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Does anyone know if there is a way to access data while on a call with the Evo 4G at this point? I would love to be able to do that..my wife has a iPhone 4 and the only thing I hate is that she's able to use her data services while on a call!! Got Dang ATT!!
Unfortunately, no. It is a limit of currently used CDMA technologies. The iPhone and other AT&T and T-Mobile are capable of simultaneous data and voice because of GSM technology.
You can use data during a call if you are using VOIP to call, or connected to 4G or W-Fi.
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Unless u are on wifi or 4g then no...for now. With this rev b channel sprint may go to you will be able to! We find out in October.
The answer is yes you can access data on 4g and wifi while in a phone call
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You can only talk and surf if you're on wifi or 4G, as the call and 3G radio are the same; limitation of cdma technology.
Sprint Gnex currently running AOKP 35 w/ Franco Milestone 3 kernel.
Whenever I am tethering via native or WiFi Tether, incoming phone calls break internet connection. I just came from HTC EVO 4g which had DDTM mode option in menu which prevented this.
I was able to access DDTM mode on Gnex by entering *#*#DATA#*#* and MSL (obtained via a script found elsewhere on this board), but whenever I try to toggle DDTM "on", it immediately reverts to "off".
I have purchased Tasker from Market and am trying to figure out a profile which auto forwards all calls to voicemail during active net connection to prevent interruption but there must be a more elegant/simpler solution.
I have already tried flashing back to stock, rooted ROM, and CM9 ROM with same results, i.e., unable to toggle DDTM on through dialer codes and MSL.
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I found another option in dialer codes which allows me to set as "EVDO only". Will this accomplish uninterrupted tethering?
I know VZW can only handle voice or data at once over 3G, if you are on LTE it can do both voice and data at the same time. I am guessing it is the same for Sprint. Maybe someone else will be able to confirm this.
Um... You can't do simultaneous data and voice over EVDO (3G) on the Sprint Galaxy Nexus. It's not an SVDO device.
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I know VZW can only handle voice or data at once over 3G, if you are on LTE it can do both voice and data at the same time. I am guessing it is the same for Sprint. Maybe someone else will be able to confirm this.
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it is the same for sprint.
if you are on 3g, you can only do 1 or the other. limitation of EVDO.
if you're on LTE (which is not common for sprint), you can do both as the data is using LTE and not CDMA.
I realize it's a limitation of CDMA; hence reason for OP
However, previously being able to toggle into DDTM mode on my OG EVO alleviated problem while tethering on same CDMA network.
I think I have found workaround for my Gnex: *#*#data#*#<EDIT<MSL<Others/More<HDR/1X Selection<EVDO Only Mode.
Kind of a PIA, but until a more elegant solution arrives, it will work to avoid pesky breaks/interrupts in long DLs.
If you're near a wifi hotspot, wifi will continue to d/l also while talking on phone, as that's a different radio. If you're on the road, then that won't help! Unless you buy a second phone, enable that as a wifi hotspot, connect to phone 2 using phone 1 wifi....jk
Zepius said:
it is the same for sprint.
if you are on 3g, you can only do 1 or the other. limitation of EVDO.
if you're on LTE (which is not common for sprint), you can do both as the data is using LTE and not CDMA.
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I find that when I am tethering on LTE data, my data shuts off when a call comes in.
I would love to find a way to stop this. LTE and Voice should be able to be simultaneous.
Sometimes at home can't get damn 3g signal. So I got wifi how do I send messages using wifi???? ****'s very annoying.
Text is a voice service it doesn't use data at all. If you can't text making/receiving phone calls must be hard at your home as well. Over wifi Google voice or a similar app from the play store would be your best bet
Yes, you can. The best way to do it would be Google Voice, but there are other apps out there capable of it. The way the carriers handle it (in this case Sprint) is over the network... GSM or CDMA. 3g is always an extension of the mobile voice network... this is why you typically cannot make calls and browse the web while on 3g (although Sprint has found a way to defeat this with the Viper and the Evo LTE, though a second chipset). 4g runs on a different band than 3g does, which means it doesn't affect your calling / text capabilities.
I know that is more info than you asked for. The long and short of it is that you need an app designed to run on Wifi, rather than mobile data, but it is possible.
+1 for google voice. I even use it to text from my Nook which doesn't even have 3g.
