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8525 WM6 cingular exchange

so i just called to have a new 8525 sent out. Im running black 2.0 cingy....what do you guys think will happen? will cingular try to power on the phone and see its running wm6? will that qualify as voiding the warrenty? do you think they will charge me for the phone?

rzanology said:
so i just called to have a new 8525 sent out. Im running black 2.0 cingy....what do you guys think will happen? will cingular try to power on the phone and see its running wm6? will that qualify as voiding the warrenty? do you think they will charge me for the phone?
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That wasn't the greatest idea you may have had before.
If they do turn it on, they will void your warranty. So, from what I've heard they will more than likely charge you full price for the replacement. ($600 or whatever it is now).
You really should have re-flashed your phone before sending it in... just pray they don't power it up.
(and if you bricked your phone from improperly flashing it, that's the risk you take from modding your phone, and you should have just taken one for the team.)
Good luck!

If you have not sent it in yet, re-flash with the Cingular ROM. Otherwise you will get a bill for $600.00

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If you have not sent it in yet, re-flash with the Cingular ROM. Otherwise you will get a bill for $600.00
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I agree with this, but the problem is, where is the original CINGULAR ROM? The "Cingular" ROM posted in the Wiki section of this site is actually an at&t branded ROM. The ROM that came on my 8525 purchased only a few weeks ago (and subsequent replacement) had a Cingular branded ROM (Cingy logo bootscreen, no anmiated boot, Cingy logo/background/icons on the Today Screen, etc.).
I was having issues with the backlighting on my phone so I took it up the Cingy store to have it exchanged. I tried everything I could do to keep the sales rep from booting up the phone, but he did and then couldn't understand how I got an at&t branded O/S on it. Luckily, one of the other sales reps said "Hey, look... We just got in a new Razr with the at&t badge and O/S!!". The sales rep I was dealing then said "Yeah, this guy's 8525 has an at&t O/S as well, but he bought his a couple weeks ago...". Needless to say, I played dumb and quickly made a mad dash for the door with my replacement handset before they could ask any further questions.
Anyway, it'd be nice if someone could find and post the Cingy branded ROM. Maybe it's already on the site somewhere and I just didn't see it...??

egypt123 said:
I agree with this, but the problem is, where is the original CINGULAR ROM? The "Cingular" ROM posted in the Wiki section of this site is actually an at&t branded ROM. The ROM that came on my 8525 purchased only a few weeks ago (and subsequent replacement) had a Cingular branded ROM (Cingy logo bootscreen, no anmiated boot, Cingy logo/background/icons on the Today Screen, etc.).
I was having issues with the backlighting on my phone so I took it up the Cingy store to have it exchanged. I tried everything I could do to keep the sales rep from booting up the phone, but he did and then couldn't understand how I got an at&t branded O/S on it. Luckily, one of the other sales reps said "Hey, look... We just got in a new Razr with the at&t badge and O/S!!". The sales rep I was dealing then said "Yeah, this guy's 8525 has an at&t O/S as well, but he bought his a couple weeks ago...". Needless to say, I played dumb and quickly made a mad dash for the door with my replacement handset before they could ask any further questions.
Anyway, it'd be nice if someone could find and post the Cingy branded ROM. Maybe it's already on the site somewhere and I just didn't see it...??
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LMAO!!! thats funny! i didnt send it out as yet. Is there a cingular rom available some where? lets hope i can flash down without bricking the phone if there is im pretty sure im done for if i send it back with out flashing it...they'll turn it on and see a nice scary pic of spawn...no where to get out of that one.

egypt123 said:
Anyway, it'd be nice if someone could find and post the Cingy branded ROM. Maybe it's already on the site somewhere and I just didn't see it...??
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Well Cingular = AT&T now so as long as it was a released AT&T rom you are good, though I am guessing it wasn't. You can download the roms by going to www.cingular.com clicking on support (make sure 8525 is your phone) then click on HTC site link.
Once there select cingular as the carrier and 8525 as the model, click software/downloads
and click download.
Easy.

rzanology said:
LMAO!!! thats funny! i didnt send it out as yet. Is there a cingular rom available some where? lets hope i can flash down without bricking the phone if there is
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Here is the "official" cingular ROM currently released to the public .. straight from the HTC support website.
Now, whether you can simply run the RUU and re-install this over Black 2.0, I am not really sure ... others will have to weigh-in on that one.

