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T-mobile Artemis in the Netherlands

As of yesterday the Artemis is on the T-mobile site in Holland. I called customer service and they told me they have them in stock. I will order it next week!
The Dutch T-mobile version differs from the German, it will be released with:
WIFI, UMTS and HSPDA according to the internetsite and they even talk about infrared. But without TomTom (6) They could not tell me wether a FM radio is integrated.
Just wanted you all to know. Here is the link
h**ps://www.t-mobile.nl/persoonlijk/htdocs/page/shopping/product/productdetails.aspx?vid=ResidentialProductSmartphoneDetails&ProductId=2677&tab=1

Forgive my lameness but I do not see mentionned anywhere the device supports hspda nor UMTS (it shall be supporting EDGE though even it is not mentionned on your link).
https://www.t-mobile.nl/persoonlijk...ProductSmartphoneDetails&ProductId=2677&tab=1
Greets

As stated from the site:
Afmetingen: 113 x 58 x 22 mm
Gewicht: 176 gram
Sorry i do not understand dutch, but I think the correct dimensions are as follows:
108 x 58 x 16.8
128g
Those using it now.. pls confirm. Thanks!

chrysaor said:
Forgive my lameness but I do not see mentionned anywhere the device supports hspda nor UMTS (it shall be supporting EDGE though even it is not mentionned on your link).
https://www.t-mobile.nl/persoonlijk...ProductSmartphoneDetails&ProductId=2677&tab=1
Greets
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When I visited the site last Sunday HSPDA and UMTS was mentioned. They probably updated the specs.

MasK said:
but I think the correct dimensions are as follows:
108 x 58 x 16.8
128g
Those using it now.. pls confirm. Thanks!
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Correct the dimensions you have listed match the device but the weight is 130g (with Battery) - whats 2g though! - Mike

I ordered the MDA Compact III at T-mobile
For the Dutch viewers:
- 2 year contract Flex 20
- 50% discount first 4 months
- free bleutouth headset
- and! TOMTOM6 (with or without maps is still unclear)
Price 109,95 for the device (249,95 with 1 year contract Flex 20)
Untill know they did not sell with TT6
FYI

vdv said:
I ordered the MDA Compact III at T-mobile
For the Dutch viewers:
- 2 year contract Flex 20
- 50% discount first 4 months
- free bleutouth headset
- and! TOMTOM6 (with or without maps is still unclear)
Price 109,95 for the device (249,95 with 1 year contract Flex 20)
Untill know they did not sell with TT6
FYI
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Is it a new contract or a renewal?
Also, how did you place your order? Website/callcenter..
I am also in the Netherlands, and interested in this phone..
But, prices on the t-mobile website seem to be higher than yours..
Thanks..

These conditions are for a renewal. I placed the order at the call-center. They told me they have better offers then the ones on the website and in the shops, because they have less overheadcosts etc.
When I ordered the free BT-headset was mentioned on the website as well, but couldn't find it anymore today. It seems they change there offers daily.
In other forums poeple today are talking about 29,95 for the device with a 2 year contract, no matter wich contract (but no TT6 with maps of Benelux and no BT headset)
So call the klantenservice
(btw I'm still waiting for a written confirmation)

Thanks. I'll give a call and try to get a good deal..

u have such cheap n affordable handsets price in your country, totally different from my country, even with plan it can/might cost around euro600

Today I've got the written acknowledgement from T-mobile.
Surprisingly it didn't say anything about TomTom6. I called them and they told met they made a mistake, altough they confirmed it to me sevral times by phone. TT6 is being sold with the MDA vario only and not with the Compact III.
I wrote them an e-mail where a stated they have to deliver what was agreed.
Let me know when you are interested in the outcom (probably dome where next week)

Well, paid a visit to a Tmob shop yesterday.
Price for Flex30-1 year is 209 Euros, same as their web shop and not very cheap.
So, I decided to wait for a week or two to see if Trinity indeed comes out with an integtared GPS as speculated in various forums..
So, at stand by for now...
BTW, are you happy with your unit? Any problems so far?
And how is the internet connection speed if you've got web n' walk?
Thanks..

