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I have been sent a link from O2 Data Support for downloading the new XDA2s ROM upgrade, which apparently will fix the Bluetooth problems.
The link is...
http://www.sourceo2.com/O2_Developers/Devices/O2_Xda_II/XdaIIs_launchROM.htm
Haven't done anything with it yet, but thought you guys might like to know...
regards,
Guy
Hmm I wonder if I can use this update on my O2 Xda2s.
I got it in Malasyia.
Noel
I installed it on my UK XDA 2s, I will report back later.
In the PDF it's saying that this version is only for devices sold by O² UK or O² Ireland... Not sure if I should give it a go on my version..
Noel
I think I might wait and see what others say about this before I install it myself. So many that have it already say it is great but then you hear others say it has caused problems.
That post is the launch rom, not an upgrade. LMAO It is intended for people who attempt to flash the XDA IIs with a different vendors rom and screw it up.
Mike
Nope, its not, click the link. O2 are obviously just too lazy to create a new page for a new rom!
Nigel
HAHA you are correct!!! LMAO oh well. :shock: :lol:
Hi..have installed the update..and have encountered several problems...was wondering if anyone could help me.
I hate the fact that the clock has disappeared from the top right so whe u are using applications its no longer visible. Is there any way of bring it back?
Also now when you click the o2 at the top it dosn't give the active connections anymore. Therefore whats the quickest way to disconnect the gprs? and is there any way of bringing that back to how it used to be?
I have also had to reset my phone more often that I had to before.
Was wondering if anyone had encountered the same problems and how to resolve them.
Thanks so much...
Bit the bullet and upgraded last night, wifi still works and as I use Corporate mode I don't get any issues with 02 active, icons or clocks. All seems normal, so far!
Have to agree with Dave. I finally bit the bullet and installed the update last night. Don't like the new O2 active and put the clock straight back with the registry key.
Other than the missing clock and poor O2 Active software which I never use anyway no real problems. Tom Tom still works fine with my Bluetooth GPS receiver. WIFI still works fine with WPA security and everything locked down on the access point.
Still receive SMS notification and its nice that you're not limited to 70 char when using ' in sms text messages now!
All ok.
har5ha:
Just get the old O2 active back. To to this, head to the xda-dev FTP site, find the old O2 XDA IIs extended rom, pull it, find the file install.ARM.CAB (O2 active)
Sync/backup yr stuff then hard reset the XDA IIs, and let it do its stuff. When leave it to install the extended rom, but be ready to soft reset it when you get asked the 'corporate/personal' question (you'll have to watch the screen since there is a timeout). Once it reboots, copy install.ARM.CAB to the machine, and execute it. It will soft reset yr device at the end.
I use 2 things from O2 active, the battery plugin and the O2 icon to kill connections. Shame billy did not think to include a disconnect dialogue as well really (he put on in for vpn).
There might be a way to install old over new, dunno. I tried and it locks loads of files (even if you prevent it from loading).
Nigel
thanks Nigel...I ended up installing gb soft for the disconnect button.
So its ok...still getting loads of crashing. I think am going to reinstall it and then use corporate mode..hopefully it will crash less!
can I get an update on xda iis rom update
Hi all, I'm still new to this whole thing but reading and researching all I can. Don't have an xda iis as of yet, but on the high streets waiting list. I like the phone and in one way, can't wait, but don't want problems when I get it, especially at the price. Can anyone on o2 that has purchased their phone from o2 let me know how you are getting on...problems...ect, before and after the update.? To be honest, I'm a bit afraid to bite the bullet and get one right now due to what I'm hearing...especially since I'm not very computer smart. I do understand that it depends a lot on the manufacturer of the phone but if I had problems like I'm hearing about it would really do my head in...(no patience). Thanks
Well I love my phone to bits...had issues with the update but now that I have hard reset it and put it corporate mode its not freezing anymore.
But you have to remember its a pocket pc...like a pc..will need to be reset every so often...I was resetting mine of average once a day. It just takes a minute.
