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Ok so this is my first post here, so if I drop a clanger, please bear with me.
I've got an HTC Wizard (T Mobile Vario etc) but there is something I'm really missing.
Does anyone know of anybody that makes & sells a wired hands free kit with a built in FM Tuner? I would have preferred a built in FM radio in the phone (yes I know, I should have got an Atom), but I didnt & now I have to live with it.
I know Nokia & Sony Ericsson do external tuners for their phones. It should be easy with an Wizard because the only connections are via jack sockets.
I have turned EBay upside down looking for this type of thing, but all I can find are cheap looking plasticy things from China that run on watch batteries! I was looking for something a bit more up market.
I'm sure I can't be the only person in the world that
wants an FM radio bolt on for their Wizard!?
Or am I???????????????????????????????????????
you can get a fm radio sdio card which would add fm radio to all pda's with a sdio slot
the Wizard uses MiniSD, and as such won't work with any SD I/O cards. Afaik, you can't get an SD I/O > MiniSD converter either?
This is not good news. I too have seen the SDIO cards. I think all they do is bleed power from the device, rateher than being truely integrated. But never seen a mini SD devive
Anyone seen anything combined into a headset?????
Plenty of radios that are basically stuck on a plug and two earbuds;
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0002EQXFK.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
But I don't know if they work together with the Wizard for e.g. voice commands (which I personally don't use, so doesn't matter to me)
Yes I am aware of the type of radio that you mention. As I said in my original post "I know Nokia & Sony Ericsson do external tuners for their phones". Problem is they dont have the correct plug to use with a wizard (ie 4 conector, 2.5mm jack plug) which is what you need to listen to MP3 music (for example) then maybe switch to a phone call & then listen to the radio all using the same headset. The Motorola one is close, but the pins on the jack plug are not correct Something like this would be great, ie a headset (with microphone) + a radio. Am I asking for too much?????
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I guess you are
Could take some cutters and a soldering iron and work some magic with that :>
Hi, have a look on the following link, it is the one i am using.
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=111492
N I C E !
It almost fits the bill. If only it could use the bluetooth connection to use the MP3 player on your phone (in stereo of course). I think I need one of these N*k*a (sorry I nearly swore) & A2DP. Assuming the T Mobile ROM ever turns up will A2DP work on a wizard?
Why is it that the BIG 3 phone companies look after their phones with good accessories? Come on HTC, your phones are great, but they need to branch out & support the phone range with some add on goodies.
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NCC-1701 said:
This is not good news. I too have seen the SDIO cards. I think all they do is bleed power from the device, rateher than being truely integrated. But never seen a mini SD devive
Anyone seen anything combined into a headset?????
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You're right about that. I had an SDIO WiFi card for my magician. Whereas the battery would normally last a few days, it would be dead within an hour with the WiFi card in.
Hello any news on this yet?
Hi,
I have been searching around for something like this too. Unfortunately no luck.
Any of you guys find something interesting?
rohseq
Sadly not. I too am still searching the internet for something, but so far nothing that matches the criteria has popped up. Its becoming more & more annoying :x Every time I see something its a specific product for one of the big phone manufacturers. Clearly they put a value on selling accessories (presumably for a good profit) to enhance their phones, whereas most Windows powered phone owners are left to fend for themselves with stuff off fleabay.
Makes me wonder if its worth going down this route again So far I have had an original SPV, E200, C500, C550 & now a Vario (Wizard). Next time around I might go back to the big "N" & enjoy the benefits of buying something from a fully supported product range.
Ive seen many threads with questions like these but none of them have answered the question:
Is it possible and will it be done in the future?
Thanks
Ummm, no. The phone does not have a transmitter in it. Just an fm receiver, which doesnt transmit.
it is technically able to transmit but it would need to have that software written for it, the likes of which its taking to get 4g on cm
It needs power going to the antenna in order to transmit, as far as I know it was not designed to do that.
