insurance on a o2 xda IIs in the USA??? - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General

hi i own a o2 xda IIs and im currently using it with cingular i started this acct with cingulars model the siemens sx66 but i love the black ones look and the camera, and wow o2 connect is the best anywas, i was wondering what if my unit was loast or stolen or broken, is there any type of insurance, mainly for repairs. or will the manufacture cover this unit even though im not where the unit was sold primarly.
thanks in advance
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I was wondering the same thing, I am with T-Mobile the only thing that I know you could do is use your SX every once in a while so the IMEI stays in their system, they only do a scan every once few weeks or so. If your device gets lost still call it in. They will more than likely verify that you are using the Siemens phone at the time (Answer YES) pay the deductible unlock it and trade/sell it to replace your XDA.

Ok, I have something even better for you..
Listen to this:
"Mobile ProTech (www.mobileprotech.com) insured mobile devices (including cell phones) valued at less than $250 for $2 per year, devices worth ip to $400 for $60 per year, and devices priced up to $550 for $100 per year. The company even insures used phones purchased on ebay. The phone simply has to be activated and in working condition before you set up a policy."
Laptop Magazine November 2005 "Ask the Geek" pg 38

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Does the XDA IIs work without a sim card in it?

Sorry if this has been asked before, but I had a quick scan of the forums and didn't find the same question.
Basically, I'm thinking of buying an O2 XDA IIs, but I'm planning to use it more for the PDA functions than the phone functions. I've also heard that it's phone reception is poor(ish) so I was wondering if anyone knows if the XDA IIs runs without a sim card in it.
Thanks!
It does indeed
Fantastic!
Gotta dig deep now for the £199!
Thanks wilesd
What a concept, buy a phone to use as a PDA, Gee I just wish I could use me phone which is a PDA as a phone with out the Swiesche sidh crak grusnh and I dont even have a BT headset!
Well I figured that rather than buying an HP iPAQ with Wi-Fi that would cost anywhere between £300-400, I could extend my O2 contract and get an XDA, but use it only as a PDA. I would have to continue using my current mobile phone, but since it works well, I don't have any problem with that.
XTscazz said:
Fantastic!
Gotta dig deep now for the £199!
Thanks wilesd
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If your gonna extend your contract with O2 then tell 'em you'll leave unless they can do something decent on the price. I got my XDA IIs off them for £99 by doing just that
Really? I was considering using the 'leave O2' card, but I've heard that it doesn't always work, something about them reaching their quota for the week or something.
Anyway, thanks for the advice, going to try phone them up tomorrow and try for the £99 price tag!
Think it depends who you get on the phone and like you say their "quota".
I genuinely got my XDAIIs for free by threatening to leave! only a £25 a month contract as well
I told them Orange had offered me an MPV2000 for £130 (fib) and they offfered to match it, I then said I would speak to Orange and let O2 know what they said.
Left it ten minutes, rang O2 back and said Orange were gong to do it for free, couldn't believe it when O2 said they would still match it!!
Turned up 2 days later.
Think I'm the only person in the world who likes O2 customer services!
Wow. Thats one sweet deal! Well, I'm going to try and get a good deal off them tomorrow. The MPV2000 isn't on offer at Orange anymore so I think I'll try quoting the P910i or something...
Thanks for the advice! Should be a fun call
Heres to hoping for a free XDA IIs!
loads of places are offering SPV M2000 free on orange - but you pay with a higher cost contract.
The cheapest Ive seen is £40 per month.
The new Talk 600 premium or something contract costs £55 per month, but only lasts 9 months. You can usually go down to £15 after 6 months.
try fones4free.com or mobileshop.com for free M2000's
-Anthony
Damn, it didn't work! Probably didn't help having the world's most bored man at the other end of the line. Despite saying I could get a better deal at Orange, they didn't budge on the XDA IIs price tag of £199...I think the fact that i'm on a £19 a month contract didn't help, but maybe I need to get a chirpy, upbeat person at 02 customer services to get anywhere
XTscazz said:
Damn, it didn't work! Probably didn't help having the world's most bored man at the other end of the line. Despite saying I could get a better deal at Orange, they didn't budge on the XDA IIs price tag of £199...I think the fact that i'm on a £19 a month contract didn't help, but maybe I need to get a chirpy, upbeat person at 02 customer services to get anywhere
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How long have you been with them? I've been with O2 for about 6 years now so I guess I qualify as a long term customer. I'm also on a £25 contract.
