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Co-Pilot Installation

hi every1,
my 3 contract runs out next month and i am thinking about getting the MDA Compact III.
My question is about co-pilot that comes with the t-mobile UK bundle. I was wondering if was able to get hold of the installation cd's from somewhere ... can i install it on my empty memory card
are there any serial numbers or anything that i might need?
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just another question to add. anyone with the co-pilot bundle. i went to a t-mobile shop today to ask them about a similer question. worded differently tho lol. seem to have answered my question. the co-pilot bundle does come with original installation cds for you to re-install them on your mem card. ;-)
but the women said that the co-pilot bundle comes with an antenna that plugs into the back of the phone. now im wondering
1) is this really needed? bcoz i thought the GPS was in-built????
2) wot type of antenna would i need? and how much do they cost?
thanks,
Snoop

Ive ordered a compact III without the copilot bundle. from reading other peoples reviews, they have installed software such as tomtom on the pda and it worked successfully. Hence im pretty sure you dont need any sort of antenna. Interesting to know what they meant?

ansaar99 said:
Ive ordered a compact III without the copilot bundle. from reading other peoples reviews, they have installed software such as tomtom on the pda and it worked successfully. Hence im pretty sure you dont need any sort of antenna. Interesting to know what they meant?
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thats a good point you know. maybe she said that it comes with attenna because it would help boost the signal. bcoz my friend has a navman pda and he uses an external attenna to do just that.
it be interesting to know to excat box contents of the phone and phone with copilot bundle. can anyone fill us in please
thanks,
snoop

ansaar99 said:
Ive ordered a compact III without the copilot bundle. from reading other peoples reviews, they have installed software such as tomtom on the pda and it worked successfully. Hence im pretty sure you dont need any sort of antenna. Interesting to know what they meant?
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Sounds interesting.
Maybe they include an RDS antenna to get live traffic updates??
Can anyone confirm this?

hi guys,
regarding this external antenna. please read below. found it on this website http://htcphonestore.com/review.asp?itemMDL=HTC_P3300
GPS Navigation
One of the best features of the Artemis is the integrated GPS. With a built in GPS Sirf-Star III chipset, navigation was seamless. The unit comes bundled with TomTom 6, and included in your purchase is the ability to download one free city-map. Additionally, there is an external antenna port on the back of the unit which enables you to achieve better satellite reception. More on the GPS capabilities in Part II.
just need to find out what type it is. maybe some with the manual can have a read through and tell us. if under there accessories section they mention anything.
thanks,
snoop

found this description about a Bluetooth GPS antenna?
http://www.yourkindamobile.co.uk/upgrades2_orange.asp?Phone=2036&Network=T-Mobile
Includes Co-Pilot GPS navigation which gives you spoken and on-screen turn instructions, satellite positioning, address-level street map, ETA and distance remaining, detour around traffic and 2D or 3D display with night mode. Bluetooth GPS antenna included.

snoop85 said:
just need to find out what type it is. maybe some with the manual can have a read through and tell us. if under there accessories section they mention anything.
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If you really think you need an external aerial for the GPS unit in your device (which I doubt to be honest) have a search for the part number 36H00352-00M it transpires that the same aerial was supplied for the I-Mate PDA-n, you can purchase one from http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=129590 (at least I can improve the reception on my PDA-n now I know that! and I have found a use for the external GPS aerial that was supplied with my Arte) - Mike

To confirm guys...
I opened the box to an MDA III co-pilot and the package contains:
Software
Moulded Car Holder (Windscreen Sucker)
Car charger for MDA
No GPS antenna and no Bluetooth receiver. This product retails at 169.99 compared to 199.99 with the GPS bluetooth receiver (Vario, Vario 2 etc...)

treblechance said:
To confirm guys...
I opened the box to an MDA III co-pilot and the package contains:
Software
Moulded Car Holder (Windscreen Sucker)
Car charger for MDA
No GPS antenna and no Bluetooth receiver. This product retails at 169.99 compared to 199.99 with the GPS bluetooth receiver (Vario, Vario 2 etc...)
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wwwhoooo thanks treblechance. thanks for confirming, must mean the shop assisant meant that you can BUY one extra. like the one pointed out by mikealder. because i know a friend who has one of those navman pda's and he is using an external attenaa to boost the signal. and simply plugs in the back, similar place to what the shop assisstant showed me.
looks like i what need to buy the copilot bundle after all SAVING me a bundle of $$$ hehe
thanks everyone for the help.

