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Hi folks!
How can the HTC Hermes overclock. Did it with some tools tried, but rather less successful. Batteerystatus no, xcpuscalar, overclocked but not really at 472-500 MHz. And with the PHM I can overclock well, but then does my GPRS connection to the Internet no longer work.
Is there a way to change this?
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This has been gone over numerous times and no, you can't overclock the Hermes reliably....
f21270 said:
Hi folks!
How can the HTC Hermes overclock. Did it with some tools tried, but rather less successful. Batteerystatus no, xcpuscalar, overclocked but not really at 472-500 MHz. And with the PHM I can overclock well, but then does my GPRS connection to the Internet no longer work.
Is there a way to change this?
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i overclock before to 500mhz using XCPUScalar
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i overclock before to 500mhz using XCPUScalar
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Is it reliable?
f21270 said:
Hi folks!
How can the HTC Hermes overclock. Did it with some tools tried, but rather less successful. Batteerystatus no, xcpuscalar, overclocked but not really at 472-500 MHz. And with the PHM I can overclock well, but then does my GPRS connection to the Internet no longer work.
Is there a way to change this?
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Although it is possible to overclock Hermes it cannot be done relyabily or without damaging the CPU...
Some utilities may allow an active and practical overclock but I wouldn't advise it...
As you may know, if wou want your Hermes to be more responsive, performant, you can increase your ROM page pool size prior to flashing.
Cheers.
it might not be able to overclock.. but, should be able to keep the cpu locked at 400mhz and not throttle to lower speeds.. which would make it much more responsive.. I've been meaning to test this
Black6spdZ said:
it might not be able to overclock.. but, should be able to keep the cpu locked at 400mhz and not throttle to lower speeds.. which would make it much more responsive.. I've been meaning to test this
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The CPU is always at 400mhz. Wtf are you talking about?
no its NOT always at 400Mhz.. it has auto speed scaling built in. something is not right with both tcpmp and gxmark benchmarks.. using the newest PHM I manually set the lowest possible speed of 251Mhz, and disabling built-in scaling thinking of past knowledge that it doesn't do anything to our devices. I should not see any difference right? well visually it is MUCH slower than setting it at 400Mhz with both programs showing the same score at both speeds.. this CANNOT be correct.. I can see it with my eyes a night and day difference.. 420 seemed stable but the scores were showing slower than factory clock.. whats going on here?
this has been gone over so many times in the forum its not even funny any more.
use the search facility...
yes I know, I've read the overclocking threads from two years past.. ever considered newer software might change things? It does identify the processor correctly as a S3C2442A. I still want to know the answer to why benchmarks aren't reporting correctly.. BTW this thread should be moved
here are some results.. with a fresh boot I loaded a 39306KB AVI movie in CorePlayer 1.2.4. I ran its benchmark and also timed it with a stopwatch. The benchmark reported 1.60Mbit/s @ 3 Minutes and 21 seconds, also correct on the stopwatch. 321994752 bits divided by 201 seconds comes out to 1.601 Mbit/sec just like their calcs. Now I opened pockethackmaster 4.33 and set the clock to 420Mhz and reran the coreplayer benchmark. Here's the wierd part, the test reported that it took 4 minutes and 2 seconds with a 1.33Mbit/s rate but in actuality it only took 2 minutes and 58 seconds according to my stopwatch. Do the match, thats 1.809 Mbits/sec real throughput. So overclocking DOES work.. pretty significantly if I might add, but it appears that the timers used in these benchmarks are skewed and not reporting accurate numbers. Someone else try some tests and back me up here.
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When i get a tilt I want to overclock my hermes 100 to 900MHZ and see how fast it will melt!! Just kidding
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When i get a tilt I want to overclock my hermes 100 to 900MHZ and see how fast it will melt!! Just kidding
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I tried to overclock my oven but after that it keeps buning all my food
Is this process reverseable?
I need too cook a roasted chicken tonight and i will get nothing but a pile of coal...
Please help me!
I searched both the forum and the wiki but couldn't find any answer.
Cheers.
Kevlar-Source said:
I tried to overclock my oven but after that it keeps buning all my food
Is this process reverseable?
I need too cook a roasted chicken tonight and i will get nothing but a pile of coal...
Please help me!
I searched both the forum and the wiki but couldn't find any answer.
Cheers.
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Just take it out really fast, lol.
6 months ago, i tried to overclock my hermes and then it was broken. i mean touch screen cant be touched=)) but i dont know is it about overclocking. just share my experiment
Kevlar-Source said:
As you may know, if wou want your Hermes to be more responsive, performant, you can increase your ROM page pool size prior to flashing.