2 years last month, i guess long term customer status has a 3+ year term requirement!
I was on a £25 a month contract, but after finishing uni, I found I used it a lot less...changed to £19pm, saved a bunch of cash, but it might be stopping me getting a XDA IIs on the cheap! doh.

Can I buy a XDA11 s and sell it on Ebay?

I've had two contracts with orange for 10 years and now am thinking of switching to O2 to get a deal on two xda11s. (orange won't match it)
Deal is I sign up for two 02 200 contracts and I get 2 XDA11s for £50 each.
3 questions:
1/ Is there anything to stop me keeping one and selling the other one on ebay?
2/ Would will it be worth getting it unlocked first and
3/ if I do (via an internet site etc) would it raise any red flags with o2.
thanks,
As long as you pay your contract you wont get a problem. You dont actually own the phone until your contractual obligations are fulfilled so you would need to pay a full years subscriptions before you actually owned the phone, that would be 12 monthly payments of your chosen tariff. Having said that I dont see any problem unless you default on payment, in which case your phone would probably be blocked once thay had failed to collect.
Yes it would be more saleable if it was unlocked to all networks.
Getting it unlocked on the internet is not carried out by O2 as far as I know so I dont see any flags being raised.
i dont see how you are going to make any money?
contract cost =360
phone cost= 50
P&p inc ins= 15
ebay and paypal fees abt =15
total cost= 440
so you need to sell the blue angle for more than £440
why would someone shell out £440 in one go when they can pay it off and get a contract with free minutes for as little as £100 plus £30 a month. thats a total cost £460 i dont think anyone is going to go for it mate.
robboy, you arent taking into account that he needs 2 contracts, and that he will get all the free calls etc that come with his plan.
thanks for your replies. looks like it might be doable. And yes, I do need to sign up for two contracts anyway though I can use an unlocked phone on the second one and flog the second XDA.
So I guess £30 or so on ebay fees and P+P, £50 on handset...I have a choice of getting either the XDAIIs or XDAIIi -- any thoughts on which is more desirable/marketable?
I understand the IIi has a faster processor but I'm sure I read somewhere that video performance was better on on the IIs (and it's slightly smaller).
Depends on your target market. The XDAIIi is superior hardware wise, but has no 850 band for North America (if you would consider selling to NA for a possibly higher price) and no slide out keyboard.
Xda IIs
Hey fellas,
I can see his point of not having to upkeep two Pocket pc's.
Right now I have my BA and five other Pocket PC to keep charged up and sync with lastet contacts even when they are not being used all the time I use them to beta test software one different proceesors. It's like taking care of a Tomagotchi or a furby. Anyways, you need to consider that someone in another country could reflash it, unlock it and sign it on with a carrier. Also consider with some of the stripped down Blue Angel models without the WIFI or the camera, I'm certain someone would pay good money to have one fully loaded blue angel.

For those who wish to upgrade to XDA Orbit

Just thought I'd put a lil post here to help anyone who wants to upgrade with o2.
As my exec screen broke the other day and I am due an upgrade with o2 online, I decided to get the Artemis.
As I was on the online 25, 12 month contract, they offered me initially £99.99 for the phone. I asked to speak to their "specialist" department to barter for the phone
After some pointing out of facts (I like o2 and wouldnt like to have to change, I spent >£500 on phone bills last year, I would expect the phone to be free, other phone companies are offering similar phones for a lot less) I managed to work something out: £9.99 for the phone and aggree to switch to the 18 month contract with 150 minutes and 750 texts (£25/mo). The CoPilot software was confirmed to be supplied with the Orbit.
In the end, I am happy. Although I am spending an extra £150 with o2 for the 6 months, you could say I haven't got anywhere, but I like o2, and I like the Orbit!
