BT headset voice dailing - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General

I am getting a little worried here.
It is advertised everywhere that the xda IIs has voice dial, which to me reffers to me talking into a bt headset and it calls that contact.
If this is not possible, can fonix ispeak sort it?

The device comes with fonix voicedial software, but it does not work through the headset. I have my MDAIII mounted on the windscreen in the car and manage to use voicedial to make calls with over 90% accuracy and then talk through my jabra bt headset.

Which unit do you have PDA2K or IIs? I haven't seen any postings yet comparing the two devices, O2 may have addressed some BT issues before launching the IIs.
I won't have one (IIs, already have PDA2K) till next week.

getting the 2's next week. new officail date is the 15th nov. so should recieve it on the 16th

So what does it take to make this work? is it impossible. Can we not do something?
it take it that this product is using the mic hardware and not bluetooth mic?
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/cellpoint/padrblvoreha.html

Anyone come acrross this before: (scroll down to Kai’s Bluetooth Headset Patch 2004 )
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/_archives/sep04/bluetooth.asp
could something simular be done on the xda's
Or is this something where only ever going to get to use with bluetooth v2?

read this an help me please
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=12824&highlight=

Its good to see progress being made but the main problem still is a hard ware based. The mic and speaker in phone hardware need to be bridged with the ppc... which gets me thinking.....as we can speak into ppc and listen to the caller then once we BT the call it was bridge/switch it.... dont understand why something so simple and a much required feature is missing :?

Hi,
I have installed the trial version of MS command and it seems to be doing the trick... I have a qtek 9090 and I did not see any installed software for voice dialing... Is it only on PDA2K?
Thanks.

Anonymous said:
Hi,
I have installed the trial version of MS command and it seems to be doing the trick... I have a qtek 9090 and I did not see any installed software for voice dialing... Is it only on PDA2K?
Thanks.
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MS Command doesn't support bluetooth headsets either.
From the MS blurb: "Bluetooth Headset Support - Voice Command does not support using a Bluetooth headset to initiate a voice command but you can use a Bluetooth headset during the phone conversation."
So its the same as fonix. You have to speak the dialling command into the device, and it only transfers to the bluetooth headset when the device starts dialling out. If you can put up with that, fonix works pretty well.
JD

Well as much as I was looking forward to getting a PDA2K or SX-66, I feel that this is a MAJOR drawback that has me thinking twice. I read that your cannot initiate VOICE calls using a BlueTooth headset no matter what software you are running. Is this accurate?
If so, then why can the Audiovox SMT5600 do it by the way of voice tags?
Thanks,
Frank

Previous ms smartphones and pocket pc phones have not supported the bluetooth handsfree profile which would allow voice dialling. Since the new devices now support it its up to the software developers to implement it in their software. For example, using my SE HBH-200 on my imate PDA2K i can initiate voice dialling on the headset but on the imate there is nothing to interface with. If the Audiovox can do it there is no reason why a more powerful pocket pc cant do it as well

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Where/How Do I get/Upgrade PDA2k to Brodcom BT3900?

I have looked all over the Blue Angel Support forum and I was able to get the latest rom which includes the latest Radio 1.08 (I know there is 1.10 but I do not think it is available for cooking yet). I was wondering where everyone was getting this bluetooth stack from (as well as the BT3500 version) and most importantly if these two stacks support A2PD profile (High quality Headphone profile). I have this older PDA2K Broadcom cab file I got over the the firstloox forum that actually worked with my Loox 720, but I think it is a pretty old version. Do these two broadcomm stack versions include this profile and where can I get them and willI have to hardreset to install them or are they available as cab files?
Also with bluetooth on the PDA2k, is it possible to passthrough all the sound that happens in Windows mobile through the headset e.g. Music, videos, etc or is it only phone sounds that go through the headset? And are there any bluetooth headsets that can redial the last number dialed on my PDA2K using a button on the headset?
Look in WIKI for BT cabs.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Versions
(instructions for both 1.08 and 1.10 written by other forum members)
I use an I-tech headset (not sure if available in the States) this has a redial button (two short clicks)
I have last number dialed set to my answer phone, on Orange I use the Wildfire answer phone which has voice recongnition.
I can therefore dial any number using my blue tooth device.
this is exactly what I want to do. What did you use to set the answer button to last number redial. How exactly do I do this on my pda2k with a headset that has an answer button. Is it done on the headset itself or is it done on the pda2k with a special program or app? If you don't mind could you go into detail about this as this would solve the voice dial over bluetooth problem plaguing these devices as I could always use the voice service of my carrier (CIngular wireless in the US).

