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Hello again all,
I posted a few days ago about how I was going to move from MS to WAD2.
The thing about MS is although it's stable, and it works well..it's not configurable/customizable without great pain.
WAD is very configurable, but kills my battery in less than a day (with MS I can easily get 2 days or more). It's also very sluggish and doesn't seem to link directly into things eg, in MS hitting the SMS icon takes you into your sms folder, in WAD it takes you to the messages list where you have to select the sms folder adding additional clicks to get to what you want isn't really desirable. This is the same with the email icon.
So I thought I'd try winterface...which is far too complicated and just doesn't seem to be very user friendly
Is there anything else left to try? are these the top 3 that people are using?
Thanks

twisted-pixel said:
Hello again all,
I posted a few days ago about how I was going to move from MS to WAD2.
The thing about MS is although it's stable, and it works well..it's not configurable/customizable without great pain.
WAD is very configurable, but kills my battery in less than a day (with MS I can easily get 2 days or more). It's also very sluggish and doesn't seem to link directly into things eg, in MS hitting the SMS icon takes you into your sms folder, in WAD it takes you to the messages list where you have to select the sms folder adding additional clicks to get to what you want isn't really desirable. This is the same with the email icon.
So I thought I'd try winterface...which is far too complicated and just doesn't seem to be very user friendly
Is there anything else left to try? are these the top 3 that people are using?
Thanks
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you can configure WAD to go to anything mate. The reason it is going to messaging when you want SMS is because the theme you are running links it that way. You can link to individual files, folders or .lnk files. THe .lnk files are great because you can pass parameters inside which is how the MS sms link is working anyway. There is no "sms" program, it IS the messaging program with a parameter passed upon execution.
I dont get too bad of battery life from WAD but I am nto really runnign aything else that would drain my batter so that may be helping me. There is nothing out there that can even shake a stick at WAD from a customization perspective. I say you stick with WAD and customize the themes yo ualready love with the links you desire.

ok I wanted to go grab more info for you about the sms thing. when looking at the sms.lnk file I created for my iphone theme, properties shows that to bring up sms directly you need to have
"tmail.exe" -service "SMS"
tmail.exe is just the messaging program and the rest tells it what service to start in. I believe setting to "MMS" also works as well as putting the account in the "". If you named you email Yahoo then "Yahoo" would work and th elnk would take you to the inbox of your yahoo account you set up

ok..that's a huge help as despite it's sluggishness and battery hungryness....I love the fact that I can do anything I want with WAD.
If only there was somewhere that told me about that command!!..I've downloaded the manuals etc, and there's no mention in them about how to use such commands, or how to make a meter, etc etc..
and I hate asking people too many questions.

twisted-pixel said:
ok..that's a huge help as despite it's sluggishness and battery hungryness....I love the fact that I can do anything I want with WAD.
If only there was somewhere that told me about that command!!..I've downloaded the manuals etc, and there's no mention in them about how to use such commands, or how to make a meter, etc etc..
and I hate asking people too many questions.
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lol i hear ya. I learned from here and other forums. I dont know all that much either. I just get an idea, assume it is possible and go search for ways to make it a reality

Hide Secret Contact, SMS and other data

I'm pretty new to WM and the THD is only my 2nd after TyTn II.
I believe there has been discussion on available software for hiding secret contact, sms and other data but none so in detail for THD.
I've tried Skb Mobile Safety Suite v2.02 but it does not work properly in WVGA. Can anyone advise what other softwares that have the following features?
Hide selective Outlook & sim contacts.
Hide selective Outlook & sim contacts from public section but accessible from password protected section.
Hide incoming/outgoing/missed call logs from these hidden contacts from public section but accessible from password protected section so that we still can return missed call.
Discreetly prompt incoming calls or missed calls from hidden contacts so that we can still choose to answer or return the call. It can be a completely discreet with no clues whatsoever or selectable silent or single ring tone, vibration, flashing icon, fake alerts etc.
Hide contact photo associated with the hidden contact.
Hide hidden contact sms or selective sms.
Hide incoming, received, sent, saved, deleted, draft sms from/to the above hidden contacts or selective sms even if contact are not hidden.
Discreet prompt for incoming sms as with incoming/missed calls.
Hide missed call sms alert from selected hidden contacts.
Hide any other data.
This is pretty self explanatory but recommendation is still welcome.
I know the wish list is exhausive but any recommendation and discussion on currently standalone software that can achieve the above features in parts or a combination of different softwares that offer part solution if not complete would be still be very much welcome. Full compatibility may not be an issue for now so long it is still passable. It will be better than having nothing at all.
In the meantime, I also hope developers would pick up the ideas above.
Cheers!

lol, what are you trying to hide from your girlfriend? just joking

Hahahaha ;DDD

Buy a cheap second phone. Much better chance of having your cake and eating it .

