Is there any way that I can tell if my phone is speeding up the processor or not?
u should be able to use ur evo a lot smoother.. try and test it by closing all apps, turning 4g, wifi and gps off and the just play around... see if its smooth btw overclocking is what not to do to save battery and also if ur using setcpu..it says right there
Just download setCPU from the Marketplace. If you don't want it for some reason you can always get your refund within 24 hours.
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Is there any way that I can tell if my phone is speeding up the processor or not?
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Run LinPack (free on the market). With stock CPU frequencies you should get between 6.5 and 6.9. OC'd at 1.15ghz it can get as high as 8.
hi everyone, i'm no expert on phone, so don't kill me if i sound stupid
been using my galaxy S for about 4 months now. and yes it does lag compare to the iphone, or other HTC phones. so i been trying to find out, what's going on? why is my top end phone lagging? here's what i found:
1) when does it start to lag badly?
i installed system panel which gives me a nice list of active and inactive apps, and how much free ram i have left. the phone ALWAYS starts to lag like crazy when ram gets below 60mb. this is a problem - samsung is not giving us enough free ram to play with as once we run a few apps (market, internet especially), we're reaching the 60mb point already. when the phone gets to the 60mb mark it tries to manage the apps by closing some less important ones. but it lags BADLY while doing so.
what's gonna happen is the phone gonna get into this never ending cycle of closing apps and laggin as it's stuck in around the 50mb-60mb mark.
i can solve this by going to system panel and closing all inactive apps. then the ram is gonna go back to around 140mb. however after opening a few apps, once again it goes back to below 60mb and the lag starts again.
2) autokiller
guys been saying autokiller is great and they go with the aggressive settings. i tried it and it made the phone worse. why? because instead of killing apps at the 60mb mark it starts killing apps even sooner! that's wasting battery, wasting free ram, and making the phone even slower. we don't have enough free ram to begin with, so we should make max use of it. here's how i do it:
1) root the phone. install autokiller from the market.
2) instead of using high aggressive settings, use the LOWEST settings. i use advanced mode and then enter all values to 8mb only.
now it is awesome!! the phone never lags until you get it down to around the 20mb mark. you now have around 40mb of extra ram to use (of course autokiller does use some ram but no big deal). the lag starts much latter. u may not think 40mb is a lot but it is in practice!
if you dont believe me, you can try it. it may or may not work for u, but it's definitely working for me. of course, once the ram falls below 20mb, it may be a good idea to close some inactive apps yourself, LOL
but really, samsung should give us at least 100mb more free ram, i can't believe i even have to do this!
Well you point one issue that lag happens, but almost every custom kernel/Rom use memory tweak that Make you around 40MB more to start with.
And yes autokiller don't work good.
The program in the phone is the best to use.
The main lag issue is the filesystem.
Even these can be fixed with many different kernel/Rom.
Sent from GT-I9000 jpo. My own kernel for z4mod and with 341MB Ram
i don't disagree with what you're saying. but a few things to add:
1) i have not applied lag fix myself but i have a friend who has. i dont feel his phone is much quicker than mine in reality. also, his phone crashed after a few weeks and he had to do a hard reset. what we REALLY need is more ram. if we have lots of ram, who cares about the file system? we don't even need any swap from the file system. just let everything stays in ram where it is the quickest.
2) i'm not using any custom roms. if custom roms give me extra 40mb, and then i adjust the auto killer setting to low, that gives me 80mb extra to play with. great.
autokiller DOES work good i feel if you're doing what i'm saying. maybe u have already tried what i'm doing, i don't know, but if you have not, then i highly recommend you to try it.
like i said i'm no expert on this, but autokiller is so easy to install and adjust, and that i feel anyone here can use it
maybe flashing custom firmware is easy to do, i haven't tried it, but it sounds complicated to do for me, and i don't want really big changes on my phone, i want it to be extremely stable and safe as i use it a lot for business. i don't really want to risk any data or risk reinstalling stuff.
so maybe i sound uneducated but like i said i suggest everyone to try this method if they're newbies and don't wanna do too much
I can confirm that setting autokiller to low settings makes the phone feel faster than on high settings, I tried that some time ago.
But lag will still be present.
As mentioned by the poster this is a low risk, low skill method of improving the phone and is easy to do for all.
