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Has anyone got any news on this topic, 02 say January?
How about a search on this site? A great number of us have been using BB service since 1.72.181 came out.
BB for Blue Angel... not XDAII
Dear k_kirk,
I believe that houssie was looking for BB for Blue Angel (since he posted his question on the BA forum), not for the XDAII serie (an 1.72 is clearly an XDAII rom).
I am looking for that too.
You're right of course. Apologies to Houssi & all offended.
I've been in touch with O2 who advise they are planning on a ROM upgrade at the beginning of next year to include Blackberry Support for the XDA IIs.
I was in a store in Glasgow and they advised to download the XDA II rom as this is effectively the same(!) but needless to say I didnt download it and sought advice from O2 Data support.
T-Mobile are only pushing Blackberry on the RIM devices at present, no idea if they are planning on extending to the MDA and Orange are just trialling Blackberry with the business customers at present - again no information on the SPV.
On a sidenote, it took almost 6 phone calls to various "customer service" individuals until I got a definitive answer.
Also, does anyone know if Vodafone are releasing their version anytime soon as the Company I work for use Vodafone and I'm pretty sure they'd be interested in it.
Thanks
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justa little note that i have a xda2 device with blackberry on it. could someone tell me what its for?
numanoids said:
T-Mobile are only pushing Blackberry on the RIM devices at present, no idea if they are planning on extending to the MDA and Orange are just trialling Blackberry with the business customers at present - again no information on the SPV.
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FWIW, T-Mobile DE just released the BlackBerry Connect software for their MDA II's, so hopefully that's a good sign for the rest of the T-Mobile international companies!
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justa little note that i have a xda2 device with blackberry on it. could someone tell me what its for?
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Its 'push' software for email, it'll send your mail rather than having to dial up and sync with your mail account
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Blackberry and XDA IIs
Is there an alternative to Blackberry for the XDA IIs in the meantime. I was using BB on my XDA and is was excellent - having just upgraded to the IIs, and found no Blackberry I'm in a slight dilemma.
celtic
See this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=14927
Unfortunately, the demo its offering appears to be scheduled retrieve rather than push - although if you go onto the smartner website, O2 UK is listed as being a partner. Strangely enough there's nothing on the O2 website about them or the service.
I've signed up to the demo and it seems ok, although I'm not convinced.
Oh and the demo will only allow you IMAP or Pop3 access, no desktop client or anything for corporate email.
Maybe once O2 offer it properly it will be a proper push service.
Have you looked at O2's xmail? Again its a retrieval service, although they're offering a 3 month free trial and it will hook into your existing exchange environment by way of a desktop connector - downside is that your pc has to be on permanently for the service to stay connected.
http://www.o2.co.uk/xmail
Cheers
Ok, I'll give the smartner a bash - got to be worth trying for three monthst - by then, maybe BB will be available on the IIs
Thanks
Ahhhhh.....seems to work....interesting.
Only allows one email account though :-( Shame!!!!
Give xmail a bash - its not restricted to O2 customers from what I've read in the [email protected] on the pages, and you can add up to two other accounts to that for it to poll them for you.
Just about to test it meself, I'll let you know what happens - problem [email protected] got is that my SSL certificate is self signed and their servers dont like it - time to enable non-ssl comms i think.
Added my home email to the xmail profile, but it still only accesses the part of the setup thats connected to the desktop connector.
It is possible to access the other mail via the web portal, but not much point since I can just configure it via pocket inbox.
Roll on Blackberry
Tried xmail when it first came out - was a bit flaky to say the least. And of course you needed the desktop client to be running for your XDA to get the mail!!!! Which is no good for me.
Like you say - bring on the BB rom update - cannot be that far away now really - especially as it works on the XDA II - how different can it be!!!!!
t-mobile releases blackberry for MDA III
t-mobile has released an update to the MDA III with blackberry i"m using it and it's great note that the rom is 1.22.01GER I tried loading the cab to the english 1.22.00 wwe but it doesn't work. iT DOES DOWNLOADING OF ATTACHMENTS and calendar updates over the air.