There are some negative points..but the positive outweighs the negative I think. My old pda was palm os (clie) and this is windows which is really good! As well as the fact that it has a phone built in too!
Hi all.
Can you please post some more feedback on this rom.
How is the BT stability?
Range?
Crackling noise?
License Expired troubbles?
I know its Build 3500, but maybe something else in this rom makes a difference.
How about the problem with sound dissapering when you answer a call.
Any troubbles here? This is really a pain in the (_!_)
Running the New Rom for a couple of days now and it seems much better than the launch Rom, The O2 active stuff is just as pants as usual so remove that and the "Connections" exe from Windows\startup.
Best thing is that it's stopped the annoying bug of the GPRS settings being screwed up when you enable/disable Wi-Fi.
Recommend it myself
Password
Anybody knows the password for this rom
PDA2K Upgrade
Hi, Can this rom replace the i mate rom on the 2K.& If so will it then be sim locked to O2? as I want to use an O2 pay as you go, & T-mobile sim
many thanks in advance............
Hi all, well, i have the newest version of the o2 rom installed on my xda2s that i downloaded from o2 website. now my first question is this,
1) can i downgrade to a previous operating system and if yes, then how and where can i download it, if not then i need help with the following....
2) after a hard reset or a clean install with the new rom, after the o2 active stuff has installed, my xda2s seems to crash all the time, now i noticed it too much 2 weeks after i got it, and sent it to the o2 shop for them to have a look at it, and didnt get it back for a few weeks... NOT A GOOD START.. i got it back and had an older version of windows 2003 second edition installed, so it looked like they just wiped it and put an earlier(more stable) version back on.... now i decided to take a chance and tried the windows mobile 2005 but no luck, so had to download and install from o2.co.uk
and now im back to square 1. crashes 5-6 times a day
3) also relating to the above, if i hard reset or clean install, before o2 active stuff is installed, i have a digital clock in the corner of my screen top right, after o2 active install its gone, i cant get it back, Any ideas how to solve this, its doing my head in as i like to look at the time on it....
i tried the hard reset and switch off before anything installs and also the corporate option too, i couldnt connect to internet and also couldnt send text doing that, and i do actually like the o2 stuff...... i edont use o2 active, but like the battery plugin and the o2 themes and phone skin.
is there another way round this or am i just buggered beyond help????
at least if i can download any previous versions of the o2 version o2 windows mobile 2003 2nd edition, that would be great!!!
anyway chaps, please help
take care guys.....
joey.
You could try here ......
http://www.sourceo2.com/O2_Developers/Devices/O2_Xda_II/XdaIIs_launchROM.htm
They seem to have the old XDAII launch rom's too.
Rich
Mine was just the same until I removed all the O2 crap, can't even remember the last time I had to even soft reset but guessing at least a month!
Trick is to put machine into Corporate mode after doing a hard reset (use 0506 when asked for code) you will then get a clean WM2003SE install with NO O2 rubbish. You still even get the O2 GPRS/MMS settings etc..
Worked for me and several others on here
wilesd said:
Mine was just the same until I removed all the O2 crap, can't even remember the last time I had to even soft reset but guessing at least a month!
Trick is to put machine into Corporate mode after doing a hard reset (use 0506 when asked for code) you will then get a clean WM2003SE install with NO O2 rubbish. You still even get the O2 GPRS/MMS settings etc..
Worked for me and several others on here
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i could quite be an odd FM then, cos this i tried after reading and trying things i see in these forums, this forum is by far the best i found an i plan on staying, I even work for o2 and they can even be bothered to help me
i tried clean install by removing battery before any crap is installed, this worked but no settings, i tried corporate mode, no joy, also in corporate mode my mms and txt and gprs settings were there, but would not connect, so im back to the full whack, with o2 active, I have to admit, i like the o2 active and all the skins and stuff, so id like not to loose them, i tried corporate all day yesterday and noticed that my battery lasted twice as long. so maybe corporate is the best option i dunno, but i really wanna get to a previous version and try that, so ...........
fishmedia
PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 13:15 Post subject:
You could try here ......
http://www.sourceo2.com/O2_Developers/Devices/O2_Xda_II/XdaIIs_launchROM.htm
They seem to have the old XDAII launch rom's too.
