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I am getting a little worried here.
It is advertised everywhere that the xda IIs has voice dial, which to me reffers to me talking into a bt headset and it calls that contact.
If this is not possible, can fonix ispeak sort it?
The device comes with fonix voicedial software, but it does not work through the headset. I have my MDAIII mounted on the windscreen in the car and manage to use voicedial to make calls with over 90% accuracy and then talk through my jabra bt headset.
Which unit do you have PDA2K or IIs? I haven't seen any postings yet comparing the two devices, O2 may have addressed some BT issues before launching the IIs.
I won't have one (IIs, already have PDA2K) till next week.
getting the 2's next week. new officail date is the 15th nov. so should recieve it on the 16th
So what does it take to make this work? is it impossible. Can we not do something?
it take it that this product is using the mic hardware and not bluetooth mic?
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/cellpoint/padrblvoreha.html
Anyone come acrross this before: (scroll down to Kai’s Bluetooth Headset Patch 2004 )
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/_archives/sep04/bluetooth.asp
could something simular be done on the xda's
Or is this something where only ever going to get to use with bluetooth v2?
read this an help me please
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=12824&highlight=
Its good to see progress being made but the main problem still is a hard ware based. The mic and speaker in phone hardware need to be bridged with the ppc... which gets me thinking.....as we can speak into ppc and listen to the caller then once we BT the call it was bridge/switch it.... dont understand why something so simple and a much required feature is missing :?
Hi,
I have installed the trial version of MS command and it seems to be doing the trick... I have a qtek 9090 and I did not see any installed software for voice dialing... Is it only on PDA2K?
Thanks.
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Hi,
I have installed the trial version of MS command and it seems to be doing the trick... I have a qtek 9090 and I did not see any installed software for voice dialing... Is it only on PDA2K?
Thanks.
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MS Command doesn't support bluetooth headsets either.
From the MS blurb: "Bluetooth Headset Support - Voice Command does not support using a Bluetooth headset to initiate a voice command but you can use a Bluetooth headset during the phone conversation."
So its the same as fonix. You have to speak the dialling command into the device, and it only transfers to the bluetooth headset when the device starts dialling out. If you can put up with that, fonix works pretty well.
JD
Well as much as I was looking forward to getting a PDA2K or SX-66, I feel that this is a MAJOR drawback that has me thinking twice. I read that your cannot initiate VOICE calls using a BlueTooth headset no matter what software you are running. Is this accurate?
If so, then why can the Audiovox SMT5600 do it by the way of voice tags?
Thanks,
Frank
Previous ms smartphones and pocket pc phones have not supported the bluetooth handsfree profile which would allow voice dialling. Since the new devices now support it its up to the software developers to implement it in their software. For example, using my SE HBH-200 on my imate PDA2K i can initiate voice dialling on the headset but on the imate there is nothing to interface with. If the Audiovox can do it there is no reason why a more powerful pocket pc cant do it as well
Hi,
Newbie, just purchased an XDA2i with an O2 'blue' headset and I need some help in the voice dial area.
Turns out they are not compatible for one click voice dialing. Installed fonix VoiceDial 2.0 off the O2 installation CD but it will not activate from the Blue Headset Call button. In the XDA settings you can assign hardware buttons from the XDAii to start the voice dial feature but not from the headset pickup / make call button.
Any ideas if this can be resolved or if there is another voice dial software that can be activated to make a call by clicking the O2 blue headset? And/or another headset that works so I don't have to keep getting this thing out of my bag to make a call? - Would have thought this would have been a basic requirment of a phone/pda this size?
Cheers,
R
Same problem with Jabra BT250v
I have the same problem with my XDA IIi and Jabra BT250v headset. O2 Customer services are absolutely no help, they say "there is no headset available at the moment that will function properly with xda IIi". O2 Shops say all headsets will work but you need to buy one and then try", what does one believe and go to get help...........?
Fisely
Re: Same problem with Jabra BT250v
fisely said:
I have the same problem with my XDA IIi and Jabra BT250v headset. O2 Customer services are absolutely no help, they say "there is no headset available at the moment that will function properly with xda IIi". O2 Shops say all headsets will work but you need to buy one and then try", what does one believe and go to get help...........?
Fisely
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These PDA's dont support this functions, irrespective of where you buy it from. orange, voda, o2, t-mobile - they just can't do bluetooth voicedial. Naff but true.
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Yes, strange but true, it seems the reason is that the xda series are pda's with phone capability, not phone with pda capability so they thought they would leave out that particular feature. Probably something to do with marketing but I cant see the logic of it for the life of me.