XDA2i Bluetooth voice dialing problem

Hi,
Newbie, just purchased an XDA2i with an O2 'blue' headset and I need some help in the voice dial area.
Turns out they are not compatible for one click voice dialing. Installed fonix VoiceDial 2.0 off the O2 installation CD but it will not activate from the Blue Headset Call button. In the XDA settings you can assign hardware buttons from the XDAii to start the voice dial feature but not from the headset pickup / make call button.
Any ideas if this can be resolved or if there is another voice dial software that can be activated to make a call by clicking the O2 blue headset? And/or another headset that works so I don't have to keep getting this thing out of my bag to make a call? - Would have thought this would have been a basic requirment of a phone/pda this size?
Cheers,
R
Same problem with Jabra BT250v
I have the same problem with my XDA IIi and Jabra BT250v headset. O2 Customer services are absolutely no help, they say "there is no headset available at the moment that will function properly with xda IIi". O2 Shops say all headsets will work but you need to buy one and then try", what does one believe and go to get help...........?
Fisely
Re: Same problem with Jabra BT250v
fisely said:
I have the same problem with my XDA IIi and Jabra BT250v headset. O2 Customer services are absolutely no help, they say "there is no headset available at the moment that will function properly with xda IIi". O2 Shops say all headsets will work but you need to buy one and then try", what does one believe and go to get help...........?
Fisely
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These PDA's dont support this functions, irrespective of where you buy it from. orange, voda, o2, t-mobile - they just can't do bluetooth voicedial. Naff but true.
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Yes, strange but true, it seems the reason is that the xda series are pda's with phone capability, not phone with pda capability so they thought they would leave out that particular feature. Probably something to do with marketing but I cant see the logic of it for the life of me.
BT headset auto-answer
cruisin-thru said:
Yes, strange but true, it seems the reason is that the xda series are pda's with phone capability, not phone with pda capability so they thought they would leave out that particular feature. Probably something to do with marketing but I cant see the logic of it for the life of me.
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I have a O2 mini, and Sony BT Headset. I also have a disability and this 'non-feature' is more than just an 'annoyance' for me.
Calling out I can manage on the pda and the headset turns on automatically - though voice dial would be handy, it's the answering that I have trouble with.
Can you tell me, is the 'bit' that switches a incoming call to a BT headset part of the BT in MSWindows 2003se PPC software or part of the O2 firmware or part of hardware?
What does the answering? Could a utility be written that detects an incoming call and switch answer to a BT headset?
David
There are two known pocket pc phones that have bluetooth voice dialling; the Motorola MPX and the Eten M500. So its not a limitation of the OS, just short-sightedness of some app developers

Voice commands and recognition..

Hello all,
I saw that is alot of voice recognition/commands software are spead around the world,
Which program are best to work with SPV M2000 (2003SE) ?
Does anyone can suggest please?
The new microsoft voice command.V1.5 i think?
I am also very happy with Microsoft Voice Command 1.5 US - tried some of the others but I will stick to VC.
But you can't activate a voice-dial from a bluetooth headset (you have to press a button on the handset) *and* it won't listen from the mic in the headset either. It's pretty infuriating.
LONG SHOT: Has anyone hacked the bluetooth stack to allow this?
Chris

