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Best Radio ROM for T-Mobile UK

Hi, What is the best Radio ROM for my Vario II which curently has
Pro black 2.5
SPL 2.10 opli v7
Radio ROM 1.40
I use T-Mobile UK.
I don't think the signal quality is very good on 1.40 as I was on the phone and my wife said her voice was echoing...? I was using my bluetooth headset...but it never happened before the upgrade..? Before 1.40 I had 1.41 and I couldn't even connect to the network
Also, why does the start bar sometimes hide....? and how can I add a running programs shortcut on the bottom like I had on WM5..I can't seem to do it....?
Sorry for sounding like a newbie..I've looked in the WIKI but can't find it

I had some problems with 1.40, ranging from no radio at all to bricking the device.
What did you settle on in the end? I'm also on T-Mobile UK.

trapper said:
I had some problems with 1.40, ranging from no radio at all to bricking the device.
What did you settle on in the end? I'm also on T-Mobile UK.
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I'm still on the 1.40 and it works ok actually but I think it could be better.

I have had no problems so far with 1.40 radio and lvsw 23/4.

Hi,
I was using 1.40.30.00 and found it to be a great improvement over the other radio's
I mainly use my phone in West London and Central London.
I have now moved to 1.41.00.10 and will test it performance over the next few days.
Thanks
Msuk

Hi,
Radio 1.40.30.00 caused my battery to drain very fast. Since updating to version 1.41.00.10 I have had no problems.

I tried 1.41 but found it to be a bit less stable than 1.40 which I have gone back to. That seems to be about the best in my experience but they all have an issue with dropping calls/being unable to make receive calls if the phone is having problems switching back and forth between GSM/3G.

I found 1.40 my signal strength was very weak, compared to previous version i'd used, especially 1.38.
But i have just installed 1.41 and it seems better again, i'm going to stick with this for a while and see how i get on.
ps. i'm not sure the WM6 forum is the best place to be discussing radios

Thats wierd. I have the same setup as some of you guys and when I put 1.41 in my network didn't come at all. I don't really want to try it again. But i'm thinking if I should

I am using 1.38.30.1 - it feels much better than 1.40.. in terms of battery life and reception is stronger than my experience with all the other radios tried. Speed seems fine, HSDPA works fine. However I stay mostly on GSM to save battery due to poor reception at home and switch to 3G/ HSDPA only when really needed.

T-Mobile UK and 3G problems
Guys, please note that if you have problems with 3G coverage - for example missed calls or problems with making calls - it is probably network's fault, not necessarily Radio ROM. I was experiencing such problems while using original T-Mobile's WM5 ROM. People couldn't reach me while I've had full 3G coverage in Central London, and I also couldn't place any call at all. Switching manually to GSM-only mode solved all problems. I've complained to CS about that, they admitted to have some 3G issues, and gave £25 discount of my bill. Also, friend of mine having Nokia N70 also reported similar problems with 3G, he switched to GSM-only and is far more happy now.
Anyway, I was using 1.38 Radio for about 2 weeks with no problems whatsoever. Since yesterday I have 1.41 - so far, so good.

I agree. Switching manually to GSM used to solve the problem. In some areas it looked like GSM and 3G were changing every 2 seconds. But I do need 3G for fast browsing.

It may be network problems but you'd expect a radio to be able to switch seamlessly without impact the voice service though wouldn't you.

t-mobile UK radio trouble

I'm on radio 1.47 with black satin on tmob UK.
My mobile phone is useless when i speak to people all i can hear is a lot of crackle interspersed with words! I think they can here me.
Where can i find a radio to downgrade to and which is best for tmob uk?
ta
bb

No joy...
I have tried Black Satin on my phone and had no reception problems.
I have just tried my current set up (see sig.) using my T-Mob sim...I did not have any problems with reception.
There is the 1.48 radio from the AT&T rom listed in WIKI perhaps that will help.

bingobob said:
I'm on radio 1.47 with black satin on tmob UK.
My mobile phone is useless when i speak to people all i can hear is a lot of crackle interspersed with words! I think they can here me.
Where can i find a radio to downgrade to and which is best for tmob uk?
ta
bb
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bb,
I am on T-Mobile UK with the radio version 1.47 and have no problems at all. I am not sure that there was any advantage with the move to this radio from 1.43 and I have seen others indicate that 1.43 was a radio optimised for the UK so it might be worth changing to that.
All the radios are on this site here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms. You will also find links to the posts related to them so it may be worth a read. However, given your problem (which seems strange from what I have read and seen myself) I'd recommend checking you have HardSPL first then giving 1.43 a go. The highest numbers are certainly not always the best for everyone.
Good luck

t-mobile UK radio Problem
Try using radio 1.48, Im on t-mobile UK and using Schaps lastest 3.57a ROM with radio 1.48 its brilliant, no problems what so ever.

bingobob said:
I'm on radio 1.47 with black satin on tmob UK.
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Radio 1.47+Black Satin+T-Mobile UK = perfect for me.

i tried radio 1.47 and hardly got any signal so now using 1.43 wich is very good, did try 1.48 before and seemed very good holds on to 3g more than 1.43 i think so i'm going to go back to 1.48 very soon.