For all others I recommend the JFS lagfix. It is by far the lagfreest experience out there!
i have a buddy with a moto milestone and his phone lags just the same as ours. his phone has even less free ram than ours and so his is constantly lagging. sometimes he can't even take a phone call while listening to music becoz his phone only has like 50mb of free ram after starting up. so, just a point of reference - our galaxy is crippled with just not enough free ram, i heard stories of nexus one having 200+ free ram after startup and that's why they dont lag like us, so at the end of the day we're fighting a losing batter becoz samsung didn't give us a good enough phone
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I can confirm that setting autokiller to low settings makes the phone feel faster than on high settings, I tried that some time ago.
But lag will still be present.
As mentioned by the poster this is a low risk, low skill method of improving the phone and is easy to do for all.
For all others I recommend the JFS lagfix. It is by far the lagfreest experience out there!
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thank u and i may try the jfs fix, but i'm just worried about something happening to the phone becoz of what happened to my buddy who lost all his data (i can't remember which lag fix he used though), i always have this thinking that if the lag fix are 100% safe, then why aren't samsung doing it? samsung are paying tons of money to the programmers i'm sure and you would think they know how to do it too? but they choose not to, and there must be a good reason why.
You have a very good point supraman123! I realized it was the memory management that made the phone go crazy around the 60MB mark (you'll see the kswapd0 process go crazy), but never realized Autokiller could help us lower that mark. I hope this works, would be one of the best and easiest fixes for the SGS.
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thank u and i may try the jfs fix, but i'm just worried about something happening to the phone becoz of what happened to my buddy who lost all his data (i can't remember which lag fix he used though), i always have this thinking that if the lag fix are 100% safe, then why aren't samsung doing it? samsung are paying tons of money to the programmers i'm sure and you would think they know how to do it too? but they choose not to, and there must be a good reason why.
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If we know the amount of time and money Samsung spend on developing RFS...
So wait, the phone is faster if the minfree is set higher than default, and the phone is faster if the minfree is set lower than default... holy ****!
I applaud Samsung for figuring out the one setting that makes the phone suck and use that as default. Way to go, Sammy, way to go.
I know what u are talking about. I think it was an ext4 fix. All other lag fixes I know of don't share that problem.
Also with root there are many ways to secure your data prior to installing a lag fix.
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I know what u are talking about. I think it was an ext4 fix. All other lag fixes I know of don't share that problem.
Also with root there are many ways to secure your data prior to installing a lag fix.
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hi, thank u, can u tell me how to secure the data? or u have any good links to show me? thanks
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You have a very good point supraman123! I realized it was the memory management that made the phone go crazy around the 60MB mark (you'll see the kswapd0 process go crazy), but never realized Autokiller could help us lower that mark. I hope this works, would be one of the best and easiest fixes for the SGS.
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i hope it will work good for u also
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So wait, the phone is faster if the minfree is set higher than default, and the phone is faster if the minfree is set lower than default... holy ****!
I applaud Samsung for figuring out the one setting that makes the phone suck and use that as default. Way to go, Sammy, way to go.
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i'm quite disappointed at the ram issue also. coming from a n97 mini which seriously lacks ram, i was hoping by going for a high end phone like the galaxy, i aint gonna have to worry about ram and closing apps manually all day, however in reality the Galaxy aint much better than the n97 at multi tasking. of course, it's far better than the n97 at everything else.
I totally agree with OP on this one!
But Autokiller is not the only app that can fix the lag.
One Click Lag Fix 2.0 can root your SGS (Eclair only), lagfix it (with EXT2) and it can even do some additional tweaks like minfree (same as the Autokiller app) and fix the Scheduler.
With minfree Samsung put these values in "/sys/module/lowmemorykiller/parameters/minfree":
"2048,4096,5120,5632,6144,7172"
But best is:
Aggressive: "1536,2048,4096,21000,23000,25000"
or
Strict: "1536,2048,4096,15360,17920,20480" - I prefer this one
btw when you've a lot of ram free the ram is mostly used to cache file system reads ^.^
this explains that a little
Im using the 341MB of free ram so that gives me an instant 40MB ontop of the stock kernel, never seen the phone had less than 60mb free with this kernel, with my usage it doesnt even go under 95mb free.