If you have the hardware and only need the GPS software try using it first with the inbuilt GPS, don't go wasting money on the external GPS aerial, the receiver in the Artemis is very good without re-course to an external feed. If you have a car with Athermic coated glass you might experiance a signal drop but even so I would try it first and it should be fine with just the device on its own - Mike

ye good point mike. thats what some of my friends said. thanks

Manual
hey does anyone know where i can get a pdf version of the manual?
i thought someone posted somewhere on the forum. but i can seem to find it

snoop85 said:
hey does anyone know where i can get a pdf version of the manual?
i thought someone posted somewhere on the forum. but i can seem to find it
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Hi,
Try - http://www.europe.htc.com/support/training.html

TomTom on the MDA Compact III? Anyone used one?
Hi all,
I am in the process of getting tmobile mda iii compact without the bundled co-pilot but tmobile call centre said it wouldn’t work but I’m very taken with tom tom.
So I am seeking information from anyone that has actually pulled it off.
This is because I would like to know if there are any negatives involved and what.
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanx

mikolo said:
Hi all,
I am in the process of getting tmobile mda iii compact without the bundled co-pilot but tmobile call centre said it wouldn’t work but I’m very taken with tom tom.
So I am seeking information from anyone that has actually pulled it off.
This is because I would like to know if there are any negatives involved and what.
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanx
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hi,
i think they may be right. i tried getting co-pilot to work on my mda but wasnt having any of it. so i gave up in the end. i think the only way you can install it is using some kind of auto install file that is on the memory that is provided when you buy the bundle.
as for tom tom. i have managed to get that working just prefect. i tried it inside my house wasnt getting a very good signal. stepped outside...and hey presto 11 signals picked up. i havnt done full test of it i.e. driving from my house to another location. but it seemed to work fine when i did a small walk around my local area.
hope that helps.
regards,
snoop

i have a question about copilot's installation. Does anyone know where the license file is installed. I had copilot installed on one device and copied files onto another device thinking that would save me download time. Anyway now it keeps picking the licensing info from the previous device. I have tried uninstall and reinstall but that did not help. If someone could help me with resetting the licensing info so I can register the software with the new key. Thanks.

MDA Compact III WLAN and technical questions

Hello to All
I have seen many people search for the answer to the question I have, does our MDA CIII have WLAN or not?
There is an extensive thread on that topic, with no real conclusion, so i thought i open a new one, and throw some new ideas and questions into the room.
First of all:
I own a Arte110 i was one of the first ones to get it in Austria, i bought it right when it hit T-mobile stores on the 02.11, back then the Austrian webpage advertised it has WLAN, the German webpage never claimed that, so when i was standing in the store i asked once more, and the guy said no WLAN, in that moment i didnt think much, since the device was very nice, and there was no alternative for me, since my other phones was stollen a couple of days before, and i was in a hurry to get a new mobile.
Well now i do miss WLAN, and i am trying everything to get to it
I checked the dutch page yesterday, it still says WLAN, can it be that T-mobile doesnt supply some of its biggest markets (German, Austria) without WLAN, but it does so in the Dutch market. It doesnt even make sense to buy two different pieces of HArdware when they order in masses.
SO how come we dont get WLAN and they do! And seemingly some dutch friends have confirmed their devices have WLAN. I am planing to confront T-mobile Austria on that and see what they say, did any one do that already?
Further i tried talking up HTC, but they didnt help much, told me to go talk to t-mobile.
Now a question to the technical guys around, being an Electronic Engineer myself, i am very interested in playing around to get this WLAN mystery solved, so i am in the search of following things:
a. Any one take one of these things appart?
b. Any way to get our hands on infromation concearing wireing, chipsets, and the inside of the device? I found this italian website which had a block diagram of the new HTC 4000-something model, it would be nice to have something like that for our MDA, would solve many questions.
c. What type of USB does our device have, is it client only or does it also support host? if so we would work out an external solution! That would be great if it would support host function, specialy for all other kind of applications.
d. Any idea where we could get such info from
Thanks to all
And dont give up until we have a prove that the Hardware for WLAN is missing in our devices!