Or goto htcamerica.net and all the carrier roms are on there too.

Allright,
as with the last poster, go to www.htcamerica.net and reflash. Because as a cingular representative, I can tell you that there is a 50/50 chance not in your favor that they'll deny your warranty exchange and send you a $600 phone bill.

rzanology said:
LMAO!!! thats funny! i didnt send it out as yet. Is there a cingular rom available some where? lets hope i can flash down without bricking the phone if there is
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I have a feeling one of the fine folks on this site will know here to get it if you can wait a little bit before sending it in. If not, I'd at least flash it down to the at&t/Cingy WM5 ROM. At least it will be their ROM and the correct WM release. You can play dumb like I did if they question you about it. Just say that's how it came from the store. If they push you on it, say something like, "First, I'm offend by your perveted comment!!! I have no idea what 'flashing' or this ROM you speak of is. Second, are you telling your store sold me a used phone?? Well then I either want a replacement ASAP of I want all charges refunded immediately!!". Push it back on them.
You should be fine putting the old version on. I worked for me at least...

Wow, I guess I'm sloooow to pull the trigger. Lot of answers already.
Yes, I know Cingular = at&t. However, that didn't keep the Cingular rep from questioning why/how I had an at&t branded ROM. I assume the phones with the at&t ROM will have the at&t brand/logo on the shell. Not a Cingular logo on the shell with the at&t ROM. I assume this would waive a red flag to the warranty repair folks...

egypt123 said:
I have a feeling one of the fine folks on this site will know here to get it if you can wait a little bit before sending it in. If not, I'd at least flash it down to the at&t/Cingy WM5 ROM. At least it will be their ROM and the correct WM release. You can play dumb like I did if they question you about it. Just say that's how it came from the store. If they push you on it, say something like, "First, I'm offend by your perveted comment!!! I have no idea what 'flashing' or this ROM you speak of is. Second, are you telling your store sold me a used phone?? Well then I either want a replacement ASAP of I want all charges refunded immediately!!". Push it back on them.
You should be fine putting the old version on. I worked for me at least...
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LMAO!!! you're crazy man lol. well...well i got the rom available. so when the new phone comes i'll try to flash it and see what happens. it'll be here in a day or two.

If you've flashed HardSPL, you'll also need to downgrade to the stock Cingular SPL 1.06.

Just got one
rzanology said:
LMAO!!! you're crazy man lol. well...well i got the rom available. so when the new phone comes i'll try to flash it and see what happens. it'll be here in a day or two.
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I recieved a replacement 8525 from Cingular over the weekend. It was branded Att from the warranty dept. So use that excuse if you need. However, i really like the getting offended method. Good Luck!

Here you go.
http://rapidshare.com/files/27707683/HTC_TyTn_Cingular8525_CWS_1_34_502_1_WWE.zip.html

URPREY said:
If you've flashed HardSPL, you'll also need to downgrade to the stock Cingular SPL 1.06.
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That was the other piece I was forgetting ... if folks really want to get their device back to its out of the box crappy state.
Since I have never tried to downgrade my SPL, I am not really sure how to do it (though I bet the answer is on the wiki).

weinson said:
That was the other piece I was forgetting ... if folks really want to get their device back to its out of the box crappy state.
Since I have never tried to downgrade my SPL, I am not really sure how to do it (though I bet the answer is on the wiki).
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1188690&highlight=downgrade#post1188690
Olipro said:
you can get round it with SSPL; flash 1.10Olipro onto your phone with SSPL then you may downgrade to whatever you wish
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well good luck with returning it... i cant do it with mine since i didn't buy it from them and don't have the correct data plan. not that i need to anyway since i have a better rom

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=301219
This helped me out alot when I had to Downgrade when I sent my phone in for MFGW work.
There is a STEP BY STEP Guide to down grade to WM5 (orig cingy) and then read more of the thread and it will tell you what you need to do to get the SPL back to orig cingy too. Same should go for IPL if you managed to upgrade that as well.