Will post a review when it arrives (apparently before midweek)!
So I've been had then!!! Did exactly the same as you but I ended up with:
£99 for the phone
NO SAT NAV KIT (still in arguements with o2 as thought this was included!)
£15/month 18 month contract with 250 minutes - 150 texts
O2 going abroad: Spain - free for life of contract.
Total: £369 !!!
Hey it's not all that bad for £15/mo but a shame about the sat nav, IMO it completes the phone. They do still advertise it free, with what looks like no restriction on tarrif so go ahead and argue with them.
Good luck, keep us all informed!
BTW: £25 x 18 + £10 = £460
I managed to get for £24.50/pm 400 xross min and 100 texts , and the phone only cost £50 with free co pilot kit. Not bad hey.
t- mobile offer the best deal at the moment in the uk only down side is no wifi
agreed re t-mobile. as a self employed person they let you register for business use which means a dedicated helpline and manager - i have his personal email and he answers in minutes! i'm getting x network 900 mins, 1GB internet useage and international cheaper calls for £37.50 a month (32.50 for the 1st 3). considering i was getting 150 mins (orange/landline only) and 4MB of gprs with orange beforehand for £35, i am well pleased! plus the phone was free
si
wombat45 said:
So I've been had then!!! Did exactly the same as you but I ended up with:
£99 for the phone
NO SAT NAV KIT (still in arguements with o2 as thought this was included!)
£15/month 18 month contract with 250 minutes - 150 texts
O2 going abroad: Spain - free for life of contract.
Total: £369 !!!
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Finally got a call back from O2, only took ten calls by myself over 4 days to get someone who can actually make decisions to call me! After explaining to the girl, "NO, I was not trying to get a free bluetooth headset, I was simply expecting to recieve the sat nav kit with my orbit"...
She replied...... "Oh is that all, not a problem, i'll order you one now, be with you in 3-4 days. I thought you were trying to get a free bluetooth headset, but they are £22. Anyway, sorry for the misunderstanding. Many thanks"
I was shocked it was so staight forward after all the hassle, but if the kit actually turns up, I will be happy!! I did get her to confirm over the phone that it was the holder, car plug adapter and memory card and she said yes it was. (Signed into My O2 and there are no new orders showing though???!!!)
Fingers crossed! If it does turn up then i'm well happy with the deal I got.
Received my orbit today!! Its all looking good however like many other people, I have not received my GPS software as is advertised, I will be calling o2 a bit later to see what they will do!
Pjtheman said:
Received my orbit today!! Its all looking good however like many other people, I have not received my GPS software as is advertised, I will be calling o2 a bit later to see what they will do!
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Unfortunately, after much hastle, I still am not able to receive my CoPilot software. Apparently, the free bundle is only available to new customers and to get this with the upgrade is £99.99. I have even argued that I specifically asked whether I would receive the software, but they have no record of me asking this.
What a ripoff.
My choice now is to either pay the £99.99 with a 1 month free line rental offer
or
Return the phone, cancel my contract, get my tenner back, pay £130 for the phone and software on a new contract
or
Go to tomtom and pay £89 for their satnav.
Anyone got an opinion on this?
Pjtheman said:
Unfortunately, after much hastle, I still am not able to receive my CoPilot software. Apparently, the free bundle is only available to new customers and to get this with the upgrade is £99.99. I have even argued that I specifically asked whether I would receive the software, but they have no record of me asking this.
What a ripoff.
My choice now is to either pay the £99.99 with a 1 month free line rental offer
or
Return the phone, cancel my contract, get my tenner back, pay £130 for the phone and software on a new contract
or
Go to tomtom and pay £89 for their satnav.
Anyone got an opinion on this?
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If you don't need the wifi I'd just move to T-Mobile, with the amount your spending on line rental they'd probably give you everything for free. Aswell as that their line rental + data packages are very attractive.
Once my O2 contract is up (Online 100 @ £25pm + 500txts all free for 10mths) in about 6 months time unless O2 come up with some decent data tariffs I will be moving to T-Mobile.
