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Okay first of all I've fully installed WM5 on both devices, 1.60c on XDA II, and 5.03.02 patch 3 (newest for xda iis) and I've noticed major fast improvement and speed with the XDA II, its faster then WM2003SE, and its more stable and great! With the XDA IIs its a laggy piece of crap, I wish someone could make it faster somehow without overclocking it, (by the way even overclocking it) - doesn't make it run as fast as the XDA II, maybe there is a glitch someone can fix, there has to be something thats slowing it down for us XDA IIs users because they both have 400mhz, 128mb ram, I just can't put my finger on it!
I think personally that there is one major device driver causing the problem (And it seems to be with interrupts???). The keyboard driver is my initial guess with the way it behaves so badly but it could be one of many ...
I also have both XDA2 and XDA2s and notice the brutal difference between the two. I wonder if the DOC chip, (the internal Storage area) is of a different design/speed then the XDA2. Maybe the XDA2 has a much faster ROM read/write speed then the XDA2s.
I've mentioned to Buzz and mamaich to build a Storage=1/2 RAM build of the XDA2s ROM, (like they have for XDA2) but they haven't made it yet. If they do, and we are writing all Storage to RAM, (and therefore losing persistence) and its STILL SLOW... then I would think would have to be some other driver.
mamaich:Buzz: If you are seeing this, please build this ROM
I think "laggy piece of crap" is a bit harsh considering how far this rom has come since it was first released. With the latest release the speed increase is obvious and only browsing with PIE and email remain a bit sluggish. I'm sure if it was possible all issues would have been resolved by now and remember this is unfinished code we are running and work is still beig done on it behind the scenes. So rather than calling hours of others work "crap" just highlight what issues you still have and they will get to it if possible. At least with this rom I feel less of an urge to spend $800-1000 for the new devices.
efjay said:
I think "laggy piece of crap" is a bit harsh considering how far this rom has come since it was first released. With the latest release the speed increase is obvious and only browsing with PIE and email remain a bit sluggish. I'm sure if it was possible all issues would have been resolved by now and remember this is unfinished code we are running and work is still beig done on it behind the scenes. So rather than calling hours of others work "crap" just highlight what issues you still have and they will get to it if possible. At least with this rom I feel less of an urge to spend $800-1000 for the new devices.
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I was wrong it's not a laggy piece of crap, it just needs minor work ;-).
All the above being said…, there are some significant speed differences... or maybe my case is special...I've asked others to try this, (consensus would be nice).
If you have Resco Explorer installed on ROM-Storage, run it in BA-WM2005 and it should take about 5-6 seconds to come up, (after a soft-reset so it’s not in the file cache). Run it in XDA2-WM2005 and it’s about 1-2 seconds; run it in BA-Wm2003 and its <1 second.
Now once it’s loaded, it runs fine, (as does every other app), that’s why I think it might just be a read/write speed problem with the XDA2s DOC chip, (and therefore unfortunately not solvable)… which is why I would LOVE to get a 64Meg RAM Storage, 64Meg RAM Program version to confirm that is the case, once and for all….
Guys the BA-5.0 still needs loads of work and patches, remember that mamaich doesn't have the fully time to tweak the ROM, not to mention that the Hima magneto rom has been released since long time and BuZz made lots of major updates on it, and still a lot to come, I'd rate the Hima rom for 80% of completion but the BA rom is still on it's early stages, lets wait and see.. Believe me "When there's a will, there's a way"
Buzz, Mamaich and others work will be written on stones.
maybe it's because the himalaya rom is a much more later version of WM5, might even be a final version compared to the BA rom that's obviously a beta or engineering ROM, hence, you can even see that the splash screen cannot even be changed
Dyzophoria said:
maybe it's because the himalaya rom is a much more later version of WM5, might even be a final version compared to the BA rom that's obviously a beta or engineering ROM, hence, you can even see that the splash screen cannot even be changed
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I'm sure if we get into the splash screen offsets we could change it, nothing is impossible, thus I believe that the Hima's-BA's-Typhoon roms shares the same Beta built, if we had the right tools to allow us write into the ROM we would have got the perfect hacked rom ever thanks to everyone in this forum.
ramram said:
Guys the BA-5.0 still needs loads of work and patches, remember that mamaich doesn't have the fully time to tweak the ROM, not to mention that the Hima magneto rom has been released since long time and BuZz made lots of major updates on it, and still a lot to come, I'd rate the Hima rom for 80% of completion but the BA rom is still on it's early stages, lets wait and see.. Believe me "When there's a will, there's a way"
Buzz, Mamaich and others work will be written on stones.
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I'm totally agree with what ramram said. Way to go Buzz & Mamaich!
Let's just be patient and wait until the next update
I remembered the time when mamaich released his 3rd patch which makes major improvement in performance of WM5 BA. I was so happy I can see more responsive BA, and thanks to mamaich
Can users of both roms (the Imate Jasjar or Ivan) care to comment on which rom is better? I am running the Ivan beta13 and want to know whether it makes sense to switch.
