Hi guys! I don't know if this thing belongs here, but since I'm an owner of a Blue Angel device, I'll put it here anyway. Is it possible to create a simple device which has the following components:
- An IDE adaptor (don't know if this is the right term, but what I mean is a cable which can be connected to standard HDDs', CDROMs', etc.)
- A power input to provide external power to the HDD or CDROM connected to it.
- A bluetooth radio allowing a device (PDA, cellphone, laptop) which is bluetooth enabled (like my Blue Angel) to connect to it via bluetooth. I think the directory bowsing profile, or network profile should be supported.
The purpose of such a device is to allow my Blue Angel to read CDs' and copy data from hard drives. I know it would mean carrying an extra device, but considering the advantages it would give me (reading CD's and HDD's without the need for a PC) I would surely consider adding it to my gadget bag.
Does such a device exist? If not, is it possible to make something like this?
Sorry, but it can't be done. The Blue Angel's USB port is only a USB Slave port, meaning it only works if plugged into a computer.
I dont think a bluetooth drive adapter exists, but maybe something wireless could be used??
e.g.
http://uk.asus.com/products/communication/wireless/wl-hdd25/overview.htm
Alan
I would also suggest WIFI. Bluetooth is way too slow
Toshiba used to sell a Bluetooth hard drive called the "HopBit". I don't think it was ever sold in the US but Dynamism imported it for a while. It seems to be discontinued though.
Imagine using Wi-Fi for direct connection between your laptop/PPC (and other end devices) to an external hard disk. Imposssible?
Just read this:-
http://www.edslab.com/products.htm
The product will be launched this coming July 06. Initially, it'll connect to your laptop/notebook. After which driver will be developed for PPC application.
No more expensive memory cards :lol:
You can also look at Asus WL-HDD - althogh this one have some advantages, like the battery and 1.8" size.
I just hope it will be released and that the price will not be too much.
RE
If I remembers correctly ASUS WL-HDD requires connection through an access point/router whereas the main selling point of Wi-Drive is its direct connection between end devices WITHOUT the need to go through the access point/router. However, you can also network the drive through an access point/router :lol:
I'm using Wl-Hdd since it's release to get my files from my pda. It's working like a charm. It is an access point and router, and you can make it a full linux server easily
Hi,
Just a question and a thought...
With the WL-HDD, is it stand-alone? i.e. does it have an internal power source - or must be connected via a power adaptor?
And can it connect directly to the HTC Universal (without need of a switch or router?).
My thought is, I wonder if anyone has tried to connect an IPOD to a PPC device? wouldn't that be an ideal external HDD device?
Michael G
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With the WL-HDD, is it stand-alone? i.e. does it have an internal power source - or must be connected via a power adaptor?
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The WL-HDD does not have built in battery, you need power adaptor unfortunately.
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And can it connect directly to the HTC Universal (without need of a switch or router?).
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I haven't tried yet (still deciding if I should buy it or not), but since it's an Access Point it should connect no problem.
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My thought is, I wonder if anyone has tried to connect an IPOD to a PPC device? wouldn't that be an ideal external HDD device?
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IPOD is not Wireless, you can use it only as an USB memory device.
People had connected their IPODS to USB Host enabled PPCs like FS Loox and it worked fine. Unfortunately there are no HTC converged devices with USB Host functionality at the moment.
Wl-hdd work perfectly as a stand alone product with any PPC. I'm using it for 1,5 years now and it is perfectly working on my universal. No physical connection needed except power source.
As for the Ipod, if you change the wl-hdd firmware, you can connect any USB device in the USB port to get access to it's files. So you cannot plug the ipod to the universal, but you can plug the ipod to the wl-hdd then access it through universal
RE
Some pictures of Wi-Drive here:-
http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/13/live-from-cebit-the-widrive-wifi-drive-enclosure/
The enclosure comes with a female connector for the hard disk which means hard disk like the 1.8 inch Toshiba (which comes with a female connector) cannot be used
That leaves us with the 1.8 inch Hitachi brand which comes with a male connector. Not much choice for the 1.8 inch hard disk since currently only 1.8 inch hard disks are only available from Toshiba and Hitachi
RE
Just spoke to the manufacturer of Wi-Drive today
They will release the drive this coming July. I think I can get one from them before it goes to the market
Capacity : Casing comes with 30 and 60 GB 5400 rpm hard disk (for 1.8 inch)
Best of all!! Can connect direct with PPC besides notebook/laptop. They've an engineering test unit. Just waiting for production now.
