Has anyone else noticed that the site has become very slow? it is taking around a minute or so to load each page and if it has images on the page..... your looking at putting the kettle on before its loaded! LOL
Is the server just having a go slow or is there a prob somewhere along the lines?
Same here, been like it about a week for me
It's working fine for me, the pages are loading at the normal speed.
Site very slow?
Yes the site is very slow.....(((((((
From Rio de Janeiro Brazil.
Yes same here : very very slow almost unusable...
Yes it is painfully slow from here. Unusable !!! really.
Yes the site is _very_ slow from Germany too.
Maybe the server is overloaded by the many users and posts :lol:
I experience a few 'periods' where the site is very slow- not just in the last few days. On the whole it's a usable speed.
Suppose that's what you get with a voluntary(?) site with no ads.
Perhaps more donations from users would resolve this issue (says he who hasn't done so himself :shock: )
We know it's too slow. We're working on it. We are currently researching a lot of option, including professionalising what has been a back-burner hobby project. Stay tuned, more news and a longer post about this soon...
I'm having difficulty posting at all now. This seems like a more recent problem than any inherent slowness
V
well if its your host messing you around, then i can arrange some VERY cheap hosting for this site, cheaper than anything you can find!
Speed again ! Great
yeahh!!!
"WILD THING! de de de de, YOU MAKE MY HEART SING!" :lol: 8)
What was the problem in the end, Peter? Care to share for the curious ones?
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What was the problem in the end, Peter? Care to share for the curious ones?
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Cryx, our heroic god-like sysadmin, has updated the FreeBSD that sits underneath xda-developers.com and installed something called eAccelerator. (The FreeBSD upgrade brought most of the speed increase, I am told.) All of this is sort of stop-gap though, the way phpBB talks to the MySQL database just doesn't easily scale to the size of this operation.
For the slightly longer run, Cryx has joined our star PHP-programmer Elisa in working on the first preparations for the monster logistical operation of switching board software. All in all we're going to be making some profound changes in the way xda-developers looks, works and feels.
Much more news will follow in January, but the gist is that there will be full-time paid people (not me) on call for xda-developers. The flip-side of that is that we will likely have a moderate amount of non-obtrusive ads in the not too distant future. We're still researching and building it all, so all of this is very fresh thinking.
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What has has happened. The site has slowed down so much it's almost unusable. HELP PLEASE.
I agree...
taking forever to open anything (if it opens at all). Keep getting page cannot be displayed, keep having to refresh page and hope for the best!!
Maybe time for a defrag? :lol:
the slowdown has probably something to do with the news about Windows Mobile 2005..
its been slow like this for months. nothing to do with wm2005
strange. yet the ftp seems fast as anything.
This site is really painfully slow. My company is willing to donate a full dedicated server for hosting purposes. Please PM me if you interested.
The site hasn't been accessible for the past 5 hours, and now it's back, it's unusably slow, as it has been for several days. If I didn't have a broadband connection, I'd have long since stopped using the forum.
This does need sorting out. ASAP
Add to that the FTP server gets wiped out, its slowly becoming no fun to post, write in wiki nor answer the cries of help form the comunaty.
Still no answers on this? Been slow for ages - more than once I have done a reply, but the page has timed out and I could not be bothered to re-trype it all. I can't be the only one!!! R
This site feels like its running off a home DSL connection. Its been like this for a year. I ran accross this site in june 2004 and it was super slow back then. I wondered how so many people can post and write with such a slow site. I thoght it was a backbone problem, but I am using a different ISP and different location and its still slow.
WOW!
Something has happened because the site is flying today!
Hope its not just an April's Fool joke :lol:
Is anyone else experiencing very slow running of this website & forums?
For the last 3 days, it has been taking a really long time for any page to load up (3-5mins). Often they just time out with server not responding. Occasionally however, pages load instantly like they should, but this is very rare!
Last night I was getting "500 - Server Error" pages when trying to view any page in the forum.
