Uninstalling the AT&T software - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

I have an AT&T Tilt 2, which I cannot install a ROM on, because it's not mine (company phone).
As shipped, the phone includes all sorts of "free" (demo) software that I don't want. It wasn't installed through .cab files, so there are no uninstall options for it. I would like to manually remove it, though, and I'm wondering if it's safe to just simply remove the folders and registry entries related to this software.
I've moved the information into the wiki here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UninstallingTilt2Software
Whether or not this thread is stickied or linked to somewhere or not is up to a mod, I guess, but I think there's at least SOME other people in the same boat for whom this is useful information.
Because the page is in the wiki, feel free to add to it if you have additional information.

I would love to know the same. I wonder if there is any point during a hard reset where you can soft reset and eliminate at least some of the crap. Most cooked roms or stock roms you can do this but I've never tried with a carrier rom.

Nice, 18M of crap out of ram? I haven't tried yet, my Tilt is, eh, being replaced so I've hard reset it for now.

I just Deleted all of the above and more. I started with 109.82 mb in use and now I have 71.92 mb in use. So far the isn't any ill effects. This works great for me since I wanted the stock ROM without most of the bloatware.

khaytsus said:
Nice, 18M of crap out of ram? I haven't tried yet, my Tilt is, eh, being replaced so I've hard reset it for now.
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Well, storage, not RAM, but yeah, there's a whole lotta space there waiting to be freed up

I have been thinking the same by archiving all the bloat on a single page. The bloatware ware is rediculous at almost 70mb of useless crap. Att considers this to be an advantige over the other touch pros. Maybe we should petition att to release a rom with out all this crap.

has anyone actually archived all the bloatware including the programs themselves, locations in winmo and the registry entries on the Tilt2? I'm upgrading from the Tilt (kaiser) sometime this week and would love be able to delete as much of it as possible, without installing a cooked rom.
I guess when it gets her I could start archiving but it would go quite a bit faster with 3 or 4, or more working on it.

Did anyone notice that some of these apps reside under \Program Files\ as well as \Windows?
e.g. AWBOARDGAMES.EXE, SUDOKU.EXE, etc.
Are we doubling up on these items?

sclui56 said:
Did anyone notice that some of these apps reside under \Program Files\ as well as \Windows?
e.g. AWBOARDGAMES.EXE, SUDOKU.EXE, etc.
Are we doubling up on these items?
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The copies in \Windows are in ROM, they're not taking up our storage space. The initial customization copies them to \Program Files and THAT is where they're taking up room.

Wiki page is now up to 10 apps, comprising 28.4mb worth of storage space. Others, feel free to contribute.

Is there any problem that you encountered by just removing the registry and program files? Can anyone share their experience of doing this?
Thanks,

godefroi said:
The copies in \Windows are in ROM, they're not taking up our storage space. The initial customization copies them to \Program Files and THAT is where they're taking up room.
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Thanks for the info, didn't realize the original was in \windows rather than in a hidden area.

The way I understand it (someone PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong), "cooking" files into the ROM causes them to end up in \Windows. I don't believe there's any way to "cook" files into the ROM and have them end up anywhere else.
Again, someone correct me if I'm wrong about this.

Thanks for starting this thread and identifying the files we can get rid of. When I get home, I hope to have time to sit down and get rid of some of this bloatware.

Could someone put some brief descriptions on things? I could google and do it myself later tonight, just seems like a good thing to have.. Like Mobi4Biz etc.. The games are pretty obvious I guess.
And if anyone identifies any PROBLEMS with removing them. And perhaps when available, links to cabs to replace them, if anyone has such a desire.

I put short descriptions (as I understand them... certainly I would never be caught dead actually using any of this crap...) on the stuff under Applications.
You could certainly cab this stuff up, but there's no real reason to, all you'd need to do if you wanted it back is copy it back out of the ROM files. I think.

Maybe somebody could post a mort script that deletes all of the files specified in the wiki so that after a hard reset or for somebody who hasn't done it yet could just run that instead of locating and deleting all these file manually. I'll do it if I get a chance to get around to it.

