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Hi,
I've been dreaming about a Jasjar for more than a month, searching all the web for something used at a reasonable price.
Finally I found and bought one on eBay for 398 Euros (shipping included).
Before paying I would like to know if the device will work in Italy with my SIM card "WIND" and if I will be able to set it up for Email etc...
The seller says that he bought it on Expansis.co.uk and it's SIM Free.
I'm not interested in changing the language since english ROM updates are more frequent, but will I be able to register my device in clubimate (is it .com or .co.uk?) for the updates?
I will really appreciate some help from somebody.
Thank you

hmmm
if it is a real jasjar and not a tmobile mda pro (DOUBBLE CHECK) it should work with any provider.
i find it very brave to buy a phone like that voor 400 euros on ebay.. so scary, and you wont know what he is sending you.. could have a broken screen or a stylus which has been stuck the wrong way around in its hole.. or a broken mini usb slot..
If you want to register it at imate you should get the imate details of him (if he has registered the phone there) If it is stolen then you wont have luck on imate.com
Also 400 euros i think is very cheap for a real jasjar.. i placed my qtek9000 on a marketplace and got real offers of 500 euro plus within an hour.
Best thing i can advise is to buy one which you can see before you pay. Or else buy it with gurantee..
Greetz
DvL

Are T-Mobile lying to me?

I am about to purchase the XDA Orbit or Orange M700 or the T-Mobile MDA Compact iii. I am trying to get the best deal...Is there anyway to switch on the MDA'S WLAN?
Orange- Phone FREE. £35/[email protected] months. 200 Mins & 300 txts PLUS unlimited weekend texts. No satnav software and the WLAN is there!!
02- (Who I am with now tried to better orange's offer) Phone FREE. £30/[email protected] 18 months!! 400 mins & 750 texta. No satnav software and the wireless lans there.
T-Mobile - (They know both Orange's & 02's offer but didnt make an offer) Web and walk flext. £37.50/[email protected] 18 months (With the option to cancel the web and walk at anytime as well as downgrade to a cheaper contract after 6 months) £180 allowence on my account per a month, plus 1GB of internet access (They say unlimited but thats a lie due to fair use policy etc etc) No satnav software or Wireless Lan (The guy said a firmware update is comming which will switch it on!??)
HELP ME PLEASSEE!

Why you're boring us with questions to WLAN on MDAcIII?
There are thousends and thousands of threads concerning this question.

For what its worth, from a MDA III owner go with the XDA Orbit.
The spv m700 is HTC Trinity. Orange sell the Artemis as spv m650 but is it available in the UK?
As for the wifi on the MDA III.....do not think it will take a simple update to switch it on. I believe the hardware is simply not there to begin with. Why would T-mobile say an update is coming which will activate the wifi ?! Looks like they are offering flext 35 + web n walk. Personally, hate to be locked in an 18 month contract with any provider. I am on flext 35 with a 12 month plan, my monthly allowance is only £120.
The lack of wifi is not too bad if you have web n walk. Yes there is a fair usage policy, it is still best gprs tariff in the UK. They don't like you using msn, skype etc.
You will have it all with the Orbit. Gps, Wifi, bluetooth and phone!

The T-Mobile devise does not contain the WiFi hardware so if T-Mobile told you a firmware update will switch it on he is lying - there is NOTHING THERE to be switched on!
I have the T-Mob unit and with the Web-n-Walk I can use the internet without a problem, you would have to be online nearly 24/7 to use up your 1GB per month (and there is another tarrif for 3GB per month IIRC).
I also have the HTC P3300 Artemis which does have WiFi, but unless the connection is free I tend to use the T-Mob unit. If WiFi is so important to you get the O2 Orbit or buy a P3300 unit, they are available from some suppliers tied to contracts which is a cheaper way to purchase it.
For me the clincher for the HTC P3300 Artemis was the abscence of the crappy O2 Active Interface software that can mess up otherwise perfectly usable good hardware, the HTC unit is to all intents and purposes the same as the Orbit, minus the XDA logo and its a nicer colour IMHO - Mike

You can always get the HTC P3300 and then go with any provider you want so you are not stuck with their built in bs.

One thing to watch out for is the possible difference in screens between the orange and o2 versions? I had the Orange M600 and was very happy with it unitl I put it beside an iMate Jamin - the Jamin's screen was much whiter and brighter even at lower backlight settings.
I now have the Orbit and the screen is also very bright white. However, I have not compared it to the Orange version but it may be worth doing so...