I am not getting these problems on any other website, only xda-developers. I need to work out if it is an anomaly with my ISP, or if it is a problem with xda-developers.
I am running on 5.5Mbit ADSL connection in UK with F9 (part of PlusNet). I use OpenDNS as my DNS servers. I've tried multiple computers from two different houses (both F9 though).
Thanks
Mike
Yes in the last couple of days, it is really slow
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same here i read somewhere else it maybe because a lot of people are downloading all the roms before they get taken off
it is slow indeed
i noticed the same here.
it is very very slow
Same here from Germany, but perhaps it's just because everyone tries to mirror the FTP-Server with all the ROMs ;-)
Nah, the slowdown started before the MS warning.
True, but sometimes is fast as usual. Especially in the evening (GMT+1)
it's not fast now...
Slow as f***
Slow Site
I agree with the other posts, this site has been running slow since I found out about it about a month ago.
It is really annoying waiting all that time for the pages to load!!
But the information on this site is brilliant and well worth the wait!!
I am not an expert on site speeds but I would put the slow speeds down to the site needing a bigger and faster server.
The Pocket PC market is really taking off now and so more and more people are seeking help and advice about their devices, so the site is bound to run slower than it was set up for.
I would be willing to donate to help speed up the site if the owners purchased a new server, presuming that is the cause of course!
Other great sites to visit are :
coolsmartphone.co.uk
modaco.com
Keep up the good work, but please make the pages load faster!
Snails pace
Here in South Africa it is virtually impossible to get onto the site.
IS THE SITE NOT BEING THROTTLED?
This has only been for the past 3 to 4 days.
Moderators please let us know what's happening
I think is time to dump my HTC products!
one of the server drives died so it has been running solo....plus all the people dowloading.....drive is been replaced.
The fact that the Inquirer.net linked to the forum post about the ROM dump being shut down by MS doesn't help our forum speeds either.. however I've noticed that the number of votes on the petition DOUBLED in just one day -- the response from the community has been quite impressive thus far. Whether or not the petition has had any benefits so far remains to be seen, however I hope for our sake that all this traffic helps out in the long run.
Time will tell.
Sir Lancealot
It's not the "time to drop HTC products".
It's time to find a more sophisticated way to store and share the ROMs, so that stupid crybabies who would call Mommy (Operator) for bleedin' warranty (!) when their XDA gets bricked won't get another chance to screw it up for everybody.
Long live HTC products. Looking for the next Universal like - VGA, WM6 Professional (Phone), GPS, lots of internal Storage so never again "9MB free" on it -- and of course "the King is dead, long live the King" -- you can't stop good work floating around.
Blame HTC not XDA
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It's not the "time to drop HTC products".
It's time to find a more sophisticated way to store and share the ROMs, so that stupid crybabies who would call Mommy (Operator) for bleedin' warranty (!) when their XDA gets bricked won't get another chance to screw it up for everybody.
Long live HTC products. Looking for the next Universal like - VGA, WM6 Professional (Phone), GPS, lots of internal Storage so never again "9MB free" on it -- and of course "the King is dead, long live the King" -- you can't stop good work floating around.
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I don't think you will ever stop people bricking their devices. As long as they understand the risks it's their problem. I do feel that users with bricked devices are stupid to check in for warrantee repairs - Operators should just reject their claims.
I feel that the threat to XDA to remove ROMS will only drive the practise underground and they will loose control forever. I quote the example of the "unlocker" that was removed after a complaint about infringement of rights issue. Well this fix floats around on many sites on the internet and cannot be stopped.
I think that MS and the operators are going to loose their greatest test and development site.
I purchased my TyTn in September in the UK and right from the start it had issues that HTC knew about but continued to sell the devices. THIS TO ME IS THE UNETHICAL AND THE BLAME MUST REST SQUARELY ON THE SHOULDERS OF HTC.
Why can individuals not attemt to correct these faults?