@ carz73
you said the mobile safety suite doesnt functions properly in wvga, but for what resolution is it? if it supports vga there is a wvga fix for vga only programs

xdaman85 said:
lol, what are you trying to hide from your girlfriend? just joking
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Correction. Not girlfriend but girlfriends and it's complicated but I'm not married so I don't think I'm way off my line too much
Shetlander said:
Buy a cheap second phone. Much better chance of having your cake and eating it .
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Unless I can hide the 2nd phone inside my ass, I'll be creating more suspicion and inviting much more painful experience.
htckaiseruser said:
@ carz73
you said the mobile safety suite doesnt functions properly in wvga, but for what resolution is it? if it supports vga there is a wvga fix for vga only programs
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Thanks! I dig around for more info on wvga fix but I doubt Mobile Safety Suite hides sms based on selected contact at the most basic level and will require very much manual intervention. I may be wrong until I try out the fix.
If there's any appz that that hides sms based on selected phone contacts and a separate one that hides the contacts and call logs, I'll take it.
Come on everyone's so squeaky clean? Anyone has any other recommendation?
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Seems like WVGAFIX3 does not support WVGA <->QVGA which I think is required by Mobile Safety Suite.

same request

For most of your needs, there is an app which is called Magic Call (MagicCall). Look for it.
With this app you will be able to block calls and sms from certain numbers. It is really cool.

hmoroni said:
For most of your needs, there is an app which is called Magic Call (MagicCall). Look for it.
With this app you will be able to block calls and sms from certain numbers. It is really cool.
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i think he wants to hide calls/sms/email from certain contacts in a "secret" folder/area, 'cause he wants to keep contact to the girls and not ignore them ;-)
regards jan
p.s.1: beware of "cheeters"
p.s.2: would be interested in software like that as well ;-)

hausen said:
i think he wants to hide calls/sms/email from certain contacts in a "secret" folder/area, 'cause he wants to keep contact to the girls and not ignore them ;-)
regards jan
p.s.1: beware of "cheeters"
p.s.2: would be interested in software like that as well ;-)
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You got it spot on! The key is being discreet and hide the tracks. I think I might have heard of similar appz for symbian. Wonder if the likes of CIAs and FBIs have such a software to stretch it abit... kidding... Actually, even if the appz/solution/workaround have some loopholes, girls being usually less IT savvy, it might still pass and I'll take it.
hmoroni said:
For most of your needs, there is an app which is called Magic Call (MagicCall). Look for it.
With this app you will be able to block calls and sms from certain numbers. It is really cool.
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Thanks! Really apprecite all forms of suggestion.
Just installed and still figuring it out. It does seems complicated and also "block" don't sound very right as jan understood my requirement. Girls are like money. You won't mind if you have more and you certainly don't "block" them.
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hmoroni, MagiCall is obviously a great appz. However, I'm not too sure if it suits my needs. When creating a new rule for incoming calls for the list of selected contacts, under "Operation" tab, options for "Action1" do not seem to suggest anything that will discreetly alert me so that I can choose to answer them when it is convenient to do so. The closest option is "Ignore" but will the ring tone still sound and/or the screen will still openly announce incoming calls rather than discreetly? If it does discreetly, then I'll still have to use another appz to hide the contact from public viewing, in which case I'm not sure MagiCall will still work as the contacts may no longer be recognised by it and therefore the rules will not apply.

hmm, I am sure the functionality you want can be implemented into an application, just cross your fingers and hope that theres a cheating unfaithful pimp developer reading this thread lol
But seriously an app that can do that would most likely become very very popular, so popular in fact that eventually windows mobile would gain 99% of the male market segment, and the remaining 1% would be on the FruitIphone

xdaman85 said:
hmm, I am sure the functionality you want can be implemented into an application, just cross your fingers and hope that theres a cheating unfaithful pimp developer reading this thread lol
But seriously an app that can do that would most likely become very very popular, so popular in fact that eventually windows mobile would gain 99% of the male market segment, and the remaining 1% would be on the FruitIphone
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Then perhaps I should write to M$? Bill Gate$ might already have a ready made appz. If not, it does sound like a great biz strategy. He should rope both of us in as advisers.
I've been doing lots of searching and reading. There might be some appz that do what I want in parts but the searching and reading gets very tedious and short of trying each and every appz, I can only begin to understand them a little here and there before I think the appz is worth a try. Surely, there should be something that come close. Anyone?