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I put mine in airplane mode when I'm home and used voice for everything
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G voice.. or complain to sprint and get a airave and hook it up to your wireless router and have signal in your house .. or get roam control (assuming your rooted) and roam when your home and use your wifi for your data needs and sure youll be fine since wont need to worry about sprint and data roaming
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elliwigy said:
G voice.. or complain to sprint and get a airave and hook it up to your wireless router and have signal in your house .. or get roam control (assuming your rooted) and roam when your home and use your wifi for your data needs and sure youll be fine since wont need to worry about sprint and data roaming
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I have to use roam control and wifi at my house. I spend most my time in my game room in the basement and.my sprint service sucks down there. But I get perfect signal roaming.
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Rooster85 said:
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Uh, slvrap1 already stated this in so many words above. We're discussing workarounds now. And yes, Google Voice is the easiest way to go if you're using an Android phone.
A lot of the information in this thread is wrong...
SMS is actually a function over 1xRTT (just like voice calls) not EVDO (3g)... This is why you can recieve sms messages while on a phone call but not get other data services at the same time...
You never make a phone call or transmit SMS messages over EVDO, it is a data only connection protocol..
This is why SMS are limited to a certain number of characters, because they are actually a hack of the control channel in 1xRTT communications...
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REAL SMS is a hack of the control channel between cell phone and tower. It has nothing to do with a data connection so it can not be transmitted via EVDO, WIFI or any other data connection...
Note: When I state REAL SMS that is because services like google voice and others are all VOIP connections that use data connections to transmit messages and phone conversations... There is character limit in VOIP texting but they impose it because you can send it to a REAL SMS and that has character limitations built in..
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A lot of the information in this thread is wrong...
SMS is actually a function over 1xRTT (just like voice calls) not EVDO (3g)... This is why you can recieve sms messages while on a phone call but not get other data services at the same time...
You never make a phone call or transmit SMS messages over EVDO, it is a data only connection protocol..
This is why SMS are limited to a certain number of characters, because they are actually a hack of the control channel in 1xRTT communications...
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Correct. Texting has nothing to do with 3g. You can find an app that can use 3g or wifi to text o stead of the network. This is what my friend uses on AT&T so they don't have to pay for text messages. They use the network.
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musclehead84 said:
Correct. Texting has nothing to do with 3g. You can find an app that can use 3g or wifi to text o stead of the network. This is what my friend uses on AT&T so they don't have to pay for text messages. They use the network.
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That actually just sends the message via the data connection to a server, which then relays that into the carrier's system and is then transmitted to the recievers phone via the 1xRTT control channel... They aren't actually texting a phone, they are sending an instant message to a server that then knows how to convert and relay that into a text message.
Note: I use 1xRTT because we are on a CDMA2000 system... for AT&T, T-Mobile and other GSM it works on their *2g* voice connection... I forgot what it is called at this moment...
Use roam control at home, Verizon probably covers you better. 1x roaming is free other than your minutes
deziking said:
Sometimes at home can't get damn 3g signal. So I got wifi how do I send messages using wifi???? ****'s very annoying.
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Well let me say this. I was at a music festival in March. Had some signal bars but could not make calls or texts. Incoming or outgoing.
When I was in a certain stage I tried again (text) they all failed. I tried to turn on wifi and found an open network! Tried to text. Success!
So in my experience I say yes! Anywhere else I could not text. So when I needed to text I would return to that stage and connect to wifi.
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numus said:
A lot of the information in this thread is wrong...
SMS is actually a function over 1xRTT (just like voice calls) not EVDO (3g)... This is why you can recieve sms messages while on a phone call but not get other data services at the same time...
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I can text and surf web/Tapatalk while in phone call?!!
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tt281gt said:
I can text and surf web/Tapatalk while in phone call?!!
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Do you happen to be connected to wifi?
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tt281gt said:
Well let me say this. I was at a music festival in March. Had some signal bars but could not make calls or texts. Incoming or outgoing.
When I was in a certain stage I tried again (text) they all failed. I tried to turn on wifi and found an open network! Tried to text. Success!
So in my experience I say yes! Anywhere else I could not text. So when I needed to text I would return to that stage and connect to wifi.
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More likely when you moved you connected to a less loaded tower, being connected to wifi was just a coincidence.
tt281gt said:
I can text and surf web/Tapatalk while in phone call?!!
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Well if you are connected to WiMAX or Wifi.. yes you can make a phone call and surf the web at the same time.. If you are on EVDO, the only way that is possible is if you have 2 cell phones... One to surf the web and one to make calls
tt281gt said:
Well let me say this. I was at a music festival in March. Had some signal bars but could not make calls or texts. Incoming or outgoing.
