Xda developers community,
Here I sit at the end of approximately 78 hours of a joyfully sleep deprived journey of pure tech excitement. It all started with my two month old G1 Dream, which I am crazy about, suddenly began to annoy me with its ridiculously small internal memory. I offered my dilemma to the overlord of infinite knowledge, Google, and all roads kept leading me here. I began to read, found answers,and developed the uncontrollable urge to join the action. I've read, rooted, rommed, wiped, re-rooted, re-rommed, nearly bricked, cried, picked myself up, read some more, fixed, and utterly tweaked my G1 into a steroid laced technological work of art. Twice I wanted to ask questions but fought my hands away from the keyboard as I read the seemingly harsh and usually condescending replies as my fellow noobs received. Quick and deadly were the Chinese stars of sarcasm as they split their heads open, ending each post with "you would have found this if you'd just taken the time to read the forum". Each one of them ending in that little blue "Link of Shame" they provide linking you right to the detailed answer that was posted like two weeks ago. Not me....no sir! I decided to read and discover the what lies within for myself. I'm so glad I did too because I've learned more about my G1 here in three days than all my accumulated phone knowledge combined. This place is a tech-rebels think tank of knowledge from some really knowledgeable people. Everything I studied and tried was 100% accurate and easy to follow. Thanks to all of you for sharing your discoveries with all of us "Noobs" out here. I'm hooked on XDA! Sleep.....we don't need sleep where we're going....STANDBY FOR REBOOT!!
Welcome to forums
Great and nice words of introduction
Read, Search, Respect and Enjoy!!
Enjoy this great forum! Read, Search, and Happy Flashing
That has to be the best first post I've ever read....
Congrats on all that you've learned.
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Xda developers community,
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Welcome to the "family" I too followed your process....
So 'cool' yet spending way to much free time will be the thing to look out for....
Really, Your post is outstanding....wish it could be on all ROM's 1st page...
PM me if you ever need to...DID you know to click on the persons name (top left of their post) to PM them and/or see all their postings....a quick way to get help I have found....
Nice post and welcome to the forums!
We were all "noobs" once mate, at least you did the right thing and read up.
Far too many "users" here just want answers, finding them for yourself is far more satisfying.
So now you've read up on the Billions of pages and dug your way through the hundreds of forums, when will you be releasing your first Rom?
LoL
Welcome to the forums mate, may you be stuck here forever like the rest us!
Cheers,
Beasty
Welcome to your Home!!!
That's similar to what I experienced sometimes. But if you read and read and then you ask about something that "is there" and you did not find, I think nobody will throw you to the lions.
Now, enjoy... and help make this site greater !
I'm a carrier for the XDA virus....
I raced to the office today to ignore the growing pile of work on my desk, darted past my idiot boss mumbling something about deadlines or some crap, and sat down to start the day off with a triple espresso and a theme flash straight from the XDA threads. As I waited for my phone to reboot I started feeling the sharp pinch of conviction. All day long people, myself included, run to the elite developers of XDA for endless advice on flashing, features, firmware,roots, roms, and recovery screens and freely download to their hearts content. Then strut around showing everyone there phones as if they were some sort of underworld hackers. But does anyone stop to think about all the endless hours or trial and error, defeat, lines of code, complaints, and everything else that goes into these works of art? Each day I learn a little something more and gain a deeper insight on the hard work that so many put in so that I can carry around my super fast , fully loaded, and ready to tether G1 each day. Allthough I really dont think these folks do what they do for fame or fortune, I still feel like I need to give credit where obvious credit is due. Thanks for the hard work, warm welcomes, and dead on advice I recieve each day here. And the flavor of the day today is an RC29 build, Cyanogen pimped out recovery and his latest update, very nice "Black Ice" theme, and a phone I cant seem to put down. Oh crap...here comes that jack a** boss of mine and my boot loader is stuck in a loop. I gotta start establishing better priorities.......like getting up and closing my office door so I can wipe and reflash this bad boy!!
Hihi.. nice writing.
Welcome on board.
