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XDAIIi, Bluetooth Headset and GPS

Hi
I'm looking at purchasing an XDA IIi from O2, both to use as a PDA, phone and for SatNav. It's likely that I'll go with TomTom and I already have a Bluetooth GPS receiver.
I've already got an O2 blue headset that works with my SonyEricsson T610 and I'll also be wanting to use that whilst in the car.
I have some questions that I hope some of you might be able to answer...
Is it possible to use both a bluetooth headset and bluetooth GPS at the same time?
Does the XDA IIi support the O2 blue as the SE T610 does, i.e. I press the button and say the contact I want to call and then the phone (home, mobile etc).?
Thanks for any help!
GWG

Hi
I have the Jabra BT 200 headset and the Leadtek 9537 GPS unit. They both work fine at the same time on my Xda IIi.
I was checking the GPS using Pocket Streets (have not re-installed Tom Tom yet but I do not envisage a problem)
The BT setup seems better on the IIi, there wasn't any messing around with the COM port settings like there was with the Xda II.
If you mean the fonix VoiceDial software that comes with it, then yes, it does work that way.
On the whole, I am pleased with the IIi (I had the II for a year), the camera is flakey but I can live with that.

MarkySan...
Thanks for that... Looks like it'll do what I'm after
I might then have to become a regular on these forums!
Cheers
GWG

Be warned, if you mean the o2 CLIP blue headset (made by iTech), I also have it and have been unable to get it working. (Why oh why can I not have the old stack from the xda2 as that worked perfectly with headset profile)
At one point I was briefly able to get it installed as a handsfree device but it then stopped working. Before I got rid of my xda2 I tried re-pairing the devices and it worked great first time. Other BT headsets I had access to worked fine.
Does anyone else have this headset and an xda2i? I've posted about this before but got absolutely no feedback whatsoever. Could anyone tell me if they're using a clip style headset (not the ones that hook round your ear) with the 2i...how much it cost and what make etc. I may have to bite the bullet, sell the o2 headset and buy another one.
Cheers
Anthony

2 BT devices simultaneously on XDA II
This is an interesting problem. I've got an XDA II, a leadtek BT gps receiver and a nokia handsfree BT carkit, plus Tom Tom.
I haven't got them all working at once yet and have been told there is a problem getting the handsfree to work anyway.
This was from a so called reputable high st mobile phone chain (who also said that only one BT device could be connected at once).
Any help or advice appreciated....
David

Well, I got my XDA IIi and very nice it is too.. this is my first foray into the world of PDA so I've nothing to compare too, so I'm very pleased
I've twinned it with my O2 blue headset and it works fine.
Also got TomTom navigator and a bluetooth GPS (although you still need a cable for power across the dashboard! Doh!).
They both work together, although there does seem to be some strangeness when they're both on:
1. The GPS sometimes drifts off... although this is based on a 15 minute drive into Town only
2. When on a call, the GPS signal seems to go completely and TomTom doesn't know where I am!
I do have a question about WiFi and MMS if anyone could help...
I have a WLAN at home, whihc the XDA IIi seems to connect to fine. However, when I am connected to it, I cannot send or receive MMS messages.. I'm sure it's something to do with this 'Internet' or 'Work' stuff, but this is all rather confusing. Has anyone written an idiots guide to all these strange settings?
Thanks!

ive used it all week on calls and even had the voice through my jabra 250 gps stayed on all the time it was fine the only problem i had was i couldnt get gprs without a softreset

Alix, are you saying you got the Tom Tom voice directions through the Jabra?
If so, I'm off to get the i!

Firstly is this forum ONLY for developers?
Because you will quickly discover that I am not a developer but a confused user and I was hoping that I could get some advice here?
Anyway I have a Bluetooth headset and was considering getting TomTomGo but also wondered if the headset and a BT GPSr would work together.
Also does anyone know if we will ever get voice dialling working on MobilePPC? I had a brief discussion with someone at Fonix who said that "Microsoft does not expose the necessary functions to third party software developers like Fonix".

