I wanted to let everyone know that these headphones, although they seem to support some sort of A2DP (Can talk to them from a laptop supporting A2DP), they will not talk to windows Mobile 5 with A2DP. I have the Cingular 8125 (aka HTC Wizard), with the A2DP additions loaded on it and the 2.17 firmware. I have my wizard talking A2DP to Motorola headphones, and to a Scosche A2DP car receiver. They both work great, and even though the wizard will see the creative headphones (I have 2 of them, so I know it's not 1 defective set), and will see the "Wireless Stereo", when I try and connect the wireless stereo, I don't get the Headphones with the note icon like I do with the other A2DP devices.
FYI for anyone else considering the Creative CB2530
I can use them with my Trinity, but it was a little tricky.
The problem was with the Microsoft Bluetooth Stack, it tries to establish a secure connection when it is not required. Worked fine with my laptop(widcomm) and previous pocket pc(iPAQ H6365-widcomm) but the latter was unusable due to the lack of bandwidth.
I'm not sure if this is really the solution
but I believe you must add the CB2530 without entering a password first, the headphones will try to connect right after confirmation of the services we want to use(wireless stereo in this case),
"the device cb2530 is trying to connect... yes/no" - something like that
the pocket pc will request for a pin, enter 0000 and wait, the phones will disappear from the paired devices list, try again, this time insert the pin 0000 right after selecting the CB2530 from the found devices list and voilà, an A2DP connection will be established.
It's a little weird tough, the system sounds sound choppy, even with jointstereo off and increased bitpool(512 lol), PocketPlayer doesn't stream the audio through A2DP, and media player does it right and the sound quality is nice(only a few other skips but overall pretty nice and the original transmitter wasn't perfect either), but maybe because of the load of audio conversion on the CPU the whole UI gets sluggish, odd.(or maybe it's the bitpool value I used)
It works.
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Hi,
I followed all the instructions on adding a2dp to my ppc, I upgraded the rom,etc and ran the tornado thing. My 8125 sees the headphones and has the wireless stereo service, however, it does not actually connect to them as they even after I find the headphones theyt are still in discovery mode. Any ideas anyone.
I have exactly the same problem. I'll post the solution when I figure it out. I phoned iogear and they told me to set my 8125 to send the audio to the headphones instead of the speaker. Not helpful.
solution found
upgrade to the latest beta rom 225 and it should fix it
Sending all audio over bluetooth
Had similar problem when trying to send music from phone to the headphones. Found the tool, see attached, that has three small programs. There is a bit that has to be changed to tell the device to send all audio to the headphones, otherwise it just does it for phone calls.
The BTAudioOn forces the bit on. BTAudioOff forces the bit off. Just put them onto your device and run them directly. There is a also a toggle program, but it isn't intelligent. It does not query the system and toggle, but instead has its own tracker which gets out of synch.
Hope this helps. My apologies for not crediting the creator of the program, but I believe I found it at Microsoft's site.
Audio quality was very poor due to bluetooth on device. I tested with very old Cingular ROM. Have not tested with the latest 2.25 Cingular ROM to see if there is any improvement. Used Motorola's Stereo Bluetooth headset and also iPhone Stereo Headset with similar results.
I realize that the demand for this may not be too high since the audio quality of HFP is of very low quality compared to A2DP, but I still want to do it!
As I understand it, the UConnect (Dodge Magnum) system will only accept HFP (Bluetooth Hands-Free Profile 0.96 or higher) as a source. My phone (Sprint HTC Touch Windows Mobile 6.1 Pro) can do just about every Bluetooth standard needed to transmit audio. It is already paired with the UC system and works flawlessly - even displaying battery and signal levels.
I have been scouring Google looking for a "HFP Emulator" or something that will allow my Windows Mobile phone transmit audio from WMP or TCPMP (streaming Internet radio or Orb broadcasts from my PC) using the HFP flag so that UConnect will think that it is a phone call I'm listening to. It doesn't seem as though this should be so difficult...
I don't have a physical audio input in my car or anything. I'm really just curious if there is a Windows Mobile hack/application that will do this or any other method you know of?
You may want to try this:
http://www.jetwaremobile.com
Hi,
I am looking for a way to stream audio from the Touch HD to my Car. Unfortunately the cars built-in audio system doesn't support bluetooth. But there is that handsfree-thing, which works really great with calls. So I wondered, if there is a software solution that streams my music from the phone as "incoming call" to my car?
I've tried "acbToggleBT" and "BTASP" and both didn't work in the Car, but they did work with a bluetooth headset.
