I'm pretty new to WM and the THD is only my 2nd after TyTn II.
I believe there has been discussion on available software for hiding secret contact, sms and other data but none so in detail for THD.
I've tried Skb Mobile Safety Suite v2.02 but it does not work properly in WVGA. Can anyone advise what other softwares that have the following features?
Hide selective Outlook & sim contacts.
Hide selective Outlook & sim contacts from public section but accessible from password protected section.
Hide incoming/outgoing/missed call logs from these hidden contacts from public section but accessible from password protected section so that we still can return missed call.
Discreetly prompt incoming calls or missed calls from hidden contacts so that we can still choose to answer or return the call. It can be a completely discreet with no clues whatsoever or selectable silent or single ring tone, vibration, flashing icon, fake alerts etc.
Hide contact photo associated with the hidden contact.
Hide hidden contact sms or selective sms.
Hide incoming, received, sent, saved, deleted, draft sms from/to the above hidden contacts or selective sms even if contact are not hidden.
Discreet prompt for incoming sms as with incoming/missed calls.
Hide missed call sms alert from selected hidden contacts.
Hide any other data.
This is pretty self explanatory but recommendation is still welcome.
I know the wish list is exhausive but any recommendation and discussion on currently standalone software that can achieve the above features in parts or a combination of different softwares that offer part solution if not complete would be still be very much welcome. Full compatibility may not be an issue for now so long it is still passable. It will be better than having nothing at all.
In the meantime, I also hope developers would pick up the ideas above.
Cheers!
lol, what are you trying to hide from your girlfriend? just joking
Hahahaha ;DDD
Buy a cheap second phone. Much better chance of having your cake and eating it .
@ carz73
you said the mobile safety suite doesnt functions properly in wvga, but for what resolution is it? if it supports vga there is a wvga fix for vga only programs
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lol, what are you trying to hide from your girlfriend? just joking
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Correction. Not girlfriend but girlfriends and it's complicated but I'm not married so I don't think I'm way off my line too much
Shetlander said:
Buy a cheap second phone. Much better chance of having your cake and eating it .
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Unless I can hide the 2nd phone inside my ass, I'll be creating more suspicion and inviting much more painful experience.
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@ carz73
you said the mobile safety suite doesnt functions properly in wvga, but for what resolution is it? if it supports vga there is a wvga fix for vga only programs
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Thanks! I dig around for more info on wvga fix but I doubt Mobile Safety Suite hides sms based on selected contact at the most basic level and will require very much manual intervention. I may be wrong until I try out the fix.
If there's any appz that that hides sms based on selected phone contacts and a separate one that hides the contacts and call logs, I'll take it.
Come on everyone's so squeaky clean? Anyone has any other recommendation?
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Seems like WVGAFIX3 does not support WVGA <->QVGA which I think is required by Mobile Safety Suite.
same request
For most of your needs, there is an app which is called Magic Call (MagicCall). Look for it.
With this app you will be able to block calls and sms from certain numbers. It is really cool.
hmoroni said:
For most of your needs, there is an app which is called Magic Call (MagicCall). Look for it.
With this app you will be able to block calls and sms from certain numbers. It is really cool.
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i think he wants to hide calls/sms/email from certain contacts in a "secret" folder/area, 'cause he wants to keep contact to the girls and not ignore them ;-)
regards jan
p.s.1: beware of "cheeters"
p.s.2: would be interested in software like that as well ;-)
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i think he wants to hide calls/sms/email from certain contacts in a "secret" folder/area, 'cause he wants to keep contact to the girls and not ignore them ;-)
regards jan
p.s.1: beware of "cheeters"
p.s.2: would be interested in software like that as well ;-)
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You got it spot on! The key is being discreet and hide the tracks. I think I might have heard of similar appz for symbian. Wonder if the likes of CIAs and FBIs have such a software to stretch it abit... kidding... Actually, even if the appz/solution/workaround have some loopholes, girls being usually less IT savvy, it might still pass and I'll take it.
hmoroni said:
For most of your needs, there is an app which is called Magic Call (MagicCall). Look for it.
With this app you will be able to block calls and sms from certain numbers. It is really cool.
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Thanks! Really apprecite all forms of suggestion.
Just installed and still figuring it out. It does seems complicated and also "block" don't sound very right as jan understood my requirement. Girls are like money. You won't mind if you have more and you certainly don't "block" them.