Cheers.
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But then you lose Ram, and when you only have 30 or so mb's of it to start its a crapshoot.
sure, it might make some of your videos or games faster but you'll most likely have problems with any data connection
PHM can brick your phone to an irreversable state, and xcpuscalar falsely shows an increase in processor speed. Battery status will not work for the hermes, and I don't think there is a program that will overclock a hermes CPU. As for the not constantly running at 400mhz, that is not a bad thing. Think of it as a P.C., when you are not running apps, there is a system idle process that occupies the majority of the processor, meaning that not all of the speed is utilized. If this is the case, that means that the processor is not running at full speed. Same goes for the Hermes, however there is no system idle process, just a slower clock speed. When you open an app it will reach, but not go over 400mhz.
pleas see attached zip file
this program give you the ability to overclock the hermes up to 420Mhz
i tested it - and at 420Mhz the device becomes slower and some minor flicks of the screen
i went back to 400Mhz and the device went back to usual operation
regards
edward
I too have tried various clock speeds but at the end of it all i left it default as the device was too unstable.
Also I have of course continue my attempts to overclock Hermes, but I am no satisfactory conclusion. At the moment I use xcpuscalar have all possibilities of tuning 500mhz switched on and it is stable. A benchmark I have not done, so I do not know exactly whether he has speed. But the belief puts mountains.
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Hi there, the current CPU max for Desire HD on stock is 1GHz.
If we change to other custom ROMs and it allows us increase the normal 1GHz to say, 1.5GHz.. (overclocking?) will it damage our hardware?
Cause as far as I know the software should be supported with a powerful hardware as well.
Overclocking always has the possibility to damage the cpu. And as not all cpu's are the same, if you want to overclock, the best way is to start of slowly say 1.1ghz. And keep stepping it up slowly. If your device begins to get unstable, go back a step, and you will pretty much know the level of your cpu fyi ive had mine overclocked to 2ghz and it seemed to run fine, although i didnt keep it at that level for long. lol
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I've been using minne over clocked at 1.5ghz since the day I bought it and I've not noticed anything as far as hardware failure. Being a computer technician I'm constantly trying to run what I have at the fastest rate without fail. I've not felt any overheating and per temps I've only seen about a 5-8°c increase over another user at work on the same ROM.
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I have been running mine DHD at 1,2 for some time and ofc there is a chance that the CPU fries, because of the OC, but I don't think the chance is very big.
But please remember that the warranty of the phone dosn't cover overclocking
Hmm.. ok. Thanks for the advice.
I shall consider carefully before doing anything. Currently I am at only 1190MHz. Lol.
Anyway thanks again.
Well,I am running a really nice 1.8GHz,stable and fast as hell.Never noticed any overheating.
What most people should bear in mind is that the physical limits of our cpus aren't the ones that the manufacturers tell us they are with their spec sheets.Almost always,cpus are tested in higher clock speeds than what they are sold with,just to be stable and safe.
And one more thing.Correct me if I'm wrong,but doesn't the Flyer share the same cpu as the DHD?Cause it runs @1.5GHz stock.If they have the same cpu,guess what this means for us!
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In my, I can use up to 1190, higher - websites in flash crash
ROM: Android Revolution HD 2.0.16
Kernel: Buzz OC/UV 1.61Ghz
What is a good program to test CPU stability ?
alpine17 said:
In my, I can use up to 1190, higher - websites in flash crash
ROM: Android Revolution HD 2.0.16
Kernel: Buzz OC/UV 1.61Ghz
What is a good program to test CPU stability ?
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In setcpu,go to the info tab and do a stress test for some minutes.If it doesn't crash or anything you're good to go!
Thanks.
I did two ten-minute tests in SetCPU, the first 1,53Ghz and second 1.61Ghz, both without errors.
Anyone have any idea ?
Lol. Guess I will just try increasing the GHz slowly. Trying 1.3 now
I dived straight in, and set it to 1.5. No problems so far. Done a stress test successfully. But is there any need to increase the minimum level?
alpine17 said:
In my, I can use up to 1190, higher - websites in flash crash
ROM: Android Revolution HD 2.0.16
Kernel: Buzz OC/UV 1.61Ghz
What is a good program to test CPU stability ?
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If you clocked your cpu too high, your complete phone will freeze. That means the only possibility to restart it is by pulling the battery.
If your browser closes suddenly without any notification, it's app related and not due to an overclocked cpu.
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Can i overclock my HTC Desire HD when I still have the standard vodafone rom on it?
Can someone tell me how to do this pls?
