i cannot find it in system features
No, there is no FM radio
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Actually there is a chip (at least in the Verizon version) that has an FM radio in it, but there is no antenna and no low level software to run it.
The Galaxy Nexus has a Broadcom BCM4330 which features an FM receiver and transmitter.
It seems there's no antenna wired nor driver access, though.
Tune-In Radio (free app on the market) had the local stations I used the FM antenna on my old phone to listen to, so I haven't missed it on GNex yet, perhaps that is an option for you.
The Nexus One had a Broadcomm BCM4329 and someone figured out how to get FM. If i remember correctly, it needed headphones plugged in because it used the wire as an antenna. It was in Cyanogen roms, and probably others as well. So, hang on, surely the chips aren't that different and surely someone will get it working sooner or later.
OpusX11 said:
Tune-In Radio (free app on the market) had the local stations I used the FM antenna on my old phone to listen to, so I haven't missed it on GNex yet, perhaps that is an option for you.
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I still miss true FM. I use Tune-In daily, but the cons are: 1) data usage 2) any broadcast of protected content, i.e., sporting events, are typically not streamed.
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So, hang on, surely the chips aren't that different and surely someone will get it working sooner or later.
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unfortunately, there is fm radio chip in GN, but it is not connected
see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1314191&page=6 for more details
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From what Ive read the G2 has FM Radio capability. Any way to get the FM radio APK off of the Vision rom for use on G2??
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I'm fairly sure it does not have an FM tuner.
You could always use an app like Radio Time that can live stream any FM station on the globe practically.
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According to http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2596&view=1&c=htc_desire_z_htc_vision :
PDADB.net said:
Multimedia;Broadcast
Analog;Radio: FM radio (87.5-108MHz) with RDS radio reciever
Proprietary headset as antenna
Digital:Media:Broadcast: Not supported
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So if it is even possible, it will need a proprietary headset adapter thing as an antenna for the FM radio. I'm not even sure THAT info is correct. However, HTC's site makes no mention of a radio.
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So if it is even possible, it will need a proprietary headset adapter thing as an antenna for the FM radio. makes no mention of a radio.
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heck even apples ipod nano can listen to fm with ANY pair of headphones. its required since nano doesn't have a built in antenna. Fm radio isn't listed under the G2's chip specs though same went for the N1's. though somehow the N1 got radio. maybe the same thing will happen to the G2. once we get root.
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According to http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2596&view=1&c=htc_desire_z_htc_vision
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That site also says the G2 has a 2Gb ROM, which has already been disproved.
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According to http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2596&view=1&c=htc_desire_z_htc_vision :
So if it is even possible, it will need a proprietary headset adapter thing as an antenna for the FM radio. I'm not even sure THAT info is correct. However, HTC's site makes no mention of a radio.
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That site also says the G2 has a 2Gb ROM, which has already been disproved.
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They pulled up the page for the Desire Z, here is the compare page for the Desire Z & G2. Granted that it still states that the G2 has a FM radio, the ROM capacity is at least correct.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=2596&id2=2476
TuneIn Radio app has almost all my local stations. I never heard anything about a FM tuner on the G2
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I just discovered TuneIn today earlier also. It's decent. Definitely decent.
Ive seen many threads with questions like these but none of them have answered the question:
Is it possible and will it be done in the future?
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Ummm, no. The phone does not have a transmitter in it. Just an fm receiver, which doesnt transmit.
it is technically able to transmit but it would need to have that software written for it, the likes of which its taking to get 4g on cm
It needs power going to the antenna in order to transmit, as far as I know it was not designed to do that.
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NewZJ said:
it is technically able to transmit but it would need to have that software written for it, the likes of which its taking to get 4g on cm
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Umm, no. Again, there is no TRANSMITTER in the phone. If there was one, I'm sure sprint would have used it, and touted it as a feature.
the FM chip manufacturer spec sheet lists it as capable of transmitter but htc did not include the firmware for it to work, they also did not include an antenna for it to work (requiring a cable plugged in to receive signal as well) this was discussed months ago in detail, if you search deep in q/a or dev you can find it
found this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=693253 it has links to some others
Well, this is turning out just like the other threads, some say yes, some say no.
Is there a developer that thinks that an FM Transmitter is possible?
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Well, this is turning out just like the other threads, some say yes, some say no.
Is there a developer that thinks that an FM Transmitter is possible?
