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Deleting files from an unlocked ExtROM

My most new annoying experience...
Everytime I delete some files from ExtROM that I don't want to install in the event of an hardreset, they reappear again after a softreseting the device. :twisted:
Even powering the device down, and waitting more than 10secs, as several times suggested in this forum.
Maybe a silly question, but any ideas to overcome this?

Don't tell me the only way is to coock a new .nbf Extended ROM!?
It is? :?

have you try formatting the extended storage? i used resco file explorer to format it after unlock the extended rom storage.

No I didn't format, as I wanted to delete just some files.
Should I Format?
And then?
- reflash the ExtROM .nbf, and delete unwanted files?
or
- just copy the ones I want to keep?

Also realized that extra files copied into, disappear after softreset :evil:
This thing seems to have own life...
Nothing of these behaviours were happening with previous ExtROM form Qtek (1.13.151 WWE).
Is it a different philosophy between Qtek and i-mate, for ExtROM?
Why these different behaviours?

Conchas said:
No I didn't format, as I wanted to delete just some files.
Should I Format?
And then?
- reflash the ExtROM .nbf, and delete unwanted files?
or
- just copy the ones I want to keep?
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well... i have no experience in reflashing the ExtROM.nbf, so i prefer the second option, it worked on me , sorry can't much help

see my comments on the following thread..maybe that will help..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=240962#240962

eagle 1 said:
see my comments on the following thread..maybe that will help..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=240962#240962
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Thanks for the hint. It worked!
Finally I think that I got the complete picture.
All difficulties to unlock Ext ROM on this new i-mate ROM, and a comment at another thread, made me think that once unlocked, it wouldn't be needed to repeat it again after further Hardresets. Changing the Reg settings accordingly, would be enough (WRONG!).
Silly conclusion... in fact Ext ROM was visible, but still protected.
The mommentary ability to delete and add files, leaded o a false confirmation that every thing was ok.
Now I can delete and add files to Ext ROM without problems!
Thanks all, the moved me to the rigth track.

Well after a hard reset this time I did not run the un-locker cab again, just changed the registry values. I have deleted a number of cabs, and installed two programs to the space freed by deleting the cabs. I've turned my device off for a couple of hours, and did a soft reset. So far this time my ExtROM is still there, as are my programs.
Granted this is not what I expected to occur.

dah54 said:
Well after a hard reset this time I did not run the un-locker cab again, just changed the registry values. I have deleted a number of cabs, and installed two programs to the space freed by deleting the cabs. I've turned my device off for a couple of hours, and did a soft reset. So far this time my ExtROM is still there, as are my programs.
Granted this is not what I expected to occur.
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Realy strange...
That were also these comments which caused my confusion before. Now I don't know what to think anymore :?
But will follow only the procedure that works for me.
Unlocking ExtROM on this ROM, turnned to be a really tricky procedure.
For me it only works if I enter the Reg settings manually...
Any attempt to insert them with a Cab file turns into failure to unlock ExtROM. Independent if I run the unlock tool before or after, followed by a softreset :evil:

You have to edit the "Config" file.

Extended rom

Anyone knows how to save the extended rom files ?
I wanted to hardreset device and skip the HTC custom tools

Diamond have no Extended ROM.
if you want to stop custamizie tool when first boot, do stylus reset or cook rom.

ok and where to find the programs that it installs on first boot
i wanted to install the opera and htc skin, etc, just skip the damn 3d touch flo

Blackfire said:
ok and where to find the programs that it installs on first boot
i wanted to install the opera and htc skin, etc, just skip the damn 3d touch flo
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you can find them in the ROM, you need to extract them.

Hi!
I want get also some files from the rom. How I can access it? It found via Mobile Registry Editor an MSFlash entry with the flag "MountHidden" = 1 but I can't change this value (access denied).
prodigy7

correct me if i'm wrong, there should be something identical to ext-rom in Diamond, if not how can u even do a hard reset? meaning, all the cab files should be stored somewhere.. i've been looking high and low for this storage space but still in vain.. any expert out there who found this additional storage space, dun mind sharing it with us..

nonentity said:
correct me if i'm wrong, there should be something identical to ext-rom in Diamond, if not how can u even do a hard reset? meaning, all the cab files should be stored somewhere.. i've been looking high and low for this storage space but still in vain.. any expert out there who found this additional storage space, dun mind sharing it with us..
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wrong, and wrong.
These devices no longer use ext-roms, when you hard reset the device, it only clears the PIM database and restores defaults. The SPL and the application that hard resets the device knows what to delete and what not to.

haha.. i see.. guess i haven't been updating myself for quite sometime .. thanks for your reply though ..