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NewZJ said:
it is technically able to transmit but it would need to have that software written for it, the likes of which its taking to get 4g on cm
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Umm, no. Again, there is no TRANSMITTER in the phone. If there was one, I'm sure sprint would have used it, and touted it as a feature.
the FM chip manufacturer spec sheet lists it as capable of transmitter but htc did not include the firmware for it to work, they also did not include an antenna for it to work (requiring a cable plugged in to receive signal as well) this was discussed months ago in detail, if you search deep in q/a or dev you can find it
found this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=693253 it has links to some others
Well, this is turning out just like the other threads, some say yes, some say no.
Is there a developer that thinks that an FM Transmitter is possible?
gokuman56 said:
Well, this is turning out just like the other threads, some say yes, some say no.
Is there a developer that thinks that an FM Transmitter is possible?
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some of the same chips for BT WIFI are being used as in the ipod touch and those are capable of transmiting as well as receiving so in theory it should work on the evo....then again SOFTWARE
lui22 said:
some of the same chips for BT WIFI are being used as in the ipod touch and those are capable of transmiting as well as receiving so in theory it should work on the evo....then again SOFTWARE
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bluetooth and wifi are both supposed to send and receive , not just receive...
i found this tutorial but it looks pretty complicated.
i think im going to try it today.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725870
Well, good luck, please tell me if you get the transmitter to work.
Thanks
i cannot find it in system features
No, there is no FM radio
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Actually there is a chip (at least in the Verizon version) that has an FM radio in it, but there is no antenna and no low level software to run it.
The Galaxy Nexus has a Broadcom BCM4330 which features an FM receiver and transmitter.
It seems there's no antenna wired nor driver access, though.
Tune-In Radio (free app on the market) had the local stations I used the FM antenna on my old phone to listen to, so I haven't missed it on GNex yet, perhaps that is an option for you.
The Nexus One had a Broadcomm BCM4329 and someone figured out how to get FM. If i remember correctly, it needed headphones plugged in because it used the wire as an antenna. It was in Cyanogen roms, and probably others as well. So, hang on, surely the chips aren't that different and surely someone will get it working sooner or later.
OpusX11 said:
Tune-In Radio (free app on the market) had the local stations I used the FM antenna on my old phone to listen to, so I haven't missed it on GNex yet, perhaps that is an option for you.
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I still miss true FM. I use Tune-In daily, but the cons are: 1) data usage 2) any broadcast of protected content, i.e., sporting events, are typically not streamed.
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So, hang on, surely the chips aren't that different and surely someone will get it working sooner or later.
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unfortunately, there is fm radio chip in GN, but it is not connected
see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1314191&page=6 for more details
As you may know the Galaxy Nexus sports a Broadcom BCM4330 which is capable of Bluetooth, Wifi, and FM tuning and transmitting. I hereby propose a bounty for a hardware/software modder to make these functionalities work. As of now the need for an internal antenna is a major hurdle for some people. I personally don't mind opening up my device and installing one as long as there are clear instructions on how to do so.
I am willing to donate $400 USD to a dev that can get either transmitting or receiving working
I think it is a neat idea.Good luck..I'm not the developer.
Does FM work with headphones?
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Your wanting to do this for transmitting purposes and not so you can listen to fm radio right? Because you can use TuneIn Radio for FM.
I also would like to see this because of several reasons. First, streaming apps need internet (obviously) and I don't have data. I run on prepaid and only use wifi at home and school to save money (I'm a student). Second, FM radio was the one thing that one of my friends required for a new phone. Obviously I want him to get the great Galaxy Nexus.
If anyone would be able to get this working with either an internal antenna, or (more ideally) using the headphone wires as an antenna, that would be great.
Hi,
Sorry if I did not clearly understand all,but maybe take a look at this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059296&highlight=fmradio
But it seems it's not possible:
These devices will likely never be able to support FM with Spirit or any FM app:
- Google/Samsung Galaxy Nexus
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@DroidMahn:if you talk about the FM radio (listening).
That would definitely be awesome. I don't have an Aux port or a tape player in my car so I always wanted to be able to just tune my radio to a channel and hear music from it without plugging my phone into anything.
clarified my post xD
Very interesting, hopefully someone gets this working.
yami951 said:
That would definitely be awesome. I don't have an Aux port or a tape player in my car so I always wanted to be able to just tune my radio to a channel and hear music from it without plugging my phone into anything.
