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downgrading to WM2003SE

I reallly got a problem.
I installed Wm2005, but i dont want this.
now i tried to downgrade, but it says "wrong country id"
im a norwegian guy..
can anyone helps me ?

Checkout BA_Downgrade_WM5 thread

hi there are two kinds of upgrade programs one is
HimaUpgradeUt which needs country id to be correct or there is another
HimaUpgradeUt_noID which will do any even if country id is incorrect
contact me if you need further assistance or file thanks

Cannot Downgrade to 2003SE - SX66
I own a SX66 Cingulair (USA) and I recently upgraded the ROM to WM5 but now having a lot of problems with it. I need to downgrade it back to 2003. I followed all the instructions in the link given in one of the posts above but the program MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe does not recognize my existing ROM or the new one and no update happens.
Can anyone help me please.
DEK

Re: Cannot Downgrade to 2003SE - SX66
DEK said:
I own a SX66 Cingulair (USA) and I recently upgraded the ROM to WM5 but now having a lot of problems with it. I need to downgrade it back to 2003. I followed all the instructions in the link given in one of the posts above but the program MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe does not recognize my existing ROM or the new one and no update happens.
Can anyone help me please.
DEK
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exactly the same here with SX66, but where did you get your ROM?
I also tried to apply SX66Upgrade.exe program which seems like WM2003SE installer, but this program says it cannot connect to device. I also was able to get nk.nbf from the temp folder and tried to run MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe with this one, but it goes to the final screen without actually reflashing PDA. PDA still has WM5 installed.
I made a backup copy of my previous Win2003SE ROM to a SD card and restored it now from file back to SD card, but cannot find the way how to initiate ROM restore from SD card. I've read instructions saying: Insert SD card, put PDA into bootloader mode, select to restore from SD card, but in my case I just see "Serial 2.07" after going into bootloader mode and nothing else.

Found a way to Downgrade
Hi all:
After so much testing in frustration I moved the new ROM file to PH20B folder in the WM5_pack_V3 folder and ran the program BaUpgradeUt.exe. Now I know for SX66 which is a PH20B1 device we are supposed to use MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe in PH20B1 folder according the the downgrade link (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Downgrade_WM5)
I got the ROM from (http://sx66-blueangel.home.comcast.net/) which is version 1.40 and I am very happy with it. Before upgrading to WM5 I have unlocked this device using the unlocker program some where on this forum and I am not sure whether it has anything to do with MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe not working.
DEK.
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Downgrade to WM2003 from 2005?
Hi,
I loked at this forum and want to do the same thing as described within the thread, but on a IPAQ RX1955 from WM2005 to 2003.
Not sure of the ROM I downloaded form the links on the page will work.
Thoughts?
Thanks!
Mike

Corrupt Charmer (PM200) upgrade help

Guys, my phone is dead and I need a little help please.
I have a T-Mobile MDA Compact II and have mistakenly (why it worked I don't know) 'updated' it with a Prophet firmware release. This progressed as I expected but was I since discovered completely wrong. My phone now shows a black screen with Dopod logo on boot and then hangs.
I have since found this site (looks good btw!) and subsequently the ftp area. I've downloaded the correct firmware for my phone, reset into the three colour screen and kicked off the Romupdater for the proper version I believe to be for my phone. With the 2 releases from ftp (one in that directory appears to be only half a zip file) they appear to be uploading but there is no change with the black screen problem.
I'm now stuck and am hunting for options. I'm more than happy to help myself but can someone explain what I need to do and start me on my way to fixing this.
All because it hangs from time to time when I run up too many apps on it.
Thanks in advance
Andy

Tell us what ROM you are using and which software you are using to perform your ROM update.
Anyway, it is weird that the Prophet ROM doesn't work on your phone. Keep this low tone, but I've done a Prophet ROM flash on my Charmer before. Everthing works well except the camera, that's why I flashed it back to the original ROM. I won't advise others to do so, there seems to be a few 'fatal' cases. I'm not sure, probably because it is compatible with the earlier Prophet version.
UPDATE: Nevermind, you seems to have the information. Good if you can stick to the same threat to avoid confusion. To others, please refer to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=275337&highlight=

At work and I've left the phone at home but I believe it was something like 2.3.15 (i.e. upgrade from v1 to v2)

Correction, it's SPL 2.15, IPL 1.12.
I have seen a post on Hermes bootloader access over USB using Mtty and now have access to the cmd> Can someone help me perform a bootloader based ROM downgrade to known working or deleting the image that is there?

