TCPMP, sorted!

in which case if you don't like wires stop messing around and get a set of A2DP compatible headphones - the quality is very good, but far more costly than a cable addaptor - the choice is yours - Mike

Might have been worth while if I didn't use an iPod for all my portable audio needs- have you seen any A2DP compatible speakers around?
Looks like there are hacks out there, but no official products, the combination really would just turn the Orbit into an incredibly expensive Wifi radio! But where's the fun in just going out and buying a proper one!

Have a look at the products made by Parrot there are a few Bluetooth audio add on boxes, I fail to see the relevance to WiFi?? as the A2DP profile is Bluetooth - it even works on the T-Mobile MDA-CIII which has no WiFi - Mike

I say wifi radio because I listen to internet radio stations around the house using the Orbit, and the ol' tinternet comes via the wifi doohickey!
A2DP is, of course, a bluetooth profile and would be the method over which I get decent sounding audio from the Orbit to some speakers whilst still having the Orbit plugged into mains so the battery doesn't get sucked dry... that said I think the Orbit will last a good few hours streaming internet radio, although I have yet to put that to the test.
My other solution would be, as mentioned above, an adaptor that allows both the charger AND headset to be plugged in- I can't see this as being technically impossible.
With a brief cursory investigation I have discovered, I think, that the headset uses a proprietary 6-pin connection on the opposite side of the mini-usb connector. The headphones do not use the 4-pin standard mini-usb connector on the other side, but a connector that uses both should be reasonably simple to produce. Ergo it should be childs play for a third party to produce an Artemis dock that contains not only a connection to USB but a standard 3.5mm amplified microphone socket alongside a standard 3.5mm amplified stero audio jack... not to mention a button on the front of the dock for picking up calls and a volume slider if you really wanted them.
Call me crazy, but I want one of those!

You could try this
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=145066
Might do the trick even if it is a bit long
Rich

Dear lord! You've made my day! Hmmm, a little jiggery pokery and I might even be able to incorporate that into a dock but it'll be fantastic for charging and listening to net radio at work- takes that little extra load off my desktop PC.
Cheers!

Glad I could help

richiev4 said:
You could try this
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=145066
Might do the trick even if it is a bit long
Rich
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Hi,
Does anyone know if the above would work with a set of mini stereo speakers with a 3.5mm headphone jack (like the walkman speakers i used to have, back in the day...) to listen to the FM radio while charging the phone from mains? Or would you still need the headphones plugged into get any FM reception?
Daft question maybe, but I wondered whether the device would just use the speaker wires as an antenna instead of the headphone wires?

It will work fine, I am going to use mine to connect my orbit to my home stereo and charge it at the same time.
Rich

2.5mm 3 pole jack plug
Hi,
Anybody know of an Artemis mini usb to 2.5mm 3 pole jack plug adapter which allows the connection to deliver audio and microphone capability ?
I would like to connet my Artemis/Orbit to the Autocom intercom system on my motorcycle . This uses a lead with a 2.5mm jack plug at the phone end and a 3.5mm jack at the Autocom system end. Both are 3 pole.
Thanks
P.S. hope you don't mind me jumping in your postings

http://www.expansys.com/s.aspx
try doing a search for "2.5mm"

A very good Items for the Artemis on EbaY :
look :
http://cgi.ebay.fr/FOR-ORANGE-SPV-E...ryZ14419QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

2.5mm 3 pole jack plug adatper
I think I've found exactly what I'm looking for at:
http://igonemobile.com/products/html/61315310.html
I've got one on order and I'll let you know if it works.

cegmawr said:
Hi,
Anybody know of an Artemis mini usb to 2.5mm 3 pole jack plug adapter which allows the connection to deliver audio and microphone capability ?
I would like to connet my Artemis/Orbit to the Autocom intercom system on my motorcycle . This uses a lead with a 2.5mm jack plug at the phone end and a 3.5mm jack at the Autocom system end. Both are 3 pole.
Thanks
P.S. hope you don't mind me jumping in your postings
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Is this so you can listen to music from the Orbit? I've had difficulty on my bike with this...music cuts out and wont restart after phone call is over. In the end, I bought the Autocom bluetooth dongle and now bluetooth the Orbit to the bike. I get phone calls and GPS just fine, but I use a wired iPod for music.

cegmawr said:
I think I've found exactly what I'm looking for at:
http://igonemobile.com/products/html/61315310.html
I've got one on order and I'll let you know if it works.
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Does this support the Artemis? It isn't in the list....