I heard about apps that hides calls but i cannot find it...so me interested aswel

anyone got the solution 4 thiss??? hahaha... kinda need it rite now.... hahaha

It is really strange that there is no such application for WM devices. I know there are some apps for Symbian OS who are successfully working this what you are looking for.

why don't you try "sms security". been using this for a while and it always save my neck . www.easyhelper.net

Try EZ Secret SMS

Nice idea for an application
i think i will start working on it, but i will not be using it so don't think much.
maybe also can have a GPS integration so it will know that you are with X girlfriend and it automatically hides everything related to other ones
love the idea, let me plan this right

Information Hide
Hide your private contacts and SMS and access it by a password.
With EasyHelper Information Hide, you can hide your private contacts and SMS and access it by a password. You can also restore the hidden contacts and SMS at any time.
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As some1 else stated this URL: http://www.easyhelper.net/ or better http://www.easyhelper.net/InformationHide.html
Information Hide - Havent tested it - at the bottom of the page

Try those ones
EZ Secret SMS
Skb SMS Manager and Organizer-Ultimate
EasyHelper SMS Security

A couple of questions for TP2 users + is it good stuff today?

I have read through many discussions and reviews, and I'd like to confirm and clear a couple of things with experienced users of TP2.
What I need is WM and QWERTY. It leads to HTC TP2, SE Xperia X2, Samsung Omnia Pro B7610. SE and Samsung doesn't fit me for some reasons, therefore I ended up considering TP2. Here are my questions regarding TP2:
SMS stuff: is it possible to have saved plenty of messages [more than 1000]? Does that slow the device or SMS operations down? Is it still lucid and easy to keep overview in sent/received/drafts? Is it possible to send one message to more receivers at once? Is it possible to save SMS as a text file to memory card? And what about full-text search on messages?
audio recorder: is it possible to start it by one or two touch and same easily save it? Does it save mp3 or wav file to memory card?
does it allow schedule power off/on?
What else makes me pretty nervous is the fact that WM6.x is dead system no more supported by MS. Isn't it similar to buying PC with Windows 98 today? In one year time most likely there will be only apps for 7 and no more new apps for old 6.x. If it was phone for 200$ I wouldn't care, but when I pay 500$ [as sold here in EU], I expect such phone to stay useful for a good couple of years. I don't want to go for WP7 as according to MS ads it is intended as a mobile interface for Facebook for bored teens. And what's more, it'll take year or two since those apps used by me will be 7 compatible...

xsys said:
What else makes me pretty nervous is the fact that WM6.x is dead system no more supported by MS. Isn't it similar to buying PC with Windows 98 today?
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Dead system? Not supported? Who told you that? Remember: just because somebody posts their opinion doesn't make it true.
And no, not similar to buying PC with Win98.