Have now found the awizard utility, which file type does awizard need to be fed via the ROM directory?
Yes I'm a newbie at this and shouldn't have messed with the ROM update but I'm an I.T. guys by trade so if you can feed me the info I need I should be able to follow instructions
Phone is still 'dead' though.

It needs
XXX-OS.nba
XXX-Radio.nba
XXX-ExtROM (directory wit Ext Rom stuff)
You ought to get these from the FTP. I've myself uploaded a Charmer original UK ROM T-mobile, it should be still there is no one messed with it.

Hmm, I've missed something then. I put the .nba files into the ROM directory and then run awizard and hit w. Where I would expect to see a list of files with numbers there isn't any.
What I miss?

the dir structure of the aWizard looks like the attached, where you have the ROMs under the "ROM" dir and Ext ROM. Where the aWizard directory has the aWizard.cmd file.

Can someone provide a split up (i.e. seperated nbf files) for the Charmer or the correct memory addresses to punch into nb2nbf to create my own?
The images seem to have been removed from the FTP site and I'm in position to de-brick my phone!

HTC Wizard/8125/(others) How-To....

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As you can see below, it seems I have a lot to learn and the last thing I want to do is mislead n00b's like me. This was supposed to be an "easy" way to mod your HTC 8125 but unforunately you have to walk before run so I'm going to do more reading and hopefully I can help people like me who just want WM6 and an easy How-To to get this done. I'm going to keep the attachments as this may be useful, but the rest I'm removing.
Thanks again everyone for your constructive criticism. I will take everyone's advice and read more.

nnakao said:
***THIS IS FOR EXACT STEPS ONLY!!! I DON'T PRETEND TO KNOW HOW/WHY IT WORKS, BUT IT DID FOR ME. DON'T EMAIL ME WITH QUESTIONS. THAT IS WHAT THE "SEARCH" BUTTON IS FOR.
Ok. So instead of posting a question, I figure I'd post a How-To.
Now I'm a n00b, so I did a lot of hunting these forums to get to where I needed to go. I will attempt to post all credits for work done at the end of the "How-To". If I miss anyone, send me an IM and I'll update the post.
First off, let me tell you what I have:
Pre-WM6:
Cingular 8125 locked
CID Locked
G4 Version (look it up.... I forgot to document exactly)
Windows Mobile 5
Post-WM6:
T-Mobile 8125 Unlocked
CID Unlocked
ROM version: 10.1.0.811 WWE
ROM date: 8/11/06
Radio version: 02.25.11
Protocol version: 4.1.13.12
XMA 6 r 3
Now you may be asking yourself "What?!?!?!?". Yeah, me too. To be perfectly honest, I have no idea what most of those means. Fortunately, if you're like me and just wanted to upgrade the damn thing from WM5 to WM6, you really don't need to know much more than the "Radio version" and SIM/CID Lock/Unlock.
Now for some terms. I've been searching this forum for some time and it took me a lot of asking and a lot of more searching to figure out what half the damn terms mean so I'll try to sum up what you'll need for this peticular procedure:
1. Wizard = The one of many names of the HTC 8125
2. nk.nbf = The image, or ROM, of the WM you want to use.
3. G3 = When you boot your HTC, it should say something like 2.xx.11. Any number less than 2.xx.11 is a G3 device. If I'm wrong, someone please let me know and I'll change it.
4. Brick = You got a useless phone! No No, that may not be true. Try searching the forums to recover from a phone that won't boot.... scared ya, didn't i?
5. (reserved for terms that I just can't think of that are important)
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Ok. So let's get into what exactly I did to get to this point. Register for this forum to get the attached links).
1. Get the Lokiwiz02b/03a (attachments below)
2. Get SoftSPL or sSPL. For G4 users, this will temporarily allow your HTC Wizard/8125/(others) to be upgradable. I say temporary because G4 users only have 1 option (other than SPL) to unlock the CID and that's to pay like 40 bucks and if you're here, you probably don't/can't pay for it. It's a good work-around (attachments below) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=50344&d=1189619527)
3. Get a ROM in which you want to use to upgrade from WM5 to WM6. Here is a good link given to me (credits at the end of the instructions): (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=wizard_WM_6). Think of a ROM as a Windows Install Disk, except it's virtual, not physical.
4. Get Active Sync 4.5. Google it and download it.
5. Get a Radio ROM (attachment below)
6. Get a mini-to-standard USB cable (for your phone.... did you get Active Sync 4.5 yet?)
Note: I've read that this process doesn't work for Windows Vista, but since I hate that damn OS, I don't have it and can't verify it doesn't work.
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Ok. So now that you have all necessary tools, let's get started on the steps to SIM/CID unlock your phone. Why do you have to do both? I have no freakin' clue, but you do.
0. Unzip all .zip files (not .cab) to your computer (i.e. C:\Temp\HTC\(directory name).
1. Install ActiveSync 4.5 and connect your phone to your computer.
2. Copy the EnableRapi.cab to your phone. You can use Windows Explorer to do this.
3. Run the EnableRapi.cab on your computer.
4. Run the Lokiwiz.bat for LokiWiz02b.
5. Use "U." to SIM unlock.
5a. Do not do anything until your phone completely reboots!!!!
6. Run the LokiwizMsl.bat for LokiWiz03a. (Write down the PIN!!!!!)
6a. Do not do anything until your phone completely reboots!!!!
7. Check to see if you can use a different SIM card (if you have one).
8. Enter in the PIN you wrote down to unlock the Network.
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Ok. Now we ca finally upgrade the OS/ROM/NBF to WM6.
0. Make sure you're phone is connected to the PC with Active Sync.
1. Copy the wanted nk.nbf/ROM/OS you downloaded to the SoftSPL-V0.1 directory.
2. Run the START-sSPL.exe
3. It will run throuth a RUU (ROM Update Utility) that you may or may not have seen before. Just check all the necessary boxes and "Next" your way through the wizard until it successfully updates your phone.
3a. Do not do anything until your phone completely reboots!!!!
That's it! Your phone is officially updated.... I/you/we hope....
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First off, I'm going to list the linked sites and who was the original poster. Then I will list the people who've helped me.
1. the-equinoxe = sSPL
2. rudegar = helped with the terms and links to HTC Wizard info
3. ??? = I'm sorry but I don't remember where LokiWiz2-3 came from. I didn't bookmark it!!! dammit! If someone knows, let me know and I'll fill in the ???
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If I have incorrectly said something in the above, please let me know immediately and I'll change it.
HAPPY MODDING!
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this is all very confusing and misleading,
Sry to say but you,yourself are not correctly,clear about the whole process of differentiating between the G3 & G4 devices.
SIM/CID Unlocking/ method and upgrading a G3 and G4 are entirely different.
The procedure you have posted is mix up of both devices but not explained correctly.You have posted all tools for unlocking but have not given there description as which one is to be used for which device.
The upgrading method is also not correct,as I gather it's more like it's for G4 devices,you cannot do this method for G3 device,it's misleading here.
I'll advise you to first understand it all fully yourself,You still need a lot of reading to do and fully consume the process,rather posting a guide for Noobies!!!
Check Red markings for corrections