Rich
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i shall try the above, Cheers rich...........
if anyone else has any more ideas, please post them!!!!
ps, if im honest, it was ok until i tried to install windows mobile 2005, :roll:
my own fault! :roll:
:? my qtek9090 phone since ive got it about 4 months ago, i noticed that the phone sometimes does not work properly. Sometimes the other person on the other line cant hear me, nor at times as well i cant hear the other person on the other line. I have to soft reset the phone always when this happens. Is this natural?
P.S. I love this phone but sometimes its annoying. :evil:
Welcome along - the Blue Angel does this - rather than a full reset turn the BT On then OFF and you will find the audio works next time you need it - pain but far quicker than a reset - The new O2 ROM download does seem to cure this problem I have run the O2XDAIIs for five days with no lockups since loading the new ROM so perhaps they have sorted this out - Mike
Thanks
Thanks mate, i guess ill have to live with it. I like this phone as it is very useful to my work and studies. Though a pain in the ass when going out with friends on parties. :wink:
:?: (My problem is im in orange, and not an O2 customer, do you think it would work?)
i'm using o2 rom on a pda2k, no problems :lol:
i'm using O² asian ROM on my MDA III works fine...
Can someone please share their experience.
I am interrested to know how the devices perform in the Corporate install of the O2 and the JasJar.
Having used both I would recommend the o2 Exec ROM, I've ended up reverting back to this due to stability issues with the Imate ROM. Both ROM's will need registry hacks, go with the o2 one running in corporate mode.
The corporate with the code 0506?
Is the pocket MSN there on that configuration?
Which one is the most generic config?
a18041967 said:
Having used both I would recommend the o2 Exec ROM, I've ended up reverting back to this due to stability issues with the Imate ROM. Both ROM's will need registry hacks, go with the o2 one running in corporate mode.
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Is it possible to flash a Jasjar with the O2 ROM? If so will I lose anything?
skearon said:
a18041967 said:
Having used both I would recommend the o2 Exec ROM, I've ended up reverting back to this due to stability issues with the Imate ROM. Both ROM's will need registry hacks, go with the o2 one running in corporate mode.
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Is it possible to flash a Jasjar with the O2 ROM? If so will I lose anything?
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Yes,you can flash any ROM to your Jasjar , you will lose your setting email..etc,others same as new.
I have just loaded my MDA PRO with the O2 ROM, and tryed all the possible installs (basic, Corporate with code 0506 and personal)
Only the Corporate one is really customisation free. I have myself bypassed the extended_ROM so now I have run only one cab the Default_Enable_VT_RTPlugin_0727_2_signed.CAB which is responcible for the video call. Strangely enough I have the same scin in the dialer as I had in the JasJar ROM...
Also as mentioned by... that by O2 ROM the splash screen is not installed it is not true, as right after the upgrade to the O2 ROM and the reset you see the O2 splash screen, which is untill now the nicest looking splash screen.
What I can say after 2 hours of using the O2 ROM is the following:
1. The amount of free program memory after reset is the same as by JasJar ROM.
2. The device is at least twice as fast as with the JasJar ROM.
Conclusion for now I am much happier with the O2 ROM. Much more stable and responsive.
As I am using Jasjar and after your comments I am considering moving to o2 could you tell me how you configured your Jasjar? Specifically, I am using my jasjar without the extended rom except for the video dialler and the bluetooth patch. It is generally running well except for the need to hard reset once in a while. When comparing with the O2 were you also using Jasjar without extenstion?
Thanks, apap
Having used both ROMs, I think they're essentially the same ROM with a few minor branding cosmetic mods... The two ROMs are only dated 2 wks apart and doubt there are any major differences.
To be honest, I couldn't find any performance gain or loose using either one of them and the O2 ROM seem to be slightly smaller in size (maybe due to the additional Imate games/themes etc?) So after going Imate ROM with O2 extended ROM, I went back to all O2 ROM..