Grtz Leo
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JASJAM, Kyphur, LVSW, TripleDes, WPbear and all the others who have combined efforts to produce an amazing set of files which make our devices what they should be to begin with; Thank you so much for all of your hard work.
I have long surfed these forums and can honestly say I would probably not like my Cingular 8525 nearly as much without all of the useful information and upgrades that all of you have provided.
Like many of you there have been a lot of sleepless nights this last week. I have flashed nearly a 2 dozen times and have finally settled on, Jasjam's WMVI Black Edition, with Radio 1.34. I can't believe how smooth and solid and fast my 8525 is now (Not to mention beautiful). I for one, and I think the community at large, owe you guys all big props and respect.
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05 APRIL 2007:
Well, I have been sitting here most of the morning reading all of the chaos and hubbub over Black 2.0 and it's decommissioning, and I realize how torn I am.
I was very lucky that after a few days away from the boards that I happened to come back on Tuesday and was actually able to download Black 2.0 before things got crazy. Of course I immediately installed it. It is quite literally PERFECT in my estimation. It installed quickly and Flawlessly and has been Lightning-Fast and Rock-Solid since then. I didn't think it could get any better than it did when I got Black 1.2. I was so ecstatic! I immediately ran to paypal and pumped $15 into your wife's shoe fund, JasJamming. (Us shoe loving women gotta stick together! Yes there are indeed a few of us women hanging around the techie boys.) I have spent the past 2 days literally bouncing off the walls with joy over my now, nearly, Perfect Cingular 8525.
To my shock when I popped in this morning, just to see how everything was going, I saw the horrible news. Though I honestly don't see why there are so many redundant questions on the board, it's not my place to question it either. I simply enjoy looking and learning from all of the other great minds across the world. True Globalization at its finest. How sad it is that in an age when everyone can literally find out anything if they choose, most prefer to simply sit back and let other people do it for them.
Here is where I am torn. On the one hand I understand the frustration you and the other Chefs must feel, Jasjamming. It must be absolutely infuriating to spend so much hard work and a ton of time doing something you really enjoy doing and offering your work up for FREE public consumption, only to then be treated as though you just unleashed the plague. So I can see why you choose to not continue the public advancement of your Black VI build for the Hermes.
On the other side of the coin however, I have found your work to be truly addicting and amazing and am thoroughly annoyed and frustrated that I will no longer be able to have your input and foundations upon which to build my perfect Phone. Truly heartbreaking indeed.
I do hope that one day things settle back down enough that people can once again use theses forums in the spirit they were intended and fun can continue to reign supreme for those who enjoy modding their phones.
In the end, after venting all of this on my keyboard, I realize that it is of course your right and your decision to pull support for Black VI. But I am sad, and your contributions will be sorely missed. I am not sure of the exchange rate between the US and Australia but I hope my little drop in the bucket does get your wife a cute new pair of shoes and that you can still sneak in a cold one with my thanks.
Thank you.
Melanie
Tampa, FL
Thanks for your comments melanie,
its comments like this that make it all worth while; people enjoy the contributions.
Welcome to the community...
Glad to hear I'm not the only one who isn't sleeping lately .
Congrats on your having the patience to read and study before simply diving into the deep end.
I want to say thank you to all our Rom Chefs as well. I just want to run through the streets skipping and singing.
You guys are so awesome. One day we're wondering if we'll have roms at all, the next day we have WM6, the day after that 5 versions....
How sweet it is......
Agree!
Yes, I have been a long time XDA user, started with a Blue Angel, then went to a Wizard and how I have the Hermes. On all of them, without exception, these forums and the Dev's that make them worthwhile have been essential to me in order to get the most from these devices. My latest device, the Hermes, had HORRIBLE battery life out of the box from Cingular, I'm talking less than a day on normal to light use. After upgrading to first Kyphur's WM6 and now LVSW's WM6 and going to 1.34 radio; my battery lasts about as long as my Wizard's did. Thanks fellas, nice work, you all make our devices what they should be.