Samsung i780 - Is it possible to run Hard SPL and other ROMs?

Hello Everyone!
I want to thank you all for making this site so informative and to the point - as I have been a frequent visitor since the days of my first (original) SPV. I have finally decided to try a different phone to my usual HTC choice and have just got the Orange i780 (which is a great phone! )
I was wondering if it might be possible to run something like HARD SPL on it and then put on a cooked ROM as the supplied Orange ROM is, as ever, far from thrilling. I would appreciate any help and if anyone wants some more information about the phone (as so little is currently available at the moment) ask away - and I will reply as soon as I get the chance.
Thank you!

I was going to get one of these, is it worth having? Have orange removed all the samsung stuff and put on their own stupid menu?

yup- they have. But its a gorgeous phone so as soon as it becomes possible to put new ROMs on it, it will be one of the best ones around in its form factor. Its nice to have something that feels half the weight of the TYTN2 and more than half as thin

Has anyone got an english rom working on the German Version of the i780? I see it is availiable on www.handit.de at a much cheaper price.

Has anyone tried the SDHC compatibility yet, I want to order a MicroSD card and will get the 8GB if it supports it?

airbedman said:
Has anyone tried the SDHC compatibility yet, I want to order a MicroSD card and will get the 8GB if it supports it?
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Sandisk 8GB microSDHC...works fine!

airbedman said:
I was going to get one of these, is it worth having? Have orange removed all the samsung stuff and put on their own stupid menu?
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Definetely. It's the fastest WM device ever. The mousepad is really cool. Better resolution (also yet, many programms have problems with it, not correct displaying etc.). Amazing build quality.
One thing that's missing is a cooked rom. The Software has bugs over bugs. a developer customized rom would be amazing.
But the device itself and esp. it's performance (processor) is the best ever!

vbijelovic said:
Hello Everyone!
I want to thank you all for making this site so informative and to the point - as I have been a frequent visitor since the days of my first (original) SPV. I have finally decided to try a different phone to my usual HTC choice and have just got the Orange i780 (which is a great phone! )
I was wondering if it might be possible to run something like HARD SPL on it and then put on a cooked ROM as the supplied Orange ROM is, as ever, far from thrilling. I would appreciate any help and if anyone wants some more information about the phone (as so little is currently available at the moment) ask away - and I will reply as soon as I get the chance.
Thank you!
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As a favor to the community would you be so kind as to upload the SDHC drivers from the i780 to the FTP section of the site? That way people with other Samsung devices (SCH-i760, SGH-i760, SCH-i730 etc) could perhaps get full usage out of their SD Cards? The SGH-i780 itself looks pretty cool. Did it come unlocked?

Re: drivers
Hi Dominick,
I would e happy to help but have no idea what thedrivers you are talking about are or how I could get them off the phone - so if you can give me step by step instructions, I will happily do so. No, the phone is locked - and I can't wait to be able to put on cooked ROMs and use another SIM with it. Apart from the ROM gripes, loving the phone!

So in the i780's current state is it full of bugs?...generic and orange branded?
Also,would it not be possible to dump the rom from the generic and then flash to the orange branded device.
Thanks

J273
You make it sound like putting on a diff ROM would be very easy - please let me know how! I have always had to use HardSPL and other methods prior to that... Itsnot really full of bugs, its just the annoying ROM orange with useless things there and ... well I just want to run Schap's ROM for example or any other I choose

Sorry i got no idea im afraid....But i thought thats the way it works.....Use a rom dumper which will dump the rom to a memory card and then build a installable ROM from the dump of the generic handset.
Might be wrong though.