nnakao, I like your effort of putting in answers in the forum. However, as what I've experience so far, it isn't much of a use, in most cases (i.e. some people just do not search). However, nice effort.
Further, I would also like to ask you a favour (probably a copy paste job), to check with the wiki (i.e. this page, top portion, "XDA-Wiki"), to see if there are relavant section (under Wizard) on stuff that you've just mentioned. If
(a) they already exist, double check it and correct them if necessary
(b) if they do not exist, add in there. Usually, others will just point newbiew into there, easier than to find your thread.
Thanks.

you got errors will post later more errors if more but here are some
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"3. G3 = When you boot your HTC, it should say something like 2.xx.11. Any number less than 2.xx.11 is a G3 device. If I'm wrong, someone please let me know and I'll change it."
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A G3 device has the ipl and spl 2.xx
A G4 device has the ipl and spl 2.xx.xx
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Wizard = The one of many names of the Cingular 8125 (HTC Wizard)
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Remember to post in big red letters "I am not Responsible for you bricking your device" and "That this is only for G4 devices" so post the difference of g4 and g3 on top.

After a couple of days of trying to search this forum for some basic explanation of some of the tools involved, I've come to the conclusion that it's next to impossible to find anything with the forum search engine.
The forum engine appears to filter out all three letter search terms, like ROM, IPL, SPL and NBF. Basically all the things I need to use as search terms get me nowhere. Put any one of those into the search box and you get no results, even though the forum is littered with references to them.
There are a couple of really useful threads, that have got me quite a long way, but I found them by searching the whole world with google, not by using the search engine in this forum. I'm sure plenty of other people have tried searching for the same information and just given up in despair.
Maybe some links to the correct information would have been more helpful than the criticism this thread received.
Here's quite a good place to start:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-298613.html
If anyone can add anything to help demystify the process of flashing phones and using this forum, I'd be grateful.

Yo, thanx anyway yo!