@kyphur,
Congrats on your soon purchase and I hope all goes well (watchout for last minute changes or details). My heart was hanging until I got the keys, walked out of the lawyer's office, and got in my car. Moving was crazy but not stressfull. Good luck with everything and looking forward to .30.
am on xda live 2.0 now, wanted to try the others but the new xdalive start up screen's so beautiful... haha
Thank you to everyone who has made running Windows Mobile 6 possible. I have been a lurker on here for a while, but just recently signed up.
With all of the great information on here I managed to update my Radio and my OS with no trouble at all.
Thanks again guys.
-Kai
although it may seem boring for other readers, I MUST say, as well, thank you from all my heart, not only for allowing us to uncover the inner beauty of these devices, but as well for the opportunity to spend time with you gyus, by reading the forum and trying all the different combinations, softwares, aso.
Its becoming addictive, and for that, Thank You!
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I want to thank you guys also. Your sleepless nights, genuine brilliance and talent are really appreciated by me and I'm sure many many others.
I've got to add my thanks to everyone for the hard work, great forum etc...
And to EVERYONE, if you're getting as much out of this forum as I am how about a small donation - either to the gurus direct or to the xda-dev site. Someone out there is paying for our privelege of a 'free' forum.
Appreciation
Well, I have been sitting here most of the morning reading all of the chaos and hubbub over Black 2.0 and it's decommissioning, and I realize how torn I am.
I was very lucky that after a few days away from the boards that I happened to come back on Tuesday and was actually able to download Black 2.0 before things got crazy. Of course I immediately installed it. It is quite literally PERFECT in my estimation. It installed quickly and Flawlessly and has been Lightning-Fast and Rock-Solid since then. I didn't think it could get any better than it did when I got Black 1.2. I was so ecstatic! I immediately ran to paypal and pumped $15 into your wife's shoe fund, JasJamming. (Us shoe loving women gotta stick together! Yes there are indeed a few of us women hanging around the techie boys.) I have spent the past 2 days literally bouncing off the walls with joy over my now, nearly, Perfect Cingular 8525.
To my shock when I popped in this morning, just to see how everything was going, I saw the horrible news. Though I honestly don't see why there are so many redundant questions on the board, it's not my place to question it either. I simply enjoy looking and learning from all of the other great minds across the world. True Globalization at its finest. How sad it is that in an age when everyone can literally find out anything if they choose, most prefer to simply sit back and let other people do it for them.
Here is where I am torn. On the one hand I understand the frustration you and the other Chefs must feel, Jasjamming. It must be absolutely infuriating to spend so much hard work and a ton of time doing something you really enjoy doing and offering your work up for FREE public consumption, only to then be treated as though you just unleashed the plague. So I can see why you choose to not continue the public advancement of your Black VI build for the Hermes.
On the other side of the coin however, I have found your work to be truly addicting and amazing and am thoroughly annoyed and frustrated that I will no longer be able to have your input and foundations upon which to build my perfect Phone. Truly heartbreaking indeed.
I do hope that one day things settle back down enough that people can once again use theses forums in the spirit they were intended and fun can continue to reign supreme for those who enjoy modding their phones.
In the end, after venting all of this on my keyboard, I realize that it is of course your right and your decision to pull support for Black VI. But I am sad, and your contributions will be sorely missed. I am not sure of the exchange rate between the US and Australia but I hope my little drop in the bucket does get your wife a cute new pair of shoes and that you can still sneak in a cold one with my thanks.
Namaste,
Melanie Boucher
Tampa, FL
I to thank all the rom cooks. I have tried all the wm6 releases currently on black 2.0. It's a same that such talent has to deal with all the drama. Looking forward to the next flash.
@excessdivide
Jas will be back... things have gotten better, and you havent noticed the redundant posts due to some heavy house cleaning that i have been doing.. things are looking better than just a few days ago.. so just sit tight and enjoy the ride!
I'm also new to the forum, found it days after getting my 8525 and it saved me from having to return it. I've been completely fasinated every day with the tweaks and enhancements that continue to roll out. That and the occasional f**kwit floggings delt out keep me comming back for more.