BT headset auto-answer
cruisin-thru said:
Yes, strange but true, it seems the reason is that the xda series are pda's with phone capability, not phone with pda capability so they thought they would leave out that particular feature. Probably something to do with marketing but I cant see the logic of it for the life of me.
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I have a O2 mini, and Sony BT Headset. I also have a disability and this 'non-feature' is more than just an 'annoyance' for me.
Calling out I can manage on the pda and the headset turns on automatically - though voice dial would be handy, it's the answering that I have trouble with.
Can you tell me, is the 'bit' that switches a incoming call to a BT headset part of the BT in MSWindows 2003se PPC software or part of the O2 firmware or part of hardware?
What does the answering? Could a utility be written that detects an incoming call and switch answer to a BT headset?
David
There are two known pocket pc phones that have bluetooth voice dialling; the Motorola MPX and the Eten M500. So its not a limitation of the OS, just short-sightedness of some app developers
Looking for a way to hit the mic button on the wired headset that comes with the TyTn to dial a number with a voice tag. I am using the leaked official WM6 rom which has the cyberon voice dialer working. What I haven't been able to do is launch the voice dial using the button on the mike. Even AE button mapper cannot pick it up as a button to be configured.
To do my homework, I searched using 8525, headset button, config, etc. but a) I got hits for other phones (ba, etc) and b) got a lot of posts on how to set up bluetooth phones, which doesn't apply in this situation. I found this cab ba_wm5_voice_dialer.zip but it didn't install complaining about insufficient rights, which I had never seen on a pocket pc. Maybe because it's for WM5.
Any help or links to previous threads on this would be appreciated. Right now, I have to take the phone out of my pocket to dial, which kind of defeats the purpose. Many thanks in advance.
I have no idea whether this helps or not but I remember this as a big topic on the Wizard when it first came out and there was this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...highlight=voice+dial+headset+mic+button+wired I'd be interested to know if you get anywhere
Well, I tried those - thanks for the link. I get no feedback after I run the program whatsoever, so I guess it doesn't work. It does run though, since if you run it twice, it gives you energy levels- that much works, but the rest doesn't seem to.
I'm surprised dialing with the wired headset isn't supported out of the box since it's a part of the package, but oh well. I hope someone else has heard of something about this for the tytn.
Since HTC loves to give the community sleepless nights with duzent of troubleshootings, here a new task.
The TP2 has a Broadcom BT Stack installed... Okay a nice UI in comparison with the default Microsoft one.
BUT: I realy miss the PTT function.
Normaly you can create a shortcut inside the windows dir called SHORT_PTT.lnk or LONG_PTT.lnk for binding tasks to the PTT.
Or when You install MS VC you can access Programs or dial numbers via voice.
It could be that you have to change some values in the registry...
for example HKLM\SOFTWARE\OEM\VoiceCommand string "Path" to "\Programme\Voice Command\VoiceCMD.exe"
I own a Jabra BT8040 and I realy love it... but without the PTT function it nearly gets useless if i have to pull out the Phone to make a call or look for my upcoming tasks. The reason why i'm buying a BT - Headset is to keep the Phone inside the case.
I now read about a "Maybe" solution I havent tested right now.
read more here
It will be enought if I'm able to bind the Ptt button on my headset to any Programm or Mortscript by holding or tap. (The double Tap feature to redial still works).
I allready called HTC for more Support but the "Hotline Guy" who btw wasn't that able to understand german language doesn't realy understood that the fact is not that MS VC doesn't work correctly but that the PTT function is disabled completly.
So all you junks like me out there let's get a workaround on that.
What's your value of the following registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\VoiceCommand\VoiceCmdEnable
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway\BTAGEXTModule
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\VoiceCommand\VoiceCmdEnable
value="1"
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway\BTAGEXTModule
value="\Windows\btagext.dll"
after my last tryed fix ^^
I now reinstalled MS VC and my new Values are:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\VoiceCommand\VoiceCmdEnable
value="1"
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway\BTAGEXTModule
value="\Programme\Voice Commander\vcbthag.dll"
but both doesn't work
how about uninstall MSVC and try Cyberon VC?
If still not working, make a full backup and put this dll to \Windows and change this in registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Au dioGateway\BTAGEXTModule
value="\Windows\OEMAGW.dll"
Soft reset and try again.
cyberon VC
I haven't found Cyberon VC supporting german language yet.
But Cyberon VC doesn't work eighter...
haven't tried the dll yet but but is useless if only english is supported.
