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First off, let me apologize for asking what to many is probably a straightforward question, but I've spent the better part of the last two days stumbling around, and as Moses did after 40 years, I figure it's time to stop and ask directions....
Recently received a PPC 6800 Mogul (Sprint) after many years of Treo and BB use. Let me say that I love and hate the phone at the same time. Love the fact that it operates like a PC....hate the fact that it takes forever to boot up. But such is life.
In my travels on this site and others this weekend I've downloaded some cool apps and I've been able to get a few running on the phone. But as I've done so I've realized I need to get some basic CAB or Windows Mobile 101 training.
Is there a thread or threads on here someone would recommend I read to learn the basics of using CAB's or other ways to load apps onto my phone? I really like the way the phone is easier to understand than the Palm OS and WAY better than the BB OS. But I think I'm at the point of being able to get myself into trouble, but not out of it.
Thanks in advance for your patience, your help and your humor as I plod through this. I'll keep you posted as to my successes, and maybe amuse some of you with my blunders.
"I don't find trouble, it just seems to know my address."
Great Start!
Thanks Mike, this is a great start!
With my skill level (and I'm part Irish, so Murphy is always lurking out there somewhere) I'm going to invest in the backup software.
Appreciate your help!
- Here we go, into the wild blue yonder!
HERE is a great place to find some cab files....
Enjoy!
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exe files you run on the PPC and next time you connect to AS it will auto install the programme on the PPC.
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a little typo there ...
although, once in awhile we do get an EXE that specifically meant to be run on the device too ... so you're not 100 % off there
I want to know which ROM is worth downloading and upgraded to? I've upgraded my phone to Kavana's 6.1, and seen all these other windows 6.5 and all that. Is Kavana the best one out right now? I mean that I want something that I can be convienient for games, being able to watch youtube (and other websites that are like youtube) FLV files, and the fastest and stable OS. Please don't flame me guys, I just got this phone a couple of days ago, and want to know who's ROM is the best.
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I want to know which ROM is worth downloading and upgraded to? I've upgraded my phone to Kavana's 6.1, and seen all these other windows 6.5 and all that. Is Kavana the best one out right now? I mean that I want something that I can be convienient for games, being able to watch youtube (and other websites that are like youtube) FLV files, and the fastest and stable OS. Please don't flame me guys, I just got this phone a couple of days ago, and want to know who's ROM is the best.
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Before you get flamed by everyone here for making this thread, I'm gonna tell you there is no best rom. Like we have mentioned to the 100 people that asked this same question before you, it comes down to preference, and taste, every rom we got here are good roms, but the choice is up to the user, to decide which is best. So start flashing and you shall find what siuts you best.
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Before you get flamed by everyone here for making this thread, I'm gonna tell you there is no best rom. Like we have mentioned to the 100 people that asked this same question before you, it comes down to preference, and taste, every rom we got here are good roms, but the choice is up to the user, to decide which is best. So start flashing and you shall find what siuts you best.
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Correct. I would suggest looking at both the "default installed" apps and also look at a few screen shots to see what you would prefer.
There are some differences, so taking the time to research each WM6.5 ROM will save you, possibly, a headache in the end.
mods, do your thing!
I thought this was the What is the Best Rom Thread on the Best Rom?....
Ermmmm......It's all about preference. As I have said many times before. Sorry, I am just a little jet lagged. I finally made it to Eastern Germany, and I don't like the looks of it so far.
It depends on what you want to do with your rom. You want speed, go with NRG, You want looks, and speed, a lil, go with ookba's, You want the daily diet, go with Kavana, you want aesthetics, (how do I spell that?) go with Ricky's .
It is all a personal preference. You have to try each one out and suit your taste my friend. No one ROM has ever suited my taste. If I could combine them all into one, I would happily (again a wrong spelling I fear) do it. But each one has it's own style.
Kind of like a girl. You aren't satisfied with just one until you find the one to fit your every compassion. And I am just misspelling words all over the place tonite, but you have to forgive me, I have been on an 28 hour plane ride. Not one suits your desire until you find the perfect one. You have to try them all out friend, each and every one, until you are at least happy with one.
Yeah I just tried to install ooaka's latest one and now my phone is stuck at the windows mobile screen... Theres nothing I can do now huh?
EDIT: Nevermind i figure it out, just close the thread if u have to. Thanks skyline for giving me some info for which rom does what.
cksnah252 said:
Yeah I just tried to install ooaka's latest one and now my phone is stuck at the windows mobile screen... Theres nothing I can do now huh?