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hmoroni, MagiCall is obviously a great appz. However, I'm not too sure if it suits my needs. When creating a new rule for incoming calls for the list of selected contacts, under "Operation" tab, options for "Action1" do not seem to suggest anything that will discreetly alert me so that I can choose to answer them when it is convenient to do so. The closest option is "Ignore" but will the ring tone still sound and/or the screen will still openly announce incoming calls rather than discreetly? If it does discreetly, then I'll still have to use another appz to hide the contact from public viewing, in which case I'm not sure MagiCall will still work as the contacts may no longer be recognised by it and therefore the rules will not apply.
hmm, I am sure the functionality you want can be implemented into an application, just cross your fingers and hope that theres a cheating unfaithful pimp developer reading this thread lol
But seriously an app that can do that would most likely become very very popular, so popular in fact that eventually windows mobile would gain 99% of the male market segment, and the remaining 1% would be on the FruitIphone
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hmm, I am sure the functionality you want can be implemented into an application, just cross your fingers and hope that theres a cheating unfaithful pimp developer reading this thread lol
But seriously an app that can do that would most likely become very very popular, so popular in fact that eventually windows mobile would gain 99% of the male market segment, and the remaining 1% would be on the FruitIphone
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Then perhaps I should write to M$? Bill Gate$ might already have a ready made appz. If not, it does sound like a great biz strategy. He should rope both of us in as advisers.
I've been doing lots of searching and reading. There might be some appz that do what I want in parts but the searching and reading gets very tedious and short of trying each and every appz, I can only begin to understand them a little here and there before I think the appz is worth a try. Surely, there should be something that come close. Anyone?
I heard about apps that hides calls but i cannot find it...so me interested aswel
anyone got the solution 4 thiss??? hahaha... kinda need it rite now.... hahaha
It is really strange that there is no such application for WM devices. I know there are some apps for Symbian OS who are successfully working this what you are looking for.
why don't you try "sms security". been using this for a while and it always save my neck . www.easyhelper.net
Try EZ Secret SMS
Nice idea for an application
i think i will start working on it, but i will not be using it so don't think much.
maybe also can have a GPS integration so it will know that you are with X girlfriend and it automatically hides everything related to other ones
love the idea, let me plan this right
Information Hide
Hide your private contacts and SMS and access it by a password.
With EasyHelper Information Hide, you can hide your private contacts and SMS and access it by a password. You can also restore the hidden contacts and SMS at any time.
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As some1 else stated this URL: http://www.easyhelper.net/ or better http://www.easyhelper.net/InformationHide.html
Information Hide - Havent tested it - at the bottom of the page
Try those ones
EZ Secret SMS
Skb SMS Manager and Organizer-Ultimate
EasyHelper SMS Security
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Hello again all,
I posted a few days ago about how I was going to move from MS to WAD2.
The thing about MS is although it's stable, and it works well..it's not configurable/customizable without great pain.
WAD is very configurable, but kills my battery in less than a day (with MS I can easily get 2 days or more). It's also very sluggish and doesn't seem to link directly into things eg, in MS hitting the SMS icon takes you into your sms folder, in WAD it takes you to the messages list where you have to select the sms folder adding additional clicks to get to what you want isn't really desirable. This is the same with the email icon.
So I thought I'd try winterface...which is far too complicated and just doesn't seem to be very user friendly
Is there anything else left to try? are these the top 3 that people are using?
Thanks
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Hello again all,
I posted a few days ago about how I was going to move from MS to WAD2.
The thing about MS is although it's stable, and it works well..it's not configurable/customizable without great pain.
WAD is very configurable, but kills my battery in less than a day (with MS I can easily get 2 days or more). It's also very sluggish and doesn't seem to link directly into things eg, in MS hitting the SMS icon takes you into your sms folder, in WAD it takes you to the messages list where you have to select the sms folder adding additional clicks to get to what you want isn't really desirable. This is the same with the email icon.
So I thought I'd try winterface...which is far too complicated and just doesn't seem to be very user friendly
Is there anything else left to try? are these the top 3 that people are using?
Thanks
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you can configure WAD to go to anything mate. The reason it is going to messaging when you want SMS is because the theme you are running links it that way. You can link to individual files, folders or .lnk files. THe .lnk files are great because you can pass parameters inside which is how the MS sms link is working anyway. There is no "sms" program, it IS the messaging program with a parameter passed upon execution.
I dont get too bad of battery life from WAD but I am nto really runnign aything else that would drain my batter so that may be helping me. There is nothing out there that can even shake a stick at WAD from a customization perspective. I say you stick with WAD and customize the themes yo ualready love with the links you desire.
ok I wanted to go grab more info for you about the sms thing. when looking at the sms.lnk file I created for my iphone theme, properties shows that to bring up sms directly you need to have
"tmail.exe" -service "SMS"
tmail.exe is just the messaging program and the rest tells it what service to start in. I believe setting to "MMS" also works as well as putting the account in the "". If you named you email Yahoo then "Yahoo" would work and th elnk would take you to the inbox of your yahoo account you set up
ok..that's a huge help as despite it's sluggishness and battery hungryness....I love the fact that I can do anything I want with WAD.