The extensive thread you refer to has most of the answers to your questions, I think, on the penultimate page. The outfit who unlocked the phone said it wasn't an Artemis model (the United Kingdom MDAIII enquired about and similar to the German/Austrian I believe) but a Hero and it didn't have wireless lan.
They also said the Artemis and Hero looked cosmetically identical but were different inside...
I must admit that I find it strange that the Dutch went for the Artemis model and the others the Hero. You would have thought that the entire European operation would have made a bulk purchase.

well i have still no information on the USB?

Mtheory said:
Hello to All
I have seen many people search for the answer to the question I have, does our MDA CIII have WLAN or not?
There is an extensive thread on that topic, with no real conclusion, so i thought i open a new one, and throw some new ideas and questions into the room.
First of all:
I own a Arte110 i was one of the first ones to get it in Austria, i bought it right when it hit T-mobile stores on the 02.11, back then the Austrian webpage advertised it has WLAN, the German webpage never claimed that, so when i was standing in the store i asked once more, and the guy said no WLAN, in that moment i didnt think much, since the device was very nice, and there was no alternative for me, since my other phones was stollen a couple of days before, and i was in a hurry to get a new mobile.
Well now i do miss WLAN, and i am trying everything to get to it
I checked the dutch page yesterday, it still says WLAN, can it be that T-mobile doesnt supply some of its biggest markets (German, Austria) without WLAN, but it does so in the Dutch market. It doesnt even make sense to buy two different pieces of HArdware when they order in masses.
SO how come we dont get WLAN and they do! And seemingly some dutch friends have confirmed their devices have WLAN. I am planing to confront T-mobile Austria on that and see what they say, did any one do that already?
Further i tried talking up HTC, but they didnt help much, told me to go talk to t-mobile.
Now a question to the technical guys around, being an Electronic Engineer myself, i am very interested in playing around to get this WLAN mystery solved, so i am in the search of following things:
a. Any one take one of these things appart?
b. Any way to get our hands on infromation concearing wireing, chipsets, and the inside of the device? I found this italian website which had a block diagram of the new HTC 4000-something model, it would be nice to have something like that for our MDA, would solve many questions.
c. What type of USB does our device have, is it client only or does it also support host? if so we would work out an external solution! That would be great if it would support host function, specialy for all other kind of applications.
d. Any idea where we could get such info from
Thanks to all
And dont give up until we have a prove that the Hardware for WLAN is missing in our devices!
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Hehe, hello
I'm from austria too and did already much research but gave it up. There is some kind of proof that wifi is not built in. Great to see some support from austria . I suggest you ment that thread didn't you?
greets from vienna

Hi
Nice to see your replies. But i still havent seen any answer to my most important question:
IS THE USB ON THE MDAC III a full USB OR ONLY CLIENT? i have not seen an answer in any of the forums, thanks

Mtheory said:
Hi
Nice to see your replies. But i still havent seen any answer to my most important question:
IS THE USB ON THE MDAC III a full USB OR ONLY CLIENT? i have not seen an answer in any of the forums, thanks
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Afaik it's client only... though I'm not completely sure.

We should really find out, cuz if its a full functioning USB, one could try getting a WLAN to work on it externally.
I must say i still have hopes of having the hardware inside...these dutch people, why do they get WLAN? i dont understand. They should help us out with a ROM...it would be redicoulus if T-mobile only supplied them with WLAN (no offense i like holland, but still this gets me mad)
I will contact T-mobile tomorrow and have a word with them!

If the USB is only a client, how is hte antenna recognized via USB?

I don't think, that the antenna has to be recognized as a "Device"... It is just a cable, that is connected to the right Pins in the USB Connector. A normal FM Radio surely does not recognize the Antenna as a device, almost any cable can do the job if connected to the Antenne Input of the Radio....At least i'd say

ok explanation taken...i was hoping for a bit more hightec...but that goes too...(and is absolutly right).
So no one around her believes that the USB could also be a host?