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some of the same chips for BT WIFI are being used as in the ipod touch and those are capable of transmiting as well as receiving so in theory it should work on the evo....then again SOFTWARE
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some of the same chips for BT WIFI are being used as in the ipod touch and those are capable of transmiting as well as receiving so in theory it should work on the evo....then again SOFTWARE
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bluetooth and wifi are both supposed to send and receive , not just receive...
i found this tutorial but it looks pretty complicated.
i think im going to try it today.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725870
Well, good luck, please tell me if you get the transmitter to work.
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Can someone test this app and see if it works? I saw someone mention the FM Radio app in the U.S. GS3 is missing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059296
You will need to plug in a pair of headphones to see if it works.
Our kernel indicates the CDMA S3 implements a BCM4334 much like its international brethren. This chip provides:
-2.4ghz and 5ghz WiFi a/b/g/n
-BT 4.0 + High Speed
-WiFi Display
-WiFi Direct
-FM Radio
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Can someone test this app and see if it works? I saw someone mention the FM Radio app in the U.S. GS3 is missing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059296
You will need to plug in a pair of headphones to see if it works.
Our kernel indicates the CDMA S3 implements a BCM4334 much like its international brethren. This chip provides:
-2.4ghz and 5ghz WiFi a/b/g/n
-BT 4.0 + High Speed
-WiFi Display
-WiFi Direct
-FM Radio
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Very interesting, I won't have the chance to test this soon but it sounds promising! I hope someone can take the initiative and report back
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Very interesting, I won't have the chance to test this soon but it sounds promising! I hope someone can take the initiative and report back
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Can someone with S III please try using Spirit FM Unlocked, it is an app that enables FM radio on some handsets where the carrier disabled it or did not include a radio app even though the hardware is there. As pointed out, headphones need to be plugged in as the antenna. If Spirit FM does not work yet...Mike the dev might be able to make it work, provided S III has an FM radio inside. That dev works miracles so if he can enable FM on SIII on VZW I'll def. buy the Spirit FM radio app.
Didn't work for me
I downloaded the 'Sirint FM Unlocked Light' and it didn't seem to work on my rooted S3 16gb phone. It may take some settings changes but I didn't have a clue in the settings what to chance.
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I downloaded the 'Sirint FM Unlocked Light' and it didn't seem to work on my rooted S3 16gb phone. It may take some settings changes but I didn't have a clue in the settings what to chance.
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Try the settings changes as the page describes. Primarily the Audio Output setting.
A "No Audio" problem is common. If the app seems to tune, show signal strength and/or show RDS data, but no audio is heard, try configuring the Audio Method. Tune to a strong station and select each Audio Method in sequence until sound is heard. If no method works, your device is likely not yet supported, sorry...
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I'm really hoping this can work. I'll be pissed if Samsung removed FM Radio for the 2nd time (Spring SGS1 had no FM Radio while international did).
jnadke said:
Try the settings changes as the page describes. Primarily the Audio Output setting.
I'm really hoping this can work. I'll be pissed if Samsung removed FM Radio for the 2nd time (Spring SGS1 had no FM Radio while international did).
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Didn't get any signal readings or RDS data. Sorry!
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Didn't get any signal readings or RDS data. Sorry!
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I tried the setting "Samsung Broadcom" and got static and a negative signal reading lol. Any idea on what that means, if anything?
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I tried the setting "Samsung Broadcom" and got static and a negative signal reading lol. Any idea on what that means, if anything?
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Broadcom should be the right setting (sorry, BCM4334 is a Broadcom chip, should have mentioned that).
Did you try tuning it to a station in your area?
Negative is probably normal, I'd imagine that's measuring power in db. Negative just means below 1 Watt. Extremely negative (-120) means just noise (thermal noise). But noise is a good sign! I hope.
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I tried the setting "Samsung Broadcom" and got static and a negative signal reading lol. Any idea on what that means, if anything?
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Don't know. But if you read the dev Mike's thread on Spirit FM you will see that if ANYONE can get FM working, it is him. He single-handedly reverse engineers the drivers for each handset. LOL he must have a lot of phones. Once he has an S III... he will let us know..
"Help us Obi Mike Kenobi.. you are our only hope.."
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Broadcom should be the right setting (sorry, BCM4334 is a Broadcom chip, should have mentioned that).
Did you try tuning it to a station in your area?