If only there was somewhere that told me about that command!!..I've downloaded the manuals etc, and there's no mention in them about how to use such commands, or how to make a meter, etc etc..
and I hate asking people too many questions.
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ok..that's a huge help as despite it's sluggishness and battery hungryness....I love the fact that I can do anything I want with WAD.
If only there was somewhere that told me about that command!!..I've downloaded the manuals etc, and there's no mention in them about how to use such commands, or how to make a meter, etc etc..
and I hate asking people too many questions.
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lol i hear ya. I learned from here and other forums. I dont know all that much either. I just get an idea, assume it is possible and go search for ways to make it a reality
A Small Story to serve as an introductory:
So a while back, when I got my brilliant Excalibur, I started developing small applications. Some of you may recall the, now long dead , thread I had called CycloneApps [By Request]. I started with C#, and did some ok things [in my opinion] and they helped serve as a learning block for bigger and better developments. I have gone from CMail.exe, the command-line replacement to tmail.exe, all the way to FFP_LockScreen [Fake FingerPrint LockScreen], which unfortunately was aimed at Touch-Screen phone users as a project I undertook as I showed interest on a thread in the Software Development sub-forum. I got my original inspirations and 'drive' to develop from this here community, the Excalibur owners or supporters, and I thought it be best that I now fulfill a request made by Ookba, the great Chef who has brought our phones new life.
See, shortly after I started taking requests, Ookba suggested I re-make SMSBubbles to be more functional with the ROM. At the time, with the speeds of the .NET CF, it seemed impossible to really do. But I come back to you all now with the knowledge of C++ So as a token of my appreciation to all Excalibur owners, I want to develop CycBubbles, an SMSBubbles remake with features YOU want!
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Having said all of that, I ask now that if anyone has any interest in such a program becoming available to the Excalibur, they reply to this thread with Ideas concerning one of the following:
Soft-Keys: What should the LEFT soft-key and RIGHT soft-key do [ and under what circumstances] ?
Look and Feel: Do you like the SMSBubbles 'bubble', or do you want something different? [Realize that more complex designs = slower speed]
Rules: How about some filter-rules about when the bubble should or should NOT appear.
Positioning: Do we all like the bubble at the bottom of the screen? Maybe we can make it more PPC-Like if it were in the Center, or from the TOP.
Extra Functions: What kind of extras would you like? (i.e. Should I utilize the 0 - 9 keys on the keyboard to do something?)
Once I get the ideas from YOU guys/girls, on what YOU want this program to do, I can start developing
Please consider
if you want to see this program really flourish
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Rules would be awesome. How about setting bubbles only for certain contacts? Would the .cab install work for other ROM's besides ookba's?
I would most definitely aim to make the program ROM INdependent.
Thank You for the feedback
it would be interesting to make the left and right soft keys customizable...
and as for the location/look of the bubbles, that to would be nice to customize and to relocate wherever the user feels. top, bottom, left, right, center...
the rules sounds good, and maybe apply an ignore feature to certain annoying contacts lol. like a black list on contacts that the bubbles won't show up for.<-- pretty much what Frostmoon said. lol
pretty much make it user customizable friendly.
nice to see you around these parts again.
Due to the rather disheartening amount of feedback on this thread, I will most likely not develop this in the near future .
I am currently consumed with finishing up my next version of Fake FingerPrint LockScreen for Touch-Screen phones, but that should be over in about a week.
I have been pondering re-starting development on my Horizon Home-Screen, if any of you remember that (if not, you can search it). My further knowledge of C++ will most definitely assist me in making this HomeScreen I had dreamed of making a while back when I only knew C#.
So I suppose be on the lookout for any news on that, and check here occassionally to see if I post back. For now, I am going to leave this on Stage 1 (Gathering Ideas), NOT DISCONTINUED, because I do hope to have the time to come back to this soon and give back to the community that started me off
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Due to the rather disheartening amount of feedback on this thread, I will most likely not develop this in the near future .
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Yeah it's a real shame as the idea was requested by users yet response so small, no longer have an Excalibur but think that the development of a SMS bubble app with more configurable options would be welcomed by many smartphone users and not just Excalibur, maybe worth thinking as a project for D&H rather than just Excalibur users.
>sms bubble duration
>marque of sms
>if recived multiple sms we shuld b able to select the one to view....
>customizable soft buttons becoz diffrent user wants different settings..
>user created themes
> rules is another great idea... coz somtimes service provider sends lots of annoing sms + others
>hide the vip sms.. and it requires password to view the sms( it can b a seperate function to lock the sms bubble with password)
>photo of the sender... if it is from the saved contact...
> a floating bubble would b great the flows from up-down or vice versa.... until the user press a button..
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>sms bubble duration
>marque of sms
>if recived multiple sms we shuld b able to select the one to view....