The Omap850 can handle usb on-the-go. See here: http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wt...lateId=6123&navigationId=12000&contentId=4679
German USB-On-The-GO Description (german): http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/23696
We can also see that wlan a/b/g is on chip but wth is wiLink?! or mWLAN.
greets

THIS IS great, thanks...I was looking for a block diagramm...now lets look what the chip can do...
Thanks

Ok i figured what the WiLink is, and its sounds really good for us, since it seems to be part of the MDAC III architecture:
"WiLink™ 5.0 platform is the industry's first solution that integrates mobile WLAN (mWLAN), Bluetooth® and FM stereo audio all in a space-saving platform for mobile phones."
Sounds like the functionality of our MDAC III, only that Austria/German/UK doesnt have the GOD DAMN WLAN activated (i hate you dutch guys... )
SO now following question, if the WLAN is intergrated on the OMAP, it cannot be removed by HW...but only be deactivated via firmware. The question is now, does the OMAP need some co-processor to make use of WLAN, or only an antenna, now if it needs an antenna, then it could well be that Tmobile removed this Antenna!
I will do further technical research on this

it does seem to miss integrated WLAN: "54-Mbps WLAN interface" i think when they talk of interfaces, the only mean it supports some WLAN chip to work with it...

Hmm, you can see that that WiLink/mWLAN stuff is not on chip. It's some external circuit which possibly does not exist on our mdac3. Though... proove me wrong and we are best friends

Mtheory said:
it does seem to miss integrated WLAN: "54-Mbps WLAN interface" i think when they talk of interfaces, the only mean it supports some WLAN chip to work with it...
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Ahm, yes... I was 2 minutes too late... I btw already installed the wifi-driver from a dutch mdac3 and it didn't work. It is still possible that i did something wrong when doing this.

We need a Dutch ROM

upgrade to orbit? yes or no?

o2 have offered me an upgrade from my IIi to the orbit. As some of you have been using the orbit for a little while is it all it's cracked up to be?
and does tomtom work ok with the orbit and the built in gps reciever?
cheers guys

Go for it you will love it if not sell it many will be after it if you don't like it.
Or you could wait for the zinc (feb 07 or so) if you can do without the gps in-built?

There is an issue with MicroSD's that possibly dosnt effect all units. See other threads.
Apart from that and if you clock it to 250MHz it works extremely well. I loved my BlueAngel but even my old stylus feels fat now. The jog dial / track ball is mega and internal GPS a breeze. The slower CPU also has the benefit of longer battery life.
I am currently looking for one for a friend on eBay and they are going for £300+ so if you dont like it can always sell and keep old phone...
ps. I use a Sandisk UltraII 2gb MicroSD which may speed up map access etc, its generally slightly slower than my 500MHz BlueAngel but no problem.

I'm a new user of the Xda Orbit, my first WM PDA after owning a tapwave zodiac and the first phone I can really type text messages on. For a PDA it's light, snappy (my last wm device was a Compaq Aero 15xx), has an excellent battery life and the GPS works a treat.
The biggest benefit is the size, though, compared to the other similarly featured Xda's in the o2 lineup this one is TINY, it dropped the jaws of my techy colleagues to the floor.
I find TomTom to be pretty fast and accurate getting a fix, route calculations are fast enough, but it is a little slow to start up initially- overclocking helps but not much. I have overclocked to 260 for PocketSNES and on other occasions but find it normally fast enough to be comfortable - quite a feat with a meer 200mhz!
I'd say go for it, I'm posting this message from Mine now! got 3 tabs open text-mode in NetFront- browsing perfection!

