Are T-Mobile lying to me? - P3300, MDA Compact III General

I am about to purchase the XDA Orbit or Orange M700 or the T-Mobile MDA Compact iii. I am trying to get the best deal...Is there anyway to switch on the MDA'S WLAN?
Orange- Phone FREE. £35/[email protected] months. 200 Mins & 300 txts PLUS unlimited weekend texts. No satnav software and the WLAN is there!!
02- (Who I am with now tried to better orange's offer) Phone FREE. £30/[email protected] 18 months!! 400 mins & 750 texta. No satnav software and the wireless lans there.
T-Mobile - (They know both Orange's & 02's offer but didnt make an offer) Web and walk flext. £37.50/[email protected] 18 months (With the option to cancel the web and walk at anytime as well as downgrade to a cheaper contract after 6 months) £180 allowence on my account per a month, plus 1GB of internet access (They say unlimited but thats a lie due to fair use policy etc etc) No satnav software or Wireless Lan (The guy said a firmware update is comming which will switch it on!??)
HELP ME PLEASSEE!

Why you're boring us with questions to WLAN on MDAcIII?
There are thousends and thousands of threads concerning this question.

For what its worth, from a MDA III owner go with the XDA Orbit.
The spv m700 is HTC Trinity. Orange sell the Artemis as spv m650 but is it available in the UK?
As for the wifi on the MDA III.....do not think it will take a simple update to switch it on. I believe the hardware is simply not there to begin with. Why would T-mobile say an update is coming which will activate the wifi ?! Looks like they are offering flext 35 + web n walk. Personally, hate to be locked in an 18 month contract with any provider. I am on flext 35 with a 12 month plan, my monthly allowance is only £120.
The lack of wifi is not too bad if you have web n walk. Yes there is a fair usage policy, it is still best gprs tariff in the UK. They don't like you using msn, skype etc.
You will have it all with the Orbit. Gps, Wifi, bluetooth and phone!

The T-Mobile devise does not contain the WiFi hardware so if T-Mobile told you a firmware update will switch it on he is lying - there is NOTHING THERE to be switched on!
I have the T-Mob unit and with the Web-n-Walk I can use the internet without a problem, you would have to be online nearly 24/7 to use up your 1GB per month (and there is another tarrif for 3GB per month IIRC).
I also have the HTC P3300 Artemis which does have WiFi, but unless the connection is free I tend to use the T-Mob unit. If WiFi is so important to you get the O2 Orbit or buy a P3300 unit, they are available from some suppliers tied to contracts which is a cheaper way to purchase it.
For me the clincher for the HTC P3300 Artemis was the abscence of the crappy O2 Active Interface software that can mess up otherwise perfectly usable good hardware, the HTC unit is to all intents and purposes the same as the Orbit, minus the XDA logo and its a nicer colour IMHO - Mike

You can always get the HTC P3300 and then go with any provider you want so you are not stuck with their built in bs.

One thing to watch out for is the possible difference in screens between the orange and o2 versions? I had the Orange M600 and was very happy with it unitl I put it beside an iMate Jamin - the Jamin's screen was much whiter and brighter even at lower backlight settings.
I now have the Orbit and the screen is also very bright white. However, I have not compared it to the Orange version but it may be worth doing so...

I don't regret the MDA CIII one bit, my previous Universal had wi-fi and in my usage habits, I never got to turn it on once, I wasn't hunting out hotspots, I wanted data on demand, and via O2 that was quite pricey.
So T-Mobile does not have wi-fi on their Artemis based device, instead they have GPRS bundles that can't even be closely matched by the other networks.
When making the choice, you need to ask yourself how you will use it. Sure if most of your data use is around Wi-Fi hotspots, then the MDA compact III is not for you, but if like me and you need data in a clients house, at a meeting or in the middle of a field then Web and Walk is your friend.
If only it was at 3.5g speeds!!!