I have waited from end September 2006 for a promised upgrade to correct the problems. I have the correspondence with HTC Europe as proof.
The TyTn is an expensive phone full of "issues"
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I purchased my TyTn in September in the UK and right from the start it had issues that HTC knew about but continued to sell the devices. THIS TO ME IS THE UNETHICAL AND THE BLAME MUST REST SQUARELY ON THE SHOULDERS OF HTC.
Why can individuals not attemt to correct these faults?
I have waited from end September 2006 for a promised upgrade to correct the problems. I have the correspondence with HTC Europe as proof.
The TyTn is an expensive phone full of "issues"
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I realize that this is off topic, but I'm with Basil 100%. The bottom line is that XDA Developers is starting to make HTC and M$ look like fools, because this excellent site and its supporters are fixing issues that HTC and M$ should be fixing -- Voice Command 1.6 and BT A2DP are two that are at the top of my list. So rather than welcome this group of brilliant users (what better beta testing can you find anywhere else) and work with us, they'd rather ignore us and get into bed with the carriers/operators who are just as bad.
It shouldn't matter where we bought our devices (I purchased mine in the US from an HTC "distributor") -- these are HTC-designed and manufactured devices running the M$ OS. Therefore they should be fully supported by HTC and M$. As for "bricking" a device, most (all?) warranties state that they only cover incidental damages or issues caused by "normal" use. An operator should return a "bricked" device to the user unrepaired (if it is found to be running a "non-standard" version of the ROM firmware), with a quote for repair/replacement should the user wish to persue the matter further.
I for one hope that the iPhone turns out to be half as good as Steve Jobs says it is/will be, because I think that Apple will make M$ and its OEMs finally wake up and smell the coffee. At least Apple listen to their users and fix their problems (as few as there are) in a timely fashion. On the other hand, maybe I am living in Wonderland with Alice... ;^)
John
EastExpert said:
It's not the "time to drop HTC products".
It's time to find a more sophisticated way to store and share the ROMs, so that stupid crybabies who would call Mommy (Operator) for bleedin' warranty (!) when their XDA gets bricked won't get another chance to screw it up for everybody.
Long live HTC products. Looking for the next Universal like - VGA, WM6 Professional (Phone), GPS, lots of internal Storage so never again "9MB free" on it -- and of course "the King is dead, long live the King" -- you can't stop good work floating around.
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Yeah! Let's keep the momentum alive! We'll find a workaround ;-)
finaly
for the past 3 or 4 days i have not been able to go into the site. been getting gateway time out and till today in the morning i was able to go in but another time out right after i went to a different post at least I'm logged in right now. hope it gets back to normal
Looks like better now
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Looks like better now
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yeah I'm not getting time outs anymore
Im beginning to think that xda-developers.com server(s) is going on their knees. The forum is responding bad and lags sometimes.
I wondering why, and looked further down. A big block of usernames taking up my whole screen seems to be the answer. With about ~6000 users online, I think both the connection, database server and the forum server(s) hardware are going on their maxs, I can just imagine that the server are receiving like 3000-4000 HTTP hits/second in total... And thats pretty high load.
I have a suggestion: Why not split the forum into 2 forums, and the split is done in a way so both forums is about "equally" popular. This means the forum can be split on 2 servers too with separate databases. (Like forum1.xda-developers.com and forum2.xda-developers.com)
So the first forum could have the most popular forums, and the second forum could have the rest.
This to make performance at xda-developers.com better.
Welcome to forums
Why don´t you better do a donation!!
That way owners can manage any overload
We have more than 1 server you know .
Dave
Well it seems bad. Is it because I'm from Kansas and the server is overseas? It can take up to like five or ten seconds for a page to even begin to load.
Strength in Numbers
I think that a forum split wouldn't benefit the xda site as a whole. There are a lot of benefits from working together, and you never know how many rom, stack, or radio problems have been solved from developers looking into issues mentions on other phones and collaborating with other developers. There could be a invaluable amount of networking loss and communication loss between xda-users and providers in splitting the forum into 2 databases.
yeah, well. something must be done though, because the site is responding very slow, and sometimes not at all..