It would be really great if somebody knows, finds, posts, programs or has an solution.
Thanks in advance!
Greets from Bavaria, Germany
berkley
I can't remember but there was an option to route normal audio to the bluetooth handset in my HP iPAQ which is missing from HD.
Believe me music streaming to HSF device will be as good as listening to AM radio on poor reception. Go get a bluetooth A2DP profile audio headunit like Sony - MEX-BT2500 (this is the one I use and works like a charm).
Thanks for your reply.
Perhaps I took the wrong words to explain what I am looking for.
The thing I want is a piece of software that "imitates" an incoming call and sends the audio from S2P to the handsfree of my car.
Maybe this explanation is a bit better...?
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have you tried BT Audio
it's a paid app
acbToggleBT always worked for me
try this
There are 3 apps
btaudio on
btaudio off
bttoogle (on/off)
i made a cab file for it
camro said:
try this
There are 3 apps
btaudio on
btaudio off
bttoogle (on/off)
i made a cab file for it
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Excellent. I can get this to work via bluetooth headset.
Unfortunatley this didn't work in my car (which is what I believe the OP wants).
http://220.232.214.116:8088/attachmentes/Day_071224/31_270270_b7dcc_pxdxa.btaudio.zip
I use this application, works terrific!!.......enjoy
ausi - does this work on a car stereo i.e. does it emulate an incoming phone call?
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ausi - does this work on a car stereo i.e. does it emulate an incoming phone call?
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All i can say is this based on using it on my HD with WM 6.1 & 6.5 (Dutty ROM):
Once you install the program and then execute it (Press On):
It will transfer all Music & Audio from Movies (Core Player) etc. to my BT Nokia Headset or my BT Car Speakerphone (Motorola T305), i do not have a Radio BT set so i can't tell you, you'll just have to try.
This Cab solved my problem as the basic BT HD ROM sertting only transfers the Phone audio while this little cab transfers ALL audio, so i would presume that it may help you with your BT radio, you can always uninstall the cab if it doesn't work for you.
There is NO emulation invloved here!!??
Good luck!
Hi Ausi, tried on my Nokia BT car handsfree but no joy
The handsfree only accepts an incoming call as stated above so some sort of emulation may be needed. Would be happy if someone knew about something...
ausi said:
This Cab solved my problem as the basic BT HD ROM sertting only transfers the Phone audio while this little cab transfers ALL audio, so i would presume that it may help you with your BT radio, you can always uninstall the cab if it doesn't work for you.
There is NO emulation invloved here!!??
Good luck!
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Funny... my HD does the reverse. I get de BT audio but on the BT phone I got nothing but static...
I've got a Sony Xplod bluetooth radio in my car.
When I start up it automatically connects to my HD, however it only connects as handsfree rather than both handsfree and BT stereo.
I have to go into comms manager and bluetooth settings, then select and hold on the xplod in the device list.
A menu comes up asking what I'd like to connect as, and I pick stereo, then repeat for handsfree.
Give that a go. Holding on the device to bring up the menu gives you the BT profiles the device is capable of, so with a bit of luck stereo/headphones will be an option for you.
Just had the new kenwood deck installed... Should do almost anything. I have my incredible paired up and calls are clear. Problem is A2DP audio streaming. Does not work. No A2DP device is found. Yes, the manual gives directions to play streamed audio once bt is synced. Well, its synced, got my phone book on there, and calls are being made.
Any thoughts or ideas to get streaming audio?
I don't have any help to offer, but I am experiencing the same problem with my Pioneer FH-P8000BT. Pairs for phone calls with no issue and everything is clear, but the radio does not even "see" the device as being available for A2DP.
I previously paired a few different HTC phones (all running Windows Mobile) with this radio with no issues. I'm hoping it's a simple fix, but I can't find a single thing in the settings that I haven't played with to try and get it to work.
I have an Alpine HU with an Alpine KCE-400BT bluetooth add on. My streaming audio is working, although I don't get any song/artist info on screen. I do have an issue where the phone doesn't sync up all the time. It syncs up great in the morning. If I stop for gas or something (turn off the car briefly) and get back in, then the radio won't see the phone until a call comes in or is started from the phone (or I toggle BT on/off).
You might check with Pioneer on any firmware udpates.
My incredible works great with my Ford sync system. It always connects, calls are loud and crisp, and streaming bt audio works great. I use it to listen to Pandora all the time.
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I have an Alpine HU with an Alpine KCE-400BT bluetooth add on. My streaming audio is working, although I don't get any song/artist info on screen. I do have an issue where the phone doesn't sync up all the time. It syncs up great in the morning. If I stop for gas or something (turn off the car briefly) and get back in, then the radio won't see the phone until a call comes in or is started from the phone (or I toggle BT on/off).