MDA Compact III / ARTE110 / Wi-Fi / Registry Settings
Hoi Hoi,
is somebody out there who owns a MDA Compact III / ARTE110 with Wi-Fi enabled and who is able to post the registry settings for all the Wi-Fi / WLAN stuff ?
see Thread "Mda Compact III" page 3 for details.
I would like to enable Wi-Fi on my MDA Compact III / ARTE110 where it is disabled.

MDA Compact III / ARTE110 / Wi-Fi / Registry Settings
Support required from those who have Wi-Fi enabled:
Is somebody out there who owns a MDA Compact III / ARTE110 with Wi-Fi enabled and who is able to post the registry settings for all the Wi-Fi / WLAN stuff (see below) ?
HKLM\Drivers\SDCARD\ClientDrivers\Custom\MANF-0001-CARDID-0000-FUNC-1
HKLM\Comm\TNETWLN
HKLM\Comm\TNETWLN1
HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\HTCCPL
HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\HTCCPL [TotalApplets]
HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager [SupportedFunctions]
HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager\2 [Default]
HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager\3 [Default]
HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager\4 [Default]
HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager\5 [Default]
HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager\6 [Default]
HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\HTCCPL\Applet10
HKLM\ControlPanel\Wireless LAN
HKLM\Services\App
HKLM\Services\App\Tasks
HKLM\Services\App\Tasks\DisableProxy
HKLM\Services\App\Tasks\KeyIndicator
HKLM\Services\App\Tasks\CallRejectMsg
and the reference of WiFiInit.lnk

Mda Compact III

Can someone tell me if the T-Mobile MDA Compact III is wi-fi.
I notice from other forums which state that this version is not wi-fi enabled
Shouldn't be too difficult to edit the registry settings.
Buzz, Maimach We need you, Help !!!

Doesn't look like it, it isn't mentioned in the manual.

Connectivity options for Artemis : GPS, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, GPRS/GSM, Infrared, USB, EDGE

lmf_slacker said:
Connectivity options for Artemis : GPS, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, GPRS/GSM, Infrared, USB, EDGE
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Well.. If you look at the review from MoDaCo, it is stated that theres no IRDA.
Apparantly CnetAsia says it has IRDA...
Kinda fishy...

hmm yah to believe who then... different version launched in different countries? some with some not?!

jonboy8841 said:
Can someone tell me if the T-Mobile MDA Compact III is wi-fi.
I notice from other forums which state that this version is not wi-fi enabled
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T-Mobile MDA Compact III Netherlands € 29,95 with 2 year contract
- Wifi
- GPS
- Radio incl. RDS
- incl. 1 GB micro sd card
- incl. Bluetrek S21 bluetooth headset
No infrared
No TomTom
Self installed TomTom 6 works fine. GSM radio works better then MDA compact I. Bluetooth works better then MDA compact I.
Speed is slowish but I don't play Quake 4 on it...
Rom versie: 1.13.114.1 NLD
Rom Datum: 9/22/06
Radioversie: 02.49.90
Protocolversie: 4.1.13.25
Modelnr: ARTE110
Platform: PocketPC

HI,
T-Mobile Austria had the same wrong specs on their page.
The Mda compact III has no Wlan. This device is called HTC Hero AFAIK.
The HTC Artemis has Wlan (I think that O2 will sell this device)
Greez, Guenne

Mda Compact Iii Connectivity Zero Out Of Ten !!!
Whats the point ?
no 3g no wi-fi.
Ok so its got bluetooth but so have many 50 quid pay as you go handsets too !!
Big deal its a neat size and built in gps receiver but its lack of connectivity
Surely a step <<<<<<<<<BACKWARDS <<<<<<<<<<< !!!!

WiFI enabled Artemis:
settings-->device information-->Identity--> Model Number:
ARTE100