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I'm in the exact same boat...erm, crappy car. Badass phone, POS car.
The stock head unit is integrated with dashboard so its not easy to swap a new one.
Also willing to open up my Gnex and solder to test an antenna, just need an EE to tell me which leads....
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As you may know the Galaxy Nexus sports a Broadcom BCM4330 which is capable of Bluetooth, Wifi, and FM tuning and transmitting. I hereby propose a bounty for a hardware/software modder to make these functionalities work. As of now the need for an internal antenna is a major hurdle for some people. I personally don't mind opening up my device and installing one as long as there are clear instructions on how to do so.
I am willing to donate $400 USD to a dev that can get either transmitting or receiving working
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Wouldn't make more sense to buy a bluetooth FM headphone and an FM transmitter?
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Ericsson...1DCM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1337776322&sr=8-2
http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Unive...L2/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1337776603&sr=8-13
Or something that have both functions like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Monster-Radio...OO/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1337776603&sr=8-11
$400?! You ARE such a generous gentleman.
I really hope this going to happen. I hate to use radio apps to listen to music due to my 2GB Highspeed Cap. FM receiver/transmitter feature is needed.
I'll throw in $40 to make it happen. I just want as many features as possible
I brought a wireless FM Transmitter for £10...I don't get it :/ All seems hassle for a few quid and a bit of shopping...
Lol
Ill sell you my droid x2 that has fm radio working in it for $400
From my nexus tappin the talk
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I've bought an FM-sender that plugs into the cigarette-lighter-output in the car, which connects to the phone via 3.5mm jack. The sender also has output for USB, which lets me charge the phone at the same time. I payed 150 NOK for that, which is about $30. Should be something like that in your american Wallmarts as well!
The phone is capale of transmission on the fm band by any developer so inclined to create it. This is the very essence of nexus class development. If your solution to the bounty on this thread is to suggest buying external hardware , you are really missing the point .
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android01 said:
The phone is capale of transmission on the fm band by any developer so inclined to create it. This is the very essence of nexus class development. If your solution to the bounty on this thread is to suggest buying external hardware , you are really missing the point .
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Don't think its the bounty anyone is interested in, just why the bother and hassle when external solutions exist at a fraction of the price? Very capable ones at that.
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killyouridols said:
Don't think its the bounty anyone is interested in, just why the bother and hassle when external solutions exist at a fraction of the price? Very capable ones at that.
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But the whole point of the thread is to unlock the full capability of the hardware we own.
Not to buy another product to do a job that in theory our phone can already do.
I have a feeling its a big job and next to near impossible to accomplish but I'm willing to throw some money into the pot if a dev gets this done.
Just to prove it can be done at least.
This kind of thing is why I love android and nexus, doing something that isn't supposed to be done.
nodstuff said:
But the whole point of the thread is to unlock the full capability of the hardware we own.
Not to buy another product to do a job that in theory our phone can already do.
I have a feeling its a big job and next to near impossible to accomplish but I'm willing to throw some money into the pot if a dev gets this done.
Just to prove it can be done at least.
This kind of thing is why I love android and nexus, doing something that isn't supposed to be done.
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Don't get me wrong, I love seeing happen that, by rights, shouldn't. That's the joy of Android. All I'm questioning and wondering, and not in a bad way just a quizical way, I'm assuming the op is throwing in $400 to encourage the development of the FM transmitter. If so, why a relatively large amount for a device that can be brought for a fraction of the price? Is there really a $390 benefit to have it built in?
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Can someone test this app and see if it works? I saw someone mention the FM Radio app in the U.S. GS3 is missing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059296
You will need to plug in a pair of headphones to see if it works.
Our kernel indicates the CDMA S3 implements a BCM4334 much like its international brethren. This chip provides:
-2.4ghz and 5ghz WiFi a/b/g/n
-BT 4.0 + High Speed
-WiFi Display
-WiFi Direct
-FM Radio
jnadke said:
Can someone test this app and see if it works? I saw someone mention the FM Radio app in the U.S. GS3 is missing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059296
You will need to plug in a pair of headphones to see if it works.