Thanks for your replys
Hope it isn't true but it looks like (i have read it sommewhere on the web) voice composing over BTh wasn't possible due to the Widcom Stack. Having tryed many things and tweaks, nothing.
It is a big mistake from HTC to have not implemanted Voice command over BTh in thus a pro supposed device !
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Hope it isn't true but it looks like (i have read it sommewhere on the web) voice composing over BTh wasn't possible due to the Widcom Stack. Having tryed many things and tweaks, nothing.
It is a big mistake from HTC to have not implemanted Voice command over BTh in thus a pro supposed device !
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No, VC over BT did work on my P525 which use Widcom stack as well. It's probably HTC's engineer NEVER got BT working right
Widcomm Stack
That your BTH worked on your other device doesn't mean that it works on the Touch Pro 2 ... bet your device has an other version of the stack.
Looks like the PTT function is reserved for Broadcom or Widcomm devices only.
Or is totaly out of ordern...
This is a realy BIG MISTAKE from HTC... hope they change this in the next Roms.
I'm still in Mail contact with HTC about this.
Let you know if something changes...
I just got my tp2 today, saw it had a BC stack and I knew they messed something up.
PTT & BT headset is like the only thing I actually need BT wise and they broke it, on a pro phone. I guess every (legal) in-car user will be very disappointed about this, considering this should be a "pro" phone.
I can confirm PTT doesn't work with Cyberion Voice Speed Dial nor MSVC. Also, the usual registry settings HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth are there, but changing them doesn't seem to have any impact as the BC stack should(!) handle them. I had a quick look through the widcomm stack settings in the registry but couldn't find any obvious settings for PTT
Something weird:
If I don´t set up a data connection to my carrier, the link to my bluetooth car kit works perfectly, meaning that I can answer calls and hang up using the button on the steering wheel.
Once I set up a connection, I can only answer and hangup using the buttons on the telephone. I any case I can listen and talk using the car kit.
Any ideas of how to solve this puzzle?
Edit: new finding: If set up a connection but data connection is off, everything works fine. When data connetion is on, then it doesn´t work.
Any Ideas?
The touch pro2 can't carry out the voice speed dial function with my bluetooth headset.
tap the call handling button on the headset can not make anything happen. Neither by press and hold the button.
The only function still remain with the sony-ericsson HBH-DS970 is double tap the call handling button on the headset to re-dial the last number.
The voice speed dial function is very useful when your hands is busy, such as driving. What can I do now?
I have two bluetooth headset, one is sony-ericsson HBH-DS970 and the other is SIEMENS HHB-750.
The software I use is cyberon Voice Speed Dial V1.2.
The following is an answer from HTC:
"I do not know how you have got Cyberon installed as it is not instaled on the device by default.
I therefore cannot give you any support as the devices do not have any voice command software installed out of the box.
best regards,
HTC Europe Support"
I can't have anymore words on this.
Correct it doesn't work There are a number of threads about this around here.
I use Microsoft Voice command and have to (long) press the send key on the phone then it kicks in through the Bluetooth car kit. The general theory is this is a side effect of the change in Bluetooth stack made on this phone, I'm sure we'll see a fix, but probably not until we start seeing cooked ROMs.
Gordon
All you can do is to change the settings for the Send button to launch CVSD when you hold it, but for doing this with your headset's button, unfortunately you'll have to wait... for another ROM...
all the best
Reporting in from Canada here... after reading a couple of threads about issues with bluetooth voice dial, I got concerned and tried it this evening with my Jabra BT3030 and Telus TP2. Voice dial using the included MS Voice Command software works properly when I press the voice dial button on the BT3030. So... the problem isn't universal; we have at least some bluetooth devices out there that work properly with voice dialing on a TP2.
Hope that helps,
--VelJharig
VelJharig said:
we have at least some bluetooth devices out there that work properly with voice dialing on a TP2.
Hope that helps,
--VelJharig
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Would you please list some detail information,such as type number, of the bluetooth devices which work perfectly on voice dial?
I seached on this forum and many other chinese forum, almost all of them report the voice dial can't be launch for the call handling button on the bluetooth device.
Thanks in advance.
net_walker said:
Would you please list some detail information,such as type number, of the bluetooth devices which work perfectly on voice dial?