I have had the following:
XDA II
XDA IIs
XDA IIi
XDA Exec
And recently upgraded to the Orbit. I must say that it is the closest I have come to being 100% happy with an XDA.
Had no idea how compact this device is. No more holding a brick to your ear, this is an aesthetically pleasing device - even for non PDA'ers.
I haven't found anything that doesn't work yet. I thought the GPS would be just another gimick and there was no way it was going to work properly without an external antenna - WRONG! Stick TomTom 6.02 on it and away you go. Managed nearly seven hours of GPS directed driving before the battery got too low (have now got a car charger).
I have been waiting for a device that combined all the functionality of a good PDA and phone in a phone size package and here it is.............and they throw in a GPS and FM Radio to boot.
and one more thing if you get a decent set of headphones (either buy an adapter or do a bit of DIY soldering) it's a pretty decent MP3 player too. 2GB micro SD from Moby Memory for about £40 and painless synching with Media Player 11 and your away.
The main reason I have a PDA phone is for Terminal Server. I provide software support and it gives me the freedom to get out of the House/Office and still be able to support my Clients. I was always able to justify carrying around a house brick (EXEC) because of this. Now I don't have to this phone is great and I have to say it ..... Gorgeous.
OK now it's out - I love my Orbit!!!
Go get one - I'm pretty sure you'll be happy!
Hope this helped!

Since a couple of weeks ago, I'm also the proud owner of a HTC P3300, after owning a Qtek S100 for a year and a half.
I'm truly very happy with my new P3300.
Almost all of the features have been mentioned in other replies to your post (and I agree with them), so, I want to add that, despite having the same 64Mb of RAM as the S100, it seems to me (I'm no expert) that memory management works better (probably WM5 instead of WM2003 has something to to with it) than it did on the S100.
Also the new 2Mpixel camera works very well, the picture quality is very good. It doesn't have flash or 'macro mode' selector, but I can live without it.
The phone capabilities are good (I had a lot of problems with the S100 not relating phone numbers to names or contact photos).
Apart from a little problem I had with activesync (mentioned in another thread and already solved) it's been working perfectly.
As for the GPS softwares, I use Destinator 6 (instead of TomTom) and Navitel (with custom Madeira map) for navigation and both of them work perfectly.
Bottom line, and yes, I'll be repating myself, I'm very very happy with my P3300.
regards,

thanks for the advice guys! looks like im off to get myself one then!

How about InfraRed capability?
I currently own a Mini S and I'm really keen to upgrade to the Orbit. I've however found that Orbit seems not to have an InfraRed port. So I wouldn't be able to use it as a TV remote control. Can anyone please confirm? Thanks.
PPB

How about InfraRed capability?
I currently own a Mini S and I'm really keen to upgrade to the Orbit. I've however found that Orbit seems not to have an InfraRed port. So I wouldn't be able to use it as a TV remote control. Can anyone please confirm? Thanks.
PPB

as far as i could see and i've read no it doesnt have an IR port, but surely using your phone as a tv remote isn't the be all and end all is it?

BUSPBP said:
I currently own a Mini S and I'm really keen to upgrade to the Orbit. I've however found that Orbit seems not to have an InfraRed port. So I wouldn't be able to use it as a TV remote control. Can anyone please confirm? Thanks.
PPB
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Hi
It doesn't have infrared, but if I where you I would treat myself to one of these
Link
I have one and along with the Orbit this remote is superb.
Rich

today i upgrade
T-Mobile mda compact 3 with HTC software and it is better then t-mobile software it is quickly

BUSPBP said:
I currently own a Mini S and I'm really keen to upgrade to the Orbit. I've however found that Orbit seems not to have an InfraRed port. So I wouldn't be able to use it as a TV remote control. Can anyone please confirm? Thanks.
PPB
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I asked HTC about making this device with consumer grade IR and 3G to make this a complete device. This is the response i got from HTC.
"Thank you for getting in contact with HTC regarding your recommendations and support. its more than likely a phone will come out with the functions you have asked. Its a case that at the moment a trade of as to be implemented due to technology reasons due to the GPS functions incorporated in to the phone, which requires other hardware to be dropped from the phone. The GPS being implemented is still fairly new concept and even through I don't have details of future phones its only a matter of time before it happens. Personally i'm waiting for a phone/GPS with slide out keyboard, which again can only be a matter of time.
Thank You for your comments"
All in all adding IR and 3G would make this one compact complete device. Use it to control your gadgets, navigate you around when driving, using it for phone and all manner of PPC functionality with virtually every connection option. One day it will be reality.
Just a snippet from HTC
Hope that helps.