Bman said:
T-Mobile MDA Compact III Netherlands € 29,95 with 2 year contract
- Wifi
- GPS
- Radio incl. RDS
- incl. 1 GB micro sd card
- incl. Bluetrek S21 bluetooth headset
No infrared
No TomTom
Self installed TomTom 6 works fine. GSM radio works better then MDA compact I. Bluetooth works better then MDA compact I.
Speed is slowish but I don't play Quake 4 on it...
I ordered yesterday with TomTom6 (Benelux) for 109,95 and first 4 months 50% on contract
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The HTC p3300 has Wi-Fi standard onboard. Local telecom providers however, are able to choose if they want features like Wi-Fi enabled or disabled. T-mobile Germany decided to sell the MDA Compact III with WiFi disabled (maybe to boost the GPRS usage?). T-mobile The Netherlands decided to let the Wi-Fi feature enabled.
I have a dutch T-mobile MDA Compact III, Model nr. ARTE110, that has WiFi enabled. Bought it btw for EUR 209,- + 15,75 monthly fee, which makes EUR 398,- in total .
Maybe the WiFi feature can be enabled/disabled by tweaking the registry or using another ROM?
And does anyone have suggestions how to unlock it?

hi rjs_artemis,
can you give a link to a website where you bought it? is this offer also available for non netherlands residents? I am living in Belgium so that I might go to Maastricht and check that wisely
Greets
EDIT: Btw is the t-mobile in the neths in Dutch or English? regards
EDIT2: is it locked on t-mobile or unlocked?

chrysaor said:
hi rjs_artemis,
can you give a link to a website where you bought it? is this offer also available for non netherlands residents? I am living in Belgium so that I might go to Maastricht and check that wisely
Greets
EDIT: Btw is the t-mobile in the neths in Dutch or English? regards
EDIT2: is it locked on t-mobile or unlocked?
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I bought it at the T-mobile Online Shop, see here
other option is http://www.smartphonestunts.nl/index.php?tid=181
And yes it has a Dutch WM5 and it is locked.

As mentionned on the following link https://www.t-mobile.nl/persoonlijk...ab=Relax&ratePlanId=269&contractPeriodId=1030
the price of the phone shall be 239.95€ with a 15.75€ flex t-mobile abonnement and not 209,- like you mentionned. Therefore the total price reaches 428.95€ and not 398,-, reason why I asked you where you bought it.
Anyway price is still attractive but if you tell me the device is locked on t-mob neth, it doesn't worth one penny for my own.
Regards

btw for the old fellahs in here, do you know if pdaphones might be phisically unlocked like mobiles? I think it could be done but need confo
would be a nice opportunity then

T-Mobile MDA III
I had a reply from T-Mobile UK yesterday saying the UK release will not have Wifi.
However I read that the Wifi is all on board on the main Chip
Texas Instruments OMAP 850
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a850
If thats the case then would another ROM not re-enable it?
Or do you recon it's a custom Hardware?
I'd like to stay with T-Mobile for Web'n'Walk but If i cant have the Wifi I'll go elsewhere
O2 I think is due to release the Orbit 27th Nov.
Might wait for that as I assume the package will be better that the ones Expansys is offering on O2 or vodafone with an HTC branded unit.

chrysaor said:
As mentionned on the following link https://www.t-mobile.nl/persoonlijk...ab=Relax&ratePlanId=269&contractPeriodId=1030
the price of the phone shall be 239.95€ with a 15.75€ flex t-mobile abonnement and not 209,- like you mentionned. Therefore the total price reaches 428.95€ and not 398,-, reason why I asked you where you bought it.
Anyway price is still attractive but if you tell me the device is locked on t-mob neth, it doesn't worth one penny for my own.
Regards
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We are both right. T-mobile raised their prices for the MDA Compact III at the Online Shop. I ordered it last friday (03-11) for 209,-. On tuesday they raised prices with 30,95, so now it's 239,95 with a 15,75 contract.
Unlocking will be possible very soon. For example see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-282156.html

aye sounds promising
I'll wait before buying until I have some confo about that..
still the question of keef related to the wifi is really interesting... if any has made some tests on an uk or dutch t-mobile version..

T-Mobile Mda Compact 3
Ref Wi-Fi embedded in chip !!
Hi Guys
I have tried to perform a rom update on my Mda Compact 3 using the HTC P3300 latest rom but the compact was having none of it.
It appears to 'drop out' after 3 per cent stating 'incorrect device'.
This is not the usual "incorrect vendor id" so I guess updating with a wi-fi enabled rom is not possible
Why have T-Mobile skimped on this essential feature is beyond me !!!