>customizable soft buttons becoz diffrent user wants different settings..
>user created themes
> rules is another great idea... coz somtimes service provider sends lots of annoing sms + others
>hide the vip sms.. and it requires password to view the sms( it can b a seperate function to lock the sms bubble with password)
>photo of the sender... if it is from the saved contact...
> a floating bubble would b great the flows from up-down or vice versa.... until the user press a button..
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good ideas!
stylez said:
Yeah it's a real shame as the idea was requested by users yet response so small, no longer have an Excalibur but think that the development of a SMS bubble app with more configurable options would be welcomed by many smartphone users and not just Excalibur, maybe worth thinking as a project for D&H rather than just Excalibur users.
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yes, it is a shame. i was really looking forward to this.
best of luck with you home screen development, will check in on that time to time.
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>sms bubble duration
>marque of sms
>if recived multiple sms we shuld b able to select the one to view....
>customizable soft buttons becoz diffrent user wants different settings..
>user created themes
> rules is another great idea... coz somtimes service provider sends lots of annoing sms + others
>hide the vip sms.. and it requires password to view the sms( it can b a seperate function to lock the sms bubble with password)
>photo of the sender... if it is from the saved contact...
> a floating bubble would b great the flows from up-down or vice versa.... until the user press a button..
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As stated above, good ideas!
@Cyclonezephyrxz7 - This can be a good start don't you think?. Thanks for your work dude, I hope to see this project rolling out
@Mr.Clown (and all others too)
Yes, it did serve as a sort of inspiration to start up. Thank You to those who did contribute ideas thus-far. I have not started up a thread yet, but http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7166724&postcount=39
Expect something soon (Within a month maybe?)
Also, I am now officially a co-founder, and primary developer for Chicken-Egg Solutions. This will become my main venue for application development and requests, as well as web-design, computer repair, and problem solutions (Most of these will be taken care of by my friend, the other Co-Founder). The website will be up soon (www.chicken-eggsolutions.com), check back every so often
Hi Cyclone,
We met in another thread. But I would like to raise my function request here for your consideration.
I am looking for a delivery note management function that allows my to keep track of my sms receiver. I would like to know who, by name, have received my sms and at what time. I don't know if such function is appropriate for the software you are developing. If so, please consider to add this function into it. If not, appreciate if you can point me to the right direction.
So are you requesting, as opposed to the normal Delivery Requests that Windows Offers, to make a type of 'Delivery Notification' that gets stored in some XML-like file for future reference?
It will be great if the software can list out the receiver name and date/time of the delivery notification. It will ever greater if it can match the sms/delivery notification with the acknowledgement send out by the receiver after receiving my sms.
If it only output an XML, user will have to figure out how to display it on a mobile phone.
how about an option of reading the incoming sms....like in nokia mobiles
Like Text-To-Speech?
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Like Text-To-Speech?
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ya... how about that.. i think it shuld be customizable soft button or a different button..
I will see. I feel that that may increase the size of the app distinctly, and also distinctly reduce the speed. Although I could probably figure a way to not let it be affected.
Anywho, Thank you, ALL, so much for these ideas. I suppose that I will start attempting to make this once I am fully done with my FFP_LS pro (Which, by the way, works on Excaliburs! and other non-touch-screen phones ) and when I get my internet back fully.
Cyclonezephyrxz7 said:
I will see. I feel that that may increase the size of the app distinctly, and also distinctly reduce the speed. Although I could probably figure a way to not let it be affected.
Anywho, Thank you, ALL, so much for these ideas. I suppose that I will start attempting to make this once I am fully done with my FFP_LS pro (Which, by the way, works on Excaliburs! and other non-touch-screen phones ) and when I get my internet back fully.