Absolutely YES
Look at my signature, I've worked with nearly all HTCs from an early stage. If you can live without a keyboard, this is THE device to have at the moment.
HTC are nearing perfection!
Best device ever released (excluding the Universal for business use, still unbeatable).

I just got one - having been through the magician (which the wife now loves and uses) and the exec (which I still use as an excellent business tool) I have got to say that I am bowled over by the Orbit/3300 - WM5.0 AKU3, GPS, great screen, brilliant battery life (I get 3 days moderate usage out of mine between charges - 10 calls per day, push email on 18 hours per day, occasional GPS use!
GET ONE - U WILL NOT REGRET IT - and per other posts, if you don't like it I am sure it will get snapped up on EBAY

fox 2 said:
o2 have offered me an upgrade from my IIi to the orbit. As some of you have been using the orbit for a little while is it all it's cracked up to be?
and does tomtom work ok with the orbit and the built in gps reciever?
cheers guys
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Hi,
You might like to check out the thread on the General Forum :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291461
also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289166 (TomTom 6 instead of copilot)
and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289243
Ann

HTC Remote COntrol / Headphone adapter

Saw this on another site, looks good. Might just splash out for this.
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=145136&partner=froogle
Jeff

sweetttttt must have one... when i have a working orbit

Still bricked? Those peeps in Glasgow are worth every penny!
Jeff

jthspace said:
Saw this on another site, looks good. Might just splash out for this.
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=145136&partner=froogle
Jeff
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Hi!
Have you tried it out yet? I sow some people complaining about software compatibility, that it only let you control Windows Media Player. Does anybody know if this remote let you control the HTC AudioManger application, as this is a much better MP3 player than the old WMP.
Regards,
PK

Dear,
I just take it from this web, and I found It's can used with 2 program
1 is WMP and the other is HTC Audio Manager(but you need install drive that come with package). It's very good smalltalk and remote control but I used p800w It's can't used HTC Audio booster, that made me sad because I like Bass Boost.
Have Any one have Base Boost that can used and work with p800w?
Thanks a lot.

paalkr said:
Hi!
Have you tried it out yet? I sow some people complaining about software compatibility, that it only let you control Windows Media Player. Does anybody know if this remote let you control the HTC AudioManger application, as this is a much better MP3 player than the old WMP.
Regards,
PK
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Hi, it sort of works. When I got the package, there was a sticker over the supported models - the O2 Xda Orbit was "not" supported. As I had changed the ROM to the HTC generic version, I loaded the drivers and plugged it in. The adapter works, and I can use normal headphones BUT none of the buttons on the remote function with the O2 XDA
The Artemis and the XDA may just be that little bit different (more than just the case) which may be why they put a sticker over the supported models info. By the way, it was sold as an Artemis accessory and not an O2 XDA accessory, so I cant really send it back.
Therefore, if anyone in the UK has an Artemis (not an O2 XDA) and wants the adapter, they can buy it off me for £15 plus postage. It is brand new, used once, in its original box with driver disk. If you want to pay by PayPal, it's £2 extra to cover the fees, otherwise NOCHEX or direct bank transfer.
Jeff

jthspace said:
Hi, it sort of works. When I got the package, there was a sticker over the supported models - the O2 Xda Orbit was "not" supported. As I had changed the ROM to the HTC generic version, I loaded the drivers and plugged it in. The adapter works, and I can use normal headphones BUT none of the buttons on the remote function with the O2 XDA
The Artemis and the XDA may just be that little bit different (more than just the case) which may be why they put a sticker over the supported models info. By the way, it was sold as an Artemis accessory and not an O2 XDA accessory, so I cant really send it back.
Therefore, if anyone in the UK has an Artemis (not an O2 XDA) and wants the adapter, they can buy it off me for £15 plus postage. It is brand new, used once, in its original box with driver disk. If you want to pay by PayPal, it's £2 extra to cover the fees, otherwise NOCHEX or direct bank transfer.
Jeff
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no, they are the same phone, hardware wise. I have the remote and a O2 XDA Orbit and it works. You just need to install the HTC Audo Driver update for the P3300. Otherwise, the remote won't work when the phone switches off to save power. This stupid bug affects all apps, including in the middle of a phone conversation. I think that is mainly the reason for the audio driver update. I don't have the HTC Audio Manager, anyone know how I can get hold of it?
The remote works with WMP. It also works with the FM Radio app, pressing play mutes it (rather than the mute button on the side), volume control (not the main phone volume) works, FF/FR switches between preset stations.
The green/red phone buttons works even when running other apps like TomTom or TCPMP. But non of the other soft buttons can be mapped to functions in TCPMP or any other program for that matter as they don't exist like your average hardware buttons on the phone itself. So as a result, you can't assign a button to activate Voice Dial or Voice Command.
The other problem is more to do with the new ExtMiniUSB port. I cannot charge the phone while I listen to the radio or mp3s for that matter! Compare to older generations of HTC phones which has a mini usb + separate 2.5mm headphone socket, this is quite stupid as I believe many ppl charge their phone via USB at work and also listen to the mp3s.