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Try to hard reset your phone and refresh again. If that doesn't work try using bootload method mentioned in the forum
Good luck
tmobile windows 5.0 is the best..
personally i spent a week with each rom to see which is the best: and they all were equally good. i just wish there were some way they could combine it. like it was said b4 each cooker had their personal flair on their rom. make sure you try ALL
Yeah, I've found out that ooaka's wm6.5 evolution is perfect for me. Well thanks alot guys for the help, I appreciate it! One more thing, why do a lot of people recommend using opera mobile or mini, instead of IE? I tried searching around but all i can get is that IE is slower, and opera uses java? Lighten me up a bit plz.
Thats just it, IE is slow, clunky, has limited options, and dosent render some web pages very well. Opera is alot faster, user friendly, and overall is a better browsing experiance. My moto Q9h has opera built in as its default browser. I think AT&T was too afraid to release a smart phone with only IE.
Thanks alot for the info man, I appreciate it . I think I'm going to try out opera, because I am actually using it for my computer.
One more thing guys, which one is better opera mini or mobile ?
i'm happy to see this thread stray away from which rom is best... that's just an unfair question, and i take it kind of personal. though i'm not a cooker, (more like an alter of pre-existing fun ) i see it like people trying to turn the chef against each other. and that's just not how it's goning to be here! if more people would use the search engine they would see that there are a number of threads already like this. don't get me wrong, i'm no model member. i just don't like it when threads like this pop up. so now that i'm done with my rant, continue enjoying the pretty things this place has to offer.
I like your sig haha the best one yet!
To cksnah I use Opera mini. I dont think I ever used Opera Mobile.
dam guys just calm down, its like ur going to kill me lol. But yea, I'm going to try and use opera mini. Also thanks to those who actually helped instead of giving me answers that doesn't go with my question .
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dam guys just calm down, its like ur going to kill me lol. But yea, I'm going to try and use opera mini. Also thanks to those who actually helped instead of giving me answers that doesn't go with my question .
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I think the big difference between the 2 flavours of Opera is -
Opera mini routes all its' traffic through their servers and compresses it before sending it on to your device. For general surfing this is really, really good as everything is faster and less data passes through any data allowance you have. But, you cant access any UN/PW sites with it so banking, webmail etc don't really happen.
Opera mobile does allow the use of cookies and so can be used for such sites. But pages are less compressed and therefore larger to download.
I think that's right.
Something like it anyway ...
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I think the big difference between the 2 flavours of Opera is -
Opera mini routes all its' traffic through their servers and compresses it before sending it on to your device. For general surfing this is really, really good as everything is faster and less data passes through any data allowance you have. But, you cant access any UN/PW sites with it so banking, webmail etc don't really happen.
Opera mobile does allow the use of cookies and so can be used for such sites. But pages are less compressed and therefore larger to download.
I think that's right.
Something like it anyway ...
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Ya, that is pretty much the gist of it. I use Opera Mobile for online bill pay when I can't get to my computer. I like the speed and page load time of Opera Mini. I say install both cksnah252, and use at will.
This might help with the breakdown of the differences between the two - -
http://opera.perm.ru/?set=opera&nm=omvsom
And a post from our own site - -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=278156
Thank goodness for that.
I had a horrible feeling I'd just made it all up. You know how it is ...
Hey Skyline, how're you finding life in Frau Merkels' patch of Europe?
I would avoid Mr Browns' part at the moment, it's cold and damp but I believe every day is a holiday in Sr Berlusconis' Italy, a short train ride from your present position. Have fun.
ratstrangler said:
Thank goodness for that.
I had a horrible feeling I'd just made it all up. You know how it is ...
Hey Skyline, how're you finding life in Frau Merkels' patch of Europe?
I would avoid Mr Browns' part at the moment, it's cold and damp but I believe every day is a holiday in Sr Berlusconis' Italy, a short train ride from your present position. Have fun.
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I have from the Neonbabies German band here Annette Humpe, she says live life and build your phone around it.
I guess I discovered the nightlife. God bless me. It is supposed to rain tomorrow and the next and next day. Kind of what I experienced in the good ol' south of carolina.
I think I am going to make a blog post or something. I must just be a hick of the states, but My life in Germany has been great so far. I have met peeps I never knew I could, and have been warned not to meet the peeps I couldn't. It is just all disco. I visited this one discoteque, dang i can't spell it, but there all the famous peeps there. I will report back. This one famous one, I won't say her name , say her name, lol, was weeping with me at the death of MJ.
Loves you all, loves German bistros and beers. God bless America and Germany. Happy fourths of July.