A2DP and BT version

Greetings -- I've upgraded to BT 3900 for Motorola HS850 hands-free, which works, although with static.
Now, I got i-tech Clip, and it worked as a hands-free as well. But read on.
I wanted to try it as high-quality audio setup, so I got the profiles -- although for build 3500 -- off the ftp. It did show that profile, but quickly failed to dicover the service on i-tech. As I deleted the hands-free profile, I try to get at least that back. Alas! Now it doesn't connect to hands-free i-tech either.
I've tried: installing 3500, 160.600, -- still discovery fails. What's the rollback procedure to get 3900 with its profiles back?
Braver, I also have Clip S35 from i-Tech. It works so fine with my Xda II (Widcomm Stack + Handsfree Profile and A2DP)
Did you try to reset your Clip S35 and try to pair it together again?
How did you get the A2DP profile? I've installed the profiles for build 3500 from the ftp, it added high-quality audio (is it _the_ A2DP?). I had BT 3900 by then, then reinstalled various versions after i-tech could not be found the second time.
Is it OK to install the extra profiles for build 3500 with 3900?
And, when you do get an audio profile and a hands-free one, how you differentiate -- say, you listen to music and receive a call?
Sorry braver, I misunderstood ...
What I've is :-
1. O2 Xda II
2. O2 Xda II Mini
3. i-Tech BlueCON
4. i-Tech Clip S35
5. IBM X31 (My Laptop)
And I played with them like this:-
(O2 Xda II Mini + IBM X31 + i-Tech BlueCON + i-Tech Clip S35)
I pair my Mini with Clip S35 with the Handsfree Profile. I also connect my BlueCON to my X31 (plug the audio jack of BlueCON to the audio output jack of X31) and pair my Clip S35 with BlueCON.
When I listen the music from my X31. My X31 send the audio output to BlueCON and BlueCON stream the audio data to Clip S35. So I can hear the music.
And when I have the incoming call on my Mini. My Mini connect to my Clip S35 so my Clip S35 stop the music from BlueCON and go to Handsfree Profile Mode. After the hang up the phone line, Clip S35 start the music again automatically.
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For BA, I've seen from the forum but it's Thai language:-
http://www.pdamobiz.com/show_news.asp?NewsID=41062&PN=1
They said that they installed PDA2K_BroadcomCorp_BTUpdate.cab from xda-developers.com like you did and every was so fine.
Please try to check and let me know if there's what I can help.
(Also, don't forget, PIN for Clip S35 is 8888. It's not 0000)
I.tech S35 paired with WM2003 SE with Widcomm 1.6.0600
Guys, help.
I have a WM2003 SE unit with Widcomm 1.6.0600 stack and I just acquired an I-tech S35. I have the following things working:
1. Mp3 over bluetooth using Windows Media Player 9 and the high quality stereo profile.
2. Headset connection for outgoing calls.
I have the following problems:
1. with the mp3, I get interference or what I assume is interference. if I move around too much, the sound becomes choppy.
2. with the headset, I can't receive incoming call. when the call comes in, it doesn't get directed to my S35 even when it's linked via headset mode. I have to answer the phone directly from my XDA2. I tried linking the S35 with a Nokia 6600 and the incoming call is redirected perfectly well into the S35.
3. I can't get the S35 to work in "buzzer" mode, even when I pair it with a Nokia 6600.
4. I've tried calling out and the person I call always says that my call is very unclear.
Does anyone else have problems like this or has been able to resolve these problems? I could use the help or I'd be forced to sell this unit since it's practically useless to me with particularly with the second problem.
Thanks and best regards...
Winston
Hi wsabido168,
1. with the mp3, I get interference or what I assume is interference. if I move around too much, the sound becomes choppy.
Ave*: I don't think that I have the interference problem but the sound is not come out smoothly. I hear the noise like you cooking the pop corn around every 15 seconds per time. You should try to contact to the shop that you bought it and ask them to try with another one.
2. with the headset, I can't receive incoming call. when the call comes in, it doesn't get directed to my S35 even when it's linked via headset mode. I have to answer the phone directly from my XDA2. I tried linking the S35 with a Nokia 6600 and the incoming call is redirected perfectly well into the S35.
Ave*: Mine is not. I can receive the incoming call from S35. I feel like there's something wrong with your XDA II.
3. I can't get the S35 to work in "buzzer" mode, even when I pair it with a Nokia 6600.
Ave*: You can turn it on and off. Please check from the manual. It said that you need to press the button (I can't remember which one) to on and off the buzzer mode. (This problem may relate with your 2nd question, I just guest)
4. I've tried calling out and the person I call always says that my call is very unclear.
Ave*: This question may relate with the 1st question. Mine is clearly (I asked from the other side)