Keef said:
I had a reply from T-Mobile UK yesterday saying the UK release will not have Wifi.
However I read that the Wifi is all on board on the main Chip
Texas Instruments OMAP 850
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a850
If thats the case then would another ROM not re-enable it?
Or do you recon it's a custom Hardware?
I'd like to stay with T-Mobile for Web'n'Walk but If i cant have the Wifi I'll go elsewhere
O2 I think is due to release the Orbit 27th Nov.
Might wait for that as I assume the package will be better that the ones Expansys is offering on O2 or vodafone with an HTC branded unit.
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It has wifi I suppose
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/Dispatche...phones_ews_overview&menuid=ctl_phones_details
Quote from that link
"All-rounder
The MDA Compact III is a fantastic all-rounder. It’s a dedicated navigation PDA with GPS and TomTom Navigator 6 software preinstalled. It runs on the powerful Windows 5.0 operating system. The Compact III is very user friendly as it has a mouse. Control the cursor with the miniature trackball and use its silver dial as a scroll wheel. Keeping up with your emails is simple and you can surf the internet with web‘n’walk. It has128 MB of internal memory and a microSD card slot for expansion, plus a two mega-pixel digital camera with zoom, flash LED and video capture, an MP3 player, FM radio, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and USB cable connectivity."

O2 XDA Orbit Coming Soon

Might be old news, but XDA Orbit has finally appeared on the O2 UK website
https://shop.o2.co.uk/ComingSoon
I'll certainly be looking to buy one!!

XDA Orbit
I spoke to O2 customer services at the end of last month and they told me that it would be available in November. I was a little skeptical and bought the P3300 from Expansys on O2 as they're not offering the Trion yet. From past experience I wouldn't count on it.

I should have waited for the o2 version, been a big fan since my EXEC. Although I was under the impression that o2's relationship with HTC ended along with i-mates. Very happy to see a HTC phone coming from o2, but I wonder will there be more to come?

Long live ASUS
I believe the HTC relationship has been closed off (with regard to new handsets).
Expect new handsets to come from ASUS (i.e. ZInc, Graphite, etc.) due in Jan.

Apparently someone in O2 Customer Service said that their spanky looking Artemis version was being released on the 27th of this month.

27th release date is correct.
Cheers
LB

Lord Buckingham said:
27th release date is correct.
Cheers
LB
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Dude, Do ya know if this device is meant for the Asia market or not?
Coz I remembered here in Singapore, we had Dopod 818Pro instead of the Neo... which means to say only 1 brand will appear here, and that is Dopod.

Can only talk for UK, Germany, and Ireland, i suspect it will not be seen in Asia.
Regards
LB

With reference to this Orbit review:
http://www.4winmobile.com/viewtopic.php?p=42938
There are 2 things that I'm puzzled:
1) Infrared Gate: IrDA 1.2, 115200bit/s (SIR/CIR)
I thought the Artemis doesn't have Irda? Is there a mistake in the review?
2) Bluetooth: Bluetooth 1.2
Pretty much everywhere else says its got BT2.0. This review mention that it has BT1.2.
WiFi support is present for both 802.11b and 802.11g connectivity, but unfortunately Bluetooth is still the older 1.2 specification and not the hoped for 2.0 which supports A2DP, etc.
That said Bluetooth connections to the Jabra BT500 headset have been clear and voice dialing is supported and works well.
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LB, have ya tried A2DP on this device yet?
Thanks!

MasK,
Yes I have but only with the Samsung SBH 170 headset and it appears to work OK if a little limited in range.
Cheers
LB

launch date
I think this is always the same with a new hardset from O2 but i've just got off the phone with o2 select support and they reckon it's not out till after Christmas :-(

The O2 website is saying its this month.
https://shop.o2.co.uk/ComingSoon
Worth noting though that different service providers within O2 will choose to stock it at different times, so maybe Select are next year.

the O2 Orbit would most probably be released in other parts of the world except asia coz its released bt Dopod instead

LB,
I know this sounds crazy.. but does the device have glabal warranty?
Secondly, do ya think it's available in the Netherlands? It does seem better looking and more sophisticated compared to the stock Artemis, and I'm wondering what my chances are in getting that into Asia. Thanks!