I am also running one of those kernels that gives extra RAM. And I have all my partitions Ext4 lagfixed. But my phone still seems quite slow at times. My RAM was above 80MB free at that time though, so probably not related to any minfree/Autokiller thing at all. Which means there are way more causes to get rid of I guess.
I don`t know how you guys have problems with the lag, I use the stock samsung JPO, not even deodexed with zankinz 23 kernel and NO-RFS all ext4 lagfix and the phone is running perfectly, no lag whatsoever, the RAM is somewhere near 220 mb free after reboot. After deodexing and optimizing the apk`s the phone should run even better. I was determined to change my SGS with a Desire HD, but now I`m really thinking of keeping it.
Hi,
actually i running CM7 XboarderMOD V3.0.1 with Kernel [email protected]#1 downclocked Wake 245/768 Ondemand Sleep 245/315. Launcher GO EX With some AddOns
Batterylife is not really good but quite ok.
Now im looking for a ROM which is more faster, or only a Kernel.
What can i try.
Since today i have a new problem: suddenly the Music player starts to play any song without request that. what the hell is wrong with this thing.
I was figuring out to try the actual ILWT-388, but not shure if its really faster.
What could increase my device speed? Whats about EXT4 or all the Kernels.
My Device is actually starting random apps without request (no idea if this is normal or not) but it runs out of Memory and i need to terminate the processes via the launcher. then i have 100/367MB RAM available. What do you think about a SWAP partition? (i use a class 10 SD Card) If swap is kindly necessary; how to install/activate it?
Hope my english is readable
Thanks for some discussions.
So far Nissl
XboarderMOD? It's pretty old honestly...
If you want CM7 you can go for a number of choices...
Personally, I've tried ILWT and EliteMod and they're both excellent.
ILWT is absolutely amazing because you can customize it before installing, and being able to do that is absolutely essential for people who go back and forth through ROM's. It also has plenty of memory free (I always have close to 150MB free when idle), and is very, very, VERY fast.
For EliteMod, I honestly haven't tested it nearly as much but it has great battery life if you take advantage of all the tips the dev offers. It's also in the same league with ILWT when it comes to speed.
To increase speed, I'd go with SuperCharger V6 using the SuperMinFree Calculator's settings. (Go to the Cust-OOM-izer, it will prompt if you want to use them there)
One other thing I've tried was "Sick Speed Tweaks". It is pretty nifty, here it is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1267945
Lastly...swap, if anything, is going to degrade your battery life and SDCard lifespan (quite drastically in some cases). It's a BAD idea to use it, even on a Sense 3.X ROM, much less for a CM7 one, which already has tons of RAM free.
i Thank you so much bro.
i want to try ILWT first then on my second G2 the EliteMod.
I post my experience later.
Thanks again.
One Question: Which launcher should i try for enjoy most speed?
nissl said:
One Question: Which launcher should i try for enjoy most speed?
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LAuncherPro or zeam launcher! The best in my opinion!
Inviato dal mio HTC Desire Z usando Tapatalk
I use ADW EX (paid version). It's totally worth it as it's really smooth, and is theme-able. If you don't want to pay I guess what you're already using (GoLauncherEX) and the above suggestions are quite nice.
So here again.
Im running ILWT 388b and its ok, the ram problem is gone, for now.
One simple question. Im setting with "ILWT CM7 Settings " the CPU clock to Ondemand 245/576 MHZ but it will not hold these settings. It sets to 245/1113 by itself.
Anyone an idea to prevent this?
You can use Clock Daemons, like CPU Tuner or SetCPU, it works wonders
Here are 2 Clock settings in the Menu in the CM7 Settings and in ILWT Tools.
My problem could be that the two menu have a conflict. Settings i set seems to reset by itself (the other setting menu?)
I already tried it with edit the configurationfile manually. Seems that is not working, too.
Should i edit the OC-Kernel setting conf?
i dont know what to do, cause i don't really want to install another SetCPU app or something. =)
now the settings with the config file from ILWT tools are:
Wake 245760/768000 conservative
sleep 245760/245760 conservative
charge 245760/1017600 ondemand
temp 245760/768000 conservative
battery 245760/768000 conservative
I think it scales higher than 768mhz because i got every time more than 2000points with Quadrant, same if i set the OC to Ondemand till 1GHZ.
LAuncherPro is fastest launcher i had (including GO Launcher and ADW launcher) .. It´s simplier than other two, but much faster.