Well I've just managed to get the XDA Orbit with Sat Nav software for free with 500 minutes and 900 texts for £20 per month (12 month contract). Wouldn't stretch to a free bluetooth headset though. This was through retentions and took 4 calls, each time getting a little more offered. Just waiting for it to arrive now.
O2 Data tariff for Orbit
I just upgraded my contract (data only @£9.40 a month), they charged me £99 for the phone but I just carry on paying £9.40....I never use the data only sim because I have a company Orange sim and all my calls are free....
I can't work out how O2 make money from this...The phone on eBay is at least £350 and I have no intention of using the data sim card....12x £9.40 plus £99 = £211 over a year seems to me a far cheaper way to own an Orbit!
Well I must be one lucky Mofo, as I got my Orbit free of charge and am only on a £25 p/m contract for 12 months.
I was originally going to get a P990i for an upgrade price of £49.99. But after getting the phone I found out I could get it for free from my girlfriends Vodaphone contract so I returned my P990i and asked for the Orbit which they gave me for free and refunded my initial £49.99.
Only difference I can add is that I had not done an upgrade since I got an XDA II over two/three years ago so they seem to have given me more due to that fact?
Great phone and is even better as I am using my T-moible chip in it for the 1GB web n walk.
Co-Pilot Pack
My Orbit arrived with no Co-pilot. App only free if ordered on-line. The online system wouldn't work when I ordered so I did it by phone. I phoned up to query it and was given the brush off. I asked to speak to someone senior and I got the co-pilot 2 days later. The web-site is none to clear! But credit to O2: they sorted it.
I have upgraded today. 4 phone calls and this is what I got.
£32.50 per month for 12months.
800mins 1000 txt per month. 5mb data allowance. Orbit + Sat Nav for free.
I use my phone a lot so happy with the deal.
I upgraded yesterday from an Xda Mini S. When I rang O2 customer service to enquire about an upgrade they said £89.99.
I then walked to the O2 shop across the road from where I work & the manager originally said £40, but then he said that if I switched from O2 250 tariff (£35pm, 250 x-net mins, 100 texts) to O2 400+100 (£35pm, 400 x-net mins, 100 texts) I could have the handset for free.
Go figure...
(The Co-pilot software would have been £50 in-store but I didn't need it as I already had TT5 for my Mini S)
It definitely pays to be a bit cheeky & haggle with them!
Got mine out of O2 contract (I am with vodafone), £349 unlocked, my employer paid £100 towards a new phone and I stumped up the rest. Very happy with it, finally we have some convergence in a decent sized mobile unit.
PDA - MOBILE - GPS - EMAIL - MP3
No bad at all...
The offer I got from O2
Phone: 149.99
Tariff: Data 5 9.4pounds/month x12 =112.80
Trade in : -30 pounds
total: 149.99+112.80-30=232.79pounds only
I got a 12 month free contract with coolnewmobile phone and only take the SIM card for my Oribit!!!!!
It is the lowest price you can have Orbit from O2 shop!!!
XDA
I was with O2 previously, myself and the missus contract. Nearing the end of the year, I called asking for the code to take my business elsewhere.
I was given some options on the crappy phones which I rejected as I was currently using and O2 chip in my trusty old SPV C500 and wood not trade into another contract with a phone less then par with the SPV.
I was then given details and contact number for the redemptions team who I called and they said we can give you the phone minus the software of you go on a £50 tariff for 18 months.
I said thank you. I called every alternate days (4 times in total) and got through and they bettered the offer each time. Finally on the last day when I was on the phone, they said we can give you the phone and the software if you pay £100 for each of the lines on a £35/ month contract.
I rejected and requested the code and guess what happens.
In the end this is what happened
I got 2 XDA Orbits, 2 CoPilot software packages and the following contract. For £25 per month on a 12 Month contract (yes a 12 month contract) and get 500 minutes anytime any network and 500 text messages and the phones and software were ABSOLUTELY FREE and did not have to pay a dime at all
Pjtheman said:
Unfortunately, after much hastle, I still am not able to receive my CoPilot software. Apparently, the free bundle is only available to new customers and to get this with the upgrade is £99.99. I have even argued that I specifically asked whether I would receive the software, but they have no record of me asking this.