Negative is probably normal, I'd imagine that's measuring power in db. Negative just means below 1 Watt. Extremely negative (-120) means just noise (thermal noise). But noise is a good sign! I hope.
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Yeah, none of the stations worked. I thought negative was odd because the Youtube video I saw of the app working did not have negative numbers.
EDIT: My Bluetooth actually turns on by itself when I change it to "Samsung Broadcom." Could that have to do with Bluetooth being on the same chip?
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Yeah, none of the stations worked. I thought negative was odd because the Youtube video I saw of the app working did not have negative numbers.
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Darn.
Yeah, I don't have the device, so I don't know what the app is normally supposed to do.
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EDIT: My Bluetooth actually turns on by itself when I change it to "Samsung Broadcom." Could that have to do with Bluetooth being on the same chip?
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Yeah.
I wouldn't be surprised if the App author would have to change some things for it to work. It's probable he's interacting with the IO layer directly, in which case the IOMap could, and likely would, have changed with the different architecture.
The key thing I wanted to determine is if the BCM4334 FM Radio circuitry is even hooked up in hardware. With the move from Exynos -> Snapdragon, the board design would have changed too.
My fear is they didn't connect it up for whatever reason.
So do any phones on Verizon, Sprint or TMobile have FM tuners? This is probably disabled by the carriers if they don't. Seems like US Cellular doesn't care as a girl I work with has an HTC phone through them with FM radio. Maybe the US Cellular version of the SGS3 will have it and developers can find a way to port it from there if it's not disabled in the hardware.
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So do any phones on Verizon, Sprint or TMobile have FM tuners? This is probably disabled by the carriers if they don't. Seems like US Cellular doesn't care as a girl I work with has an HTC phone through them with FM radio. Maybe the US Cellular version of the SGS3 will have it and developers can find a way to port it from there if it's not disabled in the hardware.
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The EVO LTE has FM Radio and it works. All the HTC phones on Sprint have had FM Radio (my g/f has an Evo Design 4G).
I am also interested in keeping this thread alive. Hope the developer of Spirit fm will look at this. Here is a link to tear down of Tmobile version
http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/...?seq=57&tag=content;siu-container#photopaging
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I am also interested in keeping this thread alive. Hope the developer of Spirit fm will look at this. Here is a link to tear down of Tmobile version
http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/...?seq=57&tag=content;siu-container#photopaging
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Odd, none of those pictures show a BCM4334. Or any other WiFi chip.
I know the 8960 doesn't have it built in....
Does this device have a Qualcomm combination chip for FM/BT/WiFi ?
Or is it a Broadcom BCM4330/4334 ?
Someone sent me a debug log from an unrooted SPH-L710 and I see evidence of Qualcomm FM, but there are Broadcom files too.
The Spirit FM June 28 test release link and info are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27996724&postcount=3894
It's now working on my AT&T HTC OneX(L) which has the same Qualcomm SOC as the US S3, and which has Qualcomm FM.
If you are rooted, please try the June 28 test and send me debug logs with Menu->Test->Email->Logs.
Thanks !
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Yes, I'm REALLY, REALLY hoping that Samsung was strong enough now to tell the carriers:
"No, we're not going to remove FM this time. Don't provide an app if you want, but the FM hardware stays, and there are only 2 HW variants."
rooted sprint didnt work, logs sent
ToiletDuck555 said:
rooted sprint didnt work, logs sent
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Thanks !
I rarely look at the SOCs too closely, but it appears the MSM8960 has integrated "digital" Bluetooth and FM, AFAICT. An external WCN3660 is sometimes used for analog.
Otherwise, if the antenna pins are hooked up, we may have FM. Audio should be digital and internal. Heck the Qualcomm chips allegedly support an "internal antenna", but not sure if that's on the chip.
The most important FM file on the OneX LTE version is the driver:
/system/lib/modules/radio-iris-transport.ko
It's not on your ROM. Kernel differences might prevent just using a file from another device.
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I rarely look at the SOCs too closely, but it appears the MSM8960 has integrated "digital" Bluetooth and FM, AFAICT. An external WCN3660 is sometimes used for analog.
Otherwise, if the antenna pins are hooked up, we may have FM. Audio should be digital and internal. Heck the Qualcomm chips allegedly support an "internal antenna", but not sure if that's on the chip.
The most important FM file on the OneX LTE version is the driver:
/system/lib/modules/radio-iris-transport.ko
It's not on your ROM. Kernel differences might prevent just using a file from another device.