Our kernel indicates the CDMA S3 implements a BCM4334 much like its international brethren. This chip provides:
-2.4ghz and 5ghz WiFi a/b/g/n
-BT 4.0 + High Speed
-WiFi Display
-WiFi Direct
-FM Radio
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Very interesting, I won't have the chance to test this soon but it sounds promising! I hope someone can take the initiative and report back
elfhater said:
Very interesting, I won't have the chance to test this soon but it sounds promising! I hope someone can take the initiative and report back
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Can someone with S III please try using Spirit FM Unlocked, it is an app that enables FM radio on some handsets where the carrier disabled it or did not include a radio app even though the hardware is there. As pointed out, headphones need to be plugged in as the antenna. If Spirit FM does not work yet...Mike the dev might be able to make it work, provided S III has an FM radio inside. That dev works miracles so if he can enable FM on SIII on VZW I'll def. buy the Spirit FM radio app.
Didn't work for me
I downloaded the 'Sirint FM Unlocked Light' and it didn't seem to work on my rooted S3 16gb phone. It may take some settings changes but I didn't have a clue in the settings what to chance.
yornotelppa said:
I downloaded the 'Sirint FM Unlocked Light' and it didn't seem to work on my rooted S3 16gb phone. It may take some settings changes but I didn't have a clue in the settings what to chance.
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Try the settings changes as the page describes. Primarily the Audio Output setting.
A "No Audio" problem is common. If the app seems to tune, show signal strength and/or show RDS data, but no audio is heard, try configuring the Audio Method. Tune to a strong station and select each Audio Method in sequence until sound is heard. If no method works, your device is likely not yet supported, sorry...
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I'm really hoping this can work. I'll be pissed if Samsung removed FM Radio for the 2nd time (Spring SGS1 had no FM Radio while international did).
jnadke said:
Try the settings changes as the page describes. Primarily the Audio Output setting.
I'm really hoping this can work. I'll be pissed if Samsung removed FM Radio for the 2nd time (Spring SGS1 had no FM Radio while international did).
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Didn't get any signal readings or RDS data. Sorry!
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Didn't get any signal readings or RDS data. Sorry!
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I tried the setting "Samsung Broadcom" and got static and a negative signal reading lol. Any idea on what that means, if anything?
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I tried the setting "Samsung Broadcom" and got static and a negative signal reading lol. Any idea on what that means, if anything?
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Broadcom should be the right setting (sorry, BCM4334 is a Broadcom chip, should have mentioned that).
Did you try tuning it to a station in your area?
Negative is probably normal, I'd imagine that's measuring power in db. Negative just means below 1 Watt. Extremely negative (-120) means just noise (thermal noise). But noise is a good sign! I hope.
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I tried the setting "Samsung Broadcom" and got static and a negative signal reading lol. Any idea on what that means, if anything?
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Don't know. But if you read the dev Mike's thread on Spirit FM you will see that if ANYONE can get FM working, it is him. He single-handedly reverse engineers the drivers for each handset. LOL he must have a lot of phones. Once he has an S III... he will let us know..
"Help us Obi Mike Kenobi.. you are our only hope.."
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Broadcom should be the right setting (sorry, BCM4334 is a Broadcom chip, should have mentioned that).
Did you try tuning it to a station in your area?
Negative is probably normal, I'd imagine that's measuring power in db. Negative just means below 1 Watt. Extremely negative (-120) means just noise (thermal noise). But noise is a good sign! I hope.
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Yeah, none of the stations worked. I thought negative was odd because the Youtube video I saw of the app working did not have negative numbers.
EDIT: My Bluetooth actually turns on by itself when I change it to "Samsung Broadcom." Could that have to do with Bluetooth being on the same chip?
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Yeah, none of the stations worked. I thought negative was odd because the Youtube video I saw of the app working did not have negative numbers.
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Darn.