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Thanks for your work and for sharing it, we will wait then
Revised Idea, and then some
Okay, so this post contains a little meat to it
1) I want to let people know about FFP_LockScreen Pro 2.0, now available on my website( www.chicken-eggsolutions.com ). My partner and I do app development as well as web design/development. FFP_LS Pro 2.0 is fully based on C++, has many customizable components, and best of all it is (what I consider to be) a pretty legitimate replacement lock for our phones. I have made this version (and all future versions) compliant with our lovely Excaliburs. Instead of having to press the screen, trick people with a "slight of hand" by putting your finger on-screen while pressing the space-bar with your knuckle (thats how it works for me) and it will start scanning. Trust me, it mystified half my family already haha. Anywho, it is shareware, so there is a free NON-EXPIRING trial. THe trial has its limiatations however. Also, another feature that is in this for our lovely Exca's that is currently NOT available to TOuch-Screen phones is true replacement (sorta) of the default lock. By using specific API commands, I was able to get it to run when we initiate the default lock! Cocky as it may sound, I feel this lockscreen beats S2U2 in 3 ways: (1) Tests have shown it to boot faster, (2) it actually replaces the default lock, and doesn't use some timeout trick, and (3) is actually blocks other windows [unlike S2U2 which can be overridden by pressing the TaskManager key or Messaging Key (on my phone at least)]. So yeah, personally I recommend it, but I made it. I will extend the same challenge here as I did on the Development forums: If you can make an interesting skin for the program, you can win a free license (3$ value)
2) So recently I have become extremely pissed off with tmail.exe. When I have actual 'conversation - length' messages, it is slow and just overall frustrating! So I thought, "Hey, I am already starting CycBubbles...why not make it a whole 'suite' type thing". So I am considering making my own Messaging Client EXE. It would be a major switch, as it would eliminate CE MAPI for the most part (it would keep messages stored there, but its main access would be via XML). Then as an extension to this I can h ave CycBubbles. Generally, I find, SMSBubbles works...and it is reliant on CE Mapi, so I can make one reliant on XML, not CE MAPI, that works comfortably with my own client. What do you think of that idea? This would obviously require a lot more time. But if it is what I imagine I can do, it will be faster and better
So I guess that is it really... If i remember anything else I wanted to say, I will post back again!
How do you inform Microsoft officially about things that stop you enjoying WP7 ??
Is there are phone number or email address etc ??
The privacy thing really bugs me that you don`t have the option to stop text messages popping up on my locked screen for example.
Also I would like them to fix the ability to search GAL with Exchange 2002 as it means I must carry two phones.
I am sure if Microsoft want to improve the experience for more users they would apprieciate feed back but I have no idea how to contact them... Tried calling thier UK customer service but it was a waste of time.
Have you tried social.answers.Microsoft.com?
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Have you tried social.answers.Microsoft.com?
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Correct, the current official way to submit feedback is http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsphone7/threads or http://forums.create.msdn.com/forums/ for feedback on development
Well I am sure many multinational companies still use exchange 2002 and my colleagues Iphone supports it for GAL but wp7 does not slightly embarrassing.
If you have bugs, I'm happy to report them to Microsoft for you. I don't work for them, but I am in direct touch with the WP7 platform manager.
I will not, however, report feature requests right now.
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Well I am sure many multinational companies still use exchange 2002.
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Oh? How sure?
im not sure if its a bug. but some things down show up on my facebook wall (when u click the "me" tile)
for example, pictures people upload and tag of me. it shows the ones i upload tho.
also.. would be nice to be able to tag the people im taking pictures.... but the first one. not sure if thats a bug. or just a missing feature. ur judgment call. but it would sure help so i can stop the drunken madness pictures before everyone else sees them. lol (prefeably be able to stop them when im still drunk. and not hung over in the morning checking facebook on my laptop)
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Oh? How sure?
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owenw said:
If you have bugs, I'm happy to report them to Microsoft for you. I don't work for them, but I am in direct touch with the WP7 platform manager.
I will not, however, report feature requests right now.
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Could you please let them know alot of my friends and colleagues have been put off by not having the option to switch off the feature where new text messages display their contents in the notification panel. This even happens when the screen is locked and can be embarrassing when its personal or commercially sensitive information is being displayed in full view of other people.
Also will Global Address Lists be available when using Exchage 2003 or even 2003 (not sure which my company uses). It makes my work life easier to have this feature which I had in windows mobile and Iphone has it to.
Thanks
ebzrascal said:
Could you please let them know alot of my friends and colleagues have been put off by not having the option to switch off the feature where new text messages display their contents in the notification panel. This even happens when the screen is locked and can be embarrassing when its personal or commercially sensitive information is being displayed in full view of other people.
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There's a high tech solution to this: flip your phone so the screen is facing downwards when it's locked. Unless Superman is under the table, nobody will see anything.
http://blog.walshie.me/2011/01/25/forthcoming-windows-phone-update-the-bits-that-are-real/
This just in.
I don't see a major problem but here's the news for you!
Sad. If I'm reading that right, C&P won't function in the phone app...for...like...copying a phone number from one area (maybe from a browser) to the new contact input fields.
Thank you, MS, for such a ...erm...experience...with WP7
Well, you are reading it wrong. The stuff is about third party applications. It doesn't say anything about native apps, so we don't know how it will function and where.
As regards third party apps, there's nothing wrong with using a control designed for text, for, er, displaying text. That's the way it should be. Not everything should be selectable, and it isn't selectable in all OSes including "big" Windows.
MartyLK said:
Sad. If I'm reading that right, C&P won't function in the phone app...for...like...copying a phone number from one area (maybe from a browser) to the new contact input fields.
Thank you, MS, for such a ...erm...experience...with WP7
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Well, depending on how the text is set up, you should be able to just tap a phone number in any built-in app and it will bring up the create contact section.