Great thread. Thanks to the OP and contributors of the wiki. I can absolutely second the vote to get a good mostly stock AT&T ROM minus the bloatware. It sure was nice to be able to get rid of that on the original Tilt with the well timed soft reset... I'm guessing almost all of the ROM chefs will not find this novel enough nor having enough customization to bother. Sure would be nice.

Hi:
Sorry to be dense, but what are the steps to remove the items that are in the WIKI? Do you just delete the files, and the registry keys? Also, was the OP's original question answered about whether there are any adverse side effects to removing the files.
Thanks!

cincy1020 said:
Hi:
Sorry to be dense, but what are the steps to remove the items that are in the WIKI? Do you just delete the files, and the registry keys? Also, was the OP's original question answered about whether there are any adverse side effects to removing the files.
Thanks!
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At least one person seems to have removed the items, with no ill effects. I really am skeptical that there would be a problem, as all we're doing is what an uninstall would do.
You are indeed correct, simply remove the files and registry keys listed, and the applications should be completely uninstalled (assuming we've got everything listed!).

Related

Huge MsgQueueDataFileMicrosoft

I am using o2 XDAII Mini (i-Mate Jam) and in the Windows folder I found 7 files of MsgQueueDataFileMicrosoft consisting of 2.7mb each!
Are these files necessary?
Also I have about 20 cab files in the Windows directory. Do we actually need them? Can I safely delete them?
Thanks for the input.
Cheers.
it always pay off to use the search
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=10239&highlight=msgqueue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=8165&highlight=msgqueue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=7383&highlight=msgqueue
google have something to say aswell
http://www.google.dk/search?hl=da&q=MsgQueueDataFileMicrosoft&btnG=Google-søgning&meta=
That's not an answer Rudegar, it only shows that many people meet this problem
I m searching a way to get rid of these MsgQueueDataFileMicrosoft files for two days an i found no answer on any forum...
I already had these files two month ago, then i had a crash few days after (hard reset probably because of memory saturation).
So I fell it 's really a bad news that theses files re appeared out of nowhere
They are of no use since the phone and sms worked fine without them...
can anyone give real help on this subject
thanks in advance
as the threads i gave links to should describe unless i posted the wrong links
state then it's not true files it's fake files which hold buffers for the system
their size is wrong and dont take up ram

Saving Contacts when switching to WM6?

Hey,
When I got my new Hermes I had to go through every single one of my contacts and change them from something like "P;John /M" to their regular names..I don't want to do this again, and would like to know how to save these when switching from WM5 to WM6..I tried searching and they were saying you can't just save the database etc etc because of changing formats so I need some help..
I don't have the data package, don't have anything on outlook set-up, but have a computer with activesync working, and also a 2gb card.
What would be the easiest way to save these while upgrading? Is there anywhere to look for step-by-step instructions so I can't screw anything up?
Thanks everyone!
You do use ActiveSync right ?
Also PIM Backup should work.
Yea, am I missing something? What is the best way to back these up so I can make sure everything is alright? Is there a really easy way to back up and restore my photos etc as well? I am just trying to drag them to another folder, and I think this is what I did on my original upgrade, but when I did it then I hadn't changed my contacts or anything else yet so I really am clueless.
I feel like a complete idiot..I have programmed in php/mysql and been on computers my whole life, and now I am asking people for help with the simplest of things.
You might want to take a look at this:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=40&Itemid=26
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299705
http://www.google.com/search?as_q=b...rum.xda-developers.com&as_rights=&safe=images
By - the - way,
I found both of these using this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298893
Sorry,
I actually already looked at that and was just stuck on this point..I still don't know how to save my contacts? The contacts at first came from my SIM with the formatting I talked about. I changed that, and don't know if I upgrade will they default back to the old things? Also how about the ones I saved to the phone and then put a default picture with them?
The thing I was doing was simply clicking the explore icon in activesync and then trying to drag the files in that folder into a new folder(which wasn't actually working at all)..I know I must be missing something simple, and I am sorry for bringing such a newbie question into a experienced users forum.
Thank you, I didn't ever see the google thing. I had searched the forums to no avail though. Thank you for the help and I will do the rest on my own
Oh Yea, Welcome to xda-developers.
When I first joined I also had the most difficult time finding what I was looking for using xda-developers forum search.
I really like that Google Search.
Thanks to Mike the Mod.