I don't regret the MDA CIII one bit, my previous Universal had wi-fi and in my usage habits, I never got to turn it on once, I wasn't hunting out hotspots, I wanted data on demand, and via O2 that was quite pricey.
So T-Mobile does not have wi-fi on their Artemis based device, instead they have GPRS bundles that can't even be closely matched by the other networks.
When making the choice, you need to ask yourself how you will use it. Sure if most of your data use is around Wi-Fi hotspots, then the MDA compact III is not for you, but if like me and you need data in a clients house, at a meeting or in the middle of a field then Web and Walk is your friend.
If only it was at 3.5g speeds!!!

All I wanted was a T-Mobile sim for cheaper GPRS when I switched provider (O2 really need to sort out their prices). In the shop I was offered the C-III for free so I took it!
Put the T-Mob sim in the Universal and enjoy the 3G speed (if you still have the device) - it simply flys along well worth trying, but my Uni is a brick in comparison to the Artemis devices - Mike

Orbit and Windows Mobile 6

Hi I am due an upgrade from O2 and I ama a .net developer by trade and would like to be able to develop for the new choice of XDA I am due to make.
I currently have and XDAIIi runing PPC2003SE and have been looking at the XDA Orbit as it has GPS and is a very nice device. My concern is that when I purchased my XDAIIi I had been waiting for the Exec but O2 kept putting it off and I changed and then 4-6 weeks later the Exec came out so I missed out on Mobile 5 and developing against .Net 2 for it.
My concern now is that with Mobile 6 being out that the Orbit is not a WM6 device and previously there has been no official way of porting my XDAIIi on to WM5. Am I going to be in the same situation with the Orbit? Have O2 mentioned an upgrade to WM6? Would it be available to new customers only, i.e. on phones offered after the upgrade released, or if I were to upgrade now would I be elligible for any potential upgrade? Tempted to wait a little longer...
Anyone have any knowledge/advice on this?
Thanks
Andrew

no official news yet - more discussion in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290039

I work for o2 and have asked but have heard nothing, I am going to go with no for free upgrades to WM6 as o2 have never done free system upgrades, I also read somewhere that HTC have indicated they will not be giving free OS upgrades to existing customers, one will have to buy new devices if we want the new OS

Hi thanks for the replies, guess I'll just sit tight a bit longer and see how things pan out.

hi amino: i have heard that O2 are offering unlimited data tariff's for £10 pcm, is this true? I have spoken to CS and they don't know.

no...at least not to my knowledge ! o2 is the worst offering for Data, atm there is a huge internal thread on the work forum on how bad it is and how we all feel that o2 needs to pull their finger out and look at what they are doing data wise as its exceptionally poor

gavinlew said:
hi amino: i have heard that O2 are offering unlimited data tariff's for £10 pcm, is this true? I have spoken to CS and they don't know.
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Don't count on any CS
If you want unlimited data (well... almost) go for T-Mobile Web'n'Walk tarrif. I know most ppl complain about lack of WiFi in the MDA C3 but having it with (1GB/mnth) internet I don't need to look for any WiFi spots. So far the best deal I have ever made on any tarrif/phone.
(I don't work for them )

Adigital said:
Don't count on any CS
If you want unlimited data (well... almost) go for T-Mobile Web'n'Walk tarrif. I know most ppl complain about lack of WiFi in the MDA C3 but having it with (1GB/mnth) internet I don't need to look for any WiFi spots. So far the best deal I have ever made on any tarrif/phone.
(I don't work for them )
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yep i totally agree with Adigital. Was one of the main reason why i went for MDA C3 rather than wait for the O2 Orbit. WiFi wasnt a big need for me. 1Gb is more than enough for me checking email, browse websites will on bus/train to uni and even go on msn. sometimes i leave it on for a good few hours, and doesnt really take up much data. i would def recommend the T-Mobile data package Web'n'Walk for anyone who wants to check email on the go almost any where at any time!

Brasilian settings

Anyone can tell me what the Brasilian settings for data have to be?
I intend to travel whitin 3 weeks to Brasil and want to add a local sim in my Trinity but wants to use the GPRS or UMTS (when availeble) aswell I don't mind about which operator cause I didn't bought the sim yet.
Thanks in advance
Willem

The Data Settings are different for each operator. so Search first an operator and then have a look ont his internet site which DataSettings you have to define... You must go allways over a Provider authentication for gprs and there the most are with a password protected...
It's also important to have a look wheter provider is most cheap for your needs.... Calling outside country or only localy or what ever else... like mms, sms, data...

Wilsas said:
Anyone can tell me what the Brasilian settings for data have to be?
I intend to travel whitin 3 weeks to Brasil and want to add a local sim in my Trinity but wants to use the GPRS or UMTS (when availeble) aswell I don't mind about which operator cause I didn't bought the sim yet.
Thanks in advance
Willem
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Williem, try this... I've been there for two years and my operator there was TIM... Pretty good for call but no EDGE, no UMTS, no low cost packages for connections...