I take it you have subscribed to a T-mobile blackberry data plan?
Oooooo sounds interesting...not sure I want to learn German though for the use of Blackberry!!!!!
Yes, the 02 version on XDA II will do attachments too - very cool indeed.
We just need 02 to get themselves into gear and release a rom update!
Not sure if you've seen it elsewhere on the site, but apparently O2 havent arranged a support contract with RIM, so until they do I suspect we may be waiting.
But if they can do it for the XDA II then they must have something in place for it!!!!!
I have emailed a few people I know at 02 this evening to try and establish what the state of play is.
Quite frankly the more I think about it, I can see me sending the IIs back to them within 14days!!!
Alright Guys and Gals, it's time to take it to the next level: If we want this service from Cingular Wireless then we are going to have to make our voice heard! I do not want to see this fall by the wayside because someone decides that we really did not want this service.
I challenge all in this forum to go to the following web site and send this (in it's entire context, modified, or your own rendition) to Stan Sigman, CEO of Cingular Wireless. I would request that if you modify this request or create your own that you do not use it as a Cingular SLAM session but a true request from Cingular Sx66 Customers for an additional serivce:
Goto: http://www.cingular.com/meet_email?id=stan_sigman
Send the following message:
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Mr. Sigman;
Congratulations on becoming one of the largest wireless provides in the US. I hope that with this acquisition that we (your customers) or not forgotten in all of the turmoil that an acquisition encompasses.
I am writing you for a specific reason. Cingular Wireless has traditionally been behind the rest of the wireless service providers in the area of technology. That is why we were surprised and thrilled when Cingular Wireless began offering the Siemens Sx66 phone/Pocket PC device. Many of us (your customers) purchased this device in spite of the high price tag as we wanted this new technology that provided the possibility to combine so many of the different devices that we all carry on our belts.
There is another service that we are eagerly awaiting but have been told many times by customer support that they either are “not aware of any plans” or that “there are no plans” regarding this new service. The service is the “Blackberry Connect for Pocket PC”, a service that Cingular Wireless already provides (blackberry services) that would allow us to utilize our Siemens Sx66 devices to send and receive our corporate eMail and iPages.
TMobile International is already offering this service and TMobile USA is currently planning on implementing this technology. We (your customers) have purchased the Siemens Sx66 device, purchased the wireless plan with contract or upgraded per our contract. We have also purchased the wireless data plans or the MEdia Net service plans and are eagerly looking for some information as to Cingular Wireless’s intentions regarding this service and a possible release date. We would much rather receive this service from Cingular Wireless rather than having to switch our wireless service plans to another wireless service provider. This new service helps justify the expense of the Siemens Sx66 and will finally move us in the direction of a single device with many services.
I would appreciate receiving more information on Cingular Wireless’s intention regarding this service/technology.
Your Customer,
(Your_Name)
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Please distribute ths post on as many Sx66 forums as you can. Together we might get this service.
If anyone gets a response, please post here.
I received a call back fro mthe Office of the President. Ther Rep is currently researching internal sources to see if they are evaluating this service.
Although there are several Reps working in this office (of course the president doesn't answer his mail), but she had not heard of any other requests on the "Blackberry Connect for Pocket PC" service.
I need your help, let them know that we want, expect, and will get this service either through Cingular or TMobile (preferably Cingular)
Raptor
Received another call back. They are still researching. A couple of other Cingular customers have told me that they are receiving eMails stating that Xpress Mail or GoodLink is Cingular's Solution. GoodLink is great but does not help for the many companies that have BES infrastructures and that will not go to GoodLink.