All I wanted was a T-Mobile sim for cheaper GPRS when I switched provider (O2 really need to sort out their prices). In the shop I was offered the C-III for free so I took it!
Put the T-Mob sim in the Universal and enjoy the 3G speed (if you still have the device) - it simply flys along well worth trying, but my Uni is a brick in comparison to the Artemis devices - Mike

Related

XDA IIs, MDA III or M2000?

if buying a blue angel in the UK, which version is the one to shoot for?
looks aside, (O2 looks better in black) which provider offers good tech support + software support over the others?
I hear O2 getting slagged on a regular basis when it comes to component replacements for example, particularly where whistling screen faults are concerned. does t-mobile or orange win out here?
I know the O2 asis rom is supposed to be quite nice but are people finding MDA III from tmobile or M2000 orange more reliable out of the box for example. are tmobile slow at software releases, are orange, who's tend to be better?
I've decided on a blue angel over a IIi but nothing hurts to poll for a bit of opinion and see which Blue Angel has advantages over other types. I've read the wiki and while I found upgrading my XDA 1 and cooking rom's for it doable, I don't feel confident thus far at repeating the feat on the Blue angel so am looking at an off the shelf blue one for now.
can people give me a precis of their experience here that allows me to make an informed choice.
thanks
I've always found Orange to be the best provider, last time I was with them they actually have people at the other end of the telephone who want to help. They also didn't charge you for calling customer services (which I just found out T-Mobile do. Cheeky bastards).
I'd avoid O2 if possible, but I think all mobile phone operators suck, so I'd get it from whoever has the cheapest handset/plan for you.
Upgrading the ROM means all the phones are the same.
Chris
I've had XDA and XDAII from O2 and CS was OK when you actually spoke to someone who knew anything about the XDA models. Billing was an absolute nightmare though!
I've had MDAIII from T-Mobile since last October. Customer services are very helpful (and Free). CS have spent hours on the phone with me when I've been trying to sort out problems with unsupported upgrades from the internet and have even phoned me back on a landline so we could tinker with the MDAIII and talk at the same time.
The device is very stable out of the box. Only upgrade so far has included the Blackberry client which I use constantly and it only costs £10/month for 50mb of data. They have crappy GPRS tariffs though.
I've got Orange C500 and never had any problems with CS, but then I've never really had any problems with the C500.
I think Orange is the best provider, the support is excellent, plus if you look at the orange developer site you can see whats happening.
But I bought the O2 XDA IIs (for the black) and unlocked it. I now run the i-mate 1.40 ROM on it, with the O2 Plus add-on.