Thnx
Flussen said:
If you clocked your cpu too high, your complete phone will freeze. That means the only possibility to restart it is by pulling the battery.
If your browser closes suddenly without any notification, it's app related and not due to an overclocked cpu.
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You're right pal.I don't remember who asked,and am too bored to look for it right now,but it also happened to me with stock unrooted rom.
benno4403 said:
Can i overclock my HTC Desire HD when I still have the standard vodafone rom on it?
Can someone tell me how to do this pls?
Thnx
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Well,to overclock you'll need a custom kernel,which means you'll have to be rooted and have at least clockworkmod recovery installed.ENG and Radio S-OFF are recommended.
Flussen said:
If you clocked your cpu too high, your complete phone will freeze. That means the only possibility to restart it is by pulling the battery.
If your browser closes suddenly without any notification, it's app related and not due to an overclocked cpu.
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ok I know, but I do not understand why when I enter the page, for example: speedtest, after a few seconds the phone is completely frozen (o / c) 1.22Ghz
I watch movies, play games, do tests, benchmark, etc. (o / c) 1.22 Ghz - 1.53Ghz. Everything is ok.
just a few seconds in the flash player and death:
Did someone try do downclock CPU to say 800MHz. Will it improve battery life?
benno4403 said:
Can i overclock my HTC Desire HD when I still have the standard vodafone rom on it?
Can someone tell me how to do this pls?
Thnx
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Yes you can, you need to root, s-off and install a custom kernel first though.
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catevs said:
Did someone try do downclock CPU to say 800MHz. Will it improve battery life?
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Yes underclocking will improve battery like, at the cost of performance
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alpine17 said:
ok I know, but I do not understand why when I enter the page, for example: speedtest, after a few seconds the phone is completely frozen (o / c) 1.22Ghz
I watch movies, play games, do tests, benchmark, etc. (o / c) 1.22 Ghz - 1.53Ghz. Everything is ok.
just a few seconds in the flash player and death:
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Flash it quite a cpu intensive task, thats why
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alpine17 said:
ok I know, but I do not understand why when I enter the page, for example: speedtest, after a few seconds the phone is completely frozen (o / c) 1.22Ghz
I watch movies, play games, do tests, benchmark, etc. (o / c) 1.22 Ghz - 1.53Ghz. Everything is ok.
just a few seconds in the flash player and death:
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Well,as AndroHero said,Flash is quite CPU intensive.However,your problem could be caused by the fact that your CPU isn't as "good" as others.By "not good" I don't mean that your CPU's quality is bad,it's just that it is unique like every CPU(nanometer scale devices like transistors are hard to be produced and be exactly the same one with another) and it might need you to up the voltages for higher frequencies.That by itself is no problem.
If the problem is indeed your CPU's limits,as it could be app related as Flussen said,and if you are running LeeDroid's rom or at least have his kernel installed,I could provide you with the OC script I am using myself.You see,I too am "suffering" from problems with the CPU not being able to handle too high overclocks,so I had to up voltages.Fortunately not much!
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Did someone try do downclock CPU to say 800MHz. Will it improve battery life?
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Well,in theory it should improve battery life.But calculating battery performance is a hard and tricky process.Just think about it this way;The CPU will run at lower voltages while at its reduced max frequency,thus needing a smaller electric current.However,it will need to run at the max speed for a larger amount of time.So,what you finally get is reduced drain,but for longer periods,meaning the gains in battery life could be minimum to non-existent.I for one am running 1.8GHz and battery life is just as good as @1GHz.
I finally got srf 1.2 to work really good. I have a few questions about voltage control.
1. Is it safe to overclock and undervolt?
2. What advantages will I see from undervolting, longer battery life?
3. Does overclocking really make that much difference, and is it safe?
4. Is there a how to, or a guide that can show me how to do it?
Thanks
Yes its safe just don't use the set on boot feature. As for battery improvement some people notice a difference and others don't I personally do undervolt. As for the guide just mess around with it for a while everyone Has different Preferences so results will always be different. I don't undervolt below 75 cause when I do I get lock ups. If you lock up just pull the battery and you'll be fine. I also recommend to use journaling ON cause if you lock up and pull the battery with journaling off you might get data corruption.
Hope this helps.
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Yeah that helped but I really just don't know how to use it.
Led4lyf said:
I finally got srf 1.2 to work really good. I have a few questions about voltage control.
1. Is it safe to overclock and undervolt?
2. What advantages will I see from undervolting, longer battery life?
3. Does overclocking really make that much difference, and is it safe?
4. Is there a how to, or a guide that can show me how to do it?
Thanks
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What kernel are you on?