What a ripoff.
My choice now is to either pay the £99.99 with a 1 month free line rental offer
or
Return the phone, cancel my contract, get my tenner back, pay £130 for the phone and software on a new contract
or
Go to tomtom and pay £89 for their satnav.
Anyone got an opinion on this?
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Flash the orbit with the HTC ROM - comes complete with TomTom installed, all you got to do then is buy the maps - full western europe for 99 euro (bout£67)
or gimme a shout an i'll send you the TomTom install cab from the htc rom ;-)

I have just got my new Rhodium. Any suggestions?

My PDA history:
1) Fujitsu Pocket LOOX
(I ran TomTom 2 in 2003 with a CF-based GPS receiver, people used to ask "wtf is THAT???" )
2) O2 XDA IIi
In the course of improving this device and upgrading it's OS to WM2003SE, I found these wonderful forums many years back! The IIi worked like a charm for 2+ years until it began to randomly hard reset itself, so I went out & got a nice 2nd hand...
3)TyTN II
I loved the whole slide keyboard & tilting screen, it really worked well the way I use my phone, although the keyboard was a touch too small for my liking. I didnt like the loss of good GPS when upgrading to WinMo 6.1 but put up with it as other parts of the OS seemed faster to me, still that slow screen meant no decent video/youtube playback, so I dreamed and dreamed, and saved and saved, and then ebayed, and today I received in the post a brand-new-in-box, Vodafone branded, but unlocked:
4) Touch Pro 2 \o/ (thank you ebay!)
As a long-time forum lurker and occasional poster, I have read all of the FAQs and gone thru the list of software that people reccomend for this device.
I am looking for people's suggestions as to useful things for this device: I am already biting my lip TRYING REAL HARD not to unbox the phone (it still has the HTC screen protector on) until the full body protector kit arrives, so I can keep this device in mint condition: I intend to use this as my primary phone for the forseeable future.
So far I have ordered for it:
1 x replacement battery (generic, cheapo from ebay version, as the 2 I ordered for my TyTN II function exactly like the stock one, have overcharge/overcurrent protection and work just fine)
1 x car windscreen mount (I use satnav a LOT and also BT handsfree phone at same time, so a screen mount is essential)
1 x HTC OEM 12-24v car charger (I need 24v as sometimes I end up driving large vans or campervans as part of my job and some of them run 24 volt systems - I think this is what could have fried my trusty old XDA IIi)
Question: is there any other hardware owners would reccomend me to get? such as the HTC splitter/charger dongle? any good but cheap small BT speakers? etc
I intend to stay with the 'stock' ROM for the intial 'getting to know my phone' period. and gather that official WM 6.5 ROMS may be available soon from either HTC or Vodafone UK.
Question: if the stock ROMS offer a reasonable blend of performance and stability, is it worth flashing HardSPL and changing ROMS/Radios?
Final Question/more of a thought:
I see on ebay a replacement touch screen digitiser can be had for a mere £12.99 for this device. looking at the image, it seems the zoombar is merely another part of the digitiser interface rather than a seperate sensitive 'strip'
I also would like to see the zoombar used in more than just the 3 basic apps it gets used in at present. Is it therefore likely that any hacking of said zoombar functions for our various needs/wants would be accomplished with editing/altering of the library/.dll that deals with the touchscreen, or am I just reading too much into the one pic? (for the curious ebayer, it's item no 390082629387)
Joe
P.S. I am going to derive HUGE satisfaction in 2 weeks time when I walk into my local Vodafone shop. I am on Vodafone PAYG, it works well for me and I find the charges reasonable. This is the basic convo with the Voda salesman in shop:
"Can I get this on PAYG? where I just pay for the handset?"
"Oh no, this is just a business phone, they wont release it on PAYG." (turns out it CAN be had for around £540 from Vodafone)
"Cheapest we could do it at is.... £40... well maybe £35 a month for a 24 month contract" (works out at £840 for the phone eeek!)