Hi Ave, first of all, thanks for the information.
May I ask what software you have on your system? for example, what bluetooth stack you're using and what version of the OS? Maybe I can reflash my OS to whatever you're using to get it to work properly.
Thanks and best regards...
wsabido168, you're welcome ... I've 2 of XDA.
The first on is my XDA II:-
ROM: 2.06.00 WWE
RADIO: 1.18.00
ExtROM: - (Big Storage)
Bluetooth Stack: Widcomm Bluetooth Stack 1.5.0.2000
The secound one is my XDA II Mini:-
ROM: 1.12.00 WWE
RADIO: 1.13.00
ExtROM: 1.12.119 WWE
Bluetooth Stack: Microsoft Bluetooth Stack
questions:
1. with the XDAII running Bluetooth Stack 1.5.0.2000, where'd you get the Bluetooth Stack 1.5.0.2000? how do I download and from where it?
2. when you're using Bluetooth Stack 1.5.0.2000, can your XDAII receive calls and automatically redirect it to your i-tech S35 even when you're playing mp3s?
3. with Bluetooth Stack 1.5.0.2000, do you have the profile for "high quality audio" with which to use the mp3s over bluetooth?
Thanks and best regards...
Winston
Answer 1
Read from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=17186&highlight=bluetooth+headset+high+quality
Widcomm 1.5.0.2000 File:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/download.php?id=2379
Registry File:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/download.php?id=2378
See here for the picture:
http://www.pdamobiz.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39555&PN=1&TPN=1
Answer 2
I think the answer is No,
XDA II has the Microsoft Bluetooth Stack installed from the manufacturing. It has Headset Profile but no A2DP (High Quality Audio) available. But if you want to have A2DP on XDA II, you need to install the Widcomm Bluetooth Stack.
The stack from Widcomm has A2DP and can be run on XDA II (but not work on XDA II Mini)
After you install the stack from Widcomm, you'll be able to listen MP3 using Clip S35, but if you want to use your Clip S35 to answer a call, you have to stop the Widcomm Stack and start the Microsoft Stack instead.
Microsoft Stack and Widcomm Stack can be run on XDA II but not the same time.
Answer 3
Yes, Widcomm 1.5.0.2000 has A2DP See Answer 1 for more detail.
Will it work on WM5?
I haven't try it yet but I don't think that it will work on WM5. I'm not so sure, still need someone in this forum to answer for us.
Do you know?, i-Tech has a A2DP software for Symbian OS. It's BluePlayer which I used to try on Nokia 6600. It's really cool because you will be able to listen to the music with high quality audio, also you can answer the phone call with this Clip S35 too.
I used to contact to them to asked for the A2DP software for my Magician. But the answer was they didn't have a plan to do it yet.
Has anyone managed to get Widcomm A2DP working with the headset profile?
wamatt said:
Has anyone managed to get Widcomm A2DP working with the headset profile?
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On WM2003SE or WM5? With the former, I've used the A2DP profile with Zonet ZUB8100 stereo BT headphones to listen to MP3s. Works pretty well; no static until I get 5-10 meters from the SX66.
Haven't installed WM5 yet, and I don't intend to in the near future.
Hey guys,
Thanks to all the information from you guys, I have gotten it to work (A2DP and bluetooth with my S-35 headset and XDAII (installed with WM2003SE) but still have a problem with the fact that the Broadcom does NOT permit received calls to be redirected to the headset therefore giving it less functionality than if I were using a Nokia cellphone with this headset.
If anyone has a fix to this problem, please let me know.
Thanks and best regards...
Winston
Winston, I took a long time to search on the internet but nobody could give me the information to fix it.
Somebody said that the problem of Headset Profile from Widcomm Bluetooth Stack and Xda II is about the Audio Gateway and Wave Driver. The Wavedev.dll didn't redirect the audio output to Handfree Profile of Widcomm Bluetooth Stack. This is all that I know about.
Anyway, nice to talk to you. Feel free to let me know if there's somethings that I can help or what we can share.
Ave*
ok. thanks again Ave.
3waygeek said:
wamatt said:
Has anyone managed to get Widcomm A2DP working with the headset profile?
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On WM2003SE or WM5? With the former, I've used the A2DP profile with Zonet ZUB8100 stereo BT headphones to listen to MP3s. Works pretty well; no static until I get 5-10 meters from the SX66.
Haven't installed WM5 yet, and I don't intend to in the near future.
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I'm on WM2003 Rom 1.40 with WMP10. I can get A2DP working as well, however headset doesnt work properly then (IE can't take calls on the headphones).
Also another annoying problem is that WMP10 turns off after 5 minutes (ie screen goes blank), this interrupts the A2DP session, and I have to reconnect.