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When I tested the June 28th release it said "Fm: QC OEM," something I had not seen on previous releases (I'm guessing "QC" means Qualcomm).
Does anyone know how to enable the FM radio inside the G Pro (assuming ATT kept it inside). I know from past smart phones that FM radio ability can lay dormant inside the handset until software enables it. This was the case with a windows phone recently. I do know that the international model had the FM radio. I need to know if ATT removed the FM chip or disabled it with software. I hope some one has root ability to offer some type of FM radio on this device (or using the Bluetooth radio as FM). Thanks for any help!!!!
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Does anyone know how to enable the FM radio inside the G Pro (assuming ATT kept it inside). I know from past smart phones that FM radio ability can lay dormant inside the handset until software enables it. This was the case with a windows phone recently. I do know that the international model had the FM radio. I need to know if ATT removed the FM chip or disabled it with software. I hope some one has root ability to offer some type of FM radio on this device (or using the Bluetooth radio as FM). Thanks for any help!!!!
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Root your device and install Spirit FM Radio App
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GREAT...
Thanks a million!!!!!
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Thanks a million!!!!!
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So, did it work? Does the AT&T version of OG Pro really have a FM radio?
Sharpshooterrr said:
So, did it work? Does the AT&T version of OG Pro really have a FM radio?
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There goes AT&T's chance of bundling a Subscription-based Radio App in our first update!
Gotta buy phone first.....
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So, did it work? Does the AT&T version of OG Pro really have a FM radio?
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I have not tried yet. I was just trying to figure out everything with the phone first.
I tried it but it said that no fm radio was found... could be that I didn't have it set up right though.
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I tried it but it said that no fm radio was found... could be that I didn't have it set up right though.
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Default settings are usually best.
It's more likely to work if you're rooted though.
If there is no FM driver in the kernel, an alternate kernel may help.
onetongwa said:
Does anyone know how to enable the FM radio inside the G Pro (assuming ATT kept it inside). I know from past smart phones that FM radio ability can lay dormant inside the handset until software enables it. This was the case with a windows phone recently. I do know that the international model had the FM radio. I need to know if ATT removed the FM chip or disabled it with software. I hope some one has root ability to offer some type of FM radio on this device (or using the Bluetooth radio as FM). Thanks for any help!!!!
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The device specifications state that there is no radio chip in the LG Optimus G Pro
Paradolia said:
The device specifications state that there is no radio chip in the LG Optimus G Pro
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All recent modern phones have FM tuners built in to them. They can utilize the headphones as a receiver. The problem is AT&T has disable the tuner so we cannot use it without a special driver. @nerdyblonde what do you think could you guys pack this into Blisspop?
Spirit fm maker have told that chip is disabled by hardware electric bond.
Not possible via software to enable it
NaveenKumarXDA said:
Spirit fm maker have told that chip is disabled by hardware electric bond.
Not possible via software to enable it
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Can we physically hardware mod it to enable it?
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All recent modern phones have FM tuners built in to them. They can utilize the headphones as a receiver. The problem is AT&T has disable the tuner so we cannot use it without a special driver. @nerdyblonde what do you think could you guys pack this into Blisspop?
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Any way to retrieve the necessary programming?
If the FM antenna pin is grounded, as it is in most "Western world" phones now, nothing short of an extremely expensive and/or "heroic act" will fix it.
Do you know, or can you afford to hire, someone with access to thousands of dollars worth of micro-soldering and multi-layer PCB reworking equipment. And the skills to use them ?
In 4 1/2 years devoted almost exclusively to FM radio on Android, I have only ever heard of 1 successful case: A Chinese Android tablet that had an easily accessible antenna jumper. He used my app but we could never enable audio, which can be another huge hurdle.
Vast majority of devices use a PCB ground trace, that can be thick and very difficult to break. Then you'd attach a wire to a 75 cm or more long antenna/headset cable. Never mind the few coils or caps etc that need to be installed too.
TL;DR: Forget about it and get a new phone with stock FM, or a BT/FM headset like Sony MW-1.
Anyone know of a workaround for NextRadio's requirement that headphones be plugged in before I'm allowed to play through my phone's speakers?
I think the head phones are used as an antenna. If it works like fm radio on an a htc phone.
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I think the head phones are used as an antenna. If it works like fm radio on an a htc phone.
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This is correct. It's a limitation of physics: you need an antenna of a certain length to receive the radio signals.