Windows\StartUP question

Can anyone tell me which of these entries in my StartUp screen I can do without to speed up my Rom or ? I know some of the entries there are from TouchFlo. Have seen mention of some people deleting poutlook.lnk, and sddaeomon.lnk, not sure whether I can also, and what effect it would have on my system. The PTTStart.exe I think, is somehow there as a result of the SleuthPTTfix to correct#5 Hardware button,, Not sure what TrayIcon_MannerMode.lnk might be either. Running Schaps 4.22 w/cube 1.62
btdwake - BT related - i removed it.
only poutlook and launcher must remain.
all other links are programs you can do without - it was your choice to install them.
TrayIcon_MannerMode.lnk gives the possibility to switch to vibrate if you press and hold the Comm Manager button.
If you don't start it, you will only loose this functionality, nothing more...
You are right PTTstart.exe is installed by PTT fix, I think it can be deleted from the start up without a problem, GPRS monitor is for SPB Grprs moitor I believe. Fldlgchds is for file dialog changer.
Thank you,,you really know your stuff..Will try your suggestions and delete what might not be necessary.
stoker1 said:
Thank you,,you really know your stuff..Will try your suggestions and delete what might not be necessary.
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don't delete... move
make a folder and move everything to it you don't want. If you screw something up, move it back.
Radimus said:
don't delete... move
make a folder and move everything to it you don't want. If you screw something up, move it back.
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Wise words, this way he will not have to learn how to make links to the programs...
Thanks had already decided to do that one at a time, but to delete,, but keep in the recycle bin just in case. I did remove the PTT.exe, to recycle bin, but found out that my button 5 wouldn't work as a result..so obviously the PTTfix (cab)obviously is needed to keep the 5 button working. Couple of work arounds on Schaps Rom that were needed. Not sure about that BT awake file. Probably can do without. Which got me thinking about the bluetooth search plugin on my Today screen which I never have gotten to work ! Can't ever find my bluetooth headset. Oh, but I digress.

Backing Up Everything

Apologies if this appears elsewhere but I have looked without success. If it does then a link to the solution would be great.
Basically I found this site a few weeks ago and since then have been tinkering with my phone. I've tried various roms, added different programs, played about with the settings and so on. Today I have finally got it just how I want it. It is overclocked to run quickly but safely. The today screen is perfect. It contains everything I need including my huge list of contacts. And my theme is spot-on. However usually in life when everything is right something big and hairy appears out of nowhere and dumps on you. Its got to the point where I panic every time I turn it on just in case it crashes and I need to start all over again.
My question therefore is if anyone knows of a utility (or can give detailed instructions) to completely back up the phone. Right down to the user settings, theme and contacts. If possible maybe even to create a rom image of my phone so that if it does ever crash I can reinstall the whole thing from one simple file. I assume this sort of thing must be possible because Kavana and Ricky produce such wonderful roms with various programs, etc pre-installed.
Can it be done? And if so - can it be done by an enthusiastic amateur or do you need to be a tech guru? I should add I don't mind paying if I need to buy a piece of commercial software to achieve this.
GS
Did you even bother to search google for "smartphone backup" ? The very first link that comes up, takes you right to the software you say you need. I apologize for being harsh, but I hate the lack of common sense...
An option
Not sure about the cooked 6.1 Roms. Maybe someone else might know or have tried.
http://www.spritesoftware.com/
I use this and it's well worth it.
if u just mean the saved registry values and what not u can always export the registry so that way if u have to hard reset the phone or if a new amazingly wowlike rom is released and u NEED to flash u can always import the registry values of the chomes and it'll be the way u left it (thats what I do for my myfaves and my programs)
OrganicM said:
Did you even bother to search google for "smartphone backup" ? The very first link that comes up, takes you right to the software you say you need. I apologize for being harsh, but I hate the lack of common sense...
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No problem, and you are entitled to your opinion. however its replies like that which stop people making posts to forums like this. Everyone has to start somewhere, and one man's obvious "common sense" answer is another man's dilemma.
As for using google... yep I could have done that but google links to hundreds of pages, some owned by people trying to sell software which obviously means they won't be objective. Others have methods which could damage a phone and because I don't know the writers how do I know which methods to trust? Ergo I decided to come to site I know, with people whose technical knowhow I trust, and to search the forum and then ask them for advice. To me, that is common sense. Isn't that one of the reasons that places like this exist? So non techheads can ask guys like you for help?
No offence intended and, for what its worth, you are one of the guys whose advice on this forum has helped me countless times. So thank you for that no matter what. Without your posts I'd never have got this far in the first place! I mean that.
As for the other replies... thanks guys. I will look into the registry stuff. And I will certainly check out the software link. If I do find some info on google, I hope you folks will help me pick the best method to use and avoid bad advice.
Thanks again.
GS
Okay the Sprite software is perfect. And now I've checked it out maybe my question was a stupid one. Still, its nice to have a recommendation from an independent source. I've been burnt in the past by bad google advice.
Sorry if I've wasted anyone's time.
GS