I read from the article that in 3rd party apps you'll be able to c&p only text from text boxes. So you can't copy twitter tweet right from the timeline.
So apparently you'll be able to c&p whatever you want from text boxes,
Plus probably other displayed content from native apps.
So I think not a huge problem here.
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Well, depending on how the text is set up, you should be able to just tap a phone number in any built-in app and it will bring up the create contact section.
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Was just, for the sake of minimizing comment, using that as an example, not as limited to. I'm more concerned with being about take information from emails or text messages or other content in a browser and being able to put it elsewhere when I need to.
I hope nobody is going to try to tell me I never have need for it...sheesh.
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Was just, for the sake of minimizing comment, using that as an example, not as limited to. I'm more concerned with being about take information from emails or text messages or other content in a browser and being able to put it elsewhere when I need to.
I hope nobody is going to try to tell me I never have need for it...sheesh.
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I'm fairly sure copy & paste has been shown in places like the web browser, email, and office during the demos. Don't worry so much, this article clearly states 3rd party apps.
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I'm fairly sure copy & paste has been shown in places like the web browser, email, and office during the demos. Don't worry so much, this article clearly states 3rd party apps.
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Cool. Appreciate the update.
MartyLK said:
I'm more concerned with being about take information from emails or text messages or other content in a browser and being able to put it elsewhere when I need to.
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Anywhere you can select text, like you can in the browser, should work. Text messages (unless they change it) you would have to go through the motions of choosing Forward from the longpress menu then select the text from the text box; a bit long-winded but doable.
If Microsoft can add the function I would imagine DEVs could also make use of it in their apps. I could be wrong.
Yeah, they're talking about how devs can modify their text fields to utilize the C&P feature when they update their apps.
Hope they actually do this...
Thanks for the post. Been waiting for this.
This, while exactly what I expected after hearing what Mr. Kindel had to say, is a downer. Now, I don't use cut'n'paste that often on phones, but when I do it's almost exclusively from non-edit controls.
I would also have expected a way to copy'n'paste images considering they see Office as such a big thing, and TBH I quite often paste product images into OneNote on the computer - which syncs perfectly to the phone. Of course you're unable to edit the photo note on the phone, but just being able to cut'n'paste them would be great still.
TBQH this looks more like a half-assed implementation done quickly to get an update out the door.
If copy-n-paste is available at API level, there is nothing to stop app developers to implement whatever they like to support the feature directly.
The limitation of text box is only a limitation when the devs are too lazy to re-complile their code.
Of course, if such feature is not available at API level, that will be a true limitation. Personally, without multi-tasking support for 3rd party apps, copy-n-paste usage will still be quite limited.
Without the tradditional stylus and resistive touch screen, try to accurately select the text you want to copy on a capacitive screen using your fingers is nothing but frustration. I tried a few times on my Android phone and never worked for me. A pen and paper is much easier to do than copy-n-paste.
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...Without the tradditional stylus and resistive touch screen, try to accurately select the text you want to copy on a capacitive screen using your fingers is nothing but frustration. I tried a few times on my Android phone and never worked for me. A pen and paper is much easier to do than copy-n-paste.
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Have you tried a WP7 device? I know we can't currently select, but the "cursor" that is implemented at the moment (useful for adding/deleting stuff in texts) is pretty good.
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Have you tried a WP7 device? I know we can't currently select, but the "cursor" that is implemented at the moment (useful for adding/deleting stuff in texts) is pretty good.
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I must say the virtual cursor on WP7 is pretty nicely implemented.
Android sucks compared to this and is a pain sometimes.
I guess you guys haven't tried 2.3 or any new samsung devices. Copy and paste, and the cursor is very finger friendly.
I have used cursor on Android 2.2. It is much better than 2.1 but still copy-n-paste largely dependent on app's implementation.
Capacity touch screens are inheritally inaccurate. Cursors make it less painful to use but can't eliminate that inaccuracy. You just got a tool to let you fine tune your selection. It still takes multiple tries to accomplish the job. And god forbid, if you want to select a paragrah out (multiple lines) of an email, that cursor won't be much help to you.
foxbat121 said:
If copy-n-paste is available at API level, there is nothing to stop app developers to implement whatever they like to support the feature directly.
The limitation of text box is only a limitation when the devs are too lazy to re-complile their code.
Of course, if such feature is not available at API level, that will be a true limitation. Personally, without multi-tasking support for 3rd party apps, copy-n-paste usage will still be quite limited.
Without the tradditional stylus and resistive touch screen, try to accurately select the text you want to copy on a capacitive screen using your fingers is nothing but frustration. I tried a few times on my Android phone and never worked for me. A pen and paper is much easier to do than copy-n-paste.