I don't think the i780 is full of bugs, more a couple of glitches which aren't too annoying.
There is no vital bug and there is nothing which can't be fixed with the next OS update.
The most annoying thing was actually that the i780 didn't come with any navigation/GPS software and apparently only Google Maps and Garmin XT mobile seem to work fine, the others(like Tom Tom 6 for example) require the tool GpsGate to work with the i780.
The i780 is VERY fast, not only the CPU but also the GPU. I actually started to love this little thing, it really is a stylish and pretty light powerhouse.
Right now, I think the i780 is the most powerful Windows Mobile 6 Professional smartphone on the market(considering CPU & GPU performance) and also the most underestimated device too. Battery life is decent too, build quality is impaccable. I just wish Samsung would have provided a 5MP camera and a quadband GSM/Triband UMTS functionality, especially since the new Marvell CPU seems to provide hardware support for both.

I have managed to get hold of an Italian version but need a UK ROM .... anyone managed to get hold of one?
Is there any other way to change the ROM to English?

Is this the one from ebay?
I should be getting mine in the next few days
Cant you like hard reset it same with HTC's and then select the language at the start?

Have you tried holding down 6 and the # key when you power the phone up..this should hard reset it....if its like other samsung win mobiles.

Yes from Ebay ... arrived next day .....
Have done a hard reset ... no joy.

Ahh thought so.....I was going to bid and then it ended.
Hmmm.....i would of thought all the roms are the same

Really lovely piece of kit though .... using it anyway .... crash course in Italian ! LOL

ha ha ha....
Theres gotta be a way to change the language ...hopefully someone will know.

8525 reverting back to ATT rom

I am interested in trying on of the cooked Roms on my ATT 8525, however I am concerned about converting back to the ATT rom. I would like to use the K's WM6.0 Lite FINAL from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350695
Can I just run the ATT WM6 install like I did when I upgraded from WM5? Or do I need to do something more complicated?
I am sorry for my newbishness, I do not do a whole lot with WM devices, I am mainly a server/pc/network tech.
Thank you for your help,
Gihzmo

it can be done pretty much exactly the same.
ive actually reflashed an att rom back onto a phone after having several roms, and sent the phone back to get it replaced with the warranty

gihzmo said:
I am interested in trying on of the cooked Roms on my ATT 8525, however I am concerned about converting back to the ATT rom. I would like to use the K's WM6.0 Lite FINAL from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350695
Can I just run the ATT WM6 install like I did when I upgraded from WM5? Or do I need to do something more complicated?
I am sorry for my newbishness, I do not do a whole lot with WM devices, I am mainly a server/pc/network tech.
Thank you for your help,
Gihzmo
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Yes, thats all you have to do if you go back to the AT&T ROM for the 8525. Same as upgrading from WM5.... Good luck and Read, Read, Read.. This forum is addicting...

iKse said:
it can be done pretty much exactly the same.
ive actually reflashed an att rom back onto a phone after having several roms, and sent the phone back to get it replaced with the warranty
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You say pretty much, is there something I need to know? hehehe
This is my work phone so I seriously dont want to screw up

install hardspl first, with that chances of you turning your phone into a brick dramatically reduces by a factor of 2854.23 exactly

gihzmo said:
You say pretty much, is there something I need to know? hehehe
This is my work phone so I seriously dont want to screw up
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XtreMe_G said:
install hardspl first, with that chances of you turning your phone into a brick dramatically reduces by a factor of 2854.23 exactly
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Although you don't HAVE to install hardspl, i've never had a problem just doing safe softspl installs..

Thank you guys very much, im looking for the HardSPL download now and I am going to flash to K's WM6.0 Lite FINAL.
=)

iKse said:
Although you don't HAVE to install hardspl, i've never had a problem just doing safe softspl installs..
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HardSPL is one of the greatest gifts, as XtreMe_G says. Actually I can't imagine not HardSPLing, why take a chance....
I paid $500 buckazoids for my 8525, with the 2 year. Explaining a "brick" to my wife (much less Cingular) when I had the means to not brick... I don't think so.

As a precaution, it's always worth reading MrVanx's Hermes Upgrade Guide

Thank you for your help, I got the new rom on the phone with almost no trouble. I had some issues with my direct push email. But I fixed that by removing the proxy that was set.
This is much, much faster then then the rom I was running before (ATT WM6 release).
The only other problem I seem to have is the weather doesnt seem to want to connect, I looked it up and figured out the code for my city (Danville VA USA) I used NAM|US|VA|DANVILLE
This works if you go through the Accuweather website, but it doesnt want to connect through the phone... anyone have any ideas? The phone goes out to the internet fine, getting email and browsing.

there is plenty of threads about this including this one

networked locked ?

i debranded from orange rom and everything was fine i got an update so i did it now its saying network locked ?