People will plunk down $100 for a Nav prog, $20-50 for any number of simple commercial apps. So dig deep folks into your hearts, if you like this forum and take more from it than you can give (like me, I'm a hardware guy, no programmer), please pop some "buckage" to the Chefs and the Forum. I shot some $$ to JJ for Black2 simply out of respect, this weekend I'll flash to it and if it's as good as I've been reading, I'll be sending what I feel an op system is worth.
I thank all of you for simply taking the time to document what you do, so others like me can share in your world.
shogunmark,
Thank you. I feel I should tell you, it was actually your name that first came up on Google many months ago when I started looking for help with my Cingular 8525. I don't honestly remember the problem which sent me searching but I do remember the advice you posted was dead on and very helpful and had me back up and running in an instant. In essence, you were the one who got me addicted to the crack which is XDA-Developers! LOL!
But again, I do want you and all of the other advanced users to know how much your advice and input is appreciated. If I could, I would donate to all of you guys and fund your efforts completely. Alas, it is not my lot in life to be independently wealthy, so my adoration must suffice.
Many Thanks,
Melanie
Tampa, FL
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....(Us shoe loving women gotta stick together! Yes there are indeed a few of us women hanging around the techie boys.)
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Wow, I thought I was the only one! It's good to know other women are interested in modding their phones as well. I have been coming into these forums daily and have really enjoyed reading about all the new updates and tricks and tips. I feel the same way as you about appreciating the rom chefs and other contributors and feel the frustration also of everything else that has been going on here. I can see the housecleaning has been going very well too and that some tempers have settled down and things may be getting back to a more normal environment.
Thanks to all the rom cookers and those that made upgrading much safer and easier.
YAY PhonePhun! I'm not alone! Hahaha! I'm glad to see you around!
I am often teased 'cause I would just as easliy splurge on a pair of Louboutin's as I would an $800 phone!
Anyway, glad to meet ya'!
Cheers!
Melanie
Tampa, FL
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shogunmark,
Thank you. I feel I should tell you, it was actually your name that first came up on Google many months ago when I started looking for help with my Cingular 8525. I don't honestly remember the problem which sent me searching but I do remember the advice you posted was dead on and very helpful and had me back up and running in an instant. In essence, you were the one who got me addicted to the crack which is XDA-Developers! LOL!
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sweet, not only am i mod but i am a pusher also, enjoy your crack
and its nice to see some females add to all the Testosterone floating around in here... glad to see you ladies around!
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shogunmark,
Thank you. I feel I should tell you, it was actually your name that first came up on Google many months ago when I started looking for help with my Cingular 8525. I don't honestly remember the problem which sent me searching but I do remember the advice you posted was dead on and very helpful and had me back up and running in an instant. In essence, you were the one who got me addicted to the crack which is XDA-Developers!
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Funny you should say that since he was also the one who got me to come in here with more interest than I had before that point. For me he had said some really decent stuff on another forum and I wanted to see what more really decent things he had to say here LOL, nice meeting you too! Oh, and I know what you mean by the people around me not understanding why this stuff interests me too.
Just wanted to say this is the BEST site on the net I know of for everything there is to know about HTC's like my 8125.My first post here was a dumb question that I had.It only took a few minutes to find perfect answer for it.I've only been playing around with upgrading my phone to WM 6 for a few weeks.When I came to this site...That has changed.I want to learn as much as I can about my 8125.I would like to replace the housing myself when I feel that I can do it myself.So that's it...Thanks to all mods and members for tons of info.
LOL
Glad there was already a thread for praise.
I had an Apache for quite a while before I learned just how amazing that phone could be. Now, I'm on to my Titan & am loving it. If I had to use the phone in its stock form, I'd probably hate it. With what I've learned the phone can do, I love it... and what I've learned, I've largely learned here.
XDA-Dev is fabulous.
Thanks to all!!!!
Welcome to Paradise! And of course Happy Flashing to all the new members!!