Need more voices!
as long as you have blackberry service on your account with cingular you should be able to use your BlueAngel with BB Connect installed on it ... I'm a cingular customer but my blackberry is on T-Mobile, i'm using a multi-carrier SIM so i have both Cingular and T-Mobile accounts programmed on the SIM .... i don't have problems with the P910 as well as my XDA IIs
difensore: i agree with you, however i cannot get the cab files anywhere for blackberry connect for pocketpc.
if you could post them on the ftp site here it would be greatly appreciated!
Raptor
CAB files and desktop client files, too!
Thanks in advance on behalf of all of us suffering Cingular customers...
I am not too smart, so forgive my question: What would this service buy us that the XpressMail (Cingular service programmed by Seven) doesn't?
sorry for my ignorance...
BBConnect
Raptor,
The BBConnect .cab is actually in the BlueAngel folder of our FTP site.
i'll look for it but it should be here ...
difensore: The one that was on the FTP site was a german build for TMobile. You stated you were using a version in Americal on Cingular's Network.
What would this service buy us that the XpressMail (Cingular service programmed by Seven) doesn't?
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Those of us that use RIM devices (aka Blackberry Interactive Pagers) generally use tham as they are required by our companies, are instant (push), and have other features. There is no need foor a desktop client to be running on a PC, and are much more reliable and stable. The Xpress Mail service is very unreliable, pull, and has to be reset too often on the device and the desktop PC.
Raptor
Yes I checked, this is the germain TMobile version. an English Cingular version would be greatly appreciated and assure your honored place on this board...
Raptor
Success!!!
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Blueangel/BBConnect-4-PPC/
Thank You Mysterious Poster.... FINALLY an English version
For those all testing please post results, problems, and resolutions to a successful config.
Raptor
Success!!!
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Blueangel/BBConnect-4-PPC/
Thank You Mysterious Poster.... FINALLY an English version
For those all testing please post results, problems, and resolutions to a successful config.
Raptor
Please post username and password for Blackberry connect FTP
Could someone please post username and password for the above FTP site. THanks!
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_FTP_Site
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_FTP_Site
where is the cab?
i have been desperately looking for this english version, but it's not on the FTP, could anybody kindly send me the cab file? zillions of thanks. please send it to [email protected]
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Success!!!
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Blueangel/BBConnect-4-PPC/
Thank You Mysterious Poster.... FINALLY an English version
For those all testing please post results, problems, and resolutions to a successful config.
Raptor
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when trying to connect to above site it sais page you are looking for cannot be found, anyone else got this hassle?
It doesn't work because the folder in the link doesn't exist on the FTP site!
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Blueangel
It's still there, under a diff folder.
For those who have PM'd me my apologies I haven't had time to reply as I have been earning my salary more than ever over the last few months (good for the soul )
Yes Blackberry Enterprise Solution and Blackberry Client (or whatever it is called both work. The Rom was published many months ago and there is a cab file with the BB software in it posted on this site.
I use T-Mobile so I cannot speak for other networks.
To get BES in particular to work I recall the following:
1 Speak to T-Mobile to get the relevant service book set up for BES.
2 Downloaded to my laptop the desktop software available on the German T-Mobile site (again do a search the link is on here somewhere)
3 Gave my BB Pin to the very nice folks in my IT Dept - they are genuinely great
4 At this stage they registered my PIN on the BES server or whatever it is they do but they got an error and the Server wouldn't talk to my device.
5 One of the IT guys experienced in this said it was a problem with my SIM as it had to be specifically enabled at T-Mobile's side for BES to work.
6 I called T-Mobile and they denied this was a cellco issue initially :roll: but then I transferred their expert to the in house IT guy and low and behold they admitted that it was a SIM issue :lol: (To be fair T-Mobile have been polite and helpful to me up until recently when they have gone silent on the issue of when they are finally releasing the mythical upgrade to the MDA III software).
There you have it. As much as I know about getting BES working which is really just anecdotal as I don't profess to have IT skills. One thought I did have is that those gurus on here who have put the cab file on their machines and done everything they can are probably being blocked by your network. Ultimately they have to enable your SIM card and have inked a licensing agreement (I suspect) with the lovely RIM folks.