I intend to go in and purchase my £10 PAYG talktime voucher and waft the phone it's intended for, and see if he notices I have the much-vaunted 'business handset I cant possibly get on PAYG' on PAYG Vodafone hehe
Joe Pinball said:
"Cheapest we could do it at is.... £40... well maybe £35 a month for a 24 month contract" (works out at £840 for the phone eeek!)
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Ah, but how much would you be paying for a SIM-only contract that offers unlimited Internet? Probably £20 a month. That means you're actually paying £20 a month for the contract, and only £15 a month for the phone, which works out at £360, with two years interest-free credit. So you've ripped yourself off if you bought it for £540.
Shasarak said:
Ah, but how much would you be paying for a SIM-only contract that offers unlimited Internet? Probably £20 a month. That means you're actually paying £20 a month for the contract, and only £15 a month for the phone, which works out at £360, with two years interest-free credit. So you've ripped yourself off if you bought it for £540.
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If I had paid £540, yes I agree, but as I paid £321 for it on ebay I feel well chuffed
also: I checked out Vodafones contracts for this device: althought the minutes/month seemd nice even at the 'cheaper' tarrifs, I would still pay for my internet daily (50p for 15 megs, whereas I get a 50p charge for 25 megs on my PAYG) and messaging also cost money (11p a SMS I think)
I buy a £10 voucher for my PAYG and get 100 minutes & 300 SMS, 1 month validity, does me just fine! internet has ben 50p for 25Mb a day now for some time on Voda PAYG, and I also dont mind spending 50p for a days usage of the internet when out in the wild.
Well, if you're happy.
I just checked Vodafone's website, and it's actually a lot cheaper than you seem to think. For £30 a month for two years you get the phone for free. That gives you either 900 minutes a month and unlimited texts, or 750 minutes, 250 texts and unlimited landline calls. Either deal includes "unlimited" Internet use (subject to a 500MB a month fair usage policy). If you assume the contract is worth £20 a month, that brings the cost of the phone down to £240, with two years interest-free credit, and no hassles about guarantee if it goes wrong, which can be a problem on eBay.
On top of that, there's no charge at all for the first three months, which saves you another £90. So that brings the cost of the phone down to just £150, with two years interest-free credit. That seems like a pretty good deal to me.
Obviously, if you think you might either want to change providers or upgrade the phone in less than two years, then you have to pay extra to get that flexibility. But even the 18 month deal isn't that bad: £35 a month rather than 30, and no free 3 months, so that works out at about £270 for the phone. On a 12-month contract it comes to about £350.
As the guy above can't actually read:
Joe Pinball said:
Question: is there any other hardware owners would reccomend me to get? such as the HTC splitter/charger dongle? any good but cheap small BT speakers? etc
I intend to stay with the 'stock' ROM for the intial 'getting to know my phone' period. and gather that official WM 6.5 ROMS may be available soon from either HTC or Vodafone UK.
Question: if the stock ROMS offer a reasonable blend of performance and stability, is it worth flashing HardSPL and changing ROMS/Radios?
Final Question/more of a thought:
I see on ebay a replacement touch screen digitiser can be had for a mere £12.99 for this device. looking at the image, it seems the zoombar is merely another part of the digitiser interface rather than a seperate sensitive 'strip'
I also would like to see the zoombar used in more than just the 3 basic apps it gets used in at present. Is it therefore likely that any hacking of said zoombar functions for our various needs/wants would be accomplished with editing/altering of the library/.dll that deals with the touchscreen, or am I just reading too much into the one pic? (for the curious ebayer, it's item no 390082629387)
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Good News re XTC Clip

Not sure if anyone is aware, or whether they have been put off getting the XTC Clip because of the price, but they have a massive 80% off the original price of the clip.
Price is now just shy (in the UK) of £40 rather than £199
Maybe this could be the final push to opening up custom roms for our device (after first S-Offing.....)
What do you guys think?
What are those guys warranty and liability terms?
Do they have an insurance? They should have one to pay their valued customers if X-Clip breaks something. Product liability Insurances are not that expensive, nowadays.
I've paid too much for this product to brick it, since rooting voids warranty from HTC.