Thanks
Thanks a lot
My idea was already to get a Tim chip, I don't now is it a long time ago that you where there, cause I have been there 2,5 year ago to do a trip at the Amazones and in that time I had al the time free dataconnection whit my M1000 Orange phone I bought in that time a Tim prepaid chip and could get straight away acces, last january I was in south Brasil with a Wizzard and could't get acces to the dataconnection at all neighter with my Dutch chip or whit a Brasilian chip.
I think 2 years ago it was still in trail and in January there was a full operational comercial connection.
I am realy curious about the prices which you paid for your data package there.
Regards
Willem

Williem, I stayed from August 2005 until end of March 2007 in a city close to Sao Paulo (Sao Jose dos Campos) and there was no problem for the GPRS connection. At that time there was an interesting option but only for the WAP trafic. Since when you connect our jewel to surf internet, is like a normal modem, they do not consider as a wap or mobile connection... My personal experience for maybe 2Mb payed 270R$ (or something like) = approx 100€ ... Then no more connections
This was in last december, maybe now there is something new...
You can try to look at here: http://www.timcelular.com.br/
The international calls, compared with our italian fares, is very cheap: with Voda chip, is 3€xmin, with a local TIM chip was 2R$ x min (0,75 - 0,80€)
The settings here attached are tested in a Qtek S100, Qtek S200 and with the P3600.
Some time the MMS connection is not available, but is not a setting problem, is an operator issue with their network expansion program...
Um abraço !!!

Just to inform that...at least in São Paulo, TIM has EDGE.

I live in Brazil and I can confirm you that we don't have UMTS. But there's EDGE at least in all the capitals. I can confirm you that data accesses are still expensive, specially if you have a pre-paid phone.
If you have furthet questions, feel free to contact me.

New Xda Orbit 2 handset - any more info yet?!

Hi all,
I've recently been looking favourably at the TyTN2 handset - I like how it's a HSDPA capable handset with all the bells and whistles like GPS etc.
Now I read of the new Xda Orbit 2 handset!
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/11/09/o2_xda_orbit_2/
And I'm liking this even more in that it'll 'Probably' be cheaper SIM free and that I think it's going to be pretty much the fantastic size of the current Orbit and crams in 3G and HSDPA !
Anyone know more of it's availability in the UK? the article does say 1st QTR 08 and that it's available in Germany now - but I see nothing on ebay or other online stores as yet.
I think I'm going to wait till it's available rather than getting the TyTN2 which I was very nearly going to do about now ! I'm glad I came across that article!
Cheers all!
Dennis, West London UK!

i think it's based on this http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=159608 which is available from 18th Jan.

From the article:
and the device can now accept Micro SD cards of up to 1GB in size.
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Erm... I'm using a 2GB MicroSD in my Orbit now?

Got a 2Gb microSD card in my T-Mobile MDA Compact III

For now Im holding on to my Artemis until HTC upgrades it with a keyboard (thumb board rather).
Or a TREO 750 with GPS reciever.
But id HTC doesnt, well Ive got something else in mind:
http://www.expansys.com/zoompic.aspx?type=item&i=158053

i'm waiting for the TouchCruise to be availible from T-Mobile as a upgrade...

O2 Orbit 2
January 2008
The upcoming O2 Xda, the Orbit 2, is the new PDA on the O2 block. Running on the Windows Mobile 6 Professional platform this mobile device has a lot going for it. This includes a 3 Megapixel camera, built-in GPS, a MicroSD memory card slot that takes up to 2GB and mini-USB connectivity. The Orbit 2 also comes with TouchFLO technology, which allows complete touchscreen accessibility along with Bluetooth v2 and WLAN. All of this in a great looking piece of kit!
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Did you try the o2 website ? http://shop.o2.co.uk/ComingSoon
You don't have long left to wait my friend.
I got the Orbit 1 in April and love it, but everything in the new one is twice the amount. Twice the CPU power, RAM, ROM.
Says in the quote 2GB, I hope they make this bigger as it would appeal as an MP3 player also, but 2GB is enough.
Only 10 months left until my contract runs out and I can get one of these W00t lol

XDA orbit 2 availability
Saw this and looks like a bargain
Phone cost £60.95
HTC Touch Cruise + O2 300 Connection
version: £45 Monthly, 12 Months, 300 Minutes, 250 Texts
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=160137
Estimated delivery 10 days although they did orginally say 18th Jan