Ok, i was wondering why HTC was giving such strange answers about the useless power consumption.
HTC > (there will be no update to solve this, because it is not knowing issue.)???
Its strange behavior in my opinion when the phone wakes up completely after touching one of the buttons and never goes to sleep again. Not even switches the screen off. It uses more energy that way.
I’ve made a application for this problem just to switch the screen completely off after using the buttons on the remote. It runs in the background and waits for a change in the SystemPowerState. When the backlight dims it will switch of the screen after 1 second.
I can’t prevent the device from waking up but this works good enough.
Next step is to hook in to the remote interface driver and make the buttons act like normal devicebuttons so it would be possible to use another MP3 player. But I ‘m afraid my knowledge about this is not enough. Maybe someone can help me with that.

humps said:
You just need to install the HTC Audo Driver update for the P3300.
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Hi,
I downloaded the updated driver from HTC when I got the remote (instructions suggested this) and it made no difference at all.
Oh, Well, it looks nice on the bookcase!
Jeff

humps said:
.... I don't have the HTC Audio Manager, anyone know how I can get hold of it?
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Yes, download it from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39583&d=1179845126
Regards,
PK

paalkr said:
Yes, download it from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39583&d=1179845126
Regards,
PK
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THANK YOU!

jthspace said:
Hi,
I downloaded the updated driver from HTC when I got the remote (instructions suggested this) and it made no difference at all.
Oh, Well, it looks nice on the bookcase!
Jeff
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Oh well, sorry to hear that didn't help. I received my remote on the 17th, noticed it didn't work too well even after installing the driver that came with the remote. Then found the news that Audio Driver Update was release on the 16th so I got the download and it worked from then on.

it tries to you works in stereo

Works fine
I'm been using the rc for 2 weeks now and one must say it's working exactly the way I expected it to. The only lil hitch is the missing "stand-by" so you waste some amount of battery.
Maybe it's possible to check with a small service whether Audio Manager is running in playback mode and react e.g. with turning of background lights.
I'll give it a try next week in office (need my VS).
Anybody with experience?

wold you recommend one then?

paalkr said:
Have you tried it out yet? I sow some people complaining about software compatibility, that it only let you control Windows Media Player. Does anybody know if this remote let you control the HTC AudioManger application, as this is a much better MP3 player than the old WMP.
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For me it's working without drivers with HTC Audiomanager, WMP and with the FM radio and it's fine to use my own headphones.