Here's the explanation using WiFi. The drive will be recognised as a web folder instead of a drive by the PPC. This web folder will consists of your folders and files and you'll have to use IE browser to access them. Power input is 5V DC using mini USB which means you can charge it from your notebook/laptop USB ports or any external battery pack whihc provides a 5V DC output.
WOW!! Can't wait to lay my hand on one of these
at least there responding to someone...
they dont respond at all to any mails from me :?
i dont know if i like the web folder thingy though...
would prefer if it just showed trough the file explorer, does resco explorer show web folders?
did they tell you the prices with the 30 and 60gb and without any HD?
at least there responding to someone...
they dont respond at all to any mails from me :?
i dont know if i like the web folder thingy though...
would prefer if it just showed trough the file explorer, does resco explorer show web folders?
did they tell you the prices with the 30 and 60gb and without any HD?
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"did they tell you the prices with the 30 and 60gb and without any HD?"
Nope. No pricing figure for the moment. They don't sell to end users because they're the manufacturer. The actual pricing will depend on the retail shops
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"would prefer if it just showed trough the file explorer, does resco explorer show web folders? "
No idea
I guess we just have to sit back and wait patiently
RE
OK, tested the WiDrive on my Universal today
Looks pretty cool...comes with Hitachi 1.8" 30GB hard disk
Managed to get it connected with my Universal using WiFi and access WiDrive using internet by typing a certain address on the address bar. The drive is treated as a web folder
Once login to WiDrive I'm able to download files to play (or save it) on my Universal
Also, can use my external 8800mAH battery pack (purchased from EastGear) to charge the WiDrive
Some issues though
a) cannot upload file from my SD card to WiDrive...hmmm
b) after playing a song I'll need to re-type the address at the PIE address bar in order to return to WiDrive
c) I think music and video cannot be streamed while playing on the Universal. What I mean is I'll need to download the music/video file to my Universal and the concerned program will be auto activated to play the music/video file.....have to check this further otherwise the drive just acts like another drive
Did not buy yet so no testing on notebook carried out. According to the shop streaming was done using the notebook as a driver is required to be installed on the notebook.
Well, I've discussed with WiDrive's boss on the above issues. Will discuss with their engineer tomorrow and feedback here.
Wow, its an experience. Cost about US$263
:lol:
RE
Sorry for the late reply
There're some changes. I'll be getting a 1.8 inch 60GB IDE Hitachi Travelstar and the Wi-Drive casing separately (cheaper this way) by this weekend. If everything works out fine I'll be reporting back
BTW, I was told by the engineer of EDSLAB that OPERA works better than PIE on their drive
RE
Sorry, due falls apart. For the 1.8" hard disk Wi-Drive comes with standard 30GB
60GB version will be released later
Some pictures of Wi-Drive here:-
http://sg.vr-zone.com/index.php?i=3827
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Hmm... Widrive looks good, but WL-HDD is still better in my mind. It can run off a battery (all PSP emergency batterys work, imagine my joy at finding that out!) ,it has an ethernet port for intergration to home networks (you can use it as a wireless access point) and it has USB host, so you can share USB drives, webcams, everything. It also comes up to 100gb, and i bet you itll be cheaper. you could even swap in a 1.8" hdd into the housing and put the battery in the space left, making it a neat solution.
RE
I've bought the Wi-Drive but only for 30GB model and still testing it
Initial test with OPERA gives pretty good results :lol:
Where can either of these external drives be purchased?
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Where can either of these external drives be purchased?
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lol... i wouldnt buy one of those. Max = 100mbps on wireless. On wired USB 2.0 or Firewire = 480mbps or 800mbps i think. I use my diamondmax 11 or my cheetah scsi 15k rpm drive and it goes really quick. I put it on wifi by hooking it up to another computer and mapping it or just use remote access. Anything is possible nowadays, i dont have to tell it to you. But it seems this hard drive can exist independently when signal is available. I dont know how that works but i am sure you need a lcd display to select a network or to enter the key. Just like microsoft Zune? Why dont you guys go for microsoft Zune now that i think of it. ^^
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lol... i wouldnt buy one of those. Max = 100mbps on wireless. On wired USB 2.0 or Firewire = 480mbps or 800mbps i think. I use my diamondmax 11 or my cheetah scsi 15k rpm drive and it goes really quick. I put it on wifi by hooking it up to another computer and mapping it or just use remote access. Anything is possible nowadays, i dont have to tell it to you. But it seems this hard drive can exist independently when signal is available. I dont know how that works but i am sure you need a lcd display to select a network or to enter the key. Just like microsoft Zune? Why dont you guys go for microsoft Zune now that i think of it. ^^
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The point of these drives is mass storage on the universal. Read the thread before posting.