I have a Jasjar. Due to the machine freezing occassionally on arrival of a new SMS I would like to give the O2 ROM a try.
I shall be obliged if someone can tell me that when I have installed the O2 ROM and would like to go back to the i-mate ROM would this be possible. What is the procedure to revert from O2 ROM back to the I-mate ROM.
I will appreciate your help
Regards
OK boys and girls...
I have tryed the O2 ROM the whole day yesterday and last night late reverted to JasJar ROM. Reason: maybe I did something wrong but in corporate install of the O2 ROM with the code 0506 but I had no pdf reader which is unfortunately a crucial software for me. I have tried to install it from the cabs of the O2 ROM and from JasJar ROM but it would not work. Of course the solution might be to get a cracked version. But that fact pissed me off so much that I have loudly cursed O2 and reverted to JasJar.
Observations: I have noticed that O2 ROM has more program memory when you reset the device but once you use the thing the amount of program ROM is the same as in JasJar. So the fact that just after the soft reset there is more ROM is actually not interresting. I also found that in the O2 ROM there is a problem with the start menu opening up first time after a soft reset (If you soft reset the device and then for the first time click on start it takes 10-13 seconds to open it up) and this issue was the biggest issue for me to change to O2 ROM. Pocket MSN seemed to work faster and is more responsive on the O2 and maybe overal performance is a little notch better then JasJar. The Bootup Splash screen on the O2 is much nicer then on JasJar it is really sharp and cool
Conclusions: If you like experimenting try out the O2 ROM because you get to see also (if you try out the Personal install) how badly an operator can F*** up the device, it is beyond my understanding but it is hideous their Launch software, the screen looks like a battle field and I get dizzy looking at it, the task manager which it installs is such a crap only due to a fact that once you close all the progs with the task manager the task manager is still running so to close it too you have to go to settings ->system->memory and close it from there. I can understand that the task manager which you can use from your today screen has to be running in order to work but this task manager you have to start by going to programs and starting it manually, It is comepletely beyond me what is the purpose of such a task manger, but hey maybe I am STUPID ???
The battery icon moved next to the start I can understand the handyness of this, but the O2 icon which does not do anything is also comepletely beyond my understanding. Plus when changing the screen orientation the battery and the O2 icons suddenly get a darker background and it looks like it hangs, but it only looks like it the device does not hang, but it is still an ugly sight to see...
If you opt for the Corporate install with the 0506 code I think you are fine the machine performs as it should, and is very stable, no O2 annoyances and no O2 **** to be seen apart from a couple of icons in the Programs. One of them is the O2 install which I beleive supposed to allow you to change your install type, without making a hard reset, but of course it only works in one direction, meaning that if you have a corporate install with the code 0506 and you want to change to standard or to personal it will work but if you are running the standard and want to go back to corporate or if you are runnning the Personal (full featuer O2) and want to change to standard it will not work. After playing around with that I have found that my simmanager and enroller icons dissapeared, but I was able to get it back by running one of the cabs. it was different with the pdf reader, since I need one I have decided to run that O2 install type thingy and chose first standard install which did not bring the pdf back, and then I have chosen the personal install which would mean that I should have now everything on it , the pdf icon was there but alais the pdf did not work I kept on getting an error.
One more thing when you install the CORP version the dialer skin is the same as by the JasJar so I beleive that that is the generic skin, since the O2 Dialer skin is very vague the buttons are beautiful, but have to much light in them so it is difficult to see the letters
SO I am back to JasJar ROM and I beleive will stick to it for a while.
The progs I run :
TT5.1
Resco Explorer
Skype 1.2 beta
Backgammon
Total commander
All installed on the storage card
I hope this not too boring and helps folks here.
srmz said:
I have a Jasjar. Due to the machine freezing occassionally on arrival of a new SMS I would like to give the O2 ROM a try.
I shall be obliged if someone can tell me that when I have installed the O2 ROM and would like to go back to the i-mate ROM would this be possible. What is the procedure to revert from O2 ROM back to the I-mate ROM.
