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i really want to upgrade to wm 6.
my htc tytn does seem to run slugish with wm 5.(i have done some updates)
i use the USA cingular network
rom 1.18.255.3
radio 1.35.00.11
protocol ver 32.68.7020.10h
extrom ver 1.18.255.106.
i have done a lot of searching on the forum and have seen some programs have problems. some of these have fixes like slingbox.
i want to make sure that these programs will work after the black 2.5 upgrade. so far black 2.5 seems to be the main one people like.
here is a list of programs i am worried about.
any feed back would be great.
thanks
1.sling box. (will all ver of sling box work witht the patch? what made it stop working? would that effect any other programs?)
2.tomtom ver 6 (i really hope this works still)
3.google earth
4.vnc
5.bluetooth gampad
6.webcamera plus/cool camera
7.Implus
read the wiki and do some searches before posting a new thread please
i have read the wiki for a lot of things and the many new rom updates
and read and searched a good handful of threads.
i am not asking for anything big
just a small yay or nay. on some of the listed programs.
so hence the new thread.
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2 Yes
3 Yes
4 Yes
5 ?
6 Yes
7 ?
If you actually took the time to read for a while you'd know that with any ROM some apps will be buggy, and then along comes some fixes. Stick with WM5. If you don't have time to investigate what you're getting into, don't waste your time flashing a new ROM unless you know before-hand that you're gonna run into problems. How about this. Try a ROM, add the apps you want. If you run into problems work through them like EVERYONE else, because your configuration wont be the same as someone else's, and IF YOU TOOK THE TIME TO READ THREADS you'd already know what apps are buggy with WM6, and the ones not listed you can add if you experience a problem. That's how the whole problem/fix thing works. Sorry. I'm just sick of these threads everyday from people wanting to know some magical setup or which ROM is TEH BESTEST cause they just want a finished product and don't care about the learning process. When you make the jump to flash your device, you become a "tester" like everyone else. It's not rocket science, but it's not finger paints either.
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2 Yes
3 Yes
4 Yes
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6 Yes
7 ?
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cool thanks
ronfin44,
i "READ" the posts i know there are bugs.(hence the question on the programs)
why would i risk a bricked phone or waste any extra time if some one else has already found out the needed info. most of the programs i asked about are some what common. it would not be so crazy to think there are a few people here that have tried and have some feed back.
based on the feed back i will decide if i want to go farther.
is it too much to come up with a risk analysis before committing to a project?
my god if asking for some feed back on a small list was such a sin why even have a forum.
"Risk annalysis". When you decide to do something like this there's a risk, but an app that may not be "buggy" for one, may be "buggy" for another. Try 2.5, load your apps, and see if everything runs fine. It's usually not the apps that cause problems but the development of the ROM, ie a ton of fixes that follow once one has been released. The apps with a history are posted ALL over this forum. If you haven't seen any of yours then why not try the ROM and see? It's not magic. If you run into a problem, post it and we'll help ya work it out. The forum gets cluttered with so many threads asking questions that could be answered by hanging around and doing a lot of reading and using the search feature. I know the search function isn't perfect, but it works.
Advice; load 2.5, load your apps. Good luck. If you run into some problems, check the 2.5 thread FIRST for an answer, if not, POST IN THAT THREAD about the problems you're having with THAT ROM and people will be happy to help. It just keeps the forum cleaner.
I can report that IM+ 4.3 works without crashes or any downtime, although it drains the battery like a mofo (didn't on WM5), it works 1000x better than it ever did on my 8125 with WM5.0.
Edit: other versons of im+ 4.9 ect. will crash / lock up your hermes on WM6.0 roms so be aware you MUST use 4.3 or higher.
Hi
I have been on this forum for awhile since I got my first PDA (XDA II) about 2 years ago but only a few months ago did I register when I got tired of waiting for other people to ask questions for the answers that I wanted.
Now I have an XDA Orbit, and all of these new terms are popping up... such as USPL, CID, etc.