Dee-Key said:
yeah, well. something must be done though, because the site is responding very slow, and sometimes not at all..
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Well, there's some work planned
Dave
Hello All,
I am a regular visitor of the XDA and found it the most resourceful website on the planet. It gives me a sense that I have come to my people place.
After browsing on to various posts and topics I felt that I should also do something for this community and decided to create file sharing website where most powerful brains (XDA members) can put there hard work and share with the world without any difficulty as I have seen many of you people uses (4shared.com, rapidshare, megaupload, etc) but they all not so easy place to download the files. I want to give you people a beautiful place to upload and download files.
I firmly believe that we can grow high with each others support and can always take a further step even in those directions for which people says "Its Blocked".
I want that this place (XDA should be called as one stop mobile solution place) because where peoples thought ends we start working from that place.
But I want to know that do you people really require this service, because only after that I will be able to work upon it.
Please give my your feedback.
vikas_vtcm said:
Hello All,
I am a regular visitor of the XDA and found it the most resourceful website on the planet. It gives me a sense that I have come to my people place.
After browsing on to various posts and topics I felt that I should also do something for this community and decided to create file sharing website where most powerful brains (XDA members) can put there hard work and share with the world without any difficulty as I have seen many of you people uses (4shared.com, rapidshare, megaupload, etc) but they all not so easy place to download the files. I want to give you people a beautiful place to upload and download files.
I firmly believe that we can grow high with each others support and can always take a further step even in those directions for which people says "Its Blocked".
I want that this place (XDA should be called as one stop mobile solution place) because where peoples thought ends we start working from that place.
But I want to know that do you people really require this service, because only after that I will be able to work upon it.
Please give my your feedback.
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Many people have tried this before, but the bandwidth needed usually puts paid to them, as cost of running is HUGE. One month, I used 3TB bandwidth just for one ROM. If our team has 5 ROMs just now, that could be a lot of bandwidth (not necessarily 15 TB, but lots)... Multiply that by number of devs, you could have issues with finding a data center...
And storage space. Each ROM for android is 100 to 200 MB, multiplied by all the devs, that would be a hell of a lot of storage space... And where would you back it up to?
It would be a mammoth task... Just saying
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Many people have tried this before, but the bandwidth needed usually puts paid to them, as cost of running is HUGE. One month, I used 3TB bandwidth just for one ROM. If our team has 5 ROMs just now, that could be a lot of bandwidth (not necessarily 15 TB, but lots)... Multiply that by number of devs, you could have issues with finding a data center...
And storage space. Each ROM for android is 100 to 200 MB, multiplied by all the devs, that would be a hell of a lot of storage space... And where would you back it up to?
It would be a mammoth task... Just saying
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Thanks for your quick response,
Bandwidth and the data space will not be a problem with me ...
As i can arrange an Unlimited data space and bandwidth for this service. With a real high speed connectivity...
But I need your support .... Are you with my me???
Hello all,
I need feedback please...
Is this services really required???
As Pulser said, bandwidth can be a huge issue. However the even larger issue would be with the software companies taking issue with a central repository like what you propose.
Generally, rapidshare and the others offer a certain degree of anonymity, which came in handy whenever Microsoft got a bug up its butt.
Sent from my rooted Droid X, powered by Froyo and Big Red.
As NATF said, the issue of hosting the files would put you in shaky legal waters (regardless of where you live or hold the server, since something like this could reach international scales pretty quickly)...
Even with unlimited bandwidth and unlimited space, I can assure you there will be a limit, where the datacenter would not allow a dedicated server to operate at (I presume you are talking dedicated server, as anything less than full dedicated would have you kicked off the package faster than you could say XDA
But as for bandwidth, I have saturated out 5x100Mbps mirrors with one ROM release, so I honestly think you would be facing an immense task.