Are you sim-locked to Orange?
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yup but i got the first update and everything was the same now i got a another update and it has gone like this

Try to unlock your sim card and the message should not appear again. You can buy an unlock code directly from Orange or get one online from a reputable sim-unlocking site, even on eBay. It is possible that you flashed a generic rom that included one of the radio versions which causes this network message to appear. This only happens with Orange branded phones for some reason...
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I guess the update was 1.21.405.2
Orange phones that have been de-branded seem to either have their WiFi broken or go to SIM Lock. The only way out of it is to buy an unlock code. (See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=693511)
The same happened to me -- although I know it would, and still wanted to de-brand. I just bought a code for £9 from: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300434867258#ht_1893wt_911 popped it in and it worked!
Yeah, it's not ideal but at least you have a de-branded and unlocked phone.

You see what you did there Faddy? You've been told on TWO previous posts SEARCH THE FORUM. In fact the answer to the two obvious questions you asked needed NO SEARCH AT ALL as the answers were recent enough they're still on the front page, but you decided beeing snarky and lazy was better.
Well you would have read peoples issues with the second update and would have avoided this. I have zero sympathy for you.

I have seen many posts by this member... makes you think, could he not have just noted all his queries in one post?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

I have to agree with you lot that the OP is lazy and wants spoon fed!
That said, Faddys, if you flash an older radio this should unlock your sim for you again.
I'll let you do the searching to find which one
Edit: When you flash a radio, it goes through 2 reboots. DO NOT interrupt the flash, or remove the battery if you think it's taking too long. This will brick the handset.

socktug said:
This will brick the handset
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I'm quite sure from his absence since posting this that he's probably done that already.

Aitese said:
I'm quite sure from his absence since posting this that he's probably done that already.
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LOL, I have noticed the lack of updates from him on any fixes he's tried, and a distinct lack of thanks to people that try to help.
It's bacisally ask for help, get it, leave..

LOL guys... you are mean ;p
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hey thanks 4 the help like and i unlcoked my phone so its all fine

faddys123 said:
hey thanks 4 the help like and i unlcoked my phone so its all fine
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Try using the forums properly next time. Everyone is more than willing to help, but not when it's clear you're taking the mick.

faddys123 said:
hey thanks 4 the help like and i unlcoked my phone so its all fine
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It might help others who are following this thread to say how you unlocked it.
Did you reflash an older radio, or did you buy an unclock code?

socktug said:
It might help others who are following this thread to say how you unlocked it.
Did you reflash an older radio, or did you buy an unclock code?
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Either method would have fixed it, but I agree with you mate and i think it would be beneficial to others if he cared to ellaborate a little

Has anyone cracked this phone?

I have had this phone a little over a month now leaving behind my 4th touch pro. So far i have found nothing on here for my poor snap No roms, no nothing made just for snap. 6.5 is out for sprint has anyone tried to cook that one up and unlock the vendor stuff? Im not much of a hacker or anything but theres gotta be something for this little guy. Its quick but bein left behind on 6.1
Get back to me thanks

Yeah if you are on sprint you should have the Snal S511. Check the serial number and if you see S511 then follow the links below for unlocking and rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=558003
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=563761

well im on cellular south. sorry took so long to reply. been workin my a** off lately. Ive downloaded the sprint 6.5 version but the phone knows the vendor id is wrong.

thanks so much for the links. Im bout to try installing it. Cellular South and sprint use the same Snap. So im hoping this works out. Thanks for the help and everything.

Same problem here man. all the focus seems to be on touch-screen models, but i need the latest vanilla rom for this non-touchscreen device installed

roberto75780 said:
Same problem here man. all the focus seems to be on touch-screen models, but i need the latest vanilla rom for this non-touchscreen device installed
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What is Vanilla?

Vanilla means that there are no extra features, if you read this haha it would be 4 months since the last time anyone replied!