I Agree
What can I say...
This site is awesome, however I have also found that you get back what you put in.
Still consider myself a relative newbie but working on that thanks to XDA Developers
i've recently read an article about mobile phones and the scene in a local computer magazine and xda-devs was mentioned as the legend, bible, and all those super-uber-extra-mega praises.. ^^
Without Xda-Dev my diamond would be dead (or maybe just sold
Just have to sign up to thank you guys.
I have been five year Palm but had to jump due to a move to 3G Japan.
After two days I was about to smash my Diamond into little pieces, it was so unresponsive compared to my Palm.
Then I stumbled onto this site and was reminded why it is I chose winmobile, despite it being spawned from the beast.
It's because of you guys, the hackers and tweakers, tirelessly tinkering until perfection. If it wasn't for the tweaks and the utlities (like gsen) my diamond would still be a source of frustration than the delight it has become.
Once I get my finances in order I am definitely going to paypal some cash somewhere. I would super keen to donate to anyone making a system font manager, something that can cleanly link and unlink fonts.
Richie
This is one great site, it is a wealth of info and has got me on my marry way so I thought i best say thanks before I left
THANK YOU
I've decided that as the Desire has such a big fanbase and the forum is so busy, that I'd trial an Off Topic lounge.
This is the place to post all things random and not support related.
There are a few ground rules, nothing too boring, but we do need them!
The most important rule is, follow the Forum Rules!!
Keep it clean, and don't flame other users.
[*]Do Not use this thread to boost your post count so you can post in Development
Most of all, have some fun
As this is a trial if you have any issues or problems here, please PM me.
awesomeness
cool idea...this can be a nice place to boast how awesome our rom is
I'm currently using a modified version of Leedroid 2.4.1.
This is a Data++ version with CM7 hboot built by Ed Roid (member of Frandroid), I must admit it is very fast and reliable.
Wow i love this forum its the complete opposite to what i'm used to. Normally i would expect a thread to be derailed withing a page, here however try and go off topic here and it takes less than two posts to be back on topic.
Spin Dr Wolf said:
Wow i love this forum its the complete opposite to what i'm used to. Normally i would expect a thread to be derailed withing a page, here however try and go off topic here and it takes less than two posts to be back on topic.
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Oh believe me, threads here can be derailed in seconds and forever if they get the chance. Lol.
It has probably died down a bit in the Desire forums now, but I remember a time a post would have been reported, and within 15 minutes there were about 30 replies to the problem post
I loved my Desire when I had it. I actually miss it now
cool idea... using desire since few month, i m so impressed by android just got a bargain with xperia mini pro for my son... running stock andro 2.1... actually don't know much about it but he dosen't want i touch it
i know this is not desire supported whilst it's about android os
tks Rolfd
Custom Rom
Heya, I just instaled my 1st custom rom . I've always been rooted but i used the stock rom. Today i got bored and tried robocik's RCMix on my Desire. Working wonderful! I'm so happy i did it
Had my desire for just over a month, tried about 5 or 6 different ROMs, sticking with CM7, usually the latest nightly build, havent s-offed, dont really see the advantage?? Running CM7 nightly 64, with a 512MB ext3 partition sd-ext, I LOVE MY DESIRE!
Nice Idea, I am swinging between Roms Almost on Daily basis and then i keep myself busy restoring everything.
I am also planning to release my own custom ROM, lets see when i will be able to do that (Still is Alpha phase)
Had my desire about a year now and running Oxygen 2.1.2
Just had a look round at the new phones available and I've got to say there's nothing really around to make me want to upgrade yet (maybe the Samsung Galaxy 2S)
Anybody bored with their desire and waiting for a new phone on the way?
I would love to help someone make a ROM but I have no idea where to start or what I need to do? Any help? Thanks
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk
I had a strange dream last night that in the future we all lived underground, but people kept the nicer part of the world a secret from us(me), but eventually some guard-type guy led me to an old workshop to get water and I found both of my cats there - after feeding them popcorn and making sure they were safe I found some sort of board and found a massive tube system that the nicer parts in levels above used as an entertainment place - with arcades and stuff in it...
weirdness!