The .cab files loads from de windows directory, how kan I delete .cab files. The windows directory kan not be saved or delete.
I won't install only the cab file from Opera with a reboot

Soft reset

May i knw where is the soft reset on the htc touch hd?
PLS HELP

Either open the back case and press the reset button, or install HDTweak and it will install a soft reset icon in the program files.
However, when the phone ever crashes, you have to resort to the rest button on the back.

wken3 said:
May i knw where is the soft reset on the htc touch hd?
PLS HELP
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Can I advise you to read the HD manual, wiki and forum rules before posting any queries

soft reset
okok got it.thanks ya.i will take your advise

I use psShutXP (just google it). Its a bit small on the screen but works well

I use TouchOff. I've included file containing english files
Once file installed copy files in zip folder to location of installed app in either Storage card or phone i.e
Storage Card/Program Files/TouchOff/Skins/DefaultVGA

how to remove BtSdkCE30.dll BtCoreIf.dll???

Hi guys,
I am new here, so sorry if these two questions are obvious to everybody on this forum. I installed tt7 on my rhodium and modified BtSdkCE30.dll BtCoreIf.dll: no more bluetooth. Read the forum and figure out they need to be removed. Thus, I tried to delete, move and rename them to no avail. They are write protected and none I tried worked. So, please how do I remove them for good? Is there a way? Second question, when people are talking about hard reset on this forum they mean really reinstalling the OS?
Thanks
Max

mm148881 said:
Hi guys,
I am new here, so sorry if these two questions are obvious to everybody on this forum. I installed tt7 on my rhodium and modified BtSdkCE30.dll BtCoreIf.dll: no more bluetooth. Read the forum and figure out they need to be removed. Thus, I tried to delete, move and rename them to no avail. They are write protected and none I tried worked. So, please how do I remove them for good? Is there a way? Second question, when people are talking about hard reset on this forum they mean really reinstalling the OS?
Thanks
Max
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Simple answer uninstall tomtom then restart the phone then you will still have the files but the good ones tomtom writes new ones that dont work with this phone so when your done installing tomtom install this one and you are all set
ttn7.916.9189_original_patched 4 tilt2 TouchPro2_1.cab
then check your bluetooth should be working

Hi
give them a other name works also.

mm148881 said:
Hi guys,
I am new here,
>snip<
Second question, when people are talking about hard reset on this forum they mean really reinstalling the OS?
Thanks
Max
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A hard reset will reinstall the OS and wipe any of your registry changes, software installs and data stored in your internal memory. It's not the same as upgrading or installing a new OS though.

jaaphooi said:
Hi
give them a other name works also.
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Yes but they will still be there taking up space that can be used for other files
pounderd said:
A hard reset will reinstall the OS and wipe any of your registry changes, software installs and data stored in your internal memory. It's not the same as upgrading or installing a new OS though.
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and as for the hard reset to much time and trouble for something that can be deleted. or removed easily

The two .dll's are write protected on my tp2 !!!
Actually, I had to do a hard reset. No way I could remove or rename those two files. After the hard reset, I restored a previous backup - done before I installed tomtom. Finally, I modified the tt7 .cab file with WinCE CAB manager to remove the two nasty .dll's and reinstalled. Now, everything works ok.
Thanks
Max

I got the same problem.
I installed the WinCE Cab Manager and try to modify the TT7.cab file.
How to do it? I didn't see the 2 files!
Please help!!

Clear storage/hard reset?

What is the different between the 2? I don't mean to sound stupid, but don't they both do the same thing?
I know to clear storage, i can do that from Settings, but to Hard Reset some people are suggesting to shut off the phone and hold Volume UP and Volume DOWN... all this stuff
don't they both do the same thing?