MasK,
The warranty will be valid if purchased from O2, i guess you are asking whether you can get it repaired if you take it outside the UK? I am not aware of any plans to sell the device in the Netherlands, alough it will be available in Germany.
Cheers
LB

So if O2 don't release on the 27th (this month), the same way I've moved last year from Orange I can move this year to T-Mobile which have the MDA III.
Didn't quite like the phone signal on the Exec anyway...but if they do release...and they have a similar price as T-Mobile, then it isn't worth the hassle. Can't wait till after Christmas...can you?

Well.. It's not abt waiting. In fact, I'm quite confident the new HTC devices (at least the Artemis) is gonna be released by end of this month during an IT exhibition. The thing is, the Orbit looks nicer than the original Artemis. It'll be real nice to have one here for the sake of uniqueness

Well, I in fact like the original as it's a bit...square.

Grogo said:
Well, I in fact like the original as it's a bit...square.
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Hmm.. yeah.. I do like squary designs.
It just seems that the Orbit has a better colour combination (something the Atom should have int he first place, instead of making it all black!)
Anyways, design-wise.. the Artemis is definitely better than the trinity, imho. At least they got out of the magician/prophet form factor.

wertert said:
I think this is always the same with a new hardset from O2 but i've just got off the phone with o2 select support and they reckon it's not out till after Christmas :-(
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Hi everyone!
I've just had my O2 customer services representative on the phone to confirm that next week I will have the XDA Orbit delivered to my office, so it seems that this time they have done they homework...
Can't wait to play with it!

Are T-Mobile lying to me?

I am about to purchase the XDA Orbit or Orange M700 or the T-Mobile MDA Compact iii. I am trying to get the best deal...Is there anyway to switch on the MDA'S WLAN?
Orange- Phone FREE. £35/[email protected] months. 200 Mins & 300 txts PLUS unlimited weekend texts. No satnav software and the WLAN is there!!
02- (Who I am with now tried to better orange's offer) Phone FREE. £30/[email protected] 18 months!! 400 mins & 750 texta. No satnav software and the wireless lans there.
T-Mobile - (They know both Orange's & 02's offer but didnt make an offer) Web and walk flext. £37.50/[email protected] 18 months (With the option to cancel the web and walk at anytime as well as downgrade to a cheaper contract after 6 months) £180 allowence on my account per a month, plus 1GB of internet access (They say unlimited but thats a lie due to fair use policy etc etc) No satnav software or Wireless Lan (The guy said a firmware update is comming which will switch it on!??)
HELP ME PLEASSEE!

Why you're boring us with questions to WLAN on MDAcIII?
There are thousends and thousands of threads concerning this question.

For what its worth, from a MDA III owner go with the XDA Orbit.
The spv m700 is HTC Trinity. Orange sell the Artemis as spv m650 but is it available in the UK?
As for the wifi on the MDA III.....do not think it will take a simple update to switch it on. I believe the hardware is simply not there to begin with. Why would T-mobile say an update is coming which will activate the wifi ?! Looks like they are offering flext 35 + web n walk. Personally, hate to be locked in an 18 month contract with any provider. I am on flext 35 with a 12 month plan, my monthly allowance is only £120.
The lack of wifi is not too bad if you have web n walk. Yes there is a fair usage policy, it is still best gprs tariff in the UK. They don't like you using msn, skype etc.
You will have it all with the Orbit. Gps, Wifi, bluetooth and phone!

The T-Mobile devise does not contain the WiFi hardware so if T-Mobile told you a firmware update will switch it on he is lying - there is NOTHING THERE to be switched on!
I have the T-Mob unit and with the Web-n-Walk I can use the internet without a problem, you would have to be online nearly 24/7 to use up your 1GB per month (and there is another tarrif for 3GB per month IIRC).
I also have the HTC P3300 Artemis which does have WiFi, but unless the connection is free I tend to use the T-Mob unit. If WiFi is so important to you get the O2 Orbit or buy a P3300 unit, they are available from some suppliers tied to contracts which is a cheaper way to purchase it.
For me the clincher for the HTC P3300 Artemis was the abscence of the crappy O2 Active Interface software that can mess up otherwise perfectly usable good hardware, the HTC unit is to all intents and purposes the same as the Orbit, minus the XDA logo and its a nicer colour IMHO - Mike

You can always get the HTC P3300 and then go with any provider you want so you are not stuck with their built in bs.