Excalibur in 96 DPI: Finally A Semi-Working Solution (Testing Purposes Only)

Hello Guys,
Finally, we have an almost working solution. A member has posted a .cab that changes your DPI from 131 to 96 DPI.
It works ! I have personally tested it myself. However, it still needs work done.
This looks great but it still needs some minor work done. If I do come across any solutions, I will keep you guys posted. If you guys come across anything, please post here so we can figure this one out.
Setup Instructions:
1) Run the WM6.1-131to96dpi.CAB file
2) when it asks for you to restart, do not restart.
3) Click Start, Accessories and run Command Processor, and click the "..." button.
4) Go to Menu, Browse Folder, and select the folder where you put the dpi.ccs file.
5) Now you will see the dpi file, and then go ahead and run it.
6) Wait for it go back to the homescreen and then reboot your phone.
Uninstall Instructions:
1) Start > Settings > Remove Programs
2) Select .CAB (131 to 96 dpi)
3) Click Remove Program
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Issues:
1) Programs in storage card - do not run OR files are missing
2) Rinku's Iconbar is slightly cut off from the bottom
3) Smart tool kits "start" button is misaligned
4) Wallpaper is slightly cut off from the bottom
5) NRG Miniweather - Date & Day are not properly aligned either
6) Pocket Nester Plus not working (maybe due to ROMs stored on storage card)
ATTENTION: PROGRAMS ON SD CARD ARE NOT WORKING, NOR ARE MY IMAGES FOR MYFAVES SHOWING UP. HOWEVER, STORAGE CARD SEEMS TO WORK.I UNINSTALLED IT AND EVERYTHING WORKS FINE.
I am posting screenshots for you guys and I have attached the .zip (which includes .cab and dpi.ccs) for you to download. The experts out there, use this as foundation and see if you can fix it for our phones.
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DISCLAIMER: USE THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK. FOR NOW, THIS IS STRICTLY FOR TESTING PURPOSES ONLY. I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE IF YOU BRICK YOUR DEVICE OR ERASE THE CONTENTS OF YOUR DEVICE.
Credit goes to falleny for posting this .cab and pudgedaddy for instructions on how to fix dpi.ccs - Great Job!
Best Regards,
lukybandit
thanks for your updated screenshot...
try to delete lcd.ttf and plumsip5.dll from your windows folder
if it still have problem, i may ask the guy who make this cab
pudgedaddy said:
One thing i have a question with is how does this behave when using PIE or Opera Mobile or Opera Mini? or other applications such as games ?
Secondly, now un-installable is this app? If it's not something i want to use at this point, am i at the point of no return without hard-reset?
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i can sure this is safe and uninstallable...have a try, if u don't like it...just uninstall it...from your setting menu
aiight it works fine...if u have LCD installed and use medium or larger format in Opera it won't look right. and yea...other than that...seems to be working fine...another note.
dpi.css.zip has to be renamed to dpi.css and then in CeleCMD you have to make it so it can see all files then u can run dpi.css...at least that is what i did. and all works fine.
edit: Or that.
works great...few issues...the messaging icons are a bit messed up...in celetask the 'reboot, shutdown, etc' icons are a bit messed up...hmmm...picture viewer is acting funny....and i cant access folders on my storage card just the storage card itself.
What's the purpose of lowering the dpi?
Please Check Post 1
I have fixed the dpi file by renaming dpi.css to dpi.ccs as well as unzipped it into the ZIP folder in first post. Thank you pudge for the instructions
Now you can follow the instructions and it should work as shown but there are still some minor issues except one being major that is SD programs are not working. I don't know how to fix this. If anyone comes across any fixes, please post here.
another issue...PocketNesterPlus not working (ROMS are stored on storage card so that may be the issue) get :
Error
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can not open or Mapper not supported
Thank you, and thanks to everyone that worked on this. I have been waiting for this for a while.
I was going to install it earlier today but i was getting a corrupt message from the dpi.css; Im glad you updated it very quickly.