Because I took a long break from the forums I need to catch up with everything, and thats very difficult since its hard to make out what people are talking about and referring to when talking on the forums. I can't really comprehend what people are saying because they are talking about things that I dont know (lol). I have looked through the wiki and it doesnt explain everything, and the acronyms section doesnt contain much.
Although the WiKi is a fantastic place where people can share their ideas as a community, I was hoping that someone could maybe upload a guide such as a text file explaining everything, including terms, what certain things are used for, etc.
One thing that confuses me is that someone managed to get a leaked WM5 rom that 02 use to unbrick devices. From what I've heard dumped ROMs are exactly the same except they cannot bypass the bootloader.. could someone explain why this is? What would be the point of the dumped ROM if it cannot bypass the bootloader - surely you wouldn't be able to flash the ROM?
This is just one of many questions I have - but by having everything explained I hope to work out answers for myself using the knowledge gained from learning all these technical terms.
Thanks for your time.
Well, as much as I know...
CID = Country ID and is used to 'lock' the device to a certain country/vendor id so that any other ROM downloaded to the device would render it useless, sometimes this screws up the bootloader and 'bricks' the device... much like a sim-lock with other carriers, but more serious.
USPL = A program used to circumvent the CID lock by providing a temporary SuperCID, so that other ROMs can be flashed without the aforementioned bricking. It has to be flashed to the device before any 'exterior' ROM download.
These terms have all probably come about after the release of B&B4 ROM by tom coden, which I must say is brill!
Hope this helps,
Pete
Thanks for the info, CID locks I assume are being put on newer PDAs since the XDA II or XDA IIs didnt have these measures?
I would guess so, although I haven't added cooked ROMs to any other device as yet...
Sorry to scrutinise every answer (lol) but does 'cooked' mean that the extended ROM has been edited? or is that baked ROM?
Not being the expert on this I assume a cooked ROM to be one that has been put together, more likely meaning one that is not from the original vendor.
E.g. HTC cooked a ROM in the first place, then O2 edited it and cooked their own etc...
Anyone? Am I right?
well from how i have seen it used over the last few days since i joined, i was assuming "cooked" meant hand made or modified by someone other than the device vendor/manufacturer/Microsoft
Yeah pretty much!
Come on everyone to organize wiki
I agree that it is very hard to get into this... I have been studying for hours these late days...
I just read the 2 necessary steps for begginers:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=FAQ
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueAngel_For_Beginners
I strongly recommend them!
back to the wiki... I think that we should be writting more there and try to be more organized and cross-linked.
Some kind of tree structure would help a lot.
Besides some topics (like the one for BA above) should be generalized to give basic ideas for all devices.
I am quite new to wikis but I feel that we should exploit/collaborate more this resource.
Regards.
Thanks for those links, they are very helpful! I managed to get a read of a few useful links aswell - they were in the Himalaya section...
Also, does anyone know how I can get rid of the notification that displays your balance after making/receiving a call?
e.g. Receive a call, talk or whatever, close the call, then the message: 'Your Balance Is £283.39' (lol just an example im not really that rich hehe) comes up. I was thinking I would have to tweak the registry to remove that..it must autodial the number that displays balance automatically after making a call.
Thanks
OK, disclaimer first....
I got my Orbit approx 2 weeks ago, up until now ive been mastering it, trying software and tweaking etc.
Ive just got my Orbit exactly as I want it except I can only use a 2GB card.
(very upset as I have a 4gb SDHC)
During my web browsing I actually saw some of the deepest, darkest and most bizarre of sites but when I stumbled upon this file I had to download it. Most of the talk was in Chinese with some occasional ChinGLISH.
I dont have the balls to install these driver's,
Reason number 1 - I havent learned how to backup my rom yet or cook a new one up, thats going to be my next step on the learning ladder.
Reason number 2 - I have my device just how I want it.
Anyway......
If someone with more knowledge cares to take them apart or whatever is involved could you post your findings here.
Whatever happens, I'm not responsible.
Heres hoping
link:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/sirius-c/htc_sdhc-driver-x500.zip
probably won't work
Hi there,
i'm afraid that they won't work. as far as i can see the files are the same as linked in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310456
and there nobody has been able to get them working on artemis...