Any dream interepters on the forum ?
Spin Dr Wolf said:
Any dream interepters on the forum ?
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Or psychiatrists? lol
It could be that there is a girl/woman in your life that you do not really trust.
Or you can try to stop smoking a certain herb before going to bed
I've been using htc desire for a year now, its a cool phone but iphone still rocks..
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I've been using htc desire for a year now, its a cool phone but iphone still rocks..
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BANNED!! And I propose that the next person that posts anything to do with actual Desire/ROM/Dev discussion shall be whipped with a wet lettuce leaf
I, however made the mistake of telling this chick that I have been seeing on a friends basis that I am crazy about her the other day...it's actually waaaay more than friends, and she knows it, but it's complicated. We spend a lot of time together, she stays over most weekends, we usually shower together, we kiss, cuddle, go out to dinner, shopping and the whole kaboodle...we are not "sleeping together" though...she is not ready for proper committment, she tells me...or am I expecting too much??
I am 37 years old, and I feel like a love sick pimple faced child. Maybe it is I that needs whipping with the wet lettuce leaf...
I love this forum, I feel better already
And let the flaming commence
@777ace and how are things after you said that...?
I took my cat out to the car to go to the vets and then went back to lock the front door and he decided that was a good time to go to the toilet.... causing me to take him back inside - clean up and then be late for the vet (he's fine though, just getting over a bad illness-type-thing)
Lol, I have two cats also! I have been lucky in that they've not (yet) gotten really sick though...the bills for nuetering and worm treatments etc were horrendous enough! Any vets here??
As to my problem...everything is cool. I tend to over analyse the crap out of everything and probably miss the forest for the trees most of the time. Thinking over the whole situation, if she didn't feel the same way I do, she probably wouldn't do all of those things with me and make time in her life for me, so I guess I just gotta play it cool and take it real slow....
Good going, as long as things are well now!
Last nights strange dream was I was driving down a really steep hill (and it had a mcdonalds halfway down for some reason), and saw some woman pushing her car up the hill near the McDs - she said she was fine, got that far and I asked why she wasnt calling someone to get it repaired, she said her boyf coudl fix it at the top of the hill, so I stopped and locked up my car and helped her push it to the top - right near the top there was a flood of water that rushed down and pushed the car back a bit - but we carried on and got it to the top of the hill where she said she was going to see her boyf - however, he happened to open the door and be like 'OMG what are you doing here?' then you heard his wife in the background coming to see what's going on... and I just up and left her there sorting out her own mess.
what's the moral of that story?
Remember how in High School or College you would have to DO YOUR RESEARCH to find your information before turning it in to your teacher or professor?...So far in the past 12 months this XDA School Research Skill and Overall GPA has dropped. In this SGSII class of the school, we are bringing our GPA up, and now we are on a level thats "considered passing". I was a new student in this class about 2 weeks ago and everyone made me feel like I was at home, but the rest of the school im not to sure about. XDA school was the one everyone went to about everything Android. Now since the teachers and students are slowly turning in degrees, we are loosing a lot of our students and teachers to other schools. We cannot let this happen because this is where it all started. We have to start gaining the quality of our school back, our prestige is dropping.
So lets get started...
Instead of teachers having to spend extra time assisting students, students should learn to RESEARCH and Experiment on their own time. Teachers only volunteer at this school. No paychecks, pensions, workman's compensation, just breaks and retiremen. Teachers should help students more and explain things more in a detailed fashion. XDA School is changing so we have to change with it. Dont fight it, go with the flow and make it work for everyone. There has to be a line to draw in the middle, where students can help one another, troubleshoot, and have fun with the teachers. Im a teacher myself and comming up with lesson plans that will hold everyone in the class over until I write a new one is not easy. Sleep is lost, donations are good, but overall not good enough to deal with the stress in our personal lives because we all go through it. Competition is always present but thats no excuse for teachers to critique other teachers. We may not be together in reality but we are a community, so lets act like it.