Mda Compact III

Can someone tell me if the T-Mobile MDA Compact III is wi-fi.
I notice from other forums which state that this version is not wi-fi enabled
Shouldn't be too difficult to edit the registry settings.
Buzz, Maimach We need you, Help !!!
Doesn't look like it, it isn't mentioned in the manual.
Connectivity options for Artemis : GPS, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, GPRS/GSM, Infrared, USB, EDGE
lmf_slacker said:
Connectivity options for Artemis : GPS, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, GPRS/GSM, Infrared, USB, EDGE
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Well.. If you look at the review from MoDaCo, it is stated that theres no IRDA.
Apparantly CnetAsia says it has IRDA...
Kinda fishy...
hmm yah to believe who then... different version launched in different countries? some with some not?!
jonboy8841 said:
Can someone tell me if the T-Mobile MDA Compact III is wi-fi.
I notice from other forums which state that this version is not wi-fi enabled
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T-Mobile MDA Compact III Netherlands € 29,95 with 2 year contract
- Wifi
- GPS
- Radio incl. RDS
- incl. 1 GB micro sd card
- incl. Bluetrek S21 bluetooth headset
No infrared
No TomTom
Self installed TomTom 6 works fine. GSM radio works better then MDA compact I. Bluetooth works better then MDA compact I.
Speed is slowish but I don't play Quake 4 on it...
Rom versie: 1.13.114.1 NLD
Rom Datum: 9/22/06
Radioversie: 02.49.90
Protocolversie: 4.1.13.25
Modelnr: ARTE110
Platform: PocketPC
HI,
T-Mobile Austria had the same wrong specs on their page.
The Mda compact III has no Wlan. This device is called HTC Hero AFAIK.
The HTC Artemis has Wlan (I think that O2 will sell this device)
Greez, Guenne
Mda Compact Iii Connectivity Zero Out Of Ten !!!
Whats the point ?
no 3g no wi-fi.
Ok so its got bluetooth but so have many 50 quid pay as you go handsets too !!
Big deal its a neat size and built in gps receiver but its lack of connectivity
Surely a step <<<<<<<<<BACKWARDS <<<<<<<<<<< !!!!
WiFI enabled Artemis:
settings-->device information-->Identity--> Model Number:
ARTE100
Bman said:
T-Mobile MDA Compact III Netherlands € 29,95 with 2 year contract
- Wifi
- GPS
- Radio incl. RDS
- incl. 1 GB micro sd card
- incl. Bluetrek S21 bluetooth headset
No infrared
No TomTom
Self installed TomTom 6 works fine. GSM radio works better then MDA compact I. Bluetooth works better then MDA compact I.
Speed is slowish but I don't play Quake 4 on it...
I ordered yesterday with TomTom6 (Benelux) for 109,95 and first 4 months 50% on contract
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The HTC p3300 has Wi-Fi standard onboard. Local telecom providers however, are able to choose if they want features like Wi-Fi enabled or disabled. T-mobile Germany decided to sell the MDA Compact III with WiFi disabled (maybe to boost the GPRS usage?). T-mobile The Netherlands decided to let the Wi-Fi feature enabled.
I have a dutch T-mobile MDA Compact III, Model nr. ARTE110, that has WiFi enabled. Bought it btw for EUR 209,- + 15,75 monthly fee, which makes EUR 398,- in total .
Maybe the WiFi feature can be enabled/disabled by tweaking the registry or using another ROM?
And does anyone have suggestions how to unlock it?
hi rjs_artemis,
can you give a link to a website where you bought it? is this offer also available for non netherlands residents? I am living in Belgium so that I might go to Maastricht and check that wisely
Greets
EDIT: Btw is the t-mobile in the neths in Dutch or English? regards
EDIT2: is it locked on t-mobile or unlocked?
chrysaor said:
hi rjs_artemis,
can you give a link to a website where you bought it? is this offer also available for non netherlands residents? I am living in Belgium so that I might go to Maastricht and check that wisely
Greets
EDIT: Btw is the t-mobile in the neths in Dutch or English? regards
EDIT2: is it locked on t-mobile or unlocked?
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I bought it at the T-mobile Online Shop, see here
other option is http://www.smartphonestunts.nl/index.php?tid=181
And yes it has a Dutch WM5 and it is locked.
As mentionned on the following link https://www.t-mobile.nl/persoonlijk...ab=Relax&ratePlanId=269&contractPeriodId=1030
the price of the phone shall be 239.95€ with a 15.75€ flex t-mobile abonnement and not 209,- like you mentionned. Therefore the total price reaches 428.95€ and not 398,-, reason why I asked you where you bought it.
Anyway price is still attractive but if you tell me the device is locked on t-mob neth, it doesn't worth one penny for my own.
Regards
btw for the old fellahs in here, do you know if pdaphones might be phisically unlocked like mobiles? I think it could be done but need confo
would be a nice opportunity then
T-Mobile MDA III
I had a reply from T-Mobile UK yesterday saying the UK release will not have Wifi.
However I read that the Wifi is all on board on the main Chip
Texas Instruments OMAP 850
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a850
If thats the case then would another ROM not re-enable it?
Or do you recon it's a custom Hardware?
I'd like to stay with T-Mobile for Web'n'Walk but If i cant have the Wifi I'll go elsewhere
O2 I think is due to release the Orbit 27th Nov.
Might wait for that as I assume the package will be better that the ones Expansys is offering on O2 or vodafone with an HTC branded unit.
chrysaor said:
As mentionned on the following link https://www.t-mobile.nl/persoonlijk...ab=Relax&ratePlanId=269&contractPeriodId=1030
the price of the phone shall be 239.95€ with a 15.75€ flex t-mobile abonnement and not 209,- like you mentionned. Therefore the total price reaches 428.95€ and not 398,-, reason why I asked you where you bought it.
Anyway price is still attractive but if you tell me the device is locked on t-mob neth, it doesn't worth one penny for my own.
Regards
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We are both right. T-mobile raised their prices for the MDA Compact III at the Online Shop. I ordered it last friday (03-11) for 209,-. On tuesday they raised prices with 30,95, so now it's 239,95 with a 15,75 contract.
Unlocking will be possible very soon. For example see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-282156.html
aye sounds promising
I'll wait before buying until I have some confo about that..
still the question of keef related to the wifi is really interesting... if any has made some tests on an uk or dutch t-mobile version..
T-Mobile Mda Compact 3
Ref Wi-Fi embedded in chip !!
Hi Guys
I have tried to perform a rom update on my Mda Compact 3 using the HTC P3300 latest rom but the compact was having none of it.
It appears to 'drop out' after 3 per cent stating 'incorrect device'.
This is not the usual "incorrect vendor id" so I guess updating with a wi-fi enabled rom is not possible
Why have T-Mobile skimped on this essential feature is beyond me !!!
Keef said:
I had a reply from T-Mobile UK yesterday saying the UK release will not have Wifi.
However I read that the Wifi is all on board on the main Chip
Texas Instruments OMAP 850
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a850
If thats the case then would another ROM not re-enable it?
Or do you recon it's a custom Hardware?
I'd like to stay with T-Mobile for Web'n'Walk but If i cant have the Wifi I'll go elsewhere
O2 I think is due to release the Orbit 27th Nov.
Might wait for that as I assume the package will be better that the ones Expansys is offering on O2 or vodafone with an HTC branded unit.
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It has wifi I suppose
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/Dispatche...phones_ews_overview&menuid=ctl_phones_details
Quote from that link
"All-rounder
The MDA Compact III is a fantastic all-rounder. It’s a dedicated navigation PDA with GPS and TomTom Navigator 6 software preinstalled. It runs on the powerful Windows 5.0 operating system. The Compact III is very user friendly as it has a mouse. Control the cursor with the miniature trackball and use its silver dial as a scroll wheel. Keeping up with your emails is simple and you can surf the internet with web‘n’walk. It has128 MB of internal memory and a microSD card slot for expansion, plus a two mega-pixel digital camera with zoom, flash LED and video capture, an MP3 player, FM radio, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and USB cable connectivity."