MCbrian said:
Dead system? Not supported? Who told you that? Remember: just because somebody posts their opinion doesn't make it true.
And no, not similar to buying PC with Win98.
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xsys, there's still far to broad a userbase for the traditional windows mobile platform for Microsoft to pull the plug on it. You can expect to see support and development both continue on it, likely under one of the suspected names of "windows phone classic" or "windows phone enterprise"
For some of your other questions:
-The SMS module in WM 6.x (and even earlier versions) is known to bog down noticibly with the more messages you retain, and would probably be rather significant by the time you got to 1000. That's honestly one of the top 10 achille's heels of this platform.
-Yes, you can add multiple recipients to SMS messages just like with an e-mail.
-I don't know of any way to archive SMS as text file(s), but it's possible that one of the available 3rd-party SMS clients might have that capability. However, microsoft's free MyPhone service/client will back up all your SMS's and other important info (contacts, call logs, pics, etc) to the cloud each day, where you can access them through a web interface from anywhere. Using this is a great way to keep your SMS inbox trimmed down to the few active threads you're using at any given time, which can sidestep much of the native issue in WM6.x
-Again, I think full-text searches of SMS's would require some 3rd-party client, though I can't say if any offer that.
-HTC and other dev's offer a number of voice recording options, most of which can be as simple as lauching the app, then just hitting record. Some can do .wav, some can do .mp3 and others, and all can save to your SD card. I'll also note here that there's a great free key remapper for the TP2 available in these forums, that would allow you to map the recorder app of your choice, to any button on the device, for easy opening if you use it frequently
-I don't know if there's a way to schedule a power on, but I think I've seen a solution here somewhere to schedule a soft-reset (the standard simple reboot procedure). Maybe someone more familiar with it could point you to it.
Let us know if you have any more questions!
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thanks for your responses guys. It seems dead system from MS point of view. They are now only on WP7 and stopped all work on WM6. Even TP2 is more than year old device and question is if there will be TP3 or something similar, soon. When it comes to memory and processor TP2 is kinda outdated piece of hardware. Though keyboard is outstanding, as well as some other functions. It is actually main reason for me to buy.
I hope that the community will keep this device alive Though, it is not so famous as HD2 what has much more users, and developers too.
My phone service seems to be nice one from MS it could solve my problem.
So, all the info I'm getting online makes me go for TP2... Now I just hope I'll get a good piece, as I heard some have problems and had to go for repair a few times...
Which ROM is the best - Heineken or Pilsner ;-)

There are still builds leaking from MS so someone is developing on the 6.5.x branch. To be honest, as a business user, there is no phone OS out there today that can match the features of 6.5.x. As long as MS has business users I don't see them stopping development on 6.5.x

Can I get a simpler SMS view on this thing?

I'm ready to throw my new phone to the floor and stomp on it until it dies! I really, really, really HATE the way SMS works! I have been using a HTC HD2 until it gave up on me a few days ago, and the Note 2 was the only phone I figured could make people say what they said when I bought the HD2 in 2010: "Why do you need such a big phone?" And the answer is of course: "You know what they say about guys with big phones...." But seriously, the "conversation" crap is so incredibly cumbersome when you have mail warnings as SMS and get about 30-40 of them every day. Is it possible to get the SMS view like it was on Windows Mobile 6.5, which I much prefer as a phone operating system. (I really mean this, even though most of you think I'm kidding or mad as a hatter!) I could live with an interface like K9 Mail, but I'm seriously not sure if I can tolerate the "chat/social network" style that I have at the moment. Please say that I can do something about it!

Basically what you want is unthreaded SMS, then?
Search the Play Store for an app called SMS Composer. It seems to support unthreaded SMS. The app looks wonky to me, like it might not be very high quality. Apparently doesn't even support MMS. But maybe try that one?
Or find an old Windows Mobile 6.5 phone on eBay, you mad hatter :silly:

Thanks, I'll have a look at that. And I have to say that as a small tablet the Note is too god to dump, really. I can actually read my evening news in bed, and I don't have to bring my 10" Notion Ink Adam tablet in addition to the phone, and that's really the saving grace of Android. And all the apps, of course...

I found another one that I liked: Pansi. It didn't really occur to me that I could find alternative SMS apps too... I guess it's a part of the whole "there's an app for that" thing!

[Q] Split out all day events from meetings?

Hi all,
Another question from the new guy. But first, I have to say that this app is amazing and is FINALLY letting me get exactly what I want on my phones home screen. So THANK YOU to everyone involved for that. Now, if I can just fumble my way through some more rich text...
My question this time is about all day events and splitting them out from the rest of my calendar for a given day. I work in a large department who use all day events to notify people when they are out of office. It works well in outlook (as long as people remember to set the "set time as free" option) to notify everyone when they will be OOO.
That said, on my widget, I want to group all the titles of all day events (with no extra info like start time, etc.) into one block of text. i.e. Manny OOO, Moe on Vaction, Jack on business travel. Then, in another list, i want to list out my actual appointments for the day.
I'm at a loss for where to even begin here? I've been toying with $#C0D#=1?#C0Shh\:mm#$ that I found online to try to skip to the first "real" appointment? But that just keeps returning blanks? It also feels like it has something to do with #C1D# but no idea how to properly use that either? Being an absolute noob at this stuff i am trying my best to hunt online and find answers, but its really challenging. Any help pointing me in the right direction is GREATLY appreciated.