HTC's stupid headphone/power socket combo & ultimatum
Dear HTC,
Please, if your are not the appropriate person to be considering my email, pass it on to someone who can adequately able to address my concerns.
Briefly, I am a huge fan of HTC handsets, having been a the proud owner of no less than 5 different models in the last 3 years.
My particular issue is with the HTC TYTN and TYTN II (or Kaiser) models. I am far from alone in this concern, as a simple Google search will reveal, so I am not going to waste time justifying myself. I'll launch immediately into the criticism and the request for an explanation, etc...
2 years ago, my first TYTN had to be replaced after 3 months because the ill-conceived combo-headphone-power mini USB socket became faulty. After 13 months it became faulty again. Since it was out of guarantee, i had to repair it myself. A month later however, when the socket once again broke, I installed a separate headphone socket in the side of the case myself, it was easy... TOO easy...
Since then my original TYTN has been fine.
A few weeks ago, I purchased the new TYTN II or Kaiser. I knew beforehand that the headphone and power sockets were once again the same. However, I assumed that they would have been strengthened due to the bad pres the previous model had received over this issue.
I was sadly mistaken. Within 3 weeks I have had to replace my TYTN II after the headphones started crackling when I moved the headphone cable. After examination, the mini-USB socket is IDENTICAL to the original TYTN,and bending in the same way. I have now stopped recommending this phone to people due to this. Either you don't intent users of this handset to use headphones, or you dont care that the socket isn't up to the job!
Considering that I influence thousands of people through my website in their choice of hanset upgrades, I am sure that HTC will feel the financial blow of my decision, at least slightly.
My questions are as follows:
1.) Why, after all the bad press the initial single connector design got, did HTC decide to do exactly the same stupid thing with the Kaiser (TYTN II)?
2.) Are you prepared to issue me, free of charge, with a a
brand new model, with a SEPARATE headphone socket, for which I will write an article in the magazine I work for singing your praises and recommending your improved Kaiser II, with the separate stereo headphone socket?
I formally give you 7 days to reply to my satisfaction, considering I have spent nearly £1000 with you. Failing to do so will result in a loss of revenue to yourselves totaling at least many hundreds of thousands of dollars/pounds.
Sincerely
Lawrence Bowen

Those with the remote who want to save power when using it as an mp3 player, use MortSaver. basicall you can set it to turn screen off after a predetimend time. Therfore every time you use your remote, it normally turns on the sreen, and never turns off wasting battery whlle its sitting in your pocket.
Mort saver turns if off again after each use of the remote, so you can leave it in your pocket with the knowledge you are not draining you battery.
now Ill I need is some equalizer I can use with Mediaplayer!

XDA-BOJ said:
Those with the remote who want to save power when using it as an mp3 player, use MortSaver. basicall you can set it to turn screen off after a predetimend time. Therfore every time you use your remote, it normally turns on the sreen, and never turns off wasting battery whlle its sitting in your pocket.
Mort saver turns if off again after each use of the remote, so you can leave it in your pocket with the knowledge you are not draining you battery.
now Ill I need is some equalizer I can use with Mediaplayer!
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Perfect! mortsaver worked for me.
With the attached file you have some kind of equalizer. Your using an equalizer to optimize the sound and this prog. realy does the trick!
regards

Cheers already found this and its on the latest touch 4.01 ROM.
combination with Mortsaver and 8G SDHC card now makes the HTC3300 a very usable MP3 Player

Decent Bluetooth USB dongle for A2DP

I'm looking for a reasonably priced, short-to-medium range Bluetooth dongle for my PC. It seems there are hundreds, nay, thousands of offerings on fleabay, Amazon, you name it.
What I've gathered is a lot of them have CSR Bluecore chipsets. Or falsely identify themselves as such. The second thing I've gathered is that lots of them are just the hardware, with no software (or include crap like BlueSoleil, or trial versions).
I want to use the device with a pair of A2DP stereo headphones, and possibly other stuff like OBEX, whatever else it might support.
I'm really in the dark here -- it looks like a crapshoot. When you Google for reviews, it's the usual drivel. When I search the forums here, there are some rather old posts (2004?!) but nothing I see that's relevant.
Does anyone have a good experience with a $20 or less Bluetooth 2.0 EDR dongle for USB? If so, please let me know! Thanks in advance.

This is the one I have. You can also look into this one.

.HaVoC. said:
This is the one I have. You can also look into this one.
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Those are exactly the form factors I've been looking at. Small enough to just pop into a USB port and look integrated with the machine. Though I worry that small = less powerful = compromise.
What does it enumerates itself as, a CSR chipset? I'm assuming you got it working with A2DP okay. I looked at their product page and it says it's driverless... unless you want to use A2DP, in which case they provide a driver.
It's strange that the one withouta driver CD is more expensive -- wonder if that means it's a more capable/more expensive chipset?

The latest bluesoleil is very good. Try the trial, as I have found it gives complete functionality to the cheapest of dongles.

I would get a newer one which used broadcom software
ms is missing a lot of profiles
toshiba seems unstable
never messed with other stacks