Thanks.
stanip said:
Can users of both roms (the Imate Jasjar or Ivan) care to comment on which rom is better? I am running the Ivan beta13 and want to know whether it makes sense to switch.
Thanks.
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On my mda pro, ivan's beta 13 works very good. the imate rom does not work so good, it is slow and sometimes my device freezes.
stanip said:
Can users of both roms (the Imate Jasjar or Ivan) care to comment on which rom is better? I am running the Ivan beta13 and want to know whether it makes sense to switch.
Thanks.
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I'v tried Ivan's beta 8, 10, 12, 13, and both roms from Jwrightmcps; on my qtek9000 Jwrightmcps's Jasjar rom works definitively better.
Hi Xanadu, could you please more specific on where you see as better? Just a general comment on "better" does not really help me to decide... Thanks.
Hi stanip !
Try both ROMs and you will see which ROM works better on YOUR Universal.
That's the best way to make a decision...
Understand your point re testing it out.
Each rom update took me a fair bit of time (2-3 hours) as I need to reinstall about 10 softwares to my Universal and I need to reenter all the password, settings...etc.
Getting tired of keeping on refreshing... Hope to leverage the experience of other forumers.
Thanks.
My own experience...
I have not used Jwrightmcps's as much (just started playing with it in the last couple of days), but it seams better overall for me. I'm using a MDA Pro on T-Mobile.
It also seams quicker. It's all very subjective at the moment. Biggist factor is probably simply that I have not 'fully loaded' it with tonnes of apps yet.
Things I've noticed which I don't think would be effected by all teh apps being installed.
For Jwrightmcps's :
It does not freeze/loose signal with phone like it did with Ivan's Beta 13. But then I have also switched to Radio 1.11. I don't tink this is the reason though (old radio was fine prior to AKU3.2)
The camera software does not have as much noise on the Screen.
I don't like the Battery Icon on Today screen at the bottom. It shows full till battery is down to around 60%.
Love having USB Drive mode
Laptop finds more BT Profiles.
I'm hoping the competition drives both forward. But since nobody is actually being paid to do anything, don't see why it should. Many thanks to both for all the efforts they are making.
Zuber
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Hi Xanadu, could you please more specific on where you see as better? Just a general comment on "better" does not really help me to decide... Thanks.
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I agree with Zuber, plus I need smartdialer for my 1200 contact, but Ivan's beta 13 rom don't have smartdialer; as I installed it separetely, it took 6 MB RAM.
Sure, the best way is testing both then you can decide....
Jwrightmcps's has more thing than I-Van's but sometime It freezes
Zuber said:
My own experience...
I have not used Jwrightmcps's as much (just started playing with it in the last couple of days), but it seams better overall for me. I'm using a MDA Pro on T-Mobile.
It also seams quicker. It's all very subjective at the moment. Biggist factor is probably simply that I have not 'fully loaded' it with tonnes of apps yet.
Things I've noticed which I don't think would be effected by all teh apps being installed.
For Jwrightmcps's :
It does not freeze/loose signal with phone like it did with Ivan's Beta 13. But then I have also switched to Radio 1.11. I don't tink this is the reason though (old radio was fine prior to AKU3.2)
The camera software does not have as much noise on the Screen.
I don't like the Battery Icon on Today screen at the bottom. It shows full till battery is down to around 60%.
Love having USB Drive mode
Laptop finds more BT Profiles.
I'm hoping the competition drives both forward. But since nobody is actually being paid to do anything, don't see why it should. Many thanks to both for all the efforts they are making.
Zuber
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Can you receive MMS with the new MMS Composer included? Would you mind sending yourself one and confirming you can receive and download it?
Hey all. I'm a new Hermes junkie - I just got my 8525 off eBay, already flashed with MRH Sun Shower 8.4.
I REALLY love the ROM, but the problem is that it eats batteries for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
Do you guys have any suggestions on a good diamond rom with good HTC apps, specifically HTC Home. I'd also need to have Office on there as well.
So in your opinion, what's the fastest, least power sucking ROM? I hit the benchmarks page, but I'm still cutting my teeth on all this new info. Thanks!
CRCs r13.0 its nice with device udate. best ever seen
The main power drains are the screen, and GSM, so make sure you have the right radio, that helps.
Loaded roms, like MRH, will use more power, I have found.
Bigstorage roms are faster, but you need to flash a shipped rom (use the stripped on in my 4shared), and tend to use a bit more battery.
Thanks for the info. I have emailed the guy that sold me the phone, and he did actually flash the phone with the stripped ROM (and i've downloaded and archived it myself) before loading MRH.
I did install MemMaid on the hermes and set the tweak for extreme speed, which seems to be working nicely - we'll see how that hits the batteries.
As far as updating the radio, what's a good suggestion on that? I admit, I'm still trying to dive in and catch up on the terminology/methods, etc on this thing.
This is a fantastic phone
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Thanks for the info. I have emailed the guy that sold me the phone, and he did actually flash the phone with the stripped ROM (and i've downloaded and archived it myself) before loading MRH.
I did install MemMaid on the hermes and set the tweak for extreme speed, which seems to be working nicely - we'll see how that hits the batteries.