Xda developers community,
Here I sit at the end of approximately 78 hours of a joyfully sleep deprived journey of pure tech excitement. It all started with my two month old G1 Dream, which I am crazy about, suddenly began to annoy me with its ridiculously small internal memory. I offered my dilemma to the overlord of infinite knowledge, Google, and all roads kept leading me here. I began to read, found answers,and developed the uncontrollable urge to join the action. I've read, rooted, rommed, wiped, re-rooted, re-rommed, nearly bricked, cried, picked myself up, read some more, fixed, and utterly tweaked my G1 into a steroid laced technological work of art. Twice I wanted to ask questions but fought my hands away from the keyboard as I read the seemingly harsh and usually condescending replies as my fellow noobs received. Quick and deadly were the Chinese stars of sarcasm as they split their heads open, ending each post with "you would have found this if you'd just taken the time to read the forum". Each one of them ending in that little blue "Link of Shame" they provide linking you right to the detailed answer that was posted like two weeks ago. Not me....no sir! I decided to read and discover the what lies within for myself. I'm so glad I did too because I've learned more about my G1 here in three days than all my accumulated phone knowledge combined. This place is a tech-rebels think tank of knowledge from some really knowledgeable people. Everything I studied and tried was 100% accurate and easy to follow. Thanks to all of you for sharing your discoveries with all of us "Noobs" out here. I'm hooked on XDA! Sleep.....we don't need sleep where we're going....STANDBY FOR REBOOT!!
Welcome to forums
Great and nice words of introduction
Read, Search, Respect and Enjoy!!
Enjoy this great forum! Read, Search, and Happy Flashing
That has to be the best first post I've ever read....
Congrats on all that you've learned.
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Welcome to the "family" I too followed your process....
So 'cool' yet spending way to much free time will be the thing to look out for....
Really, Your post is outstanding....wish it could be on all ROM's 1st page...
PM me if you ever need to...DID you know to click on the persons name (top left of their post) to PM them and/or see all their postings....a quick way to get help I have found....
Nice post and welcome to the forums!
We were all "noobs" once mate, at least you did the right thing and read up.
Far too many "users" here just want answers, finding them for yourself is far more satisfying.
So now you've read up on the Billions of pages and dug your way through the hundreds of forums, when will you be releasing your first Rom?
LoL
Welcome to the forums mate, may you be stuck here forever like the rest us!
Cheers,
Beasty
Welcome to your Home!!!
That's similar to what I experienced sometimes. But if you read and read and then you ask about something that "is there" and you did not find, I think nobody will throw you to the lions.
Now, enjoy... and help make this site greater !
I'm a carrier for the XDA virus....
I raced to the office today to ignore the growing pile of work on my desk, darted past my idiot boss mumbling something about deadlines or some crap, and sat down to start the day off with a triple espresso and a theme flash straight from the XDA threads. As I waited for my phone to reboot I started feeling the sharp pinch of conviction. All day long people, myself included, run to the elite developers of XDA for endless advice on flashing, features, firmware,roots, roms, and recovery screens and freely download to their hearts content. Then strut around showing everyone there phones as if they were some sort of underworld hackers. But does anyone stop to think about all the endless hours or trial and error, defeat, lines of code, complaints, and everything else that goes into these works of art? Each day I learn a little something more and gain a deeper insight on the hard work that so many put in so that I can carry around my super fast , fully loaded, and ready to tether G1 each day. Allthough I really dont think these folks do what they do for fame or fortune, I still feel like I need to give credit where obvious credit is due. Thanks for the hard work, warm welcomes, and dead on advice I recieve each day here. And the flavor of the day today is an RC29 build, Cyanogen pimped out recovery and his latest update, very nice "Black Ice" theme, and a phone I cant seem to put down. Oh crap...here comes that jack a** boss of mine and my boot loader is stuck in a loop. I gotta start establishing better priorities.......like getting up and closing my office door so I can wipe and reflash this bad boy!!
Hihi.. nice writing.
Welcome on board.
Grtz Leo
During the last several days on occations, when I try to enter this site, I get the following error message:
502 Bad Gateway
nginx/0.7.63
It happens on occations for a period of time, every few hours,
and then everything gets back to normal.
Anyone else experience this ?
We are working on that.
Ok thanks
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foobar423 said:
We are working on that.
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Mostly, it happens on clicking a link.
The issue is compounded by SPAM Auto-Bots doing flood posts to the forum ... effectively placing unwanted load on the gateway(s) - similar to a DoS attack.
hilaireg said:
The issue is compounded by SPAM Auto-Bots doing flood posts to the forum ... effectively placing unwanted load on the gateway(s) - similar to a DoS attack.