And well, no root but more chances if the phone gets lost or stolen to get it back, because high costs and H/W crack solution only to remove the "security locks" for the thief.
well I think there will always be the risk of 'bricking' the device, but so many people have successfully S-Offed using the XTC Clip, and seeing as this is the only way at the moment to root our Wildfire S...... well I'll take the risk.
As for removing the Security Locks for the thief if the phone is lost or stolen? well, not really. You can still set locks within Android itself, plus if you phone was ever lost or stolen, well you just ring up your Network Provider, eg, Vodafone, O2, T-Mobile, etc, and they can block the phone by the individual IMEI number
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if you phone was ever lost or stolen, well you just ring up your Network Provider, eg, Vodafone, O2, T-Mobile, etc, and they can block the phone by the individual IMEI number
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They will charge highly for this service and the IMEI # may be altered by such tools, too, or is this device auth data crypto-secured in ROM?
Sorry for stupid Q but I've only private used very cheap cellphones so far since I've never paid the high costs for mobile contracts to get a sponsored phone.
the only way to change the IMEI of a phone is by changing the entire motherboard of the phone (as far as I am aware) which makes it not worth doing.
http://imei-number.com/change-imei-number/
"How can manufacturers prevent IMEI changing?
Actualy there is no 100% security just as all other problematic things on the world. Manufacturers can do their best but still you can change chip and reprogram it if you have the same knowledge as manufacturers employees."
That disclaimer says it all.
Every PS modder garage could do that.
Your concern regarding security has not much to do with s-off/rooting the phone. If you lose your phone, your data is available to whomever has the phone regardless of wether or not the phone is rooted/s-off.
So back on-topic: since my PAYG clip is now unlimited, if there's anyone in my region (southern of the Netherlands) that needs a phone unlocked, feel free to contact me.
I have ordered one form here http://cgi.ebay.it/XTC-Clip-HTC-And...?pt=UK_Phones_Software_RL&hash=item20b76edaff
53 EUR TOTAL.
Including shipping of €11.
Is the PAYG clip completely unavailable now? I ordered mine for 22 pound (roughly 27 euro).
I paid the same! Because of the big price drop they decided to stop selling the PayG as it became "useless" because it's also unlimited.
People who already bought the "PayG's" got the 1.4.5 update as extra. I think I was one of the last people who bought one ;-)
Now they're only selling the normal XTC clips a bit more expensive than the PayG version was. I wonder what the resellers are doing with the overstock on PayG's now? :-D
Probably upgrading them themselves and then sell them as regular XTC clips? Anyway, 22 pounds was a reasonable price, but 50 euro is rather expensive for use on a 250 euro phone. I don't think it'll be useful for newer phones that are no longer Qualcomm based.
It seems to be still available here at the same price: http://forums.phone-tools.cn/showth...ces-supported-phones-terms-and-conditions-***
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Still avail. http://cgi.ebay.de/XTC-Clip-UNLOCK-HTC-Android-Windows-phones-Desire-/120757931375
From Bulgaria, trust ok?
100% reputation, seems trusted. And you are fully protected by Ebay and paypal.
But not on the official reseller list?:
http://forums.phone-tools.cn/showthread.php/30724-XTC-Clip-Reseller-List
Well, if it all goes wrong you are still protected so you can get your money back I expect them to be true to their word and not scam you.
I've bought one from the Bulgarian. Lets see.
Well, there are cheaper sellers that are based in the UK when I looked earlier.
Well, the Bulgarian is fast:
http://translate.google.com/transla...tl=en&u=http://www.bgpost.bg/?cid=176&act=url
Local Date and Time Country Location Event Type Extra Information
8/15/2011 7:30:00 PM BULGARIA SOFIA LC/AO Receive item at office of exchange (Otb)
8/16/2011 12:28:00 AM BULGARIA SOFIA LC/AO Insert item into bag (Otb)
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Arrived and activated, SW ver. 2.0.0. Seller is excellent.
Hmm. there's an issue:
The device does not switch on if usb power is applied and fastboot in settings off... need to remove battery to reset.
It works again with fastboot back on in power settings.
UPDATE: Issue is gone, charging if switched off and fastboot off works again.

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