:-D
_Thursday
good luck. Popularity of this site attracts the people in school who just want to get by and have all the answers given to them. I can't see this thread going in the right direction. These threads just make things worse to be honest
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good luck. Popularity of this site attracts the people in school who just want to get by and have all the answers given to them...
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to be specific
... on a silver platter and spoon fed
it's not just this section, it's all over XDA, all the popular devices are like that, even the new GN section
jessejames111981 said:
good luck. Popularity of this site attracts the people in school who just want to get by and have all the answers given to them. I can't see this thread going in the right direction. These threads just make things worse to be honest
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I just thought it more people were aware of the issues we would be able to fix them together. Ill just have the principle close the class down if students and or teachers start to bring it down.
_Thursday
AllGamer said:
to be specific
... on a silver platter and spoon fed
it's not just this section, it's all over XDA, all the popular devices are like that, even the new GN section
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Thats such a shame, i have been around since android rooting started and being here on XDA was considered a privilege
_Thursday
I miss people being go getters and trying to learn stuff themselves. I think everyone is willing to help a noob but only if they are willing to help themselves. That's what we have a lack of, people trying to help themselves.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using xda premium
xsteven77x said:
I miss people being go getters and trying to learn stuff themselves. I think everyone is willing to help a noob but only if they are willing to help themselves. That's what we have a lack of, people trying to help themselves.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using xda premium
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The worse part about it is, the quality of the issues people report in threads. Most of the time they are "non issue issues" Meaning its not a bug in the ROM just a problem that they are having.
They will post their problem and hope for someone to get a fix for them and get upset when people flame them. The people who can fix the problem have no right to flame either. Fighting fire with fire has become way to common here. The people dont say things like "I looked online in such and such place but i dont understand what its telling me, or this method is outdated any updates on it", nothing like that, that shows they were putting fourth an effort in the first place. It was such a joy for me to research and learn because it led me to create ROMs and themes. I felt a lot better when I figured out how to fix my own problems and it made me a better Rooted android user.
I think te problem is "free stuff" attracts those type of people. Google has done a great thing with the open source stuff. I wish there was a system in place that encouraged organized companies to produce ROMs, granite that means those roms would be pay only and the current system doesn't work with it. You can choose to stick with the stock touchwiz rom OR you could pay to run aosp made by company X or you could download a free rom made by thursday. How much has this community donated to various devs in "hopes" they dev something good?
Android has blown up recently and people like to customize their phone. Old days of only tech geeks using roms are gone. People need answers fed to them. If they paid money for a rom they should be entitled to those answers given to them.
Agreed..
DARKSIDE...join us we have nice treats T989
jessejames111981 said:
I think te problem is "free stuff" attracts those type of people. Google has done a great thing with the open source stuff. I wish there was a system in place that encouraged organized companies to produce ROMs, granite that means those roms would be pay only and the current system doesn't work with it. You can choose to stick with the stock touchwiz rom OR you could pay to run aosp made by company X or you could download a free rom made by thursday. How much has this community donated to various devs in "hopes" they dev something good?
Android has blown up recently and people like to customize their phone. Old days of only tech geeks using roms are gone. People need answers fed to them. If they paid money for a rom they should be entitled to those answers given to them.
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Yea brother, i mean ill say yea again to that one. If people actually paid for me to deliver week in and week out id quit my day job seriously to work right here from home.
if you want money just have sammy start a thread for you
I was here from the start with the G1, granted out was a few months after the release, buy nonetheless I did my own research asked questions when I was TRULY stuck and solved my own problems by searching the threads/forums. People come in here (XDA) and "flame" one another for asking a question and folks that come in here creating threads and posts REPEATEDLY about the same topic. It honestly needs to be stopped and monitored more closely because all it does is clutter threads and makes it difficult for those trying to do it on their own.