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Would it not be useful to put some kinda Captcha in place for posting on the forums? maybe a system where you have to enter one every few posts, that would ensure the post are automated
Most spam subjects are known from prior floods...these should be continuely filtered before they can create a thread!
Chaps,
You have my sympathy. Do hope you can find a solution to this soon as the user experience is pretty bad at the moment.
Speed of access to forums on XDA has been dreadfully slow over the last month, usually ending in the dreaded error 502 message which effectively means game over until the network traffic reduces.
I assume you have "blockers" e.g. not allowing multiple searches within n seconds of a previous request, and other denial of service prevention techniques in place?
All I can say is that, at the moment, using XDA is very frustrating to use, that is if one is lucky to get onto the site in the first place. Hope you get it sorted soon.
Good luck.
Thanks
WB
Yeah, it seems that there has been a downtime over the last hour (beginning from about GMT 03:15 PM) as well.
The site loading time has been very slow as well... but, don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, I'm just noticing .
Dunno what yall are using to combat the spambots but I have been using fail2ban and having it scan the user agent strings and ban them with a firewall level ban. Works pretty well as after the initial contact they get blocked and cause less load.
I am guess it is google. They are pretty evil, keep fighting the good fight XDA
I sufered...
Wow!
I think this is the most big time with XDA down!
More than 5 hrs went down on here.
You do not value something till you lost it!!
Come on guys!!
Lets give a donation to XDA.
Long live to dear XDA
Hopefully the 5 hrs down was to replace and add many more servers...
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Hopefully the 5 hrs down was to replace and add many more servers...
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AMEN to that!
MODs if possible please share the details of what went wrong, some of us here are security/network specialists, and can donate help.
i always get that problem,even i don't post/
Hmmm sounds like XDA's new site is 502.Bad.gateway.com
I have never run a site with more than 100 active users at the same time, let alone 6000+ users at once. The admins here have my respect for keeping this site running as well as they have. My guess is lots of people picked up new phones during this holiday & Black Friday week. Is the site seeing a surge in new visitors?
From the front page:
Currently Active Users: 6323 (2781 members and 3542 guests)
finally i got in!!!!!!
after 5hrs down!!
wow... this sucks! This 502 gate way error happens to me very often... i hope they're working on this issue asap!
rlee
Wow, that was some heavy down time...so much for new servers
And like mike said, the stars have been ripped off...what next
Ive been looking around and around, and there is no talk about fixing the multimedia sound on Android for the TP2, is this something that is being worked on, if sound worked on android, I would use it 100% and I would give a donation too! can someone fill me in?
same here!
If you guys even TRIED TO READ THE FIRST post on the thread he had Specifically said that SOUND does not work.
Although, I think its a mattar of patience until it comes because I am as well excited for sound.
Read the threads!
Have faith, the 5/10 GPS update came with almost no hint of an update in the main thread, so it could surprise you. I wouldn't base the talk on here with what's going on with the devs. Especially because most of the regulars know to just play it cool and appreciate when updates do come, knowing that it is being worked on.
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Have faith, the 5/10 GPS update came with almost no hint of an update in the main thread, so it could surprise you. I wouldn't base the talk on here with what's going on with the devs. Especially because most of the regulars know to just play it cool and appreciate when updates do come, knowing that it is being worked on.
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I have a feeling its gonna come sooner than we think. Might be as a surprise update that they dont tell us about and we just find out ourselves.
whats going to happen once everything is working on this build? No one would have anything to nag about to developers then... it be funny alot of times reading these threads with same questions asked Daily. People want to jump right into the mix without doing their own research. a little reading goes a long way up here, seriously.
Developers are awesome! Whoever complains is an unappreciative bastard.
After using it for a couple of days, I think power management is in higher priority for me. The battery runs way too hot and battery lasts a short period of time. With proper power management, we can use touch pro2 as everyday phone as long as legs or waists can sense vibration.
Sound is the next priority.
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Developers are awesome! Whoever complains is an unappreciative bastard.
After using it for a couple of days, I think power management is in higher priority for me. The battery runs way too hot and battery lasts a short period of time. With proper power management, we can use touch pro2 as everyday phone as long as legs or waists can sense vibration.
Sound is the next priority.
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PM is working
Are you OC'd or something? Battery lasts almost as long as WM and doesnt run hot at all on mine.
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Developers are awesome! Whoever complains is an unappreciative bastard.
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These kind of posts are funny because they strike me as being overly sensitive.
If you read the original post, it is NOT a complaint. And he wasn't being unappreciative. And no one said the Dev. are not awesome.
looks like someone had too much coffee.
i'll agree with outback,battery runs hot and battery does not last nearly as long as a normal winmo 6.5 boot. I don't think pm has been implemented