When I was in a certain stage I tried again (text) they all failed. I tried to turn on wifi and found an open network! Tried to text. Success!
So in my experience I say yes! Anywhere else I could not text. So when I needed to text I would return to that stage and connect to wifi.
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Your experience is only coincidental... It is physically impossible because the SMS system is built on the 1xRTT control channel... It has nothing to do with the data connection in any way shape or form... It is a hack on the tower identification and protocol transmission channel.
It is like if you take out a frozen piece of meat, turn on the microwave and leave the piece of meat outside the microwave (never put it in the microwave) and claim the microwave is defrosting the meat...
Rooster85 said:
You guys reading?
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Are you reading? He obviously cant text at home.. he did say 3g but probably doesnt know what HES talking about.. i think its safe to say hes getting NO signal since he is unable to send text messages.. thus want other options to send text messages which people are giving.. he doesnt care how the network works and how it uses 1xrtt and not his 3g radio.. he just wants optiong to improve him sending messages at home which no matter how we put it, theres only a few options we've already determine which is 1: google voice or other voip messaging app. 2: using roam control to make sure he has signal to send it regularly while roaming. 3: can get airrave and hook up to his wifi at home to bost his signal inside of the house. 4: leave his house and go walk around til he can send one lol 5: someone said theres apps which allow you to send it over data which then gets converted in the tower and sent as normal.. good luck OP! Probably already found a way just wanted to try and get the thread back on topic for ya lol
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elliwigy said:
Are you reading? He obviously cant text at home.. he did say 3g but probably doesnt know what HES talking about.. i think its safe to say hes getting NO signal since he is unable to send text messages.. thus want other options to send text messages which people are giving.. he doesnt care how the network works and how it uses 1xrtt and not his 3g radio.. he just wants optiong to improve him sending messages at home which no matter how we put it, theres only a few options we've already determine which is 1: google voice or other voip messaging app. 2: using roam control to make sure he has signal to send it regularly while roaming. 3: can get airrave and hook up to his wifi at home to bost his signal inside of the house. 4: leave his house and go walk around til he can send one lol 5: someone said theres apps which allow you to send it over data which then gets converted in the tower and sent as normal.. good luck OP! Probably already found a way just wanted to try and get the thread back on topic for ya lol
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Google voice will only allow you to text over your google voice phone number... If you use google voice to manage your SMS and text using your phone number, it will still send it via SMS (1xRTT control channel) and will fail There is no alternative when you want to use your actual phone number except for utilizing the sprint web tool.. log into your account and send a text message from the web tool.\
Note: I am one of those people that will correct wrong information if i see it, even if it doesn't 100% pertain to the original post. IMHO it is the only way to ensure people don't start repeating the wrong information and exponentially make it harder to teach people the correct answer.
Way too often do I see the phone using CDMA/1X instead 3G, is it possible to force the phone to only use 3G? Seems kind of silly when Verizon offers also 4G phones that they would even bother with anything less than 3G nowadays.
Yeah boss its under settings > mobile networks. I don't see it on Paranoid Android but cm7 and I think cm9 has cdma only options
If you force 3g evdo only then you lose voice.
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If you force 3g evdo only then you lose voice.
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SMS too if I'm not mistaken
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Yulp, one would lose voice & SMS functionality - and/or be dealing with lots of missing calls, voice mails & unhappy folks trying to reach you ...
LOL, I would LOVE to have 3G signal - despite all the commercials about 4G/LTE on our Fios TV everyday - at home, it still meant taking our phones 5 blocks over to pickup 3G CDMA. With backup device roaming on AT&T, no problems whatsoever on GSM/3G and 4G's - if calls aren't dropped inside the house, LOL.
With all the tweaking, kernels & various Roms floating out there, the best we can manage is -85 dBm signal but mostly bouncing around, so 2G is all we get on my grandfathered UNL 3G data plan - running WiFi almost exclusively on a 30/25 fiber line.
It obviously depends on what ROM you are running, but in my CM9 by aeroevan I go to mobile networks and pick LTE/CDMA and that works usually.
Just wondering if anyone else is having problems using internet while on a call. I will have LTE until I start a call at which point the phone drops to a h or h+ connection and refuses to do anything network related. When I look at the phone information menu it says LTE for voice and data, is there anyway to force voice to UMTS or something so I can leave the LTE open for data? I'm using cricket wireless, a at&t mnvo in the USA and I'm on viper is 7.1.2. I'm not provisioned for volte or wifi calling.
I also don't get any internet at all on HSPA. Never had a phone do this before.