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I haven't been here as long as most but since I joined when I purchased my evo it went from thank you to gimme gimme. Not to mention the flame fests,including entire threads filled with pics about the ensuing flame fest. Infractions should start being issued a lot more frequently and even to the point of issuing them to the members who post nothing questions over and over again and get in a tiff when they don't get an answer for "why is my phone crashing after I didn't wipe from cm7 to sense"anyways just wish it would go back to respect and appreciation.
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as ridiculous as it seems, Maybe their should be an entire thread dedicated to a Roms "Issues" - I know creating another thread means another one to view, but jesus think about how many times a market error question could be answered by the title of a thread there and the amount of pages it would save on any given rom. I know this is literally bending to the will of noobs who won't research, but if you can't teach them, at least try to confine them
jessejames111981 said:
if you want money just have sammy start a thread for you
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???...I dont follow you.
I never ask people to donate. Hes doing a bounty to get Eugene373 here.
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hunterjay7 said:
as ridiculous as it seems, Maybe their should be an entire thread dedicated to a Roms "Issues" - I know creating another thread means another one to view, but jesus think about how many times a market error question could be answered by the title of a thread there and the amount of pages it would save on any given rom. I know this is literally bending to the will of noobs who won't research, but if you can't teach them, at least try to confine them
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I see what your saying but that defeats the purpose, if i create a market error thread, then theyll ask for just about everything, the flood gates would open right up. If people would stop being lazy then everything would be ok.
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jessejames111981 said:
if you want money just have sammy start a thread for you
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Lol
SGSII T989~ juggernaut v4.1~synergy v0.10
jessejames111981 said:
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lmfao 10char
_Thursday said:
???...I dont follow you.
I never ask people to donate. Hes doing a bounty to get Eugene373 here.
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Its an inside joke (a good one too) based on the amount of bounty threads he does and how quick he is to start them.
Reading this thread bummed me out. I'm somewhat new to all of this, and in the last couple of months have learned an INSANE amount about the android OS and how to make it "mine". I would have never been able to do so without the much appreciated help of all the knowledgeable people here on XDA. Yes, I agree, there are a crazy amount of duplicate posts, and pricks, and mindless idiots who for some reason have no issue posting a bash on a hard working dev for no apparent reason (f#& k those morons). Here is my question. What do you think of someone like me, who asks questions when he is stuck, and probably will continue to do so whenever he is hopelessly stuck, but always shows appreciation for valuable help received? There seem to be plenty of people here who enjoy helping noobs like me. I've helped a few, and it felt pretty good.
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I guess you could say I'm still a newb when it comes to Android. I've had my GS2 Skyrocket for a half a year now and I'm so glad I ended up going with Android over my originally planned WP7.
I came to XDA because my friend pointed me here when I was anxiously awaiting news about the official ICS upgrade for my Skyrocket, and I've ended up kind of sticking around. I lurked for a while, checking out the forum and trying to glean what I could about the advanced side of Android (e.g. flashing, recovery, etc...) but I finally decided to join, partially because I wanted to "thank" people like Seanz who make the ROMs and software I'm using (still haven't figure out how to "thank" yet though. I'm guessing an advance feature that I'll unlock at 10 posts?)
So far, I'm pretty darn impressed with XDA. It's a VAST forum, fully alive (unlike my previous forum, Zuneboards, which was dying out when I first joined it.) The mods seem to do an excellent job keeping things on topic and clean, and I'm happy to not see too much flaming of the n00bs that occasionally seem to pop up. I used to be a moderator at the previously mentioned Zuneboards, so I'm pretty familliar with forum etiquette, so hopefully I'll be recieved well here.
Anyways, I hope to stay a while here and really get involved, as I think it's a lot of fun to get involved with a large community forum, and I've missed it since I left Zuneboards. Just figured I'd let you guys know that I'm pretty impressed so far and to keep up the good work! Thanks!
Welcome to XDA. It sounds like you won't need most of this, and please don't think I am offering any insults but you might find some useful stuff.
[GUIDE] How to be a New User (and not a noob)
Oh hey! So THAT's when I get the thanks button! Time to go back and thank the guys who made the stuff I'm using! Thanks for the welcome too.