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You already could select and hold and image to save it, then go to One Note and insert it.
I remember holding the.control button on WM devices and selecting/copying multiple items. Those were the days.
Hi,
We make Contactive(it's an app)(just to make sure we're on the same page here). It's guaranteed to (insert sips ref here) rustle your jimmies.
We've received some great feedback lately and we're hungry like a wolf for moar. That's where you come in:fingers-crossed:. Fill our suggestion box full of stuff. Types of feedback that we like to munch on:
- all positive comments
- A bunch of five stars pls
- words that want to make us cry
- And I'm legally binded to ask for some constructive criticism. Not too much though. Our dev's get angry pretty easily(please do not tweet to contactive that i said that).
Also too our lead dev is single(lololololol) he like's to go on very brief walks on the beach, he gets tired very easily, and his fave movie is the about the ring.
I guess I should say something about the app now. Um, well it makes your phone ring, or vibrate, when you get a call. It tells you if a celebrity is calling you like Dr. Dre or if its your mailman, or if its just your mum.
But wait there's more:highfive:, if your mom's on twitter, and let's face it there's like a 99% chance she is, it will show you her latest tweet before you pick up her call... you'll be prepared. Also too it'll import all of your friends from Facebook, Twitter, Linkedin(if you have a job), and Gmail to your phone's address book. It identifies unknown callers too by crawling over the inter-webs for all public information connected to that number(ie. location, name,a picture if available, and some other stuff I cant remember.
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http://contactive.com/
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...forums&utm_medium=XDADevelopers&utm_term=post
Also I forgot to say that our website is the bees knees, so click the link in the op. pls.
contactive_dave said:
Hi,
We make Contactive(it's an app)(just to make sure we're on the same page here). It's guaranteed to (insert sips ref here) rustle your jimmies.
We've received some great feedback lately and we're hungry like a wolf for moar. That's where you come in:fingers-crossed:. Fill our suggestion box full of stuff. Types of feedback that we like to munch on:
- all positive comments
- A bunch of five stars pls
- words that want to make us cry
- And I'm legally binded to ask for some constructive criticism. Not too much though. Our dev's get angry pretty easily(please do not tweet to contactive that i said that).
Also too our lead dev is single(lololololol) he like's to go on very brief walks on the beach, he gets tired very easily, and his fave movie is the about the ring.
I guess I should say something about the app now. Um, well it makes your phone ring, or vibrate, when you get a call. It tells you if a celebrity is calling you like Dr. Dre or if its your mailman, or if its just your mum.
But wait there's more:highfive:, if your mom's on twitter, and let's face it there's like a 99% chance she is, it will show you her latest tweet before you pick up her call... you'll be prepared. Also too it'll import all of your friends from Facebook, Twitter, Linkedin(if you have a job), and Gmail to your phone's address book. It identifies unknown callers too by crawling over the inter-webs for all public information connected to that number(ie. location, name,a picture if available, and some other stuff I cant remember.
Seriously though View attachment 2043155
http://contactive.com/
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...forums&utm_medium=XDADevelopers&utm_term=post
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The app looks pretty nice ... :good: ... And the WebSIte Design ... AWESOME !! (may i ask who made the website ?) .... Keep up ... !! :good:
Looks awesome. can we get a dark theme?
this apps sounds good, gonna give a try. thread subscribe. thks to dev team :good:
I'm not trying to discredit your app but what does it bring that the others don't have ? I tried it works exactly like https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.callapp.contacts that is my main contacts app
Giving it a try; seems like a useful application, but I am a little concerned about the massive consolidation of personal information. The privacy policy is a good read!
Can you add a feature to remove duplicate numbers in phone contacts
This is good:good:, but feel they have two or more contacts,
numbers on the phone does not directly connect to facebook
hanifbsk said:
Can you add a feature to remove duplicate numbers in phone contacts
This is good:good:, but feel they have two or more contacts,
numbers on the phone does not directly connect to facebook
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what do you mean by duplicate numbers?
hisname said:
what do you mean by duplicate numbers?
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I have a lot of duplicate numbers in the phone
eg for my number, there are 4 same name in the phonebook,
and it automatically removes it,
and hope this app can change the google phonebook, not only the number on the application
niranjan94 said:
The app looks pretty nice ... :good: ... And the WebSIte Design ... AWESOME !! (may i ask who made the website ?) .... Keep up ... !! :good:
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thanks! our in-house front-end guy plus designer made it.
honki24 said:
Looks awesome. can we get a dark theme?