I'm on Twilight and can overclock to 1.3ghz with full stability. I don't undervolt. Combination of my phone doesn't like it and I'm not looking to save that little battery to get wakelocks (phone doesn't come out of sleep mode because the processor speed is too slow or doesn't have enough juice to make that push.)
If you're using a kernel that can go to 1.4 or 1.5 test it for a while before you save your settings. Also consider buying the paid version. It allows over volting which may allow you to supply enough power if 1.4 or 1.5 causes freezes.
The app is pretty basic. The top bar on the first screen is how low you allow the processor to go in speed. The bottom is how fast. Lower than 100 mhz causes wakelock for me. Or used to. Haven't tried since. My settings are 200-1300 mhz. Second page is voltages. They start at default. If you have extreme, moving them to the right will overvolt and give those speeds extra power. Moving the slider to the left undervolts. Some people can only undervolt at the lowest speeds of say 100-400 mhz. It's a lot of trial and error. Have fun though!
So on the main page my settings are 200-1300, then I press apply settings. How can I tell If it is working, it does not seem that much faster? Do I have to set this every time I turn my phone on? Do I want to save thos for boot up?
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So on the main page my settings are 200-1300, then I press apply settings. How can I tell If it is working, it does not seem that much faster? Do I have to set this every time I turn my phone on? Do I want to save thos for boot up?
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It wont make it much faster
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Led4lyf said:
So on the main page my settings are 200-1300, then I press apply settings. How can I tell If it is working, it does not seem that much faster? Do I have to set this every time I turn my phone on? Do I want to save thos for boot up?
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When you turn your phone off then on, does it show those same settings? The speed boost will be slight. It's not like we're resurrecting Jesus here.
I have Milestone cpu program and I wonder in what speed is safe to put the cpu run.I have it on 1000 but I dont know if it is safe.I would like to inform me the safest speed to put it.
Thanks
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1000 is absolutely safe...quite a few people even run it on 1200mhz, and that is also considered safe (i personally dont see any reason why anybody needs more than 1000mhz)..
ntisco said:
I have Milestone cpu program and I wonder in what speed is safe to put the cpu run.I have it on 1000 but I dont know if it is safe.I would like to inform me the safest speed to put it.
Thanks
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you mean milestone overclock? use setvsel instead, thats specially for the defy, and has more options than milestone overclock. and yeah, 1ghz is perfectly safe, our TI 3630s default clock is 1ghz, so 800mhz is an underclock. also try undervolting, the voltages are waay too high by default!
i used Milestone Overclock and now i feel like my defy is running smoother, and more reactive @1300 but i dont know if thats just my defy
*and dont try overclockin to 1400 because the system goes through a melt down and becomes heavy so keep to 1300 at max*
sent from Motorola Defy @1.3gz running 2.3.7!
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you mean milestone overclock? use setvsel instead, thats specially for the defy, and has more options than milestone overclock. and yeah, 1ghz is perfectly safe, our TI 3630s default clock is 1ghz, so 800mhz is an underclock. also try undervolting, the voltages are waay too high by default!
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You mean this for voltage??
https://market.android.com/details?...SwxLDEsImNvbS5teXJ0Lm15cnR1bmRlcnZvbHRndWkiXQ..
But the options that it has is lot...which is the most right for each gig to the prosesor???
Thanks all for your unsers..So i run it at 1000 and if i want something more i take up to 1.300 max....
ntisco said:
You mean this for voltage??
https://market.android.com/details?...SwxLDEsImNvbS5teXJ0Lm15cnR1bmRlcnZvbHRndWkiXQ..
But the options that it has is lot...which is the most right for each gig to the prosesor???
Thanks all for your unsers..So i run it at 1000 and if i want something more i take up to 1.300 max....
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nope, thats not what i mean, use setvsel for voltage settings. read this article. i dont see the point in overclocking the phone more than to 1ghz, it drains much faster and get really hot, but you wont really see the performance difference.
btw, my settings are:
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I could run on lower vsels, but i wanted a perfectly stable phone, so i raised every vsel by 2.
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nope, thats not what i mean, use setvsel for voltage settings. read this article. i dont see the point in overclocking the phone more than to 1ghz, it drains much faster and get really hot, but you wont really see the performance difference.
btw, my settings are:
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
I could run on lower vsels, but i wanted a perfectly stable phone, so i raised every vsel by 2.
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Well i download the program and set your setings (numbers)..And the hz in 1000 to Milestone..BUT when i go and open the milestone program i see that the price (1000) has returned to auto ...