Error 270 fix

I'm running Vista and when I wanted to run the bootloader upgrade on my Dash I kept getting this message error. Error 260. anybody find any way around it? I've tried to manually set th ephone into bootloader mode, same result. help!! PS the error is supposed to mean "port already open" or "open port error" I'd really appreciate any help!

erro 260 - fixed
switches to my wife's laptop that had XP on and it worked like a charm. I'd be glad to assist anybody in the process od de-branding their Dash. Removing the ugly T-mobile paint logo on the unit was easy too.

ERROR 260
Sorry for thislong story....
OK, I've been on looking around the site for a while. I installed the WM6 Beta. I was looking for two days for the WM5 ROM only because I want the little things to work. Finally found it. But now every time I try to flash my phone ack to WM5 bI keep getting the 260 connection error. The readme only says to restart the comp and phone and try again. I have literally, no joke, done this 12 times in the last 2 hours, hoping maybe it will go. All the phone does is go to the green, blue, and red screen and stays there. Then the comp says it gets the error. I know it's connected because Sync Center syncs, I can look through the phone, install apps from my comp, etc. Also I tried doing the 'Update only' rom for version 1.11 or so, and it starts to go but then says its the wrong version RUU. Has anyone had this problem before? Flashing to WM6 did this once and then worked after.
I'm running Vista Premium, stock sync cable, Microsoft Sync Center for vista. All this is the sameas when I flashed to WM6.

There goes another 3 attempts, trying to change timing, reinstalling Sync Center, etc.

Decided to try it on my XP desktop, and for some reason, first time it worked. Maybe Vista didn't like it? Who knows..

Mladito Vista!!
Hi there,
I have the same little problem here!!!! I have a laptop with Vista (garbage)... so i´ll try on a laptop running XP...thank you for posting this, it was a big help..i let you know how it turns out... see you around

WM5 to WM6 --> Problems at 3%
Hi all,
I've errors upgrading my phone to WM6.
I Can open the Wizard (it`s a generic to S620/S621), but in 3% i`ve an error.
I think thats my phone has a blocked CID.
How can i unlock this? i`ve tryed with tools to unlock, but without success...
Regards,
Emerson

Hello,
Welcome to the forum.
Your problem is that your phone is CID-Locked. Hence, you'd need to use a paid service to unlock it. I personally used the following service which provides instant unlocking:
http://www.gsmliberty.net/shop/htc-excalibur-instant-remote-unlock-p-1452.html
I used a credit card, it's 39.99 $ - I was done unlocking and upgrading to Windows Mobile 6 in about 15-20 minutes.
Good Luck !
P.S:
Steps to install WM6
- First CID/SIM Unlock using GSM Liberty
- Flash Bootloader
- Install WM6 ROM (It will take some time for it to load so give it about 5-10 mins. it does get stuck at the boot screen for sometime but eventually it'll load)
- Install Office/Audio Manager
- Application Unlock your phone using SDA Application Unlocker
- Install the necessary software/tweak/hacks
there you go, if you have any questions, feel free to ask. also, if you use the search function, everything's available here.
Good Luck !
Here's the following links you require
1) Flash Bootloader
ftp://xda:[email protected]
2)here's the WM6 ROM:
http://files-upload.com/files/472108....90_Ship.ex e
here's office for those who want it:
http://rapidshare.com/files/31706137/Office.WM6.zip
here's Htc Audio Manager for those who want it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/atta...1&d=1183909664
Ps. I better like German flash, it's smaller due to fewer language packs, and contains English, here: http://files-upload.com/files/472422....90_Ship.exe
thanks to jsp_m for the links.

Hi,
I`ve problems because my IMEI is from Brazil...
And in the site accept only 15 digits IMEI..
My imei is: 35*************02 (17 Digits IMEI)
Thanks,
Emerson

hey,
that's not a problem. everyone has 17 digits, don't include the last 2 digits when you type in your IMEI so for example
11111111111111102
just include the first 15 and submit and you'll get an unlock link in your e-mail, follow that link, scroll down to the page to download dashunlock software and download the .UNL file for your IMEI and then make sure ur phone is connected to active sync and it's green, open the dash-unlock program and then hit enter then it'll ask for the .UNL file, locate it and open it and your good to go - your phone will be unlocked then soft reset it or i think it's automatic and everything's set.
good luck !
p.s: in other words, don't include 02 when you type in your IMEI.