Actually, now I've been using it for a while, it seems the reason Tom Tom drifted was because of a loss of signal.
Using the BT headset and Tom Tom with the BT GPS together is fine.
What is annoying though is the fact that the Phone App pops up in front of Tom Tom and doesn't go away when the call is complete.
Also, when touching the button on the headset to open the connection with the phone, it doesn't automatically start the Voice dial, you still have to reach across and fumble about looking for the button on the side. Has anyone got any ideas if it's possible?
That being said, the voice dial works OK.. not brilliant, and the voice that tells me what it thinks I've said is rather disappointing.. I want to keep telling it to 'Please speak more clearly' !
And I too can hear the Tom Tom voice prompts through the BT headset when the conection is open, although I prefer not to.

See my note re what the Fonix guy said above.

aRGybaRGy said:
Well, I got my XDA IIi and very nice it is too.. this is my first foray into the world of PDA so I've nothing to compare too, so I'm very pleased
I've twinned it with my O2 blue headset and it works fine.
Also got TomTom navigator and a bluetooth GPS (although you still need a cable for power across the dashboard! Doh!).
They both work together, although there does seem to be some strangeness when they're both on:
1. The GPS sometimes drifts off... although this is based on a 15 minute drive into Town only
2. When on a call, the GPS signal seems to go completely and TomTom doesn't know where I am!
I do have a question about WiFi and MMS if anyone could help...
I have a WLAN at home, whihc the XDA IIi seems to connect to fine. However, when I am connected to it, I cannot send or receive MMS messages.. I'm sure it's something to do with this 'Internet' or 'Work' stuff, but this is all rather confusing. Has anyone written an idiots guide to all these strange settings?
Thanks!
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You can ONLY connect to MMS via the O2 GPRS network. Since your WIFI is outside their network, and is somebody elses, they won't let you login to their servers to send. All the carriers work this way - it's how they charge!

Hi,
I have a XDAIIi, Nokia car kit and TomTom 3 bluetooth. I have been trying to connect my phone to the car kit using bluetooth. Unfortunately it will only connect for phone calls. Does anyone knows how to permanently connect the phone using a different profile, so that I can listen to music and voice instruction of my TomTom using the car audio system? Any help is appreciated. Thanks
Reda

Hi,
I have a XDAIIi, Nokia car kit and TomTom 3 bluetooth. I have been trying to connect my phone to the car kit using bluetooth. Unfortunately it will only connect for phone calls. Does anyone knows how to permanently connect the phone using a different profile, so that I can listen to music and voice instruction of my TomTom using the car audio system? Any help is appreciated. Thanks
Reda

All I can help you with is that using my Jabra I press the call end button on the headset and the sound for my Tom Tom and MP3s comes through the headset.
Hope this helps.

Thanks mindracing. Do you know what services/profile your jabra return when you enquire it?
KR,
Reda

It shows up as Hands Free connection to Jabra 250.
Status just shows Jabra 250/Audio Gateway.
If you know where else to look just ask.

Thanks mindracing. yesterday I tried every possible combination but it seems I cannot stream my music and Tomtom instruction to the car kit.
Thanks anyway.
KR
Reda

just a note on this. I have had a jabra bt205 working with a QStarz BT-800 gps, it works ok BUT when i changed from the jabra to a stereo headset it workd ok too but only on the crap audio quality. I installed the cab file for A2DP support. now i have really good audio but as soon as i try to connect the gps the audio goes all choppy and eventualy cuts out.
It is of my limited opinion that you cant run A2DP and a bluetooth GPS because of the bandwidth (data transfer) available. Ive yet to see if i can get tomtom running with the wired gps and A2DP quality headset.
Think ill be goin back to wired headset for on the bike so i can have music, tomtom and calls... just need to find someone on here who has got a voice dial prog to run from the green call button on the wired headset.