I will appreciate your help
Regards
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I have done it and reverted back to the JasJasr rom no problems and I have an MDA PRO, so I am even further way from home.
Follow this thread to learn what are the procedures for upgrading:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=29354&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Good luck
The Exec ROM (basic and Corporate) do not suffer from a buggy Messaging app on the JJ ROM. The JJ ROM can cause the JJ to freeze on SMS notification and can crash when receiving emails over UMTS.
You mean the imate email app ?? or the bult in functionality. Because I do not have those symptoms. and I have received only today already about 12 sms messages.
About receiving the e-mail overUMTS: I use exchange active sync over UMTS and works like a charm without any problems...Maybe it freezes when using pop mail or imap? What is your configuration ?
And once again by the "buggy messaging app" you mean the imate e-mail??
Can someone confirm the presence of MSN and PDF inthe O2 Corporate mode ????
Thanx
Jasjar or O2?
I have also been wondering whether to try O2. Overall, after many trials I am quite satisfied with Jasjar. I have not installed extended rom except for bluetooth patch and smardialer cabs. I am running: pocketinformant, magicbutton, repligo, netfront 3.3, resco explorer, pocket mechanic, microsoft voice command. I have done a number of recommended register tweaks. I have also updated the radio to 1.04.
Speed is good.
Remaining problems: Once in a while I need to soft reset to overcome freezes. My main problem now is that I cannot install new programs or updates, nor can I remove programs.
It would be useful to find out how others are dealing with these problems and whether thos running O2 corporate are confronting similar problems.
Should I switch to O2 corporate? There seem to be conflicting views on the matter.
thanks, apap
Churchill:
You wrote a few things about Extended ROMs, Code 0506 (for o2 Corp. mode?), and about bypassing the extended ROMs.
Also there was a mention of bluetooth and radio Cabs...
I would be obliged if you could elaborate and explain them to me.
I have the o2 Exec and would like to experiemnt with the corp. mode since I find that in personal mode it freezes up all too often (not enough memory I guess...) but I wouldn't like to loose essential functionality by changing my ROM.
Thanks in advance
Well I am right now updating my MDA PRo from JasJar Rom to O2 ROM, since I still think the O2 ROM was a notch faster in the corporate mode.
I would not advice you to bypass the extended rom install as I found that some things do not work properly like the sim manager and pdf.
You are fine with the Corporate mode since it is the cleanest of all options including the JasJar.
Also Pocket MSN is more responsive in the O2 corporate mode, then with JasJar ROM.
So just go ahead and do a hard reset and choose corporate mode with the code 0506.
By the Way as I have already mentioned earlier the Boot splash screen of O2 is the best till now. Funny is that I was called by T-Mobile representative a couple of days ago and asked what I think about the MDA PRO. I have told him that MDA PRO with t-mobile customization is history by me and I am running JasJar. He warned me that if something happens to my device they can not help me now since there is no t-mobile rom available to flash it with (I do not understand that where is the release rom? did they loose it or something?) but I am still eligible for my 2 year warranty. He also asked why I have switched to JasJar, I have told him that the t-mobile customisation is crap and that the device was slow and unstable. He confirmed that and also saysd that this is exactly the reason why he is contacting me, since they aparently received a threat from one of the major consumer organisations in the netherlands. So he sayd that they are verifying the isue with the users and it does not look good since everybody complains. So hopefully t-mobile will release new rom soon...
Funny is that I have mentioned to him that I hate the hideous colors and boot splash screen of t-mobile rom, his answere was that the boot splash screen they are extremely proud of since it took a long time to come up with the design.... DUDE how long can it take to come up with something so hideous?
Anyhow....
P.S. I let you guys know how is my MDA PRo with O2 ROM
Adobe acrobat reader is available freely from the adobe site, in the same way as their readers always are:
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readerforppc.html
HTH
The O2 Exec has OS 1.13.48, which has a memory leak bug. Commontime mNotes synchronization cannot free the memory after use, so a 3rd consecutive sync empties out all remaining RAM. This was resolved in OS version 1.13.53, which is on the Jasjar.