One thing to watch out for is the possible difference in screens between the orange and o2 versions? I had the Orange M600 and was very happy with it unitl I put it beside an iMate Jamin - the Jamin's screen was much whiter and brighter even at lower backlight settings.
I now have the Orbit and the screen is also very bright white. However, I have not compared it to the Orange version but it may be worth doing so...

I don't regret the MDA CIII one bit, my previous Universal had wi-fi and in my usage habits, I never got to turn it on once, I wasn't hunting out hotspots, I wanted data on demand, and via O2 that was quite pricey.
So T-Mobile does not have wi-fi on their Artemis based device, instead they have GPRS bundles that can't even be closely matched by the other networks.
When making the choice, you need to ask yourself how you will use it. Sure if most of your data use is around Wi-Fi hotspots, then the MDA compact III is not for you, but if like me and you need data in a clients house, at a meeting or in the middle of a field then Web and Walk is your friend.
If only it was at 3.5g speeds!!!

All I wanted was a T-Mobile sim for cheaper GPRS when I switched provider (O2 really need to sort out their prices). In the shop I was offered the C-III for free so I took it!
Put the T-Mob sim in the Universal and enjoy the 3G speed (if you still have the device) - it simply flys along well worth trying, but my Uni is a brick in comparison to the Artemis devices - Mike

Orbit and Windows Mobile 6

Hi I am due an upgrade from O2 and I ama a .net developer by trade and would like to be able to develop for the new choice of XDA I am due to make.
I currently have and XDAIIi runing PPC2003SE and have been looking at the XDA Orbit as it has GPS and is a very nice device. My concern is that when I purchased my XDAIIi I had been waiting for the Exec but O2 kept putting it off and I changed and then 4-6 weeks later the Exec came out so I missed out on Mobile 5 and developing against .Net 2 for it.
My concern now is that with Mobile 6 being out that the Orbit is not a WM6 device and previously there has been no official way of porting my XDAIIi on to WM5. Am I going to be in the same situation with the Orbit? Have O2 mentioned an upgrade to WM6? Would it be available to new customers only, i.e. on phones offered after the upgrade released, or if I were to upgrade now would I be elligible for any potential upgrade? Tempted to wait a little longer...
Anyone have any knowledge/advice on this?
Thanks
Andrew

no official news yet - more discussion in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290039

I work for o2 and have asked but have heard nothing, I am going to go with no for free upgrades to WM6 as o2 have never done free system upgrades, I also read somewhere that HTC have indicated they will not be giving free OS upgrades to existing customers, one will have to buy new devices if we want the new OS

Hi thanks for the replies, guess I'll just sit tight a bit longer and see how things pan out.

hi amino: i have heard that O2 are offering unlimited data tariff's for £10 pcm, is this true? I have spoken to CS and they don't know.

no...at least not to my knowledge ! o2 is the worst offering for Data, atm there is a huge internal thread on the work forum on how bad it is and how we all feel that o2 needs to pull their finger out and look at what they are doing data wise as its exceptionally poor

gavinlew said:
hi amino: i have heard that O2 are offering unlimited data tariff's for £10 pcm, is this true? I have spoken to CS and they don't know.
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Don't count on any CS
If you want unlimited data (well... almost) go for T-Mobile Web'n'Walk tarrif. I know most ppl complain about lack of WiFi in the MDA C3 but having it with (1GB/mnth) internet I don't need to look for any WiFi spots. So far the best deal I have ever made on any tarrif/phone.
(I don't work for them )

Adigital said:
Don't count on any CS
If you want unlimited data (well... almost) go for T-Mobile Web'n'Walk tarrif. I know most ppl complain about lack of WiFi in the MDA C3 but having it with (1GB/mnth) internet I don't need to look for any WiFi spots. So far the best deal I have ever made on any tarrif/phone.
(I don't work for them )
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yep i totally agree with Adigital. Was one of the main reason why i went for MDA C3 rather than wait for the O2 Orbit. WiFi wasnt a big need for me. 1Gb is more than enough for me checking email, browse websites will on bus/train to uni and even go on msn. sometimes i leave it on for a good few hours, and doesnt really take up much data. i would def recommend the T-Mobile data package Web'n'Walk for anyone who wants to check email on the go almost any where at any time!