Good luck anyway and I hope my post has been of some small use.
J
...does anyone know if and when 02 are going to release a new ROM for the Exec?
I've had mine running now for a while with the Blackberry Connect software and it's not what you call stable. The service stops for no reason, or hangs or simply wont connect, I have to reset frequently.
I used an 02 Mini-S for a while and that was rock solid... shame the Exec isn't.
Thats the million dollar question.
Various posts about this with no answer.
I emailed O2 a week or 2 ago asking the very same thing. I did get an answer which basically said they don't know with no plans. O2 Cust service said they usually know a few months in advance but haven't heard anything.
How long is a peice of string????
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Thats the million dollar question.
Various posts about this with no answer.
I emailed O2 a week or 2 ago asking the very same thing. I did get an answer which basically said they don't know with no plans. O2 Cust service said they usually know a few months in advance but haven't heard anything.
How long is a peice of string????
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...our company got them just as they'd released the Blackberry Connect update, got that hot off the press straight from 02.
It's not such a bad piece of kit, the only wobbles I have are with the BB functionality and the phone... but then again as I said previously, the Mini-S was faultless...
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...our company got them just as they'd released the Blackberry Connect update, got that hot off the press straight from 02.
It's not such a bad piece of kit, the only wobbles I have are with the BB functionality and the phone... but then again as I said previously, the Mini-S was faultless...
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Guess your company should of pressured O2 into confirm/agreeing upgrade commitment contract etc...
Sorry, I wished O2 were better ie they release some great phones/PDA devices but still think of them as 12 month contract phones. Don't see the big picture.
Company I work for (one of the big banks in the UK) where trialing the XDA EXEC but couldn't really get what they wanted from O2.
Shame as all IT guys love the machine - just software was a bit pants.
mrbrightside1977 said:
Guess your company should of pressured O2 into confirm/agreeing upgrade commitment contract etc...
Sorry, I wished O2 were better ie they release some great phones/PDA devices but still think of them as 12 month contract phones. Don't see the big picture.
Company I work for (one of the big banks in the UK) where trialing the XDA EXEC but couldn't really get what they wanted from O2.
Shame as all IT guys love the machine - just software was a bit pants.
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...feel enclined to agree... it would have been useful to be able to browse the web on them, but they tell us as we're on a Blackberry tariff Internet access is unavailable... tried several technical work arounds to no avail.
Odd really, previously we had some T-Mobile MDAIII's with Blackberry functionality and we could browse the web with them quite well.
We were hoping for some kind of Terminal Services remote control of our services over a VPN of some description with the Exec..but the lack of Internet access on them put a stop to that.
I don't think, this is a problem specifically with the O2 company. I beleive the entire HTC Universal device provider whether O2, IMate, TMobile, QTEK, etc... HAS NO PLANS OF RELEASING ANY ROM UPDATE FROM NOW ON. Why? To them, our device is a thing of the past. They are concentrating more on their current NEW or UPCOMING devices.
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I don't think, this is a problem specifically with the O2 company. I beleive the entire HTC Universal device provider whether O2, IMate, TMobile, QTEK, etc... HAS NO PLANS OF RELEASING ANY ROM UPDATE FROM NOW ON. Why? To them, our device is a thing of the past. They are concentrating more on their current NEW or UPCOMING devices.
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...I'll not be too impressed if thats the case. I think the latest 02 device is the Orbit, looks ok, only seen it on the website though.
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...feel enclined to agree... it would have been useful to be able to browse the web on them, but they tell us as we're on a Blackberry tariff Internet access is unavailable... tried several technical work arounds to no avail.
Odd really, previously we had some T-Mobile MDAIII's with Blackberry functionality and we could browse the web with them quite well.
We were hoping for some kind of Terminal Services remote control of our services over a VPN of some description with the Exec..but the lack of Internet access on them put a stop to that.