Apologies for posting again.
Apologies if this appears elsewhere but I have looked without success. If it does then a link to the solution would be great.
Basically I found this site a few weeks ago and since then have been tinkering with my phone. I've tried various roms, added different programs, played about with the settings and so on. Today I have finally got it just how I want it. It is overclocked to run quickly but safely. The today screen is perfect. It contains everything I need including my huge list of contacts. And my theme is spot-on. However usually in life when everything is right something big and hairy appears out of nowhere and dumps on you. Its got to the point where I panic every time I turn it on just in case it crashes and I need to start all over again.
My question therefore is if anyone knows of a utility (or can give detailed instructions) to completely back up the phone. Right down to the user settings, theme and contacts. If possible maybe even to create a rom image of my phone so that if it does ever crash I can reinstall the whole thing from one simple file. I assume this sort of thing must be possible because Kavana and Ricky produce such wonderful roms with various programs, etc pre-installed.
Can it be done? And if so - can it be done by an enthusiastic amateur or do you need to be a tech guru? I should add I don't mind paying if I need to buy a piece of commercial software to achieve this.
GS
Did you even bother to search google for "smartphone backup" ? The very first link that comes up, takes you right to the software you say you need. I apologize for being harsh, but I hate the lack of common sense...
An option
Not sure about the cooked 6.1 Roms. Maybe someone else might know or have tried.
http://www.spritesoftware.com/
I use this and it's well worth it.
if u just mean the saved registry values and what not u can always export the registry so that way if u have to hard reset the phone or if a new amazingly wowlike rom is released and u NEED to flash u can always import the registry values of the chomes and it'll be the way u left it (thats what I do for my myfaves and my programs)
OrganicM said:
Did you even bother to search google for "smartphone backup" ? The very first link that comes up, takes you right to the software you say you need. I apologize for being harsh, but I hate the lack of common sense...
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No problem, and you are entitled to your opinion. however its replies like that which stop people making posts to forums like this. Everyone has to start somewhere, and one man's obvious "common sense" answer is another man's dilemma.
As for using google... yep I could have done that but google links to hundreds of pages, some owned by people trying to sell software which obviously means they won't be objective. Others have methods which could damage a phone and because I don't know the writers how do I know which methods to trust? Ergo I decided to come to site I know, with people whose technical knowhow I trust, and to search the forum and then ask them for advice. To me, that is common sense. Isn't that one of the reasons that places like this exist? So non techheads can ask guys like you for help?
No offence intended and, for what its worth, you are one of the guys whose advice on this forum has helped me countless times. So thank you for that no matter what. Without your posts I'd never have got this far in the first place! I mean that.
As for the other replies... thanks guys. I will look into the registry stuff. And I will certainly check out the software link. If I do find some info on google, I hope you folks will help me pick the best method to use and avoid bad advice.
Thanks again.
GS
Okay the Sprite software is perfect. And now I've checked it out maybe my question was a stupid one. Still, its nice to have a recommendation from an independent source. I've been burnt in the past by bad google advice.
Sorry if I've wasted anyone's time.
GS
I have an AT&T Tilt 2, which I cannot install a ROM on, because it's not mine (company phone).
As shipped, the phone includes all sorts of "free" (demo) software that I don't want. It wasn't installed through .cab files, so there are no uninstall options for it. I would like to manually remove it, though, and I'm wondering if it's safe to just simply remove the folders and registry entries related to this software.
I've moved the information into the wiki here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UninstallingTilt2Software
Whether or not this thread is stickied or linked to somewhere or not is up to a mod, I guess, but I think there's at least SOME other people in the same boat for whom this is useful information.
Because the page is in the wiki, feel free to add to it if you have additional information.
I would love to know the same. I wonder if there is any point during a hard reset where you can soft reset and eliminate at least some of the crap. Most cooked roms or stock roms you can do this but I've never tried with a carrier rom.
Nice, 18M of crap out of ram? I haven't tried yet, my Tilt is, eh, being replaced so I've hard reset it for now.