You might check with Pioneer on any firmware udpates.
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I have seen other people post issues with having bluetooth on the phone enabled before the car is on. If you turn the car on first and then the phone's bluetooth they said it worked fine.
I have Kenwood HU and my phone won't pair with it. my Blackberry Paired with it fine, and even did A2DP, and worked awesome...now......nothing.
Been looking for some answers as to why, but after calling Kenwood they said it's a software update that is missing.
however, seeing as some people are getting it working fine....I am suspecious.
Kenwood 4160 working, actually better
My 4160 and serveral WM units worked, but the A2DP always had to be turned on by going into the menu every single time I wanted to listen to anything from the phone, but the Incredible does it by itself every time perfectly.
I have a Pioneer AVIC N4 and the audio for both calls and music works just fine out of the box.
I have the kiv-bt900 also, and it is my understanding that it does not have A2DP. I believe the A2Dp in the manual is referring to the KIV-700 with the add on bt module.
From page 67 (of the downloaded manual from Kenwood)
KIV-BT900
Supported Bluetooth Profiles:
Version: Bluetooth Standard Ver. 2.0
Profile: HFP (Hands Free Profile)
OPP: (Object Push Profile)
PCAP (Phone Book Access Profile
SYNC (Synchronization Profile)
I thought it had it too when i bought it. Maybe a future update will enable it though??
What does A2DP mean please?
it stands for Advanced Audio Distribution Profile. In simple terms, it's stereo audio transferred from one device to another via bluetooth. Example: Music from a phone/mp3 player to stereo bluetooth headphones, head units etc..
Thank you.
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I have the kiv-bt900 also, and it is my understanding that it does not have A2DP. I believe the A2Dp in the manual is referring to the KIV-700 with the add on bt module.
From page 67 (of the downloaded manual from Kenwood)
KIV-BT900
Supported Bluetooth Profiles:
Version: Bluetooth Standard Ver. 2.0
Profile: HFP (Hands Free Profile)
OPP: (Object Push Profile)
PCAP (Phone Book Access Profile
SYNC (Synchronization Profile)
I thought it had it too when i bought it. Maybe a future update will enable it though??
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Well damn. The deck was sold to me from car toys (local vendor) under the pretense that it would do zune (works great) and A2DP...
Usb works great too... I was thinking of formatting a laptop drive to the mac file system (hfs) and hooking it up to the usb port to get a200GB drive of mp3 and video since it supports ipods. (works on xbx360, why not here?)
OK so a small fix, but not the end result.
with my Kenwood head unit I can make it work as long as I don't let it download the phonebook. and that is no problem since the phone sits on my dash in the car dock. but the problem is that EVERY time I start up my truck, or after I end a call it asks to re-download the phonebook.
it kinda irks me, but I cannot get it to stop asking, no setitngs on the stereo work.
I emailed Kenwood about possibly releasing a firmware update to include A2DP to the kiv bt900. They responder saying that there isn't enough demand for the feature for them to create a firmware update. So if we get enough people contacting them and requesting that feature, they will release and update. So you guys should all contact them to increase the demand for this feature. Hope this helps.
Here is exactly what they responded:
"I understand that you're inquiring about the KIV-BT900's Bluetooth features. We do apologize for any difficulties that you've experienced with this item. Unfortunatley, we cannot assist you with any firmware updates at this point since this model was just recently released to the market. Our company has not received enough demand for this feature which prevents us from developing or releasing an update for the KIV-BT900 unit. We may release an Bluetooth update in the future, however it's hard to determine at this time."
I'm willing to start complaining and sending some emails out to them. What email address did you send it too? I just got the player and that is def the only thing missing to make it complete for me.
I tried emailing the regular support channels and got the below message.
Thank you for contacting Kenwood USA Corporation. We value you as a Kenwood customer and appreciate the opportunity to be of assistance.
I Understand you are inquiring about any updates to allow the A2DP profile.
There is currently no available updates and there hasn't been information on upcoming updates for the A2DP profile. We ask that you check back at a later date to verify if one is posted through the www.kenwoodusa.com website.
We apologize for any inconvenience.
Please feel free to contact us again with any additional questions.
I spoke with a rep and they mentioned that A2DP missing from the unit is the most often called in issue about the unit.