GPS and BT Headset on XDA II
Anton.Valleyman said:
Does anyone else have this headset and an xda2i? I've posted about this before but got absolutely no feedback whatsoever. Could anyone tell me if they're using a clip style headset (not the ones that hook round your ear) with the 2i...how much it cost and what make etc. I may have to bite the bullet, sell the o2 headset and buy another one.
Cheers
Anthony
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I use the MS BT stack with my Blue Ant BT earpiece and the Broadcom BT stack with a BTGPS74R receiver (aka Holox BT-321). They both work well individually, but not together. Another post made the point about com port issues ... well yes, I use the Broadcom BT Manager for this purpose, but the XDA II does not pair with the Blue Ant, even with TomTom 6 OFF. It shows up but is not really paired correctly.
Perhaps there is a simple answer ... if so, I am sure someone will advise me.

Parrot CK3300 GPS CAR KIT - Any experience?

I am interested in this http://www.parrot.biz/united_kingdom/products/index.php?id=ck3300 Does anybody have any experience using this device, how well does it work etc. ?
I plan on using it with O2 Mini S and possibly Tom Tom software what do you guys think?

I have a CK3300 and the similar CK3100 (no GPS) in my wife's car.
They work superbly with Sony Ericsson phones, less well with Motorolas and Nokias but a bit of a disaster with the XDA Mini-S. Doesn't auto connect, doesn't synch contacts properly, overwrites voice tags. There's a bunch of posts on the subject in the Parrot forum on their website. Rumours that there will be a software upgrade shortly which will address some issues.
I haven't got around to trying the GPS with TomTom on the XDA (as I can't get it to install!) but it worked fine with my previous PPC (an iPaq RX3715)
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Dave

I have a CK3300 not had to meany problems on the GPS side but my xda 2s and my axd mini would not work with the handsfree bit.
My xda exec works fine on GPs and handsfree.
Very good bit of kit overall

Beside experience, I have a question to post here.
I have Parrot СК3300 for 2 years. As handsfree kit, it works perfectly with Sonyericsson K750i, 700i, Z800, P900. With Sonyericsson P900, it works perfectly as hands free kit and GPS module simultaneously.
However, after connecting my QTEK2020i (1.11.00 WWE, Radio 1.02.00, ExtROM 1.11.113 WWE dd 27of Jan 2005) I can use Parrot as GPS module only. Any attempts to use Parrot as kar kit leads only to loud clicks from speakers. So just for now, I use Parrot as hands-free for Sonyericsson K700i and as GPS module with QTEK simultaneously.
No way to fix it. I delete all Bluetooth devices, soft reset, ad only Parrot as hands-free, soft reset. No result.
Can you suggest me how to fix it.
Thanks in advance!

Hi,
I have a CK 3000 intsalled with Tom Tom and a third party BT GPS mouse. The Parrot works very well but it has to be paired as a Hands-free set and not as a headset. One small bug, though: I have to start TT first for the GPS to connect when getting back into the vehicle. After that I start the engine, which connects the CK3000 to my MDA II. If the CK is connected first, TT can't find the mouse.
I've been looking for a way to get the audio to be put through the the CK. I once found a piece of software that could do that on this site but inspite of hours of searching, I haven't been able to find it again. - HELP!

parrot car kit
I have a parrot CK3500 GPS car kit and it works well with TomTom Mobile 5 on my SPV E200 ,C500, C550 and has worked with TomTom Navigator 5 my M2000 as well. This is for Voice AND GPS simultaneously.
with earlier versions of TOMTOM i needed to rename the bluetooth connection from Parrot to TomTom Wireless GPS.
I have an XDA Mini S too which is on a data only tariff (so havent tried handsfree) but TomTom 5 works with it for GPS. They seem a little fiddly to set up, but once set up they are great.
I found i needed to use "AnyGPS Tweak" on all the smartphones to get it to connect initially
I had a CK3300 in another car and that worked exactly the same.
The only criticism is that the GPS voice instructions dont go through the speakers. However sometimes they do, and it seems to be if you start TomTom before you switch on the car ignition, the car kit thinks a call is in progress and relays the GPS through the speakers. It doesnt always work, but sometimes its a bit of a shock to get Jane bellowing through the speaker!!
The downside is that if you take a voice call over the car kit, it seems to re-set and the GPS voice then reverts back to the phone speaker.
I have emailed Parrot about this and have not had a reply as yet.