Hi
i am sure for alot of people out they have searched for something to make their usb devices work on a pocket PC. i have gathered some information with regard to this topic and i hope that other users will add to it so that there is a greater awareness and mayb it will help someone figure out the best way to create 1 for the PPC
right now the there is no external USB host controller for pocket pc.
the reason we need the USB host is so that we can connect external USB devices. but i believe that we also need to load the drivers for devices as well.
wat i think is the way the device should work is the usb host for ppc should have drivers built into it so that when u connect a flash drive for example it can identify it and then send the necessary info into the PPC so that the PPC will then handle it in the correct manner. thereafter on the PPC we will probably find it as an additional drive.
I think that connectivity will actually work via the SDIO and not via the USB port.
If there are any other senior members that can elaborate on this it will be great, it will shed some more light on this feature.
I personally would love to have this feature, not for any specific external device but just the ability to have interoperability with all my usb devices onto my PPC.
reo
there are usb host CF cards i believe
not sure if anybody ever made to test in a himalaya backpack which have a CF card
thing with usb devices is that usb mass storage one 1 generic driver
so one for external hd's sdreaders and usb keyring would be enough
CF USB host
Hi
http://www.ratocsystems.com/english/products/subpages/cfu1u.html
do you think that it can be converted from CF to SDIO ?
I actually searched for a CF to SDIO converte but no luck, however even if i do find it what are the chance that it will even work!!
anybody knows more about this ?
reo
it could easy brake because of the size diff
another problem is it would require 2.5watt to power a usb host
not sure if the sd interface can provide that kinda power at all
ok, but considering that we can overlook these obstacles will the converter actually allow for the CF USB to work ?
do you no where i can find a CF to SDIO converter ?
Ridi
I've got a question about "USB Host" as well... I read somewhere, that some processors are capable of USB Host but the companies didn't do the wiring in their devices. and of course the drivers are missing in Win CE.
So my question is: Can I connect USB-Devices to my PDA if I build a USB-wire where I inject 5V from outside and run linux on my device with USB-support built in the kernel?
Hi everyone I was wondering if anyone have experience connection USB devices to Artemis?
USN HDD, Card readers. USB hubs.
I am thinking of trying to connect an USB HDD but just wanted to know if anyone done it before
Sofaford, if you get this working let us know over at http://www.xda-orbit.com
I would love to be able to use my external laptop hard drive with my orbit
Due to the USB bus structure ,it is not possible to connect other devices except a host like a PC to the Artemis. The Artemis has only a device controller on board, but You need a host controller, if You will link the USB HDD to the PDA. There are some other PDA's with build in hosts in the market
Got a nas hard drive works on my wireless network. Good at home. Is there a wifi adaptor to use hd out of network range?
So honestly I really don't know what happened but my LCD is cracked- rending my phone more or less useless. I have just transferred my internal memory to my PC via USB, but I don't know if my text messages are included in that/what the file name is if it was part of my internal memory. Thoughts or suggestions? I have tried downloading a mirroring program but I need to log in on my device, and as I cant use the device.... well that's pretty self explanatory.
You Need a OTG Cable (Micro USB OTG to USB 2.0 Adapter)
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So honestly I really don't know what happened but my LCD is cracked- rending my phone more or less useless. I have just transferred my internal memory to my PC via USB, but I don't know if my text messages are included in that/what the file name is if it was part of my internal memory. Thoughts or suggestions? I have tried downloading a mirroring program but I need to log in on my device, and as I cant use the device.... well that's pretty self explanatory.
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Since no one answered I will post what I did to get my information back.
My screen was unusable (touch wise) but I could see it fine. I bought one of these adapters
http://img.dxcdn.com/productimages/sku_221801_1.jpg
Micro USB OTG to USB 2.0 Adapter
mini-usb-male-to-usb-female-otg-adapting-cable
I plugged a USB mouse into this cable and a usb cursor appeared on my screen, allowing me to unlock my phone and operate it with the mouse, so I was able to back up whatever info I needed and transferred it via wifi to my new phone.