HTC Audio Manager
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1355010&postcount=5

Thanks!
I'll Try NOW and let all know...
Regards,
Emerson

Arrghhh!!
My phone still give the message:
Invalid Model ID [244]....
And now? i`ve payed 40 bucks for an unlock software....
Thanks,
Regards,

tatarezende said:
Arrghhh!!
My phone still give the message:
Invalid Model ID [244]....
And now? i`ve payed 40 bucks for an unlock software....
Thanks,
Regards,
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Emerson;
Read the second post from luckybandit on this thread. That´s exactly what to do to get rid of the "invalid model" issue. Download the bootloader, flash the phone, flash the new ROM and be patient.
My excalibur is also from South America, and worked OK. If you have any doubt just let it know to this thread.
Boa sorte!

Hi,
I`ve problems with the link of Boot loader....
Anyone can send the full URL?
Thanks,
Regards,
Emerson

Hello,
I'm sorry about the links not working, here - i've attached the bootloader for you. here's what you do
1) Run bootloader (attached file)
2) Run the WM6 WWE ROM
3) Run SDA Application Unlock
4) Install Office/Microsoft Voice Command/HTC Audio Manager
5) Install Tweaks/Hacks
here's a site that has some applications and tweaks:
http://mobile.surrealnetworks.com/DashApps.htm
and search this forum, there's tons of information, hacks - etc.
Good Luck !

oh by the way, did you unlock your phone properly?
1) Download unlock software
2) Download .UNL file specifically for your IMEI
3) Connect phone to computer and make sure the activesync's icon has turned green
4) Run unlock software
5) When unlock software asks for .UNL file, browse for it, choose it
6) That's it ! It should say Unlocking done and it'll reboot
Your phone is now Sim & Cid Unlocked. If you have more questions, feel free to ask. just do what i said first then post.
Good Luck ! Hope to see everything working for u...

Hi again...
Now i`ve the Error 260 message everytime my phone boots in "Flash mode" (3 color screen)....
Follow my configuration in this screen:
Excalibur Wi-Fi RUU
ONBL 1.15.0000
Excalibur
SPL 1.15.0000
Excalibur IU
ERROR [260] - No connection

tatarezende said:
Hi again...
Now i`ve the Error 260 message everytime my phone boots in "Flash mode" (3 color screen)....
Follow my configuration in this screen:
Excalibur Wi-Fi RUU
ONBL 1.15.0000
Excalibur
SPL 1.15.0000
Excalibur IU
ERROR [260] - No connection
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Hi,
Are you using Windows Xp? Cause I've gotten that error a couple of times too but it was in Vista. Try Xp if you're using Vista.

Hi!!
DONE with XP.... but now i`m affraid!! The "Green Screen" with nem OS apparently locked... this is normal? at least 3/4 minutos in the same screen.. both "patches" are applyed sucefully....
Is there anything else to do now?

Need help with hp 4700 Upgrade tools and know-how...

Hi, Need some help here....tired of the same whole mix-mash from htc (recycled phones) so going back to basics - htc s620 (wm6) + my just acquired used 4700. Intend to upgrade it to WM6.1, I've been using htc phones so I am used to rom flashing... or so i thought. I downloaded some of the wm6 and 6.1 roms only to find that dont come with an ruu built in. Not a problem I thought,just get a carrier and replace the nbf file. Unfortunately despite an extensive search on brighthand and here and yahoo searches galore i havent been able to find a suitable guide with the necessary utilities to carry out the flash. The "universal bootLoader" no longer seems to be around (404 errors) samething with other Ruu's (from ru websites etc) yet I can still see thru the long 220 - 251 pg threads that people are flashing with something. In the interest of new 4700 owners would it be possible to have a particular "How-to-flash" thread possibly as a sticky? If not at least can someone help me with a how-to guide and any link to the relevant ruu or bootLoader utility for the rom flash.
Thanx all appreciate it.

You can find all the neccessary information on this page; different ROM's, a bootloader, and instructions in PDF format..

Thanks a lot ridolfo. that has helped a great deal. Slight problem that you hopefully know a way around. After downloading the BootLoader.exe rar file, I tried to open it to proceed but it kept on coming up with an error... "windows cannot open the selected path file...you may not have the appropriate permissions to open them" I just cant get past that altough it has apparently opened and expanded showing a whole lot of other files but i cannot basically get past that stage to run the rom nbf file... Any ideas please?

Right sorted!
Very simple but unexpected solution especially since i hadn't seen the issue mentioned elsewhere.
Simply disconnected all connections to the internet especially wifi (for safety/protection etc) and then disabled zone alarm!
Everything went thru as normal,updated and now just waiting for boot-up.
thanx a lot Ridolfo!!!