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We've had a few requests for theme customization. right now, we're busy with bug fixes and core features, but we're hoping to get to a place where we can work on themes. We know the blue is super bright, and some people like it, some people don't.
exadeci said:
I'm not trying to discredit your app but what does it bring that the others don't have ? I tried it works exactly like https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.callapp.contacts that is my main contacts app
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Yeah. CallApp is our main competitor - and right now we do pretty much the same thing. But we're tryna eventually leapfrog them.
hanifbsk said:
Can you add a feature to remove duplicate numbers in phone contacts
This is good:good:, but feel they have two or more contacts,
numbers on the phone does not directly connect to facebook
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Not sure what's happening there but Contactive SHOULD be taking care of your duplicate numbers. There's also an option to manually merge/link profiles when you go into an individual profile and hit settings. Could you shoot us an email at [email protected]?
PS. Thank you to @TheRomMistress for the article!
I'm trying to wrap my brain around how your app works and where the line in privacy is.
Without actually installing your app, my theory is...
* Your app takes a snapshot of my address book and pushes that to a 3rd party service
* This service builds up a database of numbers, names, and useful information to find people on social networking sites
* Some of this information is pushed back down to the user for their particular contact
* Once a call comes in, if the user already exists the app should know which accounts on what social networks the pole for the callers most recent postings
* If the caller doesn't exist in the address book, a quick ping off to the 3rd party service is made to request any known information on this new caller's phone number, and that's pushed back down to the user and relevant content is shown
Is all that approximately correct or do I have it all backwards? Thanks!
I'm really liking the layout of this app. Good work! Could you guys incorporate a way to turn of the dialer sound?
rubin110 said:
I'm trying to wrap my brain around how your app works and where the line in privacy is.
Without actually installing your app, my theory is...
* Your app takes a snapshot of my address book and pushes that to a 3rd party service
* This service builds up a database of numbers, names, and useful information to find people on social networking sites
* Some of this information is pushed back down to the user for their particular contact
* Once a call comes in, if the user already exists the app should know which accounts on what social networks the pole for the callers most recent postings
* If the caller doesn't exist in the address book, a quick ping off to the 3rd party service is made to request any known information on this new caller's phone number, and that's pushed back down to the user and relevant content is shown
Is all that approximately correct or do I have it all backwards? Thanks!
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Iam totally agree with RUBIN110..Big concern is privacy .I'm not trying to discredit your app but App from Newyork ..,,,Whats About NSA?..Whats about U.S. and British government mass surveillance programs?
I really like the look of the app and I want to use it, but I'm concerned about the privacy aspects.
Do you collect the data and use or store it outside of this app?
rubin110 said:
I'm trying to wrap my brain around how your app works and where the line in privacy is.
Without actually installing your app, my theory is...
* Your app takes a snapshot of my address book and pushes that to a 3rd party service
* This service builds up a database of numbers, names, and useful information to find people on social networking sites
* Some of this information is pushed back down to the user for their particular contact
* Once a call comes in, if the user already exists the app should know which accounts on what social networks the pole for the callers most recent postings
* If the caller doesn't exist in the address book, a quick ping off to the 3rd party service is made to request any known information on this new caller's phone number, and that's pushed back down to the user and relevant content is shown
Is all that approximately correct or do I have it all backwards? Thanks!
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As the lowly intern, this is my understanding of how it works - from both asking a bunch of questions and sitting next to the dev guys everyday listening to what they talk about:
You got it mostly correct.
1. yes. The app saves your address book in Contactive's database and stores links (not info) to matching social network profiles. This info is NOT shared with 3rd party services.
2. yes. The service builds up a database of the following: name, number, social network IDs
3. yes. The info you see for a particular contact all depends on what info you can see if you were to visit that user's Facebook page. For example, if you are friends with Alex, all of the info you can normally see on Alex's Facebook will show up within Contactive. If you are NOT friends with Alex, only the info Alex has made public will be seen within Contactive.
4. yes - IF 1. you are friends with them already on the social networks you connect to Contactive, and/or 2. Contactive's database has connected that number to a specific social network account.
5. yes. If the caller doesnt exist in your address book, requests are sent to Contactive's database and third parties such as yelp, facebook, etc - all the different sources we use.
gaquarian said:
Iam totally agree with RUBIN110..Big concern is privacy .I'm not trying to discredit your app but App from Newyork ..,,,Whats About NSA?..Whats about U.S. and British government mass surveillance programs?
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We're pretty sure if the NSA wanted any of the info we have, they can get it off of Facebook. LOL
imtoomuch said:
I really like the look of the app and I want to use it, but I'm concerned about the privacy aspects.
Do you collect the data and use or store it outside of this app?
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Nope. We don't use or store it for anything other than to bolster our caller ID feature. We won't sell any of our information either.
Are you able to add an option to silence the key press tone?
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Are you able to add an option to silence the key press tone?
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youre actually the second person today to ask about that. I'll bring it up to the dev team and report back.
Looks cool. Any plans for a dark theme and integrating call block( damn telemarketers)
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