Yes, they both will do hard reset. But doing it via the button press combination enabled you to do it without going into the OS. It's helpful for when you messed something up so bad that your device won't boot.

oh okay... that makes sense, thanks man

The hard reset will actualy clear everything and make it like you just took your phone out of the box. Clearing storage will leave some things unchanged in the OS.

Zzim said:
The hard reset will actualy clear everything and make it like you just took your phone out of the box. Clearing storage will leave some things unchanged in the OS.
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That's not true. Going to "Clear Storage", entering "1234", and tapping "yes" is equal to hard reset.

Zzim said:
The hard reset will actualy clear everything and make it like you just took your phone out of the box. Clearing storage will leave some things unchanged in the OS.
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Leave what unchanged exactly?
Clear Storage takes it back to the default settings of the ROM. Everything 'reloads' so to speak just like after a hard-reset.
It's the equivalent of "Restore to Factory defaults" on other phones.
Exactly the same as an HR.

so even if i flashed 6.5 wwe, and have hardspl it will return it back to 6.1 "out of the box"

so even if i flashed 6.5 wwe, and have hardspl it will return it back to 6.1 "out of the box"

badnewswrx said:
so even if i flashed 6.5 wwe, and have hardspl it will return it back to 6.1 "out of the box"
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No... It's restored to factory-defaults only if you haven't already replaced the factory rom contents with a new rom.

perfect thats waht i needed to hear!

Does it matter if the memory card is in, it is not going to delete all the applications on it I guess. How about all the contacts, I couldn't find them on the phone, no idea where exactly they were stored

ivoniko said:
Does it matter if the memory card is in, it is not going to delete all the applications on it I guess. How about all the contacts, I couldn't find them on the phone, no idea where exactly they were stored
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Contacts are stored on the device (I believe in a file called pim.vol at the root of the device), and will be lost of a hard reset is performed. There is a free program called PIMBackup which will back up and restore your contacts.
As far as having your SD Card in, it doesn't matter, I hard reset all the time, and don't lose any card data. However, if you've enabled storage card encryption, you need to disable it before your hard reset or you will lose all data on the card. This is because it will still be encrypted and your device will fail to read it, as it no longer knows the encryption key.

DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
Contacts are stored on the device (I believe in a file called pim.vol at the root of the device), and will be lost of a hard reset is performed. There is a free program called PIMBackup which will back up and restore your contacts.
As far as having your SD Card in, it doesn't matter, I hard reset all the time, and don't lose any card data. However, if you've enabled storage card encryption, you need to disable it before your hard reset or you will lose all data on the card. This is because it will still be encrypted and your device will fail to read it, as it no longer knows the encryption key.
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Thanks for the fast reply, it's relly helpful. I just found the encryption function, it was not enabled to begin with so I guess the card should be fine. Do I have to save PIMBackup on the phone or storage card will work?

ivoniko said:
Thanks for the fast reply, it's very helpful. Where can I find the disabling encryption function by the way, I can't find that either.
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Go to Start>Settings>System and there might be something like Encrypt Storage Card. But, I forgot that a lot of cooked ROMs leave this setting out, in which case you need not worry about it. Besides, you have to explicitly enable it, and I'm sure that if you did that you'd remember.

ivoniko said:
Thanks for the fast reply, it's relly helpful. I just found the encryption function, it was not enabled to begin with so I guess the card should be fine. Do I have to save PIMBackup on the phone or storage card will work?
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Keep your backup files on the storage card. Otherwise, they will be wiped out in the hard reset.

OK here is why I say a clear storage is different from a hard reset. KforTP was not working on my Sprint TP2. Normally during the install, it would say something along the lines for found "xxx.dll" and then would soft reset the device. Well it was not working. I tried 3 times to clear storage each time making it seem like it was set to factory default. How ever when I installed KforTP it would never or display the found "xxx.dll". The reason I did a clear storage was because I didn't even know about the hard reset.
Did some research found that hold call and end call then the power button would hard reset the device. Did that hit vol up to confirm restored the software and then the KforTP worked like a charm.
So my only logical conclusion was that a clear storage was not wiping everything.