I have a KDC-BT948 with the same issue. They removed A2DP and put in Pandora instead..and it only works through iPhone, which then uses up wireless data on a cell phone plan. So Android, MS phones, and any other bluetooth device can no longer be used with a Kenwood Car Stereo. Someone at Pandora really made an impression at someone in Kenwood. It is too bad that they are limiting consumers with their choice which ultimately limits their sales and increases complaints.
Should have everyone go do this and request a fix.
Go to the Kenwood Contact page and send an email
This is what I sent
I have purchased the KDC-BT948HD radio.
Where I am overall happy with many of the features, looks, variable colors, and excellent sound quality of the unit, there are several things that I am extremely dissapointed in and would like to see an update released to resolve them.
1. SMS Received message on the unit: Might be useful to some, but to me it is a dangerous distraction while driving, especially at night. It has me take my eyes off the road to look at the unit and makes me want to look at my phone to read/send texts. Texting and driving is illegal in many states and there should be a way on the unit to allow a selection to turn this feature off.
2. BT Audio (A2DP) is missing. I have an Android phone with my music on it. Alone there are more Android phones than iPhones in use today. I wanted to have Bluetooth streaming audio so I can play my music from my phone to the unit. For such a high technology unit, it should be part of the firmware and flexibility to the consumer to use their device with more options. The previous year units had this enabled and seems to be disabled now replaced by a focus on a wired Apple connection and Pandora. Forcing use of Pandora also forces consumers to use up data rates on their wireless plans. If A2DP were enabled, more consumers could enjoy the product integration with standard BT devices offered by Apple, Android, Microsoft and many others. All could enjoy the music and audio applications on their devices including Pandora. I would like to request that A2DP be added to the firmware and source selection on this device. I should yield increase product ratings and sales as web searches show many complaints about this issue.
I would value your feedback on these points and potential solutions.
Best regards
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My incredible works great with my Ford sync system. It always connects, calls are loud and crisp, and streaming bt audio works great. I use it to listen to Pandora all the time.
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Running into the next problems when playing MP3 through my PC's speakers through A2DP with my stock Eclair ROM 2.51.1.MB525.Retail.en.GB:
PC Win7 X64, Bluetooth 2.0 EDR stick Belkin F8T012, Widcomm Stack 6.3.0.7900.
Paired the Defy with my PC. The Defy shows as MB525 in "Devices and Printers" when I double-click on the icon, the properties appear. From here, I can initiate the "Music and Audio" connection. The Defy's music now plays through my PC's speakers, and I can control the Defy through my PC (pause, back/forward etc.) with a little window that appears above my system tray. So far so good: splendid audio! Now when I end the connection from my PC in the MB525 property page, the Defy starts playing through it's own speaker again, as it should. Perfect. Now I am able to successfully reconnect in the same way once more, but when I disconnect again, the Defy thinks it is still connected and stays silent. After a while the Defy then reboots (no "M" screen, but showing "android"). Then, I can connect for two more times before this starts over.
Is anybody else experiencing this behaviour?
What I think is also strange: I cannot initiate the A2DP connection from my Defy, have to start that from my PC. With my WinMobile phone the A2DP setup was working as it should, no phone reboots and able to initiate from the phone. I tried with older Widcomm stacks, but the same things happened.
Now I tried the same thing with Bluesoleil 8.0.338.0 which I bought as well. No errors, connection initiates from the phone, BUT: no audio could be heard from my PC's speakers during the connection. I selected the correct sound output option, my PC's sound card. In other words: works perfect but no sound.
With both bluetooth stacks, everything else works ok: FTP, Headset profile (can hear audio through my PC speakers now)....
Can someone help me stopping the android reboots with the Widcomm stack, or tell me how to get A2DP going with Bluesoleil?
Apart from this issue, the Defy is a great phone I think!
EDIT:
Tested the Bluesoleil with ISSC and CSR chipped BT dongles on X64 and X86 as well, everything but A2DP seems to work. Connection between the Defy and Bluetooth stick seems to be OK, but no sound is heard.... Cannot test the other sticks with Widcomm, since this stack is dedicated to Broadcom chipsets nowadays...
After struggling with this for four days, I have been able to solve the problems. I tested with Toshiba bluetooth stack and uninstalled this as well because it did not solve the A2DP problem. Then I uninstalled two devices that were present in the Win 7 "devices and printers" folder, a bluetooth GPS and another PC. After this I reinstalled Widcomm 6.3.0.7900. After pairing I am able to use all of the Bluetooth features of my Defy, including A2DP, FTP and Remote control!! I can even initiate the A2DP connection from the Defy like I used to do with my Windows Mobile phone. Thanks for studying this thread anyway!
Regards, André