Re: parrot car kit
shadowman said:
I found i needed to use "AnyGPS Tweak" on all the smartphones to get it to connect initially
I had a CK3300 in another car and that worked exactly the same.
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Thanks for your reply.
As far as I understand, I can't solve problem with incoming - outcoming telephone calls by some "secret' QTEK settings.
Therefore, I'll try to find "Any Bluetooth Tweak" program to fix it.
Can you suggest any "Tweak" software?

HTC P3300 and PARROT CK-3100

I use the Bluetooth connection between the HTC and the Parrot and it works just fine in my car…. As far as the phone hand-free functions are concerned.
When I installed TomTom (ver. 6) on the HTC I assumed that the voice of the navigator would also come out through the car speakers connected to the Parrot.
This is not happening! The phone conversations are going through the Parrot and INDEPENDENTLY the TomTom voice comes out of the HTC!
This creates quite a mess when I am driving (while TomTom navigates) and I get a phone call: TomTom keeps on talking over the phone conversation and most of the HTC screen is covered by the “incoming phone call” notification!
Moreover the ringtone of the HTC does not seem to work when connected to the Parrot and only a very feeble chime is there to signal an incoming call.
Does anyone have a solution to fix this inconvenient situation?
Thanks in advance for the insight!

I've got the same setup as you and have the TomTom voices coming out of the phone which has been the same with my previous phones such as the SPV C550 and he HTC wizard. I think it's down to the bluetooth stack implementation on the Windows Mobile phone. My mobile mutes TomTom when I am in a call and I get a flashing mute icon shown on the TomTom screen.
One thing to try is the Jetware bluetooth extension http://www.jetwaremobile.com/ which is designed to improve compatability with the Parrot systems. It will certainly help you get the correct ringtones through the speakers, though I'm not sure if it will help with TomTom voices.
Neil

Hello
There is a tool cald btaudio i have installed it on my p3300 and when i am connected with my parrot i switch btaudio on and i have tomtom voice true my speakers
I dont know were i dl it but when you google on btaudio sure you be able to find it !!
Greetz

Thanks guys
Sorry I have been so busy lately I barely logged in the Forum. Just wanted to let you know that I have seen your replies and will look into the solutions you suggested. THANKS.. will get back to you soon with (hopefully positive)feedback

Vaguely related and possibly usefull information here:
http://www.modaco.com/Guide-to-usin...oneer-Bluetooth-Car-Stereoand39s-t252613.html

hotatomic said:
Hello
There is a tool cald btaudio i have installed it on my p3300 and when i am connected with my parrot i switch btaudio on and i have tomtom voice true my speakers
I dont know were i dl it but when you google on btaudio sure you be able to find it !!
Greetz
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Thanks hotatomic! I have installed that appz and it works!!! Great tip!
Any other useful tools for the P3300 we could exchange?
Cheers!
SiperX

HTC WM6 - Car Kit Bluetooth Problem (no sound at all)

After upgrade to the official HTC WM6 ROM (spanish version) my integrated bluetooth hansdfree CAR-KIT doesn't work anymore (with WM5 the system works perfectly).
The car is a new CITROËN C4 Picasso, but i think this problem must involve any new PSA Group Car (CITROËN, PEUGEOT...) that mount the same kit.
I can pair the CITROËN hansfree with the TyTN, and both connects (i can see the operator name, the battery level, and the signal level, that WM5 stack doesn't show) but when i try to call, or i receive a call, there is no sound throw the hansfree system.
I also have tried the Jetware bt extension with no succes.
At now i had to downgrade to WM5 because this problem (i need the handsfree working).
The cuestion is...
Is it possible for a ROM MASTER to extract a previous bluetooth working TyTN stack to overwrite the stack that comes with official WM6?... (the WM5 or any working WM6 working stack).
Thanks

The same problem here with the same car; also the Artemis on WM6 (I tried several roms) has no sound.
Downgraded to WM5, and it's all working again.
Not yet tried to get an update for the car; maybe there is also a solution.