As far as updating the radio, what's a good suggestion on that? I admit, I'm still trying to dive in and catch up on the terminology/methods, etc on this thing.
This is a fantastic phone
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Radio depends where you live 14.00.00.00 (I think) seems to be good for tmobile usa.
Hey folks
Really wanna upgrade my Diamond ROM, noticed the new release from Orange but my question is simple. Is it any good?
I hear great things about the leaner, cleaner ROMs cooked up here and would much rather go for something a little more snappy.
Is there any real difference?
it's faster, but the biggest difference is the lack of transition animation between tabs.
Its got to be much better than the shipped one on the older supply of Orange diamonds
ROM 37 radio 05
HEY GUYS, soooo I upgraded.
I haven't noticed a better radio signal yet, it seem the same in my lead-lined office which was the main reason I wanted to upgrade
Everything else also seems pretty much the same. Not faster, not slower, larger text in some menus which is nice but I did that myself anyway.
In short, yes, it sucks
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HEY GUYS, soooo I upgraded.
I haven't noticed a better radio signal yet, it seem the same in my lead-lined office which was the main reason I wanted to upgrade
Everything else also seems pretty much the same. Not faster, not slower, larger text in some menus which is nice but I did that myself anyway.
In short, yes, it sucks
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have a cooked rom....then your wee yourself at the speed
Yeah I have an Orange HTC Touch Diamond and the ROM is POO!!! - Cooked ROMS are the way forword - much faster!
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Its got to be much better than the shipped one on the older supply of Orange diamonds
ROM 37 radio 05
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I don't even remember what mine had on it, but my friend's had the .03 Radio on it. Flashing it to the posted link, speeds it up significantly. I didn't leave him with a cooked ROM as I'm sure I'd have a phone call not knowing what to do and unable to install cabs.
i own a large amount of htc phones, but my mainphones have always been wizard/hermes sofar. I recently bought a universal, but it's too much phone for me. Too big/i live in a bad triband area. i hate to part with it but ehwell.
my question is, i bought a kaiser yesterday. theres android ports for it, whats the speed of them like?
preferbaly a comparinson to the droid eris, it's the only android phone i've played with.
any input would be apperciated, thanksguys!
Kaiser/Tilt
I have two of them running Android. One is Using the Polyrythmic version the other is the KaiserDroid. Both seem to operate well. I like polyrythmics and Im using it for a daily phone. The other Im still toying with. I suggest you read both threads and make sure you understand what youre doing before you do it.Dont fall into the traps that are well documented. Good luck
What I have noticed
I am using Polyrythmic 2.1b, and love it. I have gone though a few versions with them, in Haret and NAND. I have found that the NAND is faster if you are willing to take the full plunge. I only have one phone and feel fully confident in the release that it has been my daily release since the 2/23/10. A few things don’t work, but they were not biggie items to me. Read as much as you can before making the plunge.
Have to say, both the main eclair versions of android are very good, and there are a number of other flavours as well, myn's warm donut is getting good reviews also.
Recommendations? personally I divide my time between Polymod and Kaiserdroid, and have tried another few 'distros' as well.
The main questions to ask before using android are :
Do I need a working Camera?
Do I need working Bluetooth?
Do I need reliable GPS?
Have I read the Stickies in the ROM development section, and/or flashed HardSPL, upgraded my radio, unlocked security,cid and sim?
If any of the first 3 are 'Yes I MUST have these working' then android is not yet ready for you, there is still some work to be done in these areas.
If you answered the last with 'WTF is HardSPL and why do I need it?' then
you are not yet ready for Android
If you know all this stuff already, then my main advice is this:
Run from Sd card, try a few different distros, get used to the installer, learn what panel type, keyboard and resolution suit your device best, and then it's time for the whole Nand experience
im not going to run into any problems flashing it, i've got no worried about that.
but nobody answered, a) is it faster than wm6 and b) whats the performance hit compared to a native android device?
a) Yes for almost everything I use it's faster than WM6. It has a much faster graphics driver, smoother animations and scrolling, MUCH faster screen rotation. Browsing is faster, messaging is faster, soft keyboard and touch events are MUCH better, SSH is much faster, browsing through photos is faster...
b) Depends on the build. Donut builds are basically as fast as a native device, Eclair builds are fast enough for daily use and getting faster all the time.
Donut runs great and is the most stable, much better user experience than windows all around.
Eclair if you can tweak it to suit you then its a great OS. Probably runs about the same speed as a windows on the kaiser. Still a little glitchy and for the most part all are still in beta form
Tattoo or Hero would be great if speed wasn't an issue
Alright i've recieved the kaiser, i've put kaiserdroid+droidion donut+polys version.
polys ran like hell, im unsure why. maybe ill try off nand, shame becasue its gsm was the only one that half worked.
they accept wifi-on, get an ip, but refuse to actually ping or visit a site. anyone have any input on this?
thanks.
i think most stable rom is here: [Android]The Android Thread [Site Update] on this rom dont work only bluetooth. else everythink other working fully. (exclude market.. it works but when i search ASTRO F. M. it show error something about bad network, but im connected with wifi) but i think its old rom whithout some new functions