Coupled with the fact that even the tiniest slip up would result in almost all the ROMs available being offline while maintenance occurred (making your service lose credibility), if there was data loss, it could be catastrophic if nobody had backups. (Data loss could be due to police raid and seizure warrant, or hack attempts)
Personally, I will always release ROMs from either servers I own, or using space kindly donated by users of our ROMs who have servers operating below capacity.
Mediafire/multiupload etc are also so popular that it would be hard to persuade people to move across. And being able to upload there keeps people further from Microsoft etc, rather than directly uploading...
Imagine if you got subpoenaed for ftpd logs (the logs of all uploads to the server), or worse, the apache access ogs (the details of everyone who downloaded from it)
Whilst it's a very kind and generous offer, I think the logistics and legal issues would prevent it being feasible. A central repository is a good link in the chain to burst, hence why the scattergun approach is much more effective
pulser_g2 said:
As NATF said, the issue of hosting the files would put you in shaky legal waters (regardless of where you live or hold the server, since something like this could reach international scales pretty quickly)...
Even with unlimited bandwidth and unlimited space, I can assure you there will be a limit, where the datacenter would not allow a dedicated server to operate at (I presume you are talking dedicated server, as anything less than full dedicated would have you kicked off the package faster than you could say XDA
But as for bandwidth, I have saturated out 5x100Mbps mirrors with one ROM release, so I honestly think you would be facing an immense task.
Coupled with the fact that even the tiniest slip up would result in almost all the ROMs available being offline while maintenance occurred (making your service lose credibility), if there was data loss, it could be catastrophic if nobody had backups. (Data loss could be due to police raid and seizure warrant, or hack attempts)
Personally, I will always release ROMs from either servers I own, or using space kindly donated by users of our ROMs who have servers operating below capacity.
Mediafire/multiupload etc are also so popular that it would be hard to persuade people to move across. And being able to upload there keeps people further from Microsoft etc, rather than directly uploading...
Imagine if you got subpoenaed for ftpd logs (the logs of all uploads to the server), or worse, the apache access ogs (the details of everyone who downloaded from it)
Whilst it's a very kind and generous offer, I think the logistics and legal issues would prevent it being feasible. A central repository is a good link in the chain to burst, hence why the scattergun approach is much more effective
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Thanks for your credible feedback..
Is there some solution to overcome all theses legal and other kind of issues... and on my side I will look in the matter and get back to you guys...
I really appreciate that you guys took pain in putting some light in this matter.
hey, i recently joined this page on facebook (i've withheld the name of the page as to not seem like i'm here to promote it or such, not that it requires promotion with its 2 million members) and a many of us including the owner of the page there are a free-thinking bunch. The problem is that whenever some user finds something we say offensive, we get reported and are blocked from posting for 10-12 hours, sometimes entire days...
The gracious admin there took it upon himself to finance an entirely new site as a refuge for us. But most of lack the technical know-how of getting a site up and running. We have a few volunteers ready to devote their time and skills to help in the site's construction.
The owner suggested a forum-esque feel to the site rather than something like facebook itself and when anyone mentions forum the only thing my mind thinks is XDA!! This site is the epitome of what a forum should be about!!
So i was hoping if anyone could give me some sort of information as to what the site is based on (HTML, PHP, etc)? what type security measures should we be looking at? we read something about a using social networking engines to enable features like instant messaging...
i was hoping if someone could point me (and by relation, us) in the right direction.
Any help would be much appreciated.
psychocyst said:
hey, i recently joined this page on facebook (i've withheld the name of the page as to not seem like i'm here to promote it or such, not that it requires promotion with its 2 million members) and a many of us including the owner of the page there are a free-thinking bunch. The problem is that whenever some user finds something we say offensive, we get reported and are blocked from posting for 10-12 hours, sometimes entire days...
The gracious admin there took it upon himself to finance an entirely new site as a refuge for us. But most of lack the technical know-how of getting a site up and running. We have a few volunteers ready to devote their time and skills to help in the site's construction.