Yeah, I don't have the device, so I don't know what the app is normally supposed to do.
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EDIT: My Bluetooth actually turns on by itself when I change it to "Samsung Broadcom." Could that have to do with Bluetooth being on the same chip?
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Yeah.
I wouldn't be surprised if the App author would have to change some things for it to work. It's probable he's interacting with the IO layer directly, in which case the IOMap could, and likely would, have changed with the different architecture.
The key thing I wanted to determine is if the BCM4334 FM Radio circuitry is even hooked up in hardware. With the move from Exynos -> Snapdragon, the board design would have changed too.
My fear is they didn't connect it up for whatever reason.
So do any phones on Verizon, Sprint or TMobile have FM tuners? This is probably disabled by the carriers if they don't. Seems like US Cellular doesn't care as a girl I work with has an HTC phone through them with FM radio. Maybe the US Cellular version of the SGS3 will have it and developers can find a way to port it from there if it's not disabled in the hardware.
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So do any phones on Verizon, Sprint or TMobile have FM tuners? This is probably disabled by the carriers if they don't. Seems like US Cellular doesn't care as a girl I work with has an HTC phone through them with FM radio. Maybe the US Cellular version of the SGS3 will have it and developers can find a way to port it from there if it's not disabled in the hardware.
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The EVO LTE has FM Radio and it works. All the HTC phones on Sprint have had FM Radio (my g/f has an Evo Design 4G).
I am also interested in keeping this thread alive. Hope the developer of Spirit fm will look at this. Here is a link to tear down of Tmobile version
http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/...?seq=57&tag=content;siu-container#photopaging
rakeshchn said:
I am also interested in keeping this thread alive. Hope the developer of Spirit fm will look at this. Here is a link to tear down of Tmobile version
http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/...?seq=57&tag=content;siu-container#photopaging
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Odd, none of those pictures show a BCM4334. Or any other WiFi chip.
I know the 8960 doesn't have it built in....
Does this device have a Qualcomm combination chip for FM/BT/WiFi ?
Or is it a Broadcom BCM4330/4334 ?
Someone sent me a debug log from an unrooted SPH-L710 and I see evidence of Qualcomm FM, but there are Broadcom files too.
The Spirit FM June 28 test release link and info are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27996724&postcount=3894
It's now working on my AT&T HTC OneX(L) which has the same Qualcomm SOC as the US S3, and which has Qualcomm FM.
If you are rooted, please try the June 28 test and send me debug logs with Menu->Test->Email->Logs.
Thanks !
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Yes, I'm REALLY, REALLY hoping that Samsung was strong enough now to tell the carriers:
"No, we're not going to remove FM this time. Don't provide an app if you want, but the FM hardware stays, and there are only 2 HW variants."
rooted sprint didnt work, logs sent
ToiletDuck555 said:
rooted sprint didnt work, logs sent
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Thanks !
I rarely look at the SOCs too closely, but it appears the MSM8960 has integrated "digital" Bluetooth and FM, AFAICT. An external WCN3660 is sometimes used for analog.
Otherwise, if the antenna pins are hooked up, we may have FM. Audio should be digital and internal. Heck the Qualcomm chips allegedly support an "internal antenna", but not sure if that's on the chip.
The most important FM file on the OneX LTE version is the driver:
/system/lib/modules/radio-iris-transport.ko
It's not on your ROM. Kernel differences might prevent just using a file from another device.
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Thanks !
I rarely look at the SOCs too closely, but it appears the MSM8960 has integrated "digital" Bluetooth and FM, AFAICT. An external WCN3660 is sometimes used for analog.
Otherwise, if the antenna pins are hooked up, we may have FM. Audio should be digital and internal. Heck the Qualcomm chips allegedly support an "internal antenna", but not sure if that's on the chip.
The most important FM file on the OneX LTE version is the driver:
/system/lib/modules/radio-iris-transport.ko
It's not on your ROM. Kernel differences might prevent just using a file from another device.
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When I tested the June 28th release it said "Fm: QC OEM," something I had not seen on previous releases (I'm guessing "QC" means Qualcomm).