XDA Orbit 2, TomTom and Bluetooth

Hi,
I have the following problem:
I am using XDA Orbit 2 and a car-radio Maqma MQ-106BT. This radio offers Bluetooth-connection to my XDA. It supports the BT-headset (A2DP) and the handsfree profiles.
After pairing the car-radio is shown with both active profiles in the settings-screen of the XDA.
I want the car-radio to play the radio program and to give the TomTom-voice using the car-speakers. The system works very well for the phonefunktion. But if I start TomTom the radio sound stops and only the voice of TomTom is to be heard but nothing between the TomTom comments. It seems, as if TomTom uses the BT-headset Profile and thus the radio is always waiting for sound from the XDA.
Are there XDA-settings which would help me or is there a possibility to force TomTom to use the handsfree profile, thus only muting the radio if there are comments from the navigation?
I hope here are some experts who are able to help me!
Best regards from Luebeck
Micha
Hi,
I can't believe it: Not even one answer?
Is it really such a special task? I have thought that here in this forum there are only XDA-specialists???
Please, if there is someone who has an idea, please help!!!
Regards
Micha
Bump, I have a similar question in the Athena forum. Best guess I have is to mess with the registry to force the tomtom commands to not go through A2DP, but through HCP (phone signal) - that way priority is assured, but you may have to physically hang up the signal to get back to radio. At least the signal would start automatically....
As far as i know to allow the radio to be played in between tomtom voice commands you would need a fixed wired connection and also a car radio system that allows line in input to be switched on and off. The problem isnt the PDA the problem is the radio system in the car.
As far as i know to allow the radio to be played in between tomtom voice commands you would need a fixed wired connection and also a car radio system that allows line in input to be switched on and off. The problem isnt the PDA the problem is the radio system in the car.
i have the same issue with the tytn2, i cant get my tomtom sound over my radio.
I'd appreciate it if anyone could help!
fwiw, I am still searching the forum for a solution. I have found some old bluetooth posts, that may hold the key:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=281977
in particular, message #2 of thread, concerning BTAudioNav hack:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1046077&postcount=2
Some of this info is dated, so I haven't tried anything yet, and as the posts indicate, it takes 2 to tango. The WM6 device may be doing everything right, but the equipment you are pairing to may not be able to be configured correctly....
Update, BTAudioNav is not working, I assume that it is for PocketPC and I am running WM6
?!? Tomtom commands
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I have the same problem.
Phone: HTC tytn2
Bury Wired Handfree
Perfect Sound Quality for Calls but: No system Sound, no TomTom Sound.
Yesterday i drive on the Highway, Tomtom was on and a call was incoming but the tytn2 was rebooting by him self .... AND NOW IT WORKS !
I hear all tomtom commands! I don't no why but it works!!!
Update, it seems that tomtom goes over the a2dp signal and not the handsfree profile.
If it was handsfree profile, it would cut into the car stereo music. A2dp doesn't have priority though with most car stereos.
Had I known this, I wouldn't of purchased tomtom....

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