There was a posting for the mini USB PinOut some Time ago. Look in the wiki Section to find it. Here is what they showed up with.
Maybe This will Help someone to build their own Adapter or whatsoever.
Greetings
Jabami

so what was the general concensus with using Autocom? Did the 2.5mm jack work?
I want to avoid using the bluetooth option on autocom, since I might just as well go for a Scala bluetooth headset instead if the jack doesnt work...

Internal speaker/mic with headphones?

Does anyone know of a way to use the internal speaker/mic on the TP2 with headphones attached?
I want to use the Brodit 3-in-1 car adapter, but this connects to the TP2 as if it's a set of headphones, so the internal speaker is muted (no sat nav directions). Is there some registry switch which can get the audio to come via the internal speaker as normal?

elyl said:
Does anyone know of a way to use the internal speaker/mic on the TP2 with headphones attached?
I want to use the Brodit 3-in-1 car adapter, but this connects to the TP2 as if it's a set of headphones, so the internal speaker is muted (no sat nav directions). Is there some registry switch which can get the audio to come via the internal speaker as normal?
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elyl, did you get anywhere with this I've just bought one of these and holders and have got exactly the same issue, I want to either fix this or to return it and get a standard active holder.
Cheers

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4250590&highlight=Brodit#post4250590
Ah, looks like I'm guilty of double-posting, but I too have the same headache with the three-in-one Brodit holder.
I don't have an answer but I'll add my query to this thread in the hope that somebody who knows more about these things than me will note our plight

Paulplex said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4250590&highlight=Brodit#post4250590
Ah, looks like I'm guilty of double-posting, but I too have the same headache with the three-in-one Brodit holder.
I don't have an answer but I'll add my query to this thread in the hope that somebody who knows more about these things than me will note our plight
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Paulplex:- I was going to buy an adapter to output sound from the phone to my Aux input on my car stereo head unit, but that still doesn't give me the flexibility of being able to listen to the radio/CD as wouldn't then be able to here driving instructions from TomTom, so I've decided to send my Brodit holder back and get a passive one.
Sorry haven't got any answers for you though, am sure someone far wiser than I, will work out something to fix it.

I've done a little testing and I may have found myself a kind-of solution: although I've not figured out how to disable the automatic 'headphone' profile, you can still output sound if you connect a bluetooth headset to the phone after you've connected the ExtUSB connector from the Brodit car mount.
This means that although you can't use the Brodit car mount and the phones own speakers and microphone, you can still use it with a bluetooth headset - or car stereo that supports bluetooth.
Thats my solution - I'd like to know how to ensure sound goes through the speakers on the phone too, if you've got it connected via an ExtUSB three-in-one adapter, but this now works for me

Paulplex said:
I've done a little testing and I may have found myself a kind-of solution: although I've not figured out how to disable the automatic 'headphone' profile, you can still output sound if you connect a bluetooth headset to the phone after you've connected the ExtUSB connector from the Brodit car mount.
This means that although you can't use the Brodit car mount and the phones own speakers and microphone, you can still use it with a bluetooth headset - or car stereo that supports bluetooth.
Thats my solution - I'd like to know how to ensure sound goes through the speakers on the phone too, if you've got it connected via an ExtUSB three-in-one adapter, but this now works for me
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Paulplex, this is a good solution but not sure I wan't my TomTom bleating in my ear all the time, I've returned the 3in1 holder I bought, am probably going to go back to a passive one, I might try and pick up a 3in1 adapter, which some apparently don't switch off the internal speaker until a headset is plugged into them, that way I can output to my radio AUX from the 3.5mm headphone jack that these adapters have but will have to think about and do some more research. Good luck!
Cheers

Hi huys,
I too have this 3-in-1 holder. awesome! But indeed when not using the aux of my car and listening to the normal radio I want to have my TP2 docked and be able to listen to tomtom instructions directly from the phone...
Technically this should be possible, the ultimate proof is that when docked all sounds go through the aux out (line out) but the normal ring tone of the phone doesn't. So there is not something like a physical switch that doesn't allow you to plat any sounds directly from the TP2 when docked...
smart guys with solutions?