The owner suggested a forum-esque feel to the site rather than something like facebook itself and when anyone mentions forum the only thing my mind thinks is XDA!! This site is the epitome of what a forum should be about!!
So i was hoping if anyone could give me some sort of information as to what the site is based on (HTML, PHP, etc)? what type security measures should we be looking at? we read something about a using social networking engines to enable features like instant messaging...
i was hoping if someone could point me (and by relation, us) in the right direction.
Any help would be much appreciated.
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This site is running on vBulletin 3.8.6 which is commercial software. There are free bulletin boards out there. As for security, this is a massive topic that I don't think anyone can summarise. Obvious things like good password policies (long and random, never re-used, etc) and keeping all software patched up to date are key. Other than that it all depends on the implementation. Also, there are penetration testing tools that you can find off the internet to test your site.
Dave
thanks a million Dave. i'll look into it and pass the message on to our group.
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thanks a million Dave. i'll look into it and pass the message on to our group.
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What Dave said, but beware that your site is only as secure as the system it runs on.
Your system can be the most secure in the world, with lovely nice PHP code, the latest patched vBulletin install, and I might still get into it...
If you are using shared web hosting, and some peon is using an out of date wordpress install, they can likely wreak a fair bit of havock on a poorly setup server.
Unfortunately most shared hosting is poorly setup. If you have 2 million members, you WILL need dedicated server space. I would also suggest you need to seriously consider the undertaking here - 2 million people is A LOT, and I don't know how many simultaneous users you are talking about, but it sounds a big target...
You will need a fairly powerful server from the sounds of it. I would suggest looking at the available forum systems, installing them (free ones), or trying out the demos.
I assist in the running of a number of sites, from single figure numbers of visitors per day, through to hundreds of thousands/millions per day... The requirements for these differ HUGELY. While something free like SMF might be good for a site with 200 folk, it's not likely a good idea on a site with 100,000 visitors per day posting...
Consider backup strategies too, for WHEN the worst happens - not if... Where will you store backups? How will you secure them?
Finally, remember to look to the future. phpBB is pretty poor, I suggest avoiding it. But what will you move to next? Make sure you pick a system that ain't gonna die tomorrow... If it does, you are stuck without security updates, and you might find it hard to migrate to another one... Be sure to go with a system that has good support to migrate further if/when the time comes...
woah!! ok, this was a big help...although we have close to 2 million people signed on, only about 30 - 40% of those are regularly active and perhaps 100 or so who're almost always there...
i saw BBCode implementation at linux mint forums and found it a total fail compared to XDA...i had completely forgotten about the back-up portion...
knew i could count on XDA for a lil' help...God i love this site!!
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woah!! ok, this was a big help...although we have close to 2 million people signed on, only about 30 - 40% of those are regularly active and perhaps 100 or so who're almost always there...
i saw BBCode implementation at linux mint forums and found it a total fail compared to XDA...i had completely forgotten about the back-up portion...
knew i could count on XDA for a lil' help...God i love this site!!
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Haha no worries.
From those figures I would size the site based on coping with 5000 simultaneous users minimum. I doubt you will get as much tbh, as many people hit the homepage and look at the latest, then go to the next site they visit.
If you can afford, aim to cope with 10k+ simultaneous, to cover you for if you get a bout of publicity...
I'd reckon on a well-run server you would be OK with 8 to 16 GB of RAM, and a few hundred gigabytes of hdd. Bandwidth is hard to gauge without info on the site and content...
But I think it could be run for under $400 per month, and that is a very high estimate to cover things like multiple backup locations.
You will instantly ruin your site reputation if you need to use backups and they don't work...
If nobody is experienced in server management, hire someone to do it. These things are often best left to the experts where you are unsure... It will likely pay for itself in their expertise at least 3 times a month (or at least that's how often some of my clients proclaim I saved their "lives" )