I have task killer but i have uncheck Milestone and the VSEL program in order to work..In the milestone program i press the button above the bar that i scroll to 1000hz..and then aply...Then back to go out of the ptogram...Now if i open it again i see se scroll bar at the back an i must do the same again...What i do wrong????
ntisco said:
Well i download the program and set your setings (numbers)..And the hz in 1000 to Milestone..BUT when i go and open the milestone program i see that the price (1000) has returned to auto ...
I have task killer but i have uncheck Milestone and the VSEL program in order to work..In the milestone program i press the button above the bar that i scroll to 1000hz..and then aply...Then back to go out of the ptogram...Now if i open it again i see se scroll bar at the back an i must do the same again...What i do wrong????
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simply uninstall milestone overclock, and only use setvsel. setvsel is a full featured overclock utility specially for the defy, you dont need anything else. just set the frequencies and the vsels in setvsel, and apply!
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simply uninstall milestone overclock, and only use setvsel. setvsel is a full featured overclock utility specially for the defy, you dont need anything else. just set the frequencies and the vsels in setvsel, and apply!
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If i unistall the milestone program and let the SetVsel....in the Vsel up it has the 3 values 300 - 600 - 1000 and the vsets...it also has a scroll bar that in me is at 86%..this is ok or i must change it?
Litle down from this bar has some other values and a test...how does all that values work??
And if i need to put it to 1.300 hz i just change the 1000 to 1.300???
ntisco said:
If i unistall the milestone program and let the SetVsel....in the Vsel up it has the 3 values 300 - 600 - 1000 and the vsets...it also has a scroll bar that in me is at 86%..this is ok or i must change it?
Litle down from this bar has some other values and a test...how does all that values work??
And if i need to put it to 1.300 hz i just change the 1000 to 1.300???
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read the article which i linked in my second post, everything is explained there
I have notice that with the numbers of vset that are above and I have put on my cell the temp is 30 -36 Is that ok
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nope, thats not what i mean, use setvsel for voltage settings. read this article. i dont see the point in overclocking the phone more than to 1ghz, it drains much faster and get really hot, but you wont really see the performance difference.
btw, my settings are:
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
I could run on lower vsels, but i wanted a perfectly stable phone, so i raised every vsel by 2.
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I see a big difference in performance between 1000 and 1200. :/ also I've only seen a difference of 1 hour battery life between the two speeds, which still means I have 35% left after 1 day use. From 6.50 to 23.30 each day
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keewanchoapsss said:
I see a big difference in performance between 1000 and 1200. :/ also I've only seen a difference of 1 hour battery life between the two speeds, which still means I have 35% left after 1 day use. From 6.50 to 23.30 each day
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And what about the temp.....isnt too hot...how much is it
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Hi all I'm fairly new to these forums, although I have been watching from afar for quite some while now!
I have been trying out custom roms and various kernels and was wondering how do I go about overclocking my device? Only reason I am asking is because I was checking out benckmark results for other devices and noticed some can be particularly high.
Any insight would be most appreciated!
I wouldnt try any overclocking on the HOX because of the heat issues. A more safe and stable way of doing it is changing the govenor of the kernel or forcing cores online. I think you can use core control (in the apps and themes section) to change core behaviour and system tuner to change govenor.
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I have now installed core control. Got to admit it is nice having the option to save a bit more power. How much as an estimate do each of cores use anyway just out of interest?
meleelord said:
I have now installed core control. Got to admit it is nice having the option to save a bit more power. How much as an estimate do each of cores use anyway just out of interest?
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you can download an app called tegrastats to find out more but all you should know is this. once you activate the corecontrol and depending what app you use you should be fine. if i was you i would also use no-frills cpu app. that way you can underclock and would save you more juice
Goku80 said:
you can download an app called tegrastats to find out more but all you should know is this. once you activate the corecontrol and depending what app you use you should be fine. if i was you i would also use no-frills cpu app. that way you can underclock and would save you more juice
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Fantastic! Many thanks for the advice. I have now installed no-frills cpu, and started to tinker around with the settings. Could I ask as I am still fairly new to some of this, when I first went on to the settings both maximum and minimum were set to 1.5 GHz (Not sure if it was just saying this on the app or not or if these are the actual settings) but I would guess this would use a lot more power am I right?
meleelord said:
Fantastic! Many thanks for the advice. I have now installed no-frills cpu, and started to tinker around with the settings. Could I ask as I am still fairly new to some of this, when I first went on to the settings both maximum and minimum were set to 1.5 GHz (Not sure if it was just saying this on the app or not or if these are the actual settings) but I would guess this would use a lot more power am I right?
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yes you are right. put the min frequency to say 200 or 300 mhz and then press apply on boot and then reboot and you should be fine