WIFI => HTC P3300 variant (MDA iii Compact)

Hi all,
Firstly, I think this is an excellent phone!
I have the T-Mobile variant (MDA compact 3) but I was gutted today when I found out that T-Mobile de-activated WIFI on it.
Apparently it can be activated ... is there any truth to this? Is there any way to get WIFI working on this phone? Are there any firmware upgrades or similar available?
Thanks alot,
Porac69
It is an excellent device, if you need/ want WiFi send it back and get an Orbit from O2 or buy a HTC Artemis P3300. The MDA-CIII does NOT have WiFi on board and cannot be activated, the O2 Orbit and OEM HTC units both have WiFi and work.
As a tip posting the same question four times in the forums will only get you the same answer four times, it won't work - Mike
thanks for your reply.
I posted it four times becuase not everyone reads the same section of the forums and the sections I posted them in are all relevant to this subject.
Why no wifi???
Yesterday I was seriously considering a flext contract and selecting the Compact III as my phone. Until I read this thread and discovered no wifi.
Wonder why they exclude wifi?
a340 said:
Yesterday I was seriously considering a flext contract and selecting the Compact III as my phone. Until I read this thread and discovered no wifi.
Wonder why they exclude wifi?
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euhm... how about calling with skype through wi-fi spots?
don't think t-mobile likes that
Notorious said:
euhm... how about calling with skype through wi-fi spots?
don't think t-mobile likes that
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O2 don't seem to be worried about people making calls via skype using their Orbit. You make a good point actually. T-mobile have popular web & walk tariffs and offering wifi on the Artemis could possibly affect that side of the business.
Shame really....much prefer a T-mobile tariff rather than O2. On a related note......anybody know if Orange will be offering this? I know the Trinity (spv m700) will have gps too so perhaps they won't want an overlap with 2 models.
It is probably true, that T-Mobile wants to push their Web'n'Walk Technology, but on the other hand disabling WiFi seems rather unlogical if your company is the biggest HotSpot Provider in Germany. Maybe they just want to push the selling of "Higher" and more expensive T-Mobile MDAs, like the Vario II. This company politics just don't make sense to me...I can live very well without WiFi, but it would be nice having it sometimes.