I have the same problem with Motorola HF-850 car kit. I'm about to downgrade too. This sux.

Same issue here with Nissan Sentra 2008.
I can dial and receive calls but the audio works about 30% or the time. It is hit or miss.

Same here in a 2007 UK CITROËN C4 (5 door hatchback) with factory fitted Bluetooth car kit, using an Orange M3100 with the Schap's WM6 Pro 3.60a ROM. Looks like I'm going back to the Orange WM5 ROM as this is a deal breaker for me. Very disappointing.

try this
I had similair problems a few pretty good solutions:
-jetware search google i use this one
-Solution:2
Change the COD (Class of Device) from a PDA device to a smartphone device.
This can be done this way:
1. First make sure you've got a backup, or remember all settings you change in the registry.
2. Edit with a registry editor the following key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\SYS\COD
By default my vario II does have the value: 1048852 (decimal)
Change this to: 5374476 (decimal).
3. Soft restart your device
4. Voila! Your device now identifies itself as a smartphone
see this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290871

Thanks!
I tried the Jetware solution: no luck.
I also tried the COD trick: very strange result, I was able to make just 1 (one) call and other calls were again not possible (no sound).
Maybe there is a solution in updating the software of the handsfree set in the car. I will ask my Citroen agent to do this, if possible.
I will post the results.

I haven't tried the COD trick, but I don't think this will work. It's not a case of my car 'ignoring' my M3100... it pairs OK, and the car's display shows an incoming call, allows me to pick it up, etc, but no sound comes out of the speakers and the other party doesn't hear my voice. It's like the car is receiving the data stream to tell it what's happening on the call, but not the sound.
I don't have any of these problems with WM5, I don't even need to use the JetWare solution.

same problem with Peugeot 407
Same problem here with Peugeot 407
What I found is that if I start a call without Bluetooth and start Bluetooth during the caal, the sound works perfectly. Every next call has the same problem as before though.
TyTN; WM6 Schap's 3.60a;Radio 1.47.00.10

Hi.
I am with Motorola's HF-850 car kit and I get the sound only after 8-10 full seconds from answering. It is so sad that I have to say "wait....wait" every time I answer a call....

There is a post on this forum that suggests someones got it working with an Audi and the latest Black beta rom...
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/hermes-black-rom-support/11291-black-x-beta-2-smash-trash-11.html
Anyone tried this?
This post also suggests that the newest Black roms may have fixed the issue
http://htc-devs.com/forum/index.php?topic=42.msg321;topicseen
Here's hoping!

That will not work on the Artemis
But I tried several WM6 roms, including the Black & Blue 4.1: no luck.
Looks like a real WM6 issue, as it's happening with several phone models.
UPDATE: No software update for the factory Citroen bluetooth handsfree according to the local dealer; so that's no solution

I have tried 5 of the latest roms yesterday including all the fixed mentioned in this forum. The best I got was with Sleuth rom where I get audio about 50% of the time. Answering with that rom results in a 5 seconds delay before audio connects causing me to yell "wait, wait, I am here ... "
I even tried a blootooth stack from Broadcomm but the result was not better.
Out of desperation as I bought this car specially for its built in bluetooth kit, I downgraded to Cingular Mobile 5 Rom version (2.15.502.3)
I am surprised and kind of thrilled to report that my 8525 and the car kit are working perfectly together and reliably.
There must be either a bug or a setting/configuration issue on the Mobile 6 bluetooth stack that caused this issue. I am unfortunately back to mobile 5 for the time being until this issue is resolved.

SPV m3100, CK3100 AND WM6
I have an Orange SPV M3100 in Spain with WM6 and i have the same problem. With WM5 and Jetware estension, i had to pair parrot and pda manually every time i got into my car, because they did not connect automatically (Blueetoth-->Devices-->Parrot CK3100-->FreeHand-->OK), but then it works well and i could receive and make phone calls.
But since I upgrade to WM6 i have to pair it manuaaly too, they connect, but it only works from time to time; most times, if i make a call it dials but i cannot speak and people does not hear me; if there is an incoming call, I see the number in the displsy but i can receive it.
Anybody with WM6 and Parrot Ck3100 works well?