DT39 said:
i tried radio 1.47 and hardly got any signal so now using 1.43 wich is very good, did try 1.48 before and seemed very good holds on to 3g more than 1.43 i think so i'm going to go back to 1.48 very soon.
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So many of use are in doubt about the best radio - now if only we had a tool that monitored actual radio performance over a day or week of normal activity that could provide some form of objective assessment of performance of one radio and circumstances against another.
I find that for every 10 people in favour of a particular radio there are likely to be 10 more that think it is poor. Clearly locality (country/band/Edge/GPRS and 3G/HSDPA are all factors but? Can anyone create a capability to record forum user input for any given radio that also took account of location and provider - then we might more clearly see trends.
It is all too easy to be tempted by the latest radio and sometimes our assessments might well be clouded by anticipation rather than reality. I find that the apparent performance of the T-Mobile network is variable for even a given static location - that makes it difficult to make a sound judgement.
Ho hum... Shall I go back to 1.43 or give 1.48 a try?

I tried using 1.4.7 with Black Majic but it just didn't work that well.. I could here the other person perfectly however they could not hear a word I said.. I've upgraded to 1.48 and Black Satin and the reception is perfect (best yet) on T-Mobile UK.. only problem now is the wifi.
I've got a wireless N network and the signal in the house is full strength when connected however I have to manually click connect everytime using the option in the network settings.. The network is only using Mac Filtering so not sure what the problem is. I''ve tried to indicate that it is a hidden network but without joy. Anybody have any ideas?

1.46 is good for me (batt life is good too)
1.47 had issues,

Would it be possible to give your locations were you are experiancing these radio issues or bad call qaulity iusses please
Maxim123

Suggestion
Hi
Also T-Mobile UK - i have had problems with all custom roms - seems fine for a while then data dies requiring a reboot.
This changed with the new dopod release and 1.47.10 radio, then the latest sleuth 3.1 dev rom which is faultless for me.
I think the problem varies dependant on where in the uk you are, the sort of coverage you get - for the record im in Durham.
Steveapp

I'm in Cardiff, but I had issues in all South Wales with custom roms. The only one that worked fine with me is Orange 1.38.00.01 (I didn't even feel the need to try 1.48)

steveapp said:
Hi
Also T-Mobile UK - i have had problems with all custom roms - seems fine for a while then data dies requiring a reboot.
This changed with the new dopod release and 1.47.10 radio, then the latest sleuth 3.1 dev rom which is faultless for me.
I think the problem varies dependant on where in the uk you are, the sort of coverage you get - for the record im in Durham.
Steveapp
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agreed, but I'm still running an older radio and its working fine also. The Dopod rom is the nuts.
Neil.

Hi All
Im on Tmob UK and live in the Southampton area. I get a good signal in the area and frankly all the ater radios I have tried work ok. My particular problem is in builbding coverage in that I work in a large communications centre and inside the signal is poor to non existant. This is where I find the difference shows in the roms and the best for me is 1.27. It is one of the few roms that seems to reliably deal with a loss of signal and then reattaching the data connection after a period with no signal. It also seems to have the best poor signal acquisition.
Ive tried them all and have always gone back to 1.27, no others have been better and most have been worse.
Rob

Best Radio ROM for roaming?

My question is, when you are overseas using your local providers roaming options to still use your phone, should you use a radio that works best on the network in the country you are visiting or that works best on your home network?
I have tried 1.46.00.11 and 1.50.08.11 on my New Zealand Vodafone network and neither support incoming calls but other radio functionality works fine (also noted here). So I stick with good old trusty 1.38.00.11.
When I go to Japan next week I want this still to work so I am hesitant to put the "leading" radio in the poll on as I may not be able to receive calls.
I will be using SoftBank in Japan, but I will be receiving calls redirected from Vodafone. I'll take a couple of radio ROMS on my card to flash if need be while I'm over there, but I was curious if anyone knew exactly what the biggest influence is, your location and network, or the calling users location and network?