I just Deleted all of the above and more. I started with 109.82 mb in use and now I have 71.92 mb in use. So far the isn't any ill effects. This works great for me since I wanted the stock ROM without most of the bloatware.
khaytsus said:
Nice, 18M of crap out of ram? I haven't tried yet, my Tilt is, eh, being replaced so I've hard reset it for now.
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Well, storage, not RAM, but yeah, there's a whole lotta space there waiting to be freed up
I have been thinking the same by archiving all the bloat on a single page. The bloatware ware is rediculous at almost 70mb of useless crap. Att considers this to be an advantige over the other touch pros. Maybe we should petition att to release a rom with out all this crap.
has anyone actually archived all the bloatware including the programs themselves, locations in winmo and the registry entries on the Tilt2? I'm upgrading from the Tilt (kaiser) sometime this week and would love be able to delete as much of it as possible, without installing a cooked rom.
I guess when it gets her I could start archiving but it would go quite a bit faster with 3 or 4, or more working on it.
Did anyone notice that some of these apps reside under \Program Files\ as well as \Windows?
e.g. AWBOARDGAMES.EXE, SUDOKU.EXE, etc.
Are we doubling up on these items?
sclui56 said:
Did anyone notice that some of these apps reside under \Program Files\ as well as \Windows?
e.g. AWBOARDGAMES.EXE, SUDOKU.EXE, etc.
Are we doubling up on these items?
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The copies in \Windows are in ROM, they're not taking up our storage space. The initial customization copies them to \Program Files and THAT is where they're taking up room.
Wiki page is now up to 10 apps, comprising 28.4mb worth of storage space. Others, feel free to contribute.
Is there any problem that you encountered by just removing the registry and program files? Can anyone share their experience of doing this?
Thanks,
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The copies in \Windows are in ROM, they're not taking up our storage space. The initial customization copies them to \Program Files and THAT is where they're taking up room.
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Thanks for the info, didn't realize the original was in \windows rather than in a hidden area.
The way I understand it (someone PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong), "cooking" files into the ROM causes them to end up in \Windows. I don't believe there's any way to "cook" files into the ROM and have them end up anywhere else.
Again, someone correct me if I'm wrong about this.
Thanks for starting this thread and identifying the files we can get rid of. When I get home, I hope to have time to sit down and get rid of some of this bloatware.
Could someone put some brief descriptions on things? I could google and do it myself later tonight, just seems like a good thing to have.. Like Mobi4Biz etc.. The games are pretty obvious I guess.
And if anyone identifies any PROBLEMS with removing them. And perhaps when available, links to cabs to replace them, if anyone has such a desire.
I put short descriptions (as I understand them... certainly I would never be caught dead actually using any of this crap...) on the stuff under Applications.
You could certainly cab this stuff up, but there's no real reason to, all you'd need to do if you wanted it back is copy it back out of the ROM files. I think.
Maybe somebody could post a mort script that deletes all of the files specified in the wiki so that after a hard reset or for somebody who hasn't done it yet could just run that instead of locating and deleting all these file manually. I'll do it if I get a chance to get around to it.
Great thread. Thanks to the OP and contributors of the wiki. I can absolutely second the vote to get a good mostly stock AT&T ROM minus the bloatware. It sure was nice to be able to get rid of that on the original Tilt with the well timed soft reset... I'm guessing almost all of the ROM chefs will not find this novel enough nor having enough customization to bother. Sure would be nice.
Hi:
Sorry to be dense, but what are the steps to remove the items that are in the WIKI? Do you just delete the files, and the registry keys? Also, was the OP's original question answered about whether there are any adverse side effects to removing the files.
Thanks!
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Hi:
Sorry to be dense, but what are the steps to remove the items that are in the WIKI? Do you just delete the files, and the registry keys? Also, was the OP's original question answered about whether there are any adverse side effects to removing the files.
Thanks!
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At least one person seems to have removed the items, with no ill effects. I really am skeptical that there would be a problem, as all we're doing is what an uninstall would do.
You are indeed correct, simply remove the files and registry keys listed, and the applications should be completely uninstalled (assuming we've got everything listed!).