I have the same problem with a Mio C520 SatNav. Its bluetooth handsfree works fine with WM5 but not WM6.
I also posted this on a thread on bluetooth headsets, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=301636&page=6
I tried many different versions. So far with Sleuth's WM6, I had sound around 50% of the time. Similar to one of the previous posters.
Until there is a fix I will have to go back to WM5

I use a parrot car kit and it works fine. However, I noticed some new functionality on my lcd, like displaying battery and signal levels which was not available with the original WM5. That was available only with specific phones. Based on that I believe that a firmware update of your car kit could solve the problem. The issue is whether this is provided for you and if you will have to pay. Parrot offers them for free and you can upgrade via BT.

Different Bluetooth Stack?

I've been struggling for several months now to get my MDAC III working with my built-in car Bluetooth hands-free. The full details are below, but in short, I'm told that the system seems to work OK with Wizard, and I'm wondering what about the Wizard could be different to the Artemis (Bluetooth stack perhaps?), and if there is a difference, is there anything I can do about it?
The full issue: The system I'm trying to connect with is in a Land Rover Freelander 2 (LR2 in the US) Initial pairing was a bit hit and miss, but now I've got the the phone paired with the PTI, that's not a problem and they automatically pair whenever I start the car.
I can succesfully initiate or answer a call from the car, but the call itself isn't routed through the car's speakers/mic, it just goes through the phone as normal. However, once in a call if I select the "privacy" option on the PTI (which would normally have the effect I've already got of passing the call to the phone), and then select the "hands free" option, it does what it should and routes the call through the car. Effectively, it's as if the system starts in "privacy" mode rather than "hands free". Once I've done this once, subsequent calls work fine, routing straight through the car, but only until the ignition's turned off. The next time I start the car up I'm still paired, but calls go through the phone again.
If anyone's got any suggestions, I'd really appreciate them.
Thanks!

Try this
Had similar in a BMW...
Try www.jetwaremobile.com

Thanks, did try that but didn't seem to help, it seemed to be more geared towards additional functions like phonebook syncing rather than just getting a working connection in the first place. Maybe I'll give it another go.

Same Probleme On 207
hi,
I have the same ....
I precise that work fine with the original m650 rom, i search many hours but i found nothing, i try bluetooth toggle with no effect...
please help us !
thank for dev for everything they do !

RE
I try many combinaison so:
if i want to use my bt car kit, i'm forced to validate hands free option at every phone call...
I think it's btaudiotoggle the cause of mly problem, he is included in the aje rom...
you think it's possible ?

TangerineTractor said:
Had similar in a BMW...
Try www.jetwaremobile.com
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Thanks TangerineTractor!
I fixed the problem I have with car kit of OPEL ANTARA using the software you said. It works disable sending Phonebooks.

I am having a similar problem with Wizard Mobile 6 cooked ROM. Before with the official O2 ROM on my Xda Mini S, it worked fine. The car would automatically recognise the phone whenever in proximity, and all calls would go through the speaker.
Now, I have to press the car kit's button (Nokia Bluetooth) each time I get in the car, to tell it to search for devices - i.e. the phone doesn't automatically announce its presence.
So, is there a different Bluetooth Stack we can try?

My Orbit works fine with my Nokia CK-7W using a B&B ROM.

Thanks, and yep that's the same car kit I have.
When you get in the car, do you have to do anything, or does the car kit automatically detect the phone? Mine doesn't since getting the Wizard Mobile 6 cooked ROM.
Do you know what Bluetooth Stack you use, and if I can download it anywhere for the Wizard?

No, just switch on the ignition key and away it goes. Also if the car kit is set as the default hands free if the phone rings it should try to connect to the car kit.
The radio I am using is 2.95.90 I have no idea what bluetooth stack it is, Tom Codin cooked the ROM, he will know.

Okay thanks. Does anyone know if the BT Stack is part of the Radio ROM? If so I'll just try a different Radio ROM.