Hey Julz, off to Japan huh? Fascinating place, make sure you check out Akihabara if you are in Tokyo...
I was in Korea a month or so ago and could get my P3600 to connect to their 3G network (using the 1.38 radio), couldn't make any calls but that turned out to be a Vodafone problem. Seems that VFNZ don't have a roaming agreement for their 3G network...
So I'm guessing you should be ok with the 1.38 radio.
Only other place I've roamed with the P3600 so far has been Fiji, worked perfectly there with the 1.38 radio.

Thanks Ant
Yes, this will be visit number 4 and yes I love Akihabara!! Will see if I can pick up a dirt cheap 8GB MicroSDHC down the alleyways.
NZVF confirms their 3G agreements with a couple of Japanese carriers, so it sounds like I should be ok.
Just thought it was an interesting question to chuck into the mix regarding favourite Radio ROM's to see if people change their radio when travelling

Is it possible to switich protocol from xx.xx.xx.xxU to xx.xx.xx.xxH? (Solved)

Since before having the diamond i was looking forward to using HSUPA for data, although since having the diamond i've only been able to use it in spain so far, and since i live in the uk, not so great for me, i can get edge/gprs/3g fine, although after being abroad and noticing how fast hsupa is i'm kinda annoyed my phone doesn't do it here?
first off, i've tried various roms/radio's on my diamond and another xda ignito branded diamond, cannot get it to work.
now another friend of mine has the xda ignito branded diamond, and her protocol version is xx.xx.xx.xxH my diamond and the other ignito i have access too have the protocol version xx.xx.xx.xxU the ones with U cannot get a HSUPA connection in the uk it seems, but the H version seems to get H virtually everyware, generally if our phones pick up edge she can pick up h connection.
the thing that confuses me, is that all 3 phones have had the same radio installed, i've now rolled mine back to various different ones and always get the U protocol, i don't want to reinstall a radio on the one that works incase it messes it up, the protocol version changes but never the letter on the end?
i'm not 100% sure but its the only thing i can think of, since until a few weeks ago the H protocol phone and mine were both running the same rom/radio.
anyone got any ideas? its really bugging me now!
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have since found out the H/U and i belive W are nothing to do with the radio whatsoever, depends on what you have selected in advanced network settings, HSDPA only gives the protocol H, HSDPA/HSUPA gives the protocol U, and you get W if you disable them.
however, its not help me get a HSDPA connection which my friend still gets on the same network with the same phone!
possible that sim cards affect it? hers is new in november, i've had my sim for at least 4 years, its the only thing i can think of! hence my other friend she's had her sim for around 4 years too, soon as i can try a newer sim i'll give it ago see if it affects it

also all 3 phones are on the o2 network, i sold my diamond upgrade and had my sisters 'orange' phone as i wanted to buy the offical extended battery
thats the most annoying thing, we are all using o2 yet only one of us can get hspda

have u try to install advance network where u can actived hsdpa

janielsen said:
have u try to install advance network where u can actived hsdpa
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yup, tried both 'Enable HSDPA/HSUPA' & HSDPA only options

I personally notice that the ROM affects the radio protocol. Even if it's H before, once I flash into some other ROM and hard reset, the protocol changes to U. I'm not very sure, I cannot confirm, but that's what I felt.

mengsuan said:
I personally notice that the ROM affects the radio protocol. Even if it's H before, once I flash into some other ROM and hard reset, the protocol changes to U. I'm not very sure, I cannot confirm, but that's what I felt.
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edited my first post to say why the change, can't belive its so simple!
but yes when changing rom and radio it did change, but then it changed back without doing it, thats what made me look into it

Rom radio confusion :(

Hello,
I really don't understand this radio stuff and googling didn't help much.. I didn't know whether this was the best forum for the question but it seemed like the most appropriate...
I had some questions (a couple academic and one practical):
1) What exactly is the radio (is it like a FM radio receiver and sender, but for the phone)?
2) Does changing the radio essentially change the frequency it tries to talk to the cell towers?
3) I'm on t-mobile uk what radio should I be using - http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Rhodium/Shipped_Roms doesn't list t-mobile uk.
4) Is there essentially a best radio for each country/network combination?
Thanks a lot in advance,
Chris

The different radios are simply updates to the drivers that operate the cell, gps, wifi, bluetooth, etc.
The frequencies stay the same.
The latest radio ending in .91(my sig) or the latest Tmo radio .88 should suit your needs.
I am on Tmo in the US so I know what works good for me, may be different for UK
Usually the chef of your favorite ROM will have a recommended radio in description.
You could always try one for a couple days and see which one gives best reception and battery life between .88 an .91
Hope that helps

Thanks I'm giving 88 a go. Get more reception bars but internet seems super slow. It feels strange that there are different drivers for different networks.