Orbit and Windows Mobile 6

Hi I am due an upgrade from O2 and I ama a .net developer by trade and would like to be able to develop for the new choice of XDA I am due to make.
I currently have and XDAIIi runing PPC2003SE and have been looking at the XDA Orbit as it has GPS and is a very nice device. My concern is that when I purchased my XDAIIi I had been waiting for the Exec but O2 kept putting it off and I changed and then 4-6 weeks later the Exec came out so I missed out on Mobile 5 and developing against .Net 2 for it.
My concern now is that with Mobile 6 being out that the Orbit is not a WM6 device and previously there has been no official way of porting my XDAIIi on to WM5. Am I going to be in the same situation with the Orbit? Have O2 mentioned an upgrade to WM6? Would it be available to new customers only, i.e. on phones offered after the upgrade released, or if I were to upgrade now would I be elligible for any potential upgrade? Tempted to wait a little longer...
Anyone have any knowledge/advice on this?
Thanks
Andrew
no official news yet - more discussion in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290039
I work for o2 and have asked but have heard nothing, I am going to go with no for free upgrades to WM6 as o2 have never done free system upgrades, I also read somewhere that HTC have indicated they will not be giving free OS upgrades to existing customers, one will have to buy new devices if we want the new OS
Hi thanks for the replies, guess I'll just sit tight a bit longer and see how things pan out.
hi amino: i have heard that O2 are offering unlimited data tariff's for £10 pcm, is this true? I have spoken to CS and they don't know.
no...at least not to my knowledge ! o2 is the worst offering for Data, atm there is a huge internal thread on the work forum on how bad it is and how we all feel that o2 needs to pull their finger out and look at what they are doing data wise as its exceptionally poor
gavinlew said:
hi amino: i have heard that O2 are offering unlimited data tariff's for £10 pcm, is this true? I have spoken to CS and they don't know.
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Don't count on any CS
If you want unlimited data (well... almost) go for T-Mobile Web'n'Walk tarrif. I know most ppl complain about lack of WiFi in the MDA C3 but having it with (1GB/mnth) internet I don't need to look for any WiFi spots. So far the best deal I have ever made on any tarrif/phone.
(I don't work for them )
Adigital said:
Don't count on any CS
If you want unlimited data (well... almost) go for T-Mobile Web'n'Walk tarrif. I know most ppl complain about lack of WiFi in the MDA C3 but having it with (1GB/mnth) internet I don't need to look for any WiFi spots. So far the best deal I have ever made on any tarrif/phone.
(I don't work for them )
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yep i totally agree with Adigital. Was one of the main reason why i went for MDA C3 rather than wait for the O2 Orbit. WiFi wasnt a big need for me. 1Gb is more than enough for me checking email, browse websites will on bus/train to uni and even go on msn. sometimes i leave it on for a good few hours, and doesnt really take up much data. i would def recommend the T-Mobile data package Web'n'Walk for anyone who wants to check email on the go almost any where at any time!

Wifi On T Mobile Mda 3

hi guys is it possible to activate/ add wifi to tmobile mda3. shame it does not come with one.
NO as the hardware isn't fitted, if you want WiFi go and get an XDA Orbit or HTC Artemis P3300 which is suitably equipped, T-Mobile dropped the functionalty to force you to use the GPRS internet connection (at a cost) - Mike
except for t-mo nl as i remember, they have wifi hw. btw next time use search button, there are at least 3 threads about this
Correct the Dutch units do have WiFi but the UK ones do not. As for only three threads on this topic, someone must havebeen deleting them as I can remember at least thirty - Mike

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