If anyone is running Rickywatts vanilla ROM, you can find the command processor in "My Tools". Just a heads up.
Dang it, that sucks cause I got guitar hero three on my SD card... What the heck...
this is a great day thank you for your hard work. I tried this myself but my WM kung-fu is lacking anyone else?
First of all, thanks to all the developers and researchers responsible for making this happen.
Second, I'm getting the following error when I try to Install the cab (I open the cab, the progress bar goes all the way 'till its end the this is displayed):
"Installation was unsuccessful. The program or setting cannot be installed because it does not have sufficient system permissions".
Is anybody else getting the same error and/or knows what should I do to get past it? I really want to try this...
BTW, my excalibur is app unlocked already (surreal networks app used).
Thanks in advance.
Cheers.
I really like the way this looks, but is there anything i can do to make the text a bit bigger?
Im running WM6.1 and the small text is somewhat hard to read.
Sorry guys if this is a repitive question, but what is the purpose of lowering the dpi? I have read post one Lukybandit, but it doesn't say what the benefit is.
Would someone mind posting a few reasons why this mod is desired?
Thanks.
Big_O said:
Sorry guys if this is a repitive question, but what is the purpose of lowering the dpi? I have read post one Lukybandit, but it doesn't say what the benefit is.
Would someone mind posting a few reasons why this mod is desired?
Thanks.
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Although i personally wouldn't recommend installing this at the moment ( issues with the storage card and alignment issues)
basically this works similarly to increasing your screen resolution on your PC.(minus the actual resolution changing) meaning it fits more stuff on your devices display since it shrinks down what is placed on your screen.
Big_O said:
Sorry guys if this is a repitive question, but what is the purpose of lowering the dpi? I have read post one Lukybandit, but it doesn't say what the benefit is.
Would someone mind posting a few reasons why this mod is desired?
Thanks.
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Hey,
Sorry, that post wasn't directed at you.
The only benefit I can see from this is what pudgedaddy said. By lowering the dpi, you are able to fit more things onto the screen and i guess it looks cleaner. Like that of a pc. I hope that answers your question.
That's great. Appreciate the info. Sounds like a fun mod. Will give it a try when you guys say it's ready .
man - great find. this would be so awesome if we can get the storage card isue working. the extra screen real estate is great for contacts, texts, damn near everything.
works as advertised and uninstalls perfectly.
Anyone have any progress with any of the issues? So far, I haven't been able to dig into it.
This thread is especially for people who showed deep interest in this project. I suggest you start testing, post feedback and try and find solutions since this has been made possible for those who wanted this.
Good Luck and Keep Us Posted.
Need help to be able to test...
lukybandit said:
Anyone have any progress with any of the issues? So far, I haven't been able to dig into it.
This thread is especially for people who showed deep interest in this project. I suggest you start testing, post feedback and try and find solutions since this has been made possible for those who wanted this.
Good Luck and Keep Us Posted.
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Hi!
I'm willing to test it, but i can´t get around the problem i posted before:
"I'm getting the following error when I try to Install the cab (I open the cab, the progress bar goes all the way 'till its end the this is displayed):
"Installation was unsuccessful. The program or setting cannot be installed because it does not have sufficient system permissions".
I've already checked my phone's registry for any lock on the policies, but it's effectively unlocked, and other cabs/apps signed and unsigned install without any problem... BTW, I'm using Ricky's wm6.1 v23 ROM...
Can someone give me some help on this? I'd really appreciate it!
Thanks in advance and cheers.

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