I seached on this forum and many other chinese forum, almost all of them report the voice dial can't be launch for the call handling button on the bluetooth device.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi net_walker,
I'm not sure if I correctly followed your question, but if you're asking for the model number of bluetooth devices that seem to work with the TP2, I gave that in my original post. It is the Jabra brand, model "BT3030" that works correctly for me on my Telus TP2. The basic web page for the model is here:
http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/na-us/Headsets/Pages/JabraBT3030.aspx?productfamilytab=Details
On that website, they list it as the model BT3030, with what I believe is an extended specific model number of "(100-93030000-60)".
Hope that is helpful,
--VelJharig
mmmh ! Very interesting !
At first time, i've thought for a BDR tweack to solve the problem.
Now it sounds like it is radio Rom dependant...
VelJharig said:
So... the problem isn't universal; we have at least some bluetooth devices out there that work properly with voice dialing on a TP2.
Hope that helps,
--VelJharig
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That's great news! Hopefully this will give the chefs here something to work with.
Gordon
In the forum, i'v seen somebody who had posted the Telus TP2 Sys and OEM's. I'm dowloading it and trying to analyse the OEM concerned with Ms Voice Command. Hope it can help us to solve the prob.
Schmurtz1968 said:
In the forum, i'v seen somebody who had posted the Telus TP2 Sys and OEM's. I'm dowloading it and trying to analyse the OEM concerned with Ms Voice Command. Hope it can help us to solve the prob.
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I'd be that person. If you need any other details regarding file info from the device, just let me know.
Thanks for your share.
Because at this moment we didn't have an HardSPL from our dear Olinex Team (hope they do there home work (lol)) to make a cooked rom, i'm looking for something like OEM to CAB to test the OEM into my TP2 and maybe solve the problem for all of us who can't use Bth button to make a voice call.
VelJharig said:
Hi net_walker,
I'm not sure if I correctly followed your question, but if you're asking for the model number of bluetooth devices that seem to work with the TP2, I gave that in my original post. It is the Jabra brand, model "BT3030" that works correctly for me on my Telus TP2. The basic web page for the model is here:
http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/na-us/Headsets/Pages/JabraBT3030.aspx?productfamilytab=Details
On that website, they list it as the model BT3030, with what I believe is an extended specific model number of "(100-93030000-60)".
Hope that is helpful,
--VelJharig
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Hi, everybody,
Did someone know some other bluetooth headsets work with Touch Pro2 to carry out the Voice dial function,except this one "Jabra BT3030" ?
Yes, I have the Tmobile TP2 and the Bluetooth voice dial function works with the MSVC that came with the phone. There is a 5-7 seconds wait until the microphone activates. So after I hold down the call button on the ear piece for few seconds to activate voice command, I have to wait till I hear a second sound that tells me the phone is now listening. Other than this, it works just fine.
Its an old plantronic bluetooth ear piece, dont remember the model number, but its the one with silver stripes down the length of the device on the sides. Its in my car, I will check later and add that if anybody needs the number.
My Plantronics headset can call voicedial the same way it did on my Kaiser - a long press of the "call" button.
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My Plantronics headset can call voicedial the same way it did on my Kaiser - a long press of the "call" button.
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Hmmm, very strange.
I have a Plantronics Discovery 925 myself and it's supose to be one in the winner team of Plantronics, but still nothing
And I have to say that it works just perfect with Touch Cruise, Diamond and HD.
Not with this one. You're sure you didn't done anything to your phone regarding this?
all the best
Nope - one of the first things I checked when I got the phone, it worked right out of the box before I started hacking on the registry and such.
DesperateScorpion151 said:
Yes, I have the Tmobile TP2 and the Bluetooth voice dial function works with the MSVC that came with the phone. There is a 5-7 seconds wait until the microphone activates.
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I can confirm that issue on the T-Mobile Touch Pro 2. It is a VERY long time to wait for MSVC to start listening. I wish there was a way to put the standard Bluetooth stack on here so that Voice Command would work better.
I use a variety of Bluetooth headset devices; BlueAnt S1 car kit, BlueAnt Interphone (motorcycle helmet kit), Nextlink G5, Motorola 850 Stereo headphones... and all have the same slowness for activating MSVC.
I have a MOTOROKR™ T505 and if I hold the button down it'll do last number redial but I have to hold the dial key on the phone down to get Cyberon to listen.
Can't use MSVC as it won't understand me. Lot's of humans have this problem too so it's no surprise
Anyone get anywhere with this ?
Is it fixed in 6.5 or are there any ROMs with a fix cooked in ?
I have the same problem with my SE bluetooth
I have a Tilt2 (wm 6.5) stock with a Motorola H17 and voice command works fine. About 2-3 sec after headset button push and MSVC is listening.