Yes, the Exec ROM seems a tad faster, but at least for me the memory leak is decisive for the Jasjar ROM.
Jasjar or O2?
Wiz, have you reverted to Jasjar? Also, I do not quite understand the memory leak problem. Does this mean that there is a danger of losing note information? Finally, any suggestions on how to resolve the inability to add new programs? Does this problem occur only with Jasjar?
Thanks, apap
I used to own a T Mobile MDA Compact 3 which I believe is the same as the Artemis.
The phone worked fine for me over the 18 months I had it. However I've since sold this phone on ebay and the buyer has reported a problem where it keeps cutting off via email.
I don't know if he's pulling a fast one or if this is a genuine problem. If it is a genuine problem how do I fix it? Any help would be appreciated.
The only problem I've had with the phone is a screen problem on it in January and went back to T Mobile for repair. They sent it back with a replaced screen and WM6 on it which the buyer is saying is likely to be the cause of the power cut outs.
If it is WM6 does anyone know how to downgrade the device back to WM5? Any help appreciated.
Rather than paraphrase his emails I'll just list them in order received:
Email 1 received:
"hi.. this phone keeps switching off compeletely. each time i have to restart. sometimes its after 10mins other times its later. do you still have any warranty on it? if so can you post me paperwork and i can possibly have it repaired. if not then its faulty. it just keeps randomnly switching itself off. ive tried hard resets. even downloaded latest roms from tmobile website for compact 3 but still no success. ?? only other thing i can try is reinstalling windows mobile....."
I asked him for the link used to download the rom:
Email 2:
"tmobile direct.. under support and software.. i worked for 02 providing data support on pdas for 7 years and now own a 60 seater call centre in manchester and sell consumer and business mobile phones.. look at my feedback. ive bought and sold many pdas. im familar with them. backlight and power settings are unticked. it just completely shuts down. same as would when you would when you do a soft reset. after a hard reset the only thing you can really do is make sure the latest rom or software is installed. its an intermittent problem and i cant replicate it all the time. when it does it just switches off completely. no error messages at all. on standby it fine. its when your using the phone, any application or even on the internet. did wm6 come with the phone or did you install this yourself. ive noticed wm6 is not available on this model by tmobile. they have taken it off their websites.. ive used wm5 and have never experienced problems with them. if wm6 was an upgrade do you have wm5"
Email 3:
"i will try another battery as i have more mda compact 3's... if it works with another battery. no probs. i'll keep it. if it doesnt then i will have no option but to return as its faulty. could well be the battery if you have used it for about 18mths.. will keep you posted. thanks"
Email 4:
"i have done a little more testing and here is a problem that i can replicate every 5-10 mins.. the phone itself if not used does not switch off. its when its used that i have the problem. i have noticed in the about section the phone originally came with WM5. so maybe its the WM6 that is not fit for the phone? WM6 is not available and not supported on this model by Tmobile. Anyway. if i log onto to the internet via gprs and am physically browsing after a few mins the phone will reboot itself and switch off. so if im on the internet but not actually browsing and have just a gprs session active, the phone is fine. its only when i am actually browsing a site - it can be any randomn sites its not linked to any one site.. regards bash - hope the above makes sense.."
Email 5:
"i still have not had chance to try with a different battery but when i do i will let you know. i dont think you are a rip off merchant at all. im just letting you know the problems i am experiencing. its not just the internet. its also when i use my own 3rd party software which i use on other mdas orbits and spvs and works totally fine. i will speak to tmobile in the morning and see if i can get wm5 off them as i think its related to wm6. if the battery or wm5 does not fix it then i will have no choice but to return it. will keep you posted. regards"
bump.
Any help really appreciated.
I have the very same problem here !!!!
Dont think its the battery because it started from one moment to another with a FULL battery
I had the same problem with my phone turning off during use for no reason even when the battery was showing it was charged.
I replaced my battery and all seems to be OK now.
See thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=543194
Regards, Alistair