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We decided to scrap the BlackBerries in favour of Mini S and Execs. That effectively brings in Exchange Push E-mail synchronisation, Phone Service and Internet access as well... not to say you can install GPS Sat Nav on them and other good things.
Granted, I had to understand how to make a Certificate Based Authentication to comply to the Corporate Policy, and having strong password is a real pain in the proverbial -- but still it beats all devices.
My only grudge against Exec is not so much free RAM; as a result Navigon MN|5 requires a reboot beforehand if you're going somewhere far - to prevent nasty surprises during the trip (esp. considering the goddam strong password which you can't enter with your finger...)
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I don't think, this is a problem specifically with the O2 company. I beleive the entire HTC Universal device provider whether O2, IMate, TMobile, QTEK, etc... HAS NO PLANS OF RELEASING ANY ROM UPDATE FROM NOW ON. Why? To them, our device is a thing of the past. They are concentrating more on their current NEW or UPCOMING devices.
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... Which is really SHAME, because there are so far NO "New" or "Upcoming" Phone Edition devices with VGA screen... Universal is one of a kind. Granted there are VGA devices with GPS - but no phone; or nice phones with GPS - but only QVGA or even 240*240 screen.
We've paid shedload of money and... once again guys, tough, go buy another one. ARRRRGHHH!!!!
Or shall we?
Screw this.
I guess during the Christmas holidays I'll just go and try one of the ROMs that can be found here - got nothing to lose and all to gain, and a good experience of flashing ROMs on previous XDA II Himalaya.
If these hold Push E-mail updates, screw the O2 updates altogether.
Hello,
I just got a dash from my cousin and am just wondering what internet plan I should add to my existed voice plan. Mainly, I would like to know the differences between tmobileweb ($5.99), blackberry ($19.99), and tmobile total internet ($29.99). I've heard they are pretty much the same but just different marketing. Can anyone confirm this?
Thanks a lot!
5.99 plan is t-zones and you can see some sites, and most fo them you can't interact with. The total one lets you go anywhere online and interact as much as a SmartPhone can. And the BlackBerry one I thought was only for blackberries, but I've been with t-mobile for only 1.5 months, so I might be wrong.
Alright, after searching more, I found this website detailed and explained the tmobileweb (or used to be called t-zone).
Link: http://www.gruups.com/tzones/
"The technical difference between T-Mobile Internet and T-MobileWeb with their Web access is that T-MobileWeb actually DOESN'T have port 80 & 443 (for HTTPS) open. Everything goes through the T-MobileWeb proxy which is a Nokia HTTP-To-WAP box which has to process everything before it's delivered to your phone which means surfing with T-MobileWeb is slower than the more expensive T-mobile Internet plan (but at a fourth of the price!)
This also means that things like the "Opera Browsers" and basic or old freeware might not be able to surf from your phone EVEN if it's only accessing a website through port 80. All these applications need to understand the "WAP PROXY" (on pda's and smartphones) or HTTP PROXIES (on sophistacted PDAs and notebooks)"
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So I guess T-mobileweb isn't an option for me since I will not be able to use skype and it's slower than the Tmobile total internet service. Now I need to find out the differences between blackberry plan and total internet plan.
I am pretty sure the blackberry plan is for blackberry devices only.
I used the BlackBerry Connect on my Dash. I had a Pearl and popped in the SIM card, installed the BlackBerry Connect software for MS smartphone and it worked fine.
I used the T-Zone plan, I have no problems with sites. I refuse to pay $30 for EDGE, too slow.
jeg815 said:
I used the BlackBerry Connect on my Dash. I had a Pearl and popped in the SIM card, installed the BlackBerry Connect software for MS smartphone and it worked fine.
I used the T-Zone plan, I have no problems with sites. I refuse to pay $30 for EDGE, too slow.
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So was there any difference between t-zone plan and balcberry plan